January 18, 2018

And when you're a star they let you do it — you can do anything — and they can tell an eagerly listening world exactly what you were like.

People want access to the star, as Donald Trump famously observed: He's automatically attracted to beautiful women — like a magnet.... And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. They let you do it. You can do anything... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

That's the up side of being a star: You're attracted to somebody beautiful and she lets you have her body.

But the downside is that, because you're a star, if she ever has an inclination to tell the story of what sex was like with you, everybody wants to hear it. The media will publish all the details, down to the awkwardness of your "claw" move:
She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”
Little, private things that weren't even the slightest bit abusive will be splashed on the front page of The Daily Mail. She says that you said she was "beautiful and smart just like his daughter," and the world will react with horror as if you'd called her by your daughter's name while you were having sex. She says that you had intercourse in the "textbook generic... one position" that people "would expect someone [your] age to do," and people will laugh derisively, just as they would have laughed if you done something less usual, such as having her urinate in the bed.

You're a star, and you can do anything... and anything can be done to you.

104 comments:

Fabi said...

Some women like the "shocker" more than the "claw". The super freaks I date like the "Vulcan".

traditionalguy said...

The Art of the Deals done with Stormy. And he got her for free without using drugs and alcohol to pave the way.

Carol said...

It seems Trump is not all that bad a date, as these things go.

Ansari would make me puke. With the fingers...ugh.

Fabi said...

The idea of Trump -- a notorious germaphobe -- screwing a porn star without protection strikes me as untrue.

Wince said...

The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.

"Toilet paper claw, pickle claw."

Fernandinande said...

The Daily Mail loves them some exorcism.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Fabi said...

The idea of Trump -- a notorious germaphobe -- screwing a porn star without protection strikes me as untrue.

Possibly.

On the other hand, the penis wants what the penis wants.

rhhardin said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgAG3Vnif8

The Claw

sean said...

It's funny, because I remember a piece by Cynthia Heimel where she thought it was really sexy and stimulating when a guy put his fingers in her mouth. I'm guessing that Ansari had a past sexual partner who felt the same way. Different strokes for different folks. The one thing all women have in common is moralistic outrage at men who fail to read their minds.

Fabi said...

I accept that argument, Ignorance is Bliss!

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Althouse has a difficult assignment here to frame Trump as a victim, given that he is cheating on his wife with a porn star a few months after the birth of his son, but a solid effort nonetheless. I give it a B.

chickelit said...

Kudos to Trump-- it seems he didn't need a moistened finger in the air to tell which way the storm was blowing.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

If this is true, Trump is gross. How do we know it's true? I'm not at all confident it is true. Now the Russia story - that's all true! Because, wish fact and Hillary loss retribution.

I mean - the left are on a war path to create and dig for any dirt they can use. The left are mining for victims and using big money to do it.

Martha said...

ARM, you have to believe the porn star’s “friends” to state with conviction that Trump did anything ontoward with the porn star.
The lady denies it.

Unknown said...

rock, scissors, claw.

Bay Area Guy said...

Ansari goes for "The Claw" on the first date with 22-year old woman. Hilarity does not ensue!

Had he just been nice a bit less aggressive, probably dates 2,3,4 ad infinitum woulda gotten him the results he sought.

Just sayin'

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The left totally 100% believe the dossier is true and that Trump peed or had prostitutes pee in a bed that once upon a time was spelt in by O and his wife.

It's TRUE!

Curious George said...

"AReasonableMan said...
Althouse has a difficult assignment here to frame Trump as a victim, given that he is cheating on his wife with a porn star a few months after the birth of his son, but a solid effort nonetheless. I give it a B."

Barron's 11.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Wish-facts Trump reality in hivemind. Any "truth" will do.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Martha said...
The lady denies it.


No, she doesn't. Interview with In Touch magazine was conducted well before Trump ran for president.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Thanks to Oprah, we should feel inspired to respect the DNC hack press, who lie, and we should create our own truth.

because, feelz.

Unknown said...

I thought 50 shades of grey was popular with women

chickelit said...

Was Trump a sitting President when the storm blew in? Enquirer minds want to know!

rhhardin said...

