April 2, 2018

"I am kicking the hornet’s nest, as much as I can. I think it’s important to lean into the controversy..."

"... because I know so much more about it now. I think now enough time has passed where people are starting to see the ridiculousness of what happened to me, and they’re seeing other people that Trump has done it to."

Said Kathy Griffin, quoted in "Kathy Griffin Is Returning to TV, and Still Taking On Trump" (NYT), she'll be playing the part of Kellyanne Conway on an episode of "The President Show" tomorrow.

98 comments:

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

So her tearful apology was bullshit.

JaimeRoberto said...

"...people are starting to see the ridiculousness of what happened to me..."

Oh poor Kathy, she's such a victim.

bolivar di griz said...

Like medusa playing athena,

Luke Lea said...

She's trying to make lemonade.

Bay Area Guy said...

Instead of "kicking the hornet's net", these idiotic Hollywood Mensa scholars should consider:

1. Identifying a particular Trump policy on the merits
2. Making a coherent argument for or against it.
3. Listening to a coherent opposing view in response.

Like math, logic ain't that hard.

Leland said...

Trump made her act like ISIS?

It could be worse for her, a guy made taught his Pug to mock the Nazi salute, and the UK is sending him to jail for mocking Nazis. I'd hate to know what the UK would do for mocking ISIS; oh wait, I know, they banned a young lady from the UK for life.

William Chadwick said...

She's kicking the hornet's nest! She's going to take on the State! She'll be mocking the IRS and the ATF and the . . . Oh, wait a minute. Never mind.

tim in vermont said...

Are they going to have the rodeo clown on next?

Daniel Jackson said...

Done what to whom?

Breezy said...

Kathy Griffin, what do you mean, what happened to you? You mocked up beheading the president of the USA, FPS! What could you have been thinking? Wise up and makes amends not excuses.

n.n said...

Is this the girl who would abort the President through decapitation with a scalpel?

He's not viable!

Female chauvinist pig privilege. She has a male counterpart, something something quite contrary.

Angle-Dyne, Angelic Buzzard said...

I think now enough time has passed where people are starting to see the ridiculousness of what happened to me...

What happened to her?

Gk1 said...

I wasn't aware Six Flags has opened this early. Will she be doing her bit before or after the jumping dolphins?

YoungHegelian said...

At the risk of being repetitive, let me just say once again that President Trump is a man blessed by God in the choice of his enemies.

I think it's Insty who says "All the Democrats have to do to win is look sane, & they can't even do that".

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

I think now enough time has passed where people are starting to see the ridiculousness of what happened to me...

Translation: It's been the minimum amount of time my agent said I should lie low if I want to have a shot at getting my career back.

Drago said...

Thank goodness a left wing entertainer finally has the courage to take on Trump.

Known Unknown said...

Whatevs.

'TreHammer said...

Why do I get this error (see below) when trying to access althouse.blogspot.com via FireFox?

Your connection is not secure

The owner of www.althouse.blogspot.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.

This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.

rcocean said...

If the Left likes you - it doesn't matter what you do or say. Just wait a while for the boobs/rubes to forget and then go back to fame/fortune.

As for KG, she's past her sell date.

You can only be "outrageous" for so long, especially since everyone else is being "outrageous" about the same thing - all the time.

She's the Stormy Daniels of Comedy.

rcocean said...

Of course, I thought "The View" would be off the air 10 years ago. How long could peeps take those vulgar stupid Broads - I thought - wrongly.

Drago said...

First they came for the comediennes who carried lopped off mannequin heads with blood on them that resembled the President, but I said nothing, for I am not a lopped off mannequin head with blood on me that resembles the President.....

Henry said...

People are seeing that Trump drives people crazy?

Guildofcannonballs said...

A hornet's nest, like honesty near, is bad.

It ought be kicked, the nest of hornets. Because: kicking is good.

So when Kathy gets her kicks in or out or whatever, kicking is all that matters, because kicking is good, and kicking happened, so therefore it then is good.

"I'm a kicker just for kicks man, I been kickin' it since 1966 man."

Something tells me this new world is the one I wanted, not God's creation. That allows me to act kick-in-the-head real. Part of me, apart from God I fear, really likes this new idea. So new, and so, well, just NEW NEW NEW, it draws me nearer...

Guildofcannonballs said...

Maybe we all ought just kill all hornets, today, and be done with it?

Let's get David Hogg some bad stats hornet-wise and turn 'im loose.

Fucking no more hornet's up in this bitch for 30 more years.

Rick said...

She still doesn't understand she was dropped because she made the left look bad, Trump didn't do anything. Some people can't even understand what game they're playing.

Tank said...

I would pay to see her kick a hornets nest.

PB said...

Twit.

madAsHell said...

I see that she finally has gigs in the States again.

chickelit said...

Live by the ratings, die by the ratings. I hope her rebirth is short-lived or stillborn.

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openidname said...
So how is this different from Michelle Carter? Like, only a week ago? Remember?

"Free Michelle Carter.

"This is a ridiculous prosecution."

6/13/17, 8:45 PM

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Some people can't even understand what game they're playing."

Reading Althouse has tough taught some that there are always many games played.

Life too.

Ann Althouse said...

What happened to her?

For her bad taste photo humor, she was investigated by the Secret Service, interrogated, and she lost her gig with CNN and other professional engagements.

She apologized but she took it back when she got outraged by how severely she was getting treated.

Ann Althouse said...

Trehammer, there is a setting I have at no. Any advice on whether this should be at yes?

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If HTTPS Redirect is turned on:
Visitors to your blog will always go to https://althouse.blogspot.com.

If HTTPS Redirect is turned off:
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walter said...

She's kicking her own head?

Ralph L said...

Imagine if she'd done that with a fake Obama head.

Of course, it would have floated upward, spoiling the effect.

Michael K said...

"I would pay to see her kick a hornets nest."

Naked.

chickelit said...

It takes a special kind of stupid to get investigated by the Secret Service. Not many of the people who recently lost their entertainment gigs due to Twitter-rage were investigated by the S.S.

Diogenes of Sinope said...
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Diogenes of Sinope said...

she's boring

Henry said...

Althouse said...
For her bad taste photo humor, she was investigated by the Secret Service, interrogated...

Ralph L. said...
Imagine if she'd done that with a fake Obama head.

chickelit said..
It takes a special kind of stupid to get investigated by the Secret Service.

Following the links, from link to link:

The agency routinely investigates comments that might be deemed threatening to a president. In 2012, Ted Nugent had to meet with the Secret Service after saying at a meeting of the National Rifle Association, “We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November,” referring to the Obama administration.

The thing that's wince-worthy about the framing here is that the worst treatment Ms. Griffith received was from the people in her own industry. Most people Trump criticizes on Twitter get feted. She got blackballed. You're supposed to hiss through clenched teeth.

So good for Mr. Atamanuik (and BIll Maher) for going their own way.

walter said...

Blogger Michael K said..."I would pay to see her kick a hornets nest."
Naked.
--
Puhleeze....nooooooo

Big Mike said...

Controversy in lieu of talent -- seems pointless to quit since it's been working for her so far.

cubanbob said...

She should pray that Trump The Merciful Doesn't Break Her Again.

Henry said...

Is Kellyanne Conway still that topical anymore?

richard mcenroe said...

She could play shortstop for the Yankees, I hadn't watched her for years and still have no reason to start...

Phil 3:14 said...

Still not funny.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Michael K said... [hush]​[hide comment]
"I would pay to see her kick a hornets nest."

Naked.


Having seen the leaked photos of her doing the ice bucket challenge topless...

HELLO NO!

Michael K said...

Well. I would avert my eyes. The screams would be enough.

Ray said...

Https redirect at yes.

Google etc is forcing everyone to go https

Tommy Duncan said...

Kathy G's lamentation: "...people are starting to see the ridiculousness of what happened to me..."

Mongol General: "Conan! What is best in life?"

Conan: "To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."

Trump: "So much winning."

bolivar di griz said...

Enough with the horror already:


https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/mueller-found-a-very-dishonest-way-to-shroud-his-investigation-in-secrecy/

Across the pond:https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/940533/Jeremy-Corbyn-attend-meeting-Jewdas-anti-Semitism-row-Labour-Party-reaction

traditionalguy said...

Go Griffith. Hold up more severed bloody heads of Melania, DonJr., Eric, Ivanka, and Barron. You are the one who can do it. Art is art. Artists accept no boundaries.