Althouse has a difficult assignment here to frame Trump as a victim, given that he is cheating on his wife with a porn star a few months after the birth of his son, but a solid effort nonetheless. I give it a B.

I'd say Althouse is still not happy with the pussy comment and is getting back at Trump for it, not defending it.

Women are crazy that way.

Guys think the pussy comment is fine.

pacwest said...

Is Hillary in jail yet?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

ARM is so excited.

sparrow said...

ARM,

I don't think Althouse was defending him , rather she was pointing out that celebrity is a two edged sword. Or put another way, what goes around comes around. It's hardly instant, but it does have a karmic outcome.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Forget the Clinton Crime Machine, Forget Seth Rich. Forget private Server. Forget Uranium One. Forget the millions that poured into Clinton Foundation coffers while Hillary was head of the State Dept. Forget Bill's rape accusers - they are all lying. Trump had sex outside of marriage in 2006.

No one ever has sex outside of marriage - except for FBI agents who hate Trump *STROZK*

Big Mike said...

I assume that wetting his fingers with her saliva instead of his lessens the risk of vaginal infection when he digitally stimulates her clitoris. Seems like a thoughtful fellow to me.

[snort]

chickelit said...

@Dickin': He's not just excited, he's giving us the the "stiff ARM."
I said last night that ARM was personally reviewing Stormy Daniels' entire oeuvre.

Ray - SoCal said...

Fabi - I had the same thought with Trump being a germaphobe. Porn industry seems to be full of vd. And the economics of the porn industry have collapsed along with pay, so porn stars need to find other income sources. Escorting may be one of them. Nude dancing is another. Webinars/ webcasting (I’m not sure on the industry term).

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...
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Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

From ARM's link -

"At one point, Stormy told In Touch, she excused herself to go to the bathroom. “When I came out, he was sitting on the bed and he was like, ‘Come here.’ And I was like, ‘Ugh, here we go.’ And we started kissing.” ...

"Ugh here we go?" If she wasn't interested in Trump, she could have said so and excused herself.. If I'm thinking "Ugh here we go" I'd push the guy away and say - no thank you, and not proceed to sex.

Darcy said...

I agree with Fabi. I don't buy this story about Trump. It is not that I am blind. I think he would and has cheated (though maybe not on Melania), but I don't see him dallying with a porn star. He is a known germaphobe. It doesn't add up. I believe I am borderline germaphobe/OCD (whatever any of that means) and I'm guessing that if you have never had a touch of it you won't understand. Drunkenness can counteract this phobia, at least as far as I know personally, but Trump doesn't drink or do drugs.

Doesn't add up. I now look forward to all the smears from the NeverTrumpers over this disbelief. I say prove it.

Curious George said...

"AReasonableMan said...
Martha said...
The lady denies it.

No, she doesn't. Interview with In Touch magazine was conducted well before Trump ran for president."

Yes she does. And In Touch?:

Which Tabloids Lie the Most?
In Touch
9% Cover Accuracy, 21% Overall Accuracy

A significant drop in accuracy accompanies us to the third-place magazine on our list. In Touch correctly reported Avril Lavigne's split from Derrick Whimbley and was the first to report on Heidi Klum's most recent pregnancy. But with the magazine relying heavily on Brangelina rumors (almost all of which turned out to be untrue)—and with 19 incorrectly reported pregnancies (Nicole Kidman, Penelope Cruz, Eva Longoria) over the 20 months—In Touch's batting average took a hit.


Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Chickl - LOL. The Russia Russia Russia faux-story is winding down ,so on to the next big deal. Whatever it takes.

After the collective left excused Bill Clinton - the rest of us are yawning. Not only that - as Darcy and Fabi state, the story doesn't really add up.

Mr. Groovington said...

Sadly, the truth is we know it's impossible for a germaphobe to do the right thing. How do you go down on a girl without the asshole being involved, just one example. Get over it Donald.

Birches said...

We've always known who Trump is. Why would I be surprised he's an adulterer?

Limited blogger said...

The news cycle is not long enough to fit all of Trump's stuff in. Obama was much more compact, because we didn't ever talk about anything he did or said.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Birches said...
We've always known who Trump is. Why would I be surprised he's an adulterer?


No one is. What is interesting, as Chuck points out repeatedly, are the lies. An NDA with a porn star is always going to attract attention.