William said...

If she wants to ride the First Amendment back into town, she should ride the First Amendment. She should come to Laura Ingraham's defense and say how unfair that boycott stuff is........Never happen. The penumbra to the Constitution has carved out several clear exemptions to free speech. Our boys charged the beaches on D-Day so young Hogg could be spared censorious speech. What Laura Ingraham did was so much worse than Kathy's friendly kidding and Laura should be banned in perpetuity.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Knew it wouldn't be long until the progs with their civility and moral high ground would welcome back this vulgar moron. Next up, Al Franken's All-Star Antifa Anti-Trump comedy special with special guests Louis CK, Garrison Keillor and Aziz Ansari.

David Begley said...

CNN should take her back. Give her a show. How much worse could she be than what CNN shows now. Resist!

Char Char Binks said...

I disagree with Al Franken on just about everything (probably, I haven't actually checked), but I'll give him props for supporting our troops and entertaining them overseas, in places dangerous enough that he had to wear a helmet and flak jacket. That turned out to be his undoing. At least he took one for the team.

As for Keillor and Aziz, like Franken, they're the left's own collateral damage, punished for heterosexuality. Now that Bill Clinton is gone, that's unacceptable to them.

the 4chan guy who reads Althouse said...

I was checking out 4chan like I normally do, seeing what crazy shit people are up to, then I came to Althouse, because after awhile the crazy shit doesn't seem so crazy anymore, which means you gotta stop for awhile. I got a drunk friend who says that about alcohol, but he never really stops, so I guess that means it's rhetorical. If I'm using that word right.

Anyway, I see this post about Kathy Griffin, and I find it ironic, although I'm probably not using that word right, either. I mean, on 4chan a picture of Trump beheaded wouldn't be a big deal; it'd be kinda amateur, as far as 4chan things go. Like, if you're not even going to go with a simple pedophilia gag, then you might as well shut down Photoshop for the night.

But on 4chan, most of the stuff is outrageous to be funny, even if it's sick and wrong. But I don't think Griffin was trying to be funny, she was just getting off on the hate. Which just makes her look sad.

People on 4chan play with the hate matches sometimes, but that's because they work at McDonalds and their girlfriend said she didn't have herpes but she really did have herpes, and life just kinda sucks. But when Griffin tries to be all 4chan she just looks pathetic, because she's not, like, working at McDonalds, you know? I don't know, maybe she does have herpes, but she still looks pathetic.

And I bet if Kathy were to go on 4chan and see all of the Photoshop pictures of her sucking Trump's cock or getting ass-fucked by Anderson Cooper she'd probably feel bad. Because it sucks to be made fun of, which is why a lot of people hide out on 4chan in the first place. But haters always think it's someone else doing the hating, and the bigger you are, the smaller the hate makes you look.

Now, if she was pretty she might get away with it a little bit, but that's just how the world works. I mean, if Emily Ratajkowski said some Nazi shit most guys would still tit-fuck her, right? But I don't think anyone wants to tit-fuck Kathy Griffin, even if she kept her mouth shut. Which IS kinda sad, but she's still not having to work at McDonalds, cleaning toilets with everything smelling like loose shit and french fries.

Char Char Binks said...

CK too

Char Char Binks said...

I gotta start using 4chan.

eddie willers said...

Google etc is forcing everyone to go https

I use a Chromebook, so...Google.

However, I put my mouse over the the Althouse link in the bar and it said "unsecure" and just read althouse.blogspot.com. No automatic redirect kicked in, so I typed https://althouse.blogspot.com/ and that is now my new bookmart.

I don't know why a Google Chromebook would just allow me to stay on the insecure site.

Oh well. Just forget that SSN and credit card I posted last week.

virgil xenophon said...

Lets see now, betamax3000, Leo Spatula, jj, the germans have a word for that and now 4chan guy. Have I missed any other of your interations?

MathMom said...

So, not only is she unfunny, she has learning disabilities?

Lexington Green said...

This person merits zero attention.

Comanche Voter said...

She's going to go the Cindy Sheehan route; her career as a second rate comedienne will ultimately run its course--probably sooner rather than later. And having slipped on a banana peel while kicking what she would characterize as a bucket of night soil (I'm being euphemistic here) she was surprised to find it spattered on her. But I agree with MathMom that Ms. Griffin seems to have a learning disability--she certainly hasn't absorbed the lesson from her last fiasco. But attention whores will do what attention whores gotta do.