William said...

Noblesse oblige. Celebrities are expected to overtip in restaurants. In like way, when celebrities have sex with their fans, they are expected to show a little consideration and act in a way that is consistent with their stage persona.......I finally read that babe. J'ai accuse, article on Aziz Ansari. Aziz wasn't Jeffrey Dahmer awful, but neither was he Aziz Ansari. The woman went to his apartment because he was Aziz Ansari, and he turned out to be a horndog. She felt betrayed and, perhaps, rightfully so. How hard is it to be Aziz Ansari. We're not talking about Cary Grant or John Wayne. Those guys had a public persona that was almost impossible to match in private life. But all Aziz had to do was make a few self deprecating jokes and he was over. My sympathies are with the woman, although I don't know if Aziz deserves having his crassness shared with the world.......I'd just like to take this opportunity to commend Jennifer Aniston. That one night we spent together she was just as good natured and fun as you would believe from her many movie roles. She made the effort.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

My times with Sigourney Weaver, Salma Hayek and Helen Hunt also lived up to expectations.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Clinton Corruption Update: It’s All One Scandal


But Trump had icky sex in 2006 with a porn star who didn't even want to have sex with him.

Unknown said...

William
I can relate, I cherish my weekend in that Best Western on the outskirts of Las Vegas with Catherine Deneuve. It was fabulous, more than I ever could have imagined a high school senior week could be. But, it was with mixed emotions when she called to inform me she had aborted my child. I then felt a little used, but sex is a two way blacktop.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

AReasonableMan said...
Althouse has a difficult assignment here to frame Trump as a victim, given that he is cheating on his wife with a porn star a few months after the birth of his son, but a solid effort nonetheless."

Well, we were told that Clinton's dalliance with Flowers was a private matter and concerned Hill, Bill and nobody else, so I guess the same is true for Trump, right?

Right?

n.n said...

It seems that social liberalism has reached a threshold. That said, denigrating individual dignity and debasing human life (e.g. "Choice") has clear and progressive consequences.

n.n said...

Trans-social couples need to get a room at Planned Parenthood, where privacy is respected, and any "punishment" is mitigated on site.

n.n said...

Sex is a private matter. Involuntary exploitation is a public concern. Superior exploitation may be a public concern.

Unknown said...

Trump is a stud, he's knocked the bottom out of some really beautiful women without raping any of them. Sort of like he's knocked the bottom out of the press, regardless of whether they falsely cry rape.

Clinton can't say that, nor can Obama. They just set back and let the press blow them.

Unknown said...

Sorry
my sister has log on to my lap top. The K McConnell post are actually Mac McConnell, me.

Henry said...

Which two fingers do you use to make a V shape? Was he using both hands?

CStanley said...

It's funny, because I remember a piece by Cynthia Heimel where she thought it was really sexy and stimulating when a guy put his fingers in her mouth. I'm guessing that Ansari had a past sexual partner who felt the same way. Different strokes for different folks. The one thing all women have in common is moralistic outrage at men who fail to read their minds.

That is weird. Almost as though it would be better for people to get to know one another intimately instead of hooking up with strangers.

Henry said...

If he touched his fingers to her tongue that's one thing. If he put his fingers down her throat -- she uses the word throat -- that's ... unusual. If he put his fingers down her throat more than once, we're back to the same question as ever: what the hell, lady?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Exiled...

Well, we were told that Clinton's dalliance with Flowers was a private matter and concerned Hill, Bill and nobody else, so I guess the same is true for Trump, right?

Right?


Still waiting for ARM's answer.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

A gentleman would never tell, but a woman isn't a gentleman.

tcrosse said...

So much for keeping Politics out of the Bedroom.

Ann Althouse said...

"I'm guessing that Ansari had a past sexual partner who felt the same way. Different strokes for different folks. The one thing all women have in common is moralistic outrage at men who fail to read their minds."

I think if the woman is being inauthentic and accepting things as if she should like them, she's depriving him of feedback, and he may think something is a good idea and keep doing it, while she's lost in hiding that she thinks it's awful. He's hurting her, but she is also hurting him.

I'm afraid people get the self-image that they are supposed to be enthusiastic about sex, just love sex, like actors in movies look like they love sex, and they don't even know what they really feel until afterward, when they are also affected by the way the other person isn't interested in them in any deeper way.

Then the rejection of the various techniques can be overwhelming, and it merges with a desire for revenge. And now, at last, you really do feel something.

Ann Althouse said...

"Althouse has a difficult assignment here to frame Trump as a victim, given that he is cheating on his wife with a porn star a few months after the birth of his son, but a solid effort nonetheless...."

1. I don't even know if the story is true.

2. If the story is true, I still don't know if he is "cheating" on his wife. I don't know the intimate facts of their relationship. People have all kinds of arrangements, and a beautiful woman married to a rich, older man may want him to be with someone else and to have corresponding freedoms for herself. Perhaps she is a lesbian or an asexual and enjoys a role that you are not creative or free enough to begin to think about.

3. Stormy Daniels is a real person, and if she's made a living doing films with sexual content, that may well have been the free choice of an intelligent, empowered woman. Who are you to impugn her? You don't know her.

4. You're just voyeuristically imagining looking in on Daniels and Trump and Melania for the purpose of feeling more hate toward Trump you already hate. That puts you in a low place.

Ann Althouse said...

"Which two fingers do you use to make a V shape? Was he using both hands?"

I'm picturing a peace sign.

It's possible that the hand in that position in the mouth is erotic. I'm picturing a sort of massaging of the sides of the tongue. If you're thinking this is stupid and gross, it's not going to work, but you could say that about everything sexual. Describe the motions in words, and it all sounds like an embarrassingly bad idea.

Jason said...

First Law of Porn: Whores lie.

'Twas ever thus.

wwww said...

"People have all kinds of arrangements, and a beautiful woman married to a rich, older man may want him to be with someone else and to have corresponding freedoms for herself."

Sure, it's possible there is an arrangement.

Nonetheless, it's adultery.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Ann Althouse said...
3. Stormy Daniels is a real person, and if she's made a living doing films with sexual content, that may well have been the free choice of an intelligent, empowered woman. Who are you to impugn her? You don't know her.


Where do I impugn her? I have nothing against porn stars. It looks like a tough business that rarely ends well for the participants. The NDA and the interview are public facts.

4. You're just voyeuristically imagining looking in on Daniels and Trump and Melania for the purpose of feeling more hate toward Trump you already hate. That puts you in a low place.

This is bears no relationship to reality. I don't hate Trump, I find him to be a reliable and steady source of humor. I also think he is completely unsuited for the presidency of a major country. You can think someone is an ass without hating them.

Birches said...


It's possible that the hand in that position in the mouth is erotic. I'm picturing a sort of massaging of the sides of the tongue. If you're thinking this is stupid and gross, it's not going to work, but you could say that about everything sexual.


Truer words have never been written.

Birches said...

If you're in the mood, anything can be arousing. If not? Yuck.

Darcy said...

@AReasonableMan
Where can I find the facts of the NDA? Thanks.

wwww said...
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chuck said...

> if she ever has an inclination to tell the story of what sex was like with you,

And many do. Women's locker room talk is nothing if not explicit, and some like to keep notes. I recall one student who slept her way through the biology department and kept a card file on the performance and characteristics of her partners. So guys, the women know all and that is why you need to get married; a spy among the hens is a necessity.

Darcy said...

Okay. I researched. An editor of Slate claims to have seen a "draft" of the NDA, but never the executed document, as "Stormy" has not responded since and now claims none of this is true. "Stormy" also apparently gave an interview to InTouch in 2011.

Those are the facts. By the way, I can manufacture a "draft" NDA easily, but whatever.

I'd like to see the executed NDA. If it exists, point me to it. Or a record of payment to "Stormy" which links her to Trump. Otherwise this is hearsay. Not fact.

Gahrie said...

I also think he is completely unsuited for the presidency of a major country

And nothing, including the results of the last year, is going to change your mind.

Gahrie said...

It's possible that the hand in that position in the mouth is erotic.