Kathryn51 said...

I realized recently that I spend more time on Twitter (and discovered that I "followed" Althouse long ago) than FB - perhaps because I was tired of all Trump hate.

I also discovered that Trump has 50 MM followers. As in Fifty Million. (I'm not one of them)

Kathy Griffin has a little over 2 Million.

I think Trump wins.

chickelit said...

Just remember, people: If you don’t laugh at Griffin’s humor, it’s because you’re bigoted.

Guildofcannonballs said...

What would those troops have done without those Franken photo ops Char Char?

Have you thought this through?

The troops would have died without Franken?

Milk this for all its and it's worth. Milk it.

Franken love sour troops, okay, loves 'em. Will guarantee he love's 'me better than Bill "Liar" O'Reilly who controls everything because of the Military Industrial Complex (aka MIC) ergo FUCK YOU ANTI-GAEILICITE!!!!

Guildofcannonballs said...

Virgil how long until you realize you've of course obviously missed more than you could in any existence possibly have seen?

How can this become clear?

jaydub said...

The only things surprising about the whole Kathy Griffin fiasco are that CNN canned her from their new year's eve broadcast and that CNN has yet to hire her as a news anchor.

William Chadwick said...

Ok, folks , we have another "resident" member of the Loony Left with us. Telltale signs? Semi-intelligible posts that don't seem to make any point.

chickelit said...

“her career as a second rate comedienne will ultimately run its course--probably”

She was voted among the top 50 funniest women back in 2008. No such accolades since. I keep wanting to see something in her — maybe a little Joan Rivers — but it’s just not there. She has humor but she consistently picks the wrong targets.

chickelit said...

@Virgil: I think guild used to go by the handle “NotQuiteUnBuckley” or some such. I used to parody UnBuckley, voicing him/her in a WFB voice with a Foster Brooke’s lilt.

Unknown said...

Boo boo hoo

Achilles said...

Ann Althouse said...

Trehammer, there is a setting I have at no. Any advice on whether this should be at yes?

HTTPS Redirect
No
If HTTPS Redirect is turned on:
Visitors to your blog will always go to https://althouse.blogspot.com.

If HTTPS Redirect is turned off:
Visitors to http://althouse.blogspot.com will be served over HTTP, an unencrypted connection.
Visitors to https://althouse.blogspot.com will be served over HTTPS, an encrypted connection. Learn more.


You aren't taking credit cards or personal information on the one hand.

But pretty much everyone runs https now. It doesn't really slow performance that much to encrypt. I think users would have to try to go to the un-encrypted version.

People may be able to get stuff out of the un-encrypted version. At minimum they can watch grab the information as it goes through the domain if it is un-encrypted. It isn't like the NSA doesn't have backdoors on everything blogger does anyway.

Achilles said...

Lexington Green said...

This person merits zero attention.

We have been ignoring leftist violence for decades. It is time they started paying the same price someone on the right would pay.

If they keep pushing without resistance they will just keep going.

Paul said...

Kathy who?

Ann Althouse said...

@'TreHammer

I changed that setting to yes.

Let me know if it worked for you.

Amadeus 48 said...

Whatever happened to Kathy Griffin? Is she still alive? I thought she had died.

I loved her brother Merv. He and Trump had a dust-up over Resorts International in 1988. Merv won. He paid $350 million for some casinos that went broke two years later. Easy come, easy go. It all turned out alright. Merv died a billionaire and Trump became POTUS.

Maybe Kathy will die a billionaire.

Unknown said...

Dang, apparently I missed something in the Kathy Griffin story. What, exactly, did Trump do to her?

-sw

Ann Althouse said...

"Dang, apparently I missed something in the Kathy Griffin story. What, exactly, did Trump do to her?"

He broke her.

That's what she said.

Before she roused herself from apology mode and went on the offensive again. She's a comedian. She can't be a victim. She's got to be offensive. It's an amazing thing when you're so offensive the authorities take you in for interrogation. But you know they arrested Lenny Bruce.

I'm glad to see her out and about again. I'd go see her new show if it came to my town.

tim in vermont said...