Yes...it is erotic but for the men...it is a simulation of oral sex.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The NDA agreement will not be publically available, since this would defeat it's point. There doesn't seem to be much doubt that it exists. The In Touch article reports direct quotes from Stormy. If these quotes are inaccurate Stormy or Trump could challenge this.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

This is the game theory analysis of the existence of the NDA, from HotAir:

5. The In Touch story all but proves that Clifford is currently under an NDA despite her denial last week, no? If she isn’t then she has no reason not to capitalize on the buzz over the story and sit down to share juicy details with other media, either for money or to raise her public profile so that she can cash in in other ways. She was willing to talk to the press about the affair before, on the record, knowing that Trump is married and had children with another on the way. If she was willing then, logically she’d be even more willing now with a much brighter spotlight waiting for her. And yet, last week, she rushed out a statement to the media insisting that she and Trump never had a relationship. Why say that now when she’d spoken to In Touch years earlier and to reporters like Jacob Weisberg of Slate as recently as 2016? Is there any explanation except “NDA”?

Darcy said...

There is definitely doubt since the "Stormy" has just denied it. This is called an unreliable witness. Do you believe the stories from InTouch often?

Trump should not dignify this with any sort of answer at all.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Gahrie said...
And nothing, including the results of the last year, is going to change your mind.


If you think the chaos, sleaze, indecisiveness, lying and general BS of the last year is the way to run any organization much less a major country you are welcome to it. But it is funny, no one can deny that. Trump's presidency is a testament to the resiliency of the country and its institutions.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Darcy said...
Do you believe the stories from InTouch often?


She has given the same story to multiple sources including friends. Trump's lawyers paid her for her subsequent silence. This is not a one source story.

Beaver7216 said...

ARM,
My views have not changed. The Democrats who gave safe harbor to Bill C were half right: sex is a private matter of no concern to some of us. But they were terribly wrong on the other half. All of Bill's "women" were employees or subordinates of some kind with an economic interest. They did not choose freely. At the very least subtle pressure. And even if they did not consider themselves victims other co-workers who lost out on promotions and status upgrades were victims. They lost out to corruption, not by merit. The French of all people had it right when they considered consensual adult sex between a workplace superior and subordinate to be felony rape. Sex with your maid is out.
If Democrats had acted honorably in the Clinton years the Lauer, Weinstein, et al issues might have been minimized.
But Stormy Daniels or affairs with non employees or people submitting to celebrities for the thrill are not relevant to me.

Darcy said...

AReasonableMan has been watching MSNBC. The rest of us see deregulation, tax cuts, repatriation of 10s of billions of dollars to the U.S., bonuses, increased wages, illegal immigration actually being debated with a possible end to chain migration, excellent judges appointed...I'm getting tired of typing the list!

All amid "chaos" caused by a hostile media and an apparently biased special counsel investigation. Quite an accomplishment. One might use the term genius.

Gahrie said...

But it is funny, no one can deny that. Trump's presidency is a testament to the resiliency of the country and its institutions.

What's funny is that you don't realize that the Obama presidency was a testament to the resiliency of the country and its institutions.

The country has begun to thrive again under Trump.

Gahrie said...

If you think the chaos, sleaze, indecisiveness, lying and general BS of the last year is the way to run any organization much less a major country you are welcome to it.

I comfort myself with the knowledge that if Hillary had been elected, all of that would have been ten times worse.

Drago said...

ARM: "If you think the chaos, sleaze, indecisiveness, lying and general BS of the last year is the way to run any organization much less a major country you are welcome to it."

Why aren't you helping the dems to clean up their act?

William said...

My sex life, such as it is, is not so much moral or even normal but rather banal. I like the concept of cheating on a supermodel wife with a porn star. Such sins are aspirational rather than sordid......if I were a billionaire celebrity, sex with a pornstar would be on the bucket list. The experience would probably be a disappointment but you don't know til you've tried it.

Ann Althouse said...

Trump has been famous for committing adultery for decades. No one who likes him cares. A new story doesn’t change the idea of Trump that people have had for a long time

If Pence committed adultery, that woulf be a big story.

n.n said...
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n.n said...

If Pence committed adultery, that would be a big story.

It would be a shock and a big story.

If it is an act of involuntary or superior exploitation, then it transcends the private domain, and invites public scrutiny. Was there an abortion rite? If a persons sins, they should repent, and oppose its progress. Also, they should refrain from normalization of the trans-legal, trans-social, transhuman behavior. Otherwise, it's a private sin, between them and God, between them and their spouse, or between them and their conscience.