Toadies to power don't interest me, and if there were ever a toady to power, it's Kathy Griffen.

"I was just doing what you guys wanted!"

chickelit said...

No doubt there are some here who’d pay to see a comedian raise the faux bloodied head of Althouse on screen by the hair. Especially if one of her sons were watching.

exhelodrvr1 said...

I wonder what she thinks about the Ingraham boycott. Sorry, I meant personcott.

mikee said...

Hey, Kathy, imagine your photoshoot was done in 2009 with a model of, say, Obama's head, just for giggles. Where would you be, now?

LordSomber said...

The continual recurrence of the foul Emmanuel Goldstein continues to confound progressive good thinkers.

Deb said...

I get her confused with Joy Behar. I used to think they were both pretty funny but they have become too vulgar and hateful.

Unknown said...

You'll need to find a better analogy, the acts of Bruce and Griffin are in no way similar. Bruce's use of profane language in his comedy act provoked law enforcement and exposed the law's violation of the first amendment. I suppose it is good that Griffin has rediscovered the courage of her convictions, if that is what she's doing, but that doesn't make her whole severed head thing any more than just a personal attack on Trump.

-sw

Caligula said...

"A fake memo used by Dan Rather to influence an election in favor of the democrat candidate, is not journalism. It's fraud."

And yet one still marvels at the amateurish nature of the attempt. Perhaps Rather and Mapes couldn't help that their document had very questionable provenance, or that it was obviously run through a photocopier a few times to fuzz it up (this making it unverifiable), but, why did no one bother to find a real typewriter on which to type it?

Perhaps in a century it will be a challenge to find a real, antiqute typewriter, but the things were produced in such large quantities for so many years that it's hardly a challenge to find one today (and it was still easier then).

Then again, how Orwellian is it that Mary Mapes' book, "Truth: The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power" is still in print? There must be some who still believe the memo was authentic, and how much will-to-believe does that require?

Just a few comments from Amazon reviewers:

"Excellent book. After reading this book and knowing what happened to Mary Mapes' career just for telling the truth, it's not hard to understand why our journalists are reluctant to go up against people who have such limitless power. The story needs to be told. It makes our country stronger. Thank you, Mary! Well done!"

" Had she been a man, she would still be at CBS."

Maybe it's just time to go full-Pomo, and declare that since there is no truth anyway (all truths are equal but some are more equal), all discourse is merely assertion of power.

In any case, there's certainly a stark contrast between the raw simplicity of Orwell's text and the fantastic obscurantism produced by today's academicians.

'TreHammer said...

Thanks. Firefox works ok now

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"She was voted among the top 50 funniest women back in 2008. "

That's like coming in 50th in the special olympics. They had a list the went all the way to 50?

Gahrie said...

Sorry, I meant personcott.

Speciesist.

mikeski said...

Lets see now, betamax3000, Leo Spatula, jj, the germans have a word for that and now 4chan guy. Have I missed any other of your interations?

Wasn't he the short-lived "six words or less" guy, too? (And it was "Laslo" Spatula, not Leo.)

Jim at said...

Kathy Griffin is the devil.

Daniel Jackson said...

"Kathy Griffin is the devil."

Kathy Griffin is a jerk.

Excuse me.

A fucking jerk.

WHY must we endure?

Jim at said...

It's a reference to a Seinfeld episode.

Michael McNeil said...
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Michael McNeil said...

… why did no one bother to find a real typewriter on which to type it? Perhaps in a century it will be a challenge to find a real, antiqute typewriter, but the things were produced in such large quantities for so many years that it's hardly a challenge to find one today (and it was still easier then).

Ha! Your comment motivated me to search on Ebay, and it turns out that, even today, one can acquire the very kind of “typewriter” (well, it’s a so-called “composer”) that could then (contrary to modern myth) have duplicated almost exactly* the infamous Dan Rather memo. This machine was the IBM Selectric Composer (introduced in 1966) — along with its programmable typesetting cousin, the IBM Magnetic Tape/Selectric Composer (MT/SC). An instance of the former of these devices is currently available on Ebay for $485.

(*Almost exactly — providing one has equipped the device with a then-available “Times Roman” [ball] font rather than the modern (extremely similar) “Times New Roman” font, which hadn’t yet been designed.)