Fabi said...

Thumb and index finger.

Daniel Jackson said...

This is so junior high school--a kiss and tell story as in oh yuk he did THIS to me.

Either way, she got screwed and is now telling the world about it.

This is TRULY pathetic.

Bad Lieutenant said...

wwww said...

On Ansari.

I deplore how "Grace" called this a sexual assault. This hurts victims of criminal sexual assault.


wwww,

Are you a man or a woman? Please answer me.




Birches said...

[Ann Althouse said...]

It's possible that the hand in that position in the mouth is erotic. I'm picturing a sort of massaging of the sides of the tongue. If you're thinking this is stupid and gross, it's not going to work, but you could say that about everything sexual.

Truer words have never been written.



You are SO not getting this. "The Claw," I do not know if that is the actual AVN trade name, is a gonzo porn trope. In other words, unless you are being paid or otherwise motivated to tolerate it and make it look acceptable or erotic, it is tantamount to assault. Being at work, it is impossible to provide more detail.

No acceptable male human being would do this to an ordinary woman. No ordinary healthy woman wants this done to her. Maybe you could wash that, like, she swallowed poison and he is trying to save her life, but otherwise...

and in any case...ON A FIRST DATE!?!?!?!?!?!

NO!!!!!!!

This is not tickling her tongue. This is ramming. In this maneuver, he is dredging her esophagus to scour up mucus to use as lube. THIS is treating a woman like a piece of meat, not glancing admiringly at her figure too conspicuously.

I wouldn't do this to anyone I wasn't willing to kill.

Chuck said...

Ann Althouse said...
Trump has been famous for committing adultery for decades. No one who likes him cares. A new story doesn’t change the idea of Trump that people have had for a long time...


"I even brought my Bible — the evangelicals, OK?” Trump said as the rally opened. “We love the evangelicals and we’re polling so well. This Bible was given to me by my mother, going to Sunday school. … So, we love the Bible. It’s the best. We love ‘The Art of the Deal,’ but the Bible is far, far superior, yes.”
~Donald J. Trump

Drago said...

So strange to find LLR Chuck completely aligned with the far left talking points of the day.

So very, very strange.

In other news, unemployment numbers keep going down for all groups, and LLR Chuck weeps.

I can't wait to hear what Maddow has to say about all that tonight so I'll know what Chuck will be writing about tomorrow.

Drago said...

ABC News: "NEW: Mick Mulvaney, whose appointment to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau generated significant controversy last year, requests no new funding for the bureau, arguing money on hand is sufficient to cover the next quarter’s expenses."

Looks like Mulvaney is doing even better than we thought in terms of cutting off LLR Chuck's lefty allies gravy train.

Tough luck Chuck. Your little lefty leeches will need to find a new government body host!

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

So what, chuck? Of course, Trump likes evangelicals - they voted for him in large numbers. Very few people think Trump is religious himself.

Most Christians in this country want simply to be left alone. The Democrats will not leave them alone.

I think the attitude of the evangelicals is " God writes straight with crooked lines."

Drago said...

Evangelicals voted for Trump.

LLR Chuck and the lefties don't want them to vote for Trump, so LLR Chuck and his lefty allies employ a laughable shame strategy to try and disconnect Trump from his voter base.

But it's not working. And won't work. LLR Chuck and his lefty allies have no other plays in the playbook so they simply double-triple-quadruple down on what has not already worked.

It will be interesting to see what our "accidental leftist" and his lefty pals do in the coming months in terms of adapting.

So far its no longer hoax golden showers (that one fizzled much to Chuck's dismay) so they are recycling all the old stuff and adding in "obese" and eats fast food storyline.

Which shouldn't surprise anyone. Remember, the lefty MSM that Chuck worships turned Romney into a monster over a sick dog in a roof kennel and binder full of womens resumes.

Darcy said...

I believe I read that Trump is a new believer, or a new follower of Christ. I really dislike the term "evangelicals", mainly because of the use of it, not the actual definition.

Anyway, I think Trump is what I call a "baby" or fairly recent believer. That matters to me, and, I would guess, other believers.

Ann Althouse said...

“You are SO not getting this. "The Claw," I do not know if that is the actual AVN trade name, is a gonzo porn trope.”

1. Urban Dictionary has no definition of “claw” that relates to the mouth.

2. I believe the term was the woman’s own coinage as she described it.

3. What you’re describing is so painful that she would have actively resisted or vomited.

4. You’re anatomically off to say “esophagus.” Look at a diagram.

Birkel said...

Jesus: Render into Caesar...
Leftists: Nothing outside the state
Napoleon: L'etat c'est moi.
Leftists: Blow jobs are not sex.

Leftists: Trump might have banged a poem star.

Credibility cannot be bought cheap, once sold.

Francisco D said...

Bickel: "Leftists: Trump might have banged a poem star."

Trump banged Maya Angelou?

Wow! I guess he's not a racist.

/sarc

John Orzechowski said...

Donald Trump, that irascible fella,
Said while watching his favorite gorilla,
"N.D.A.'s altogether
Better in stormy weather
Than dealing with big ole umbrella."

chickelit said...

Will "The Wall Street Journal" be gatekeepers or hate keepers tomorrow and throughout the shut down?

What a wonderful time to be a journalist.

Say, what ever happened to James Toranto? He used to be quoted here quite frequently. Is he still alive?

chickelit said...

I just hope there are no pizza-eating, thong-snapping interns lurking in the Oval Office this time around.

Anonymous said...

James Taranto became an editor at WSJ instead of a writer. Too bad; he was one bright spot in a paper that is slowly going down the tubes. There used to be a bunch of editors who kept tight rein on the writers and ensuring they knew the difference between fact and opinion, which was especially important because WSJ writers are among the leftist of the left according to a survey that was done. Which just shows the importance of good editing, as without that survey, I was unable to tell just from their writings how they leaned. For the past couple of years, that hasn't been true, which I can only attribute to the change in the editorial staff (which predates Taranto's promotion.) Sad, indeed.

Daniel Jackson said...

Rex, you are correct; sad indeed because we need his insights now more than his editing.

The one subject he stressed before he left the fray was the sociological issue of Too Many Women. Given the current era of sexual repression, it would be wonderful to read his insights.

Bad Lieutenant said...


Ann Althouse said...
“You are SO not getting this. "The Claw," I do not know if that is the actual AVN trade name, is a gonzo porn trope.”

1. Urban Dictionary has no definition of “claw” that relates to the mouth.

See 2 below.

2. I believe the term was the woman’s own coinage as she described it.

No doubt.

3. What you’re describing is so painful that she would have actively resisted or vomited.

Would you like me to post a link? NSFW.

4. You’re anatomically off to say “esophagus.” Look at a diagram.

Depends on the length of his fingers. Do you prefer "pharynx?"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharynx#/media/File%3AIllu01_head_neck.jpg

Bad Lieutenant said...

Also it's not painful, but extremely unpleasant and uncomfortable. But a trained person can endure it. And with buildup, increased exposure, deeper probes every time, one can be trained.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Dear Althouse:

Watch this if you dare (substitute "a" for each "@" in the URL). The first 38 seconds of this are theoretically work safe, no nudity, just hands:

https://m.xh@mster.com/videos/extreme-g@gging-teen-lesson-3591330

Then perhaps you should pour gasoline over your computer and light a match.

But if you keep watching, around 4:20 you will see the mucus I was referring to. More at about 5:30 and 5:38.

She never resists past occasionally wriggling or putting her hands on his hips to check or perhaps guide or synchronize him. She gags but does not vomit. Sometimes, when her performance seems inadequate to him, he does the claw again, perhaps to open her up better.

This is an amateur video. She has not been visibly coerced and I doubt she has been paid, if so it would have been a trivial amount - I believe this is Russian.

Please watch this and tell me that I was anatomically off, Miss Mather.

If you try really hard, you may be able to construe this as empowering for women, demonstrating their endurance and ability to tolerate the intolerable when sufficiently motivated (watch the last ten seconds for her facial expressions). Perhaps that's what Grace thought: she could take it.

Some of the comments say it was too soft-"no faceslapping" was one. There's plenty more like this out there, some is far, far worse.