December 1, 2017

Liberal media pats Jimmy Kimmel on the back for helping Roy Moore get elected.

That's not what they think he did. They think he was brilliant and really drove home the awfulness of Roy Moore. But that's what he did. I mean, if I know Alabamans, and I don't, really. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think this kind of thing exalts Roy Moore in the eyes of the relevant electorate.

Emily Yahr, at Washington Post, does a phenomenal job of showing how it looks inside the liberal cocoon, in "Read Jimmy Kimmel’s scathing response to Roy Moore after their ‘Twitter war.'"

The Jimmy Kimmel show sent its comedian down to Alabama to disrupt a Roy Moore rally that was taking place in Magnolia Springs Baptist Church in Theodore, Alabama. That gave Roy Moore the opportunity to put up this tweet:



That tweet gave Jimmy Kimmel the opportunity to put himself at the center of the important Senate race, and he did it in a way that is powerfully viral to Moore haters:



Kimmel did a great job, within his own realm, playing to his audience, going viral through the Washington Post and other liberal media outlets, but I think it will help Roy Moore in Alabama. I don't want to say comedians should restrain themselves lest they skew an election. I want vibrant, vicious comedy that flies free from political practicalities. But I think Jimmy Kimmel just helped Roy Moore a lot.

Now, is the Washington Post stupid not to go into the political downside of Kimmel's comedy? Maybe not. Maybe it's choosing to amuse and soothe its readers, and it's all for the good of circulation. It's too late to undo what Kimmel did, and the clip is viral whether WaPo participates in the vitality or not, and if it doesn't, it risks looking dull and unaware of what's happening in pop-culture media. And anyway, they already knew by yesterday that Roy Moore had made it through his ordeal so it was okay to give up on trying to affect the election and move on to the painful enjoyment of hating the new Senator.

154 comments:

rehajm said...

Maybe it's choosing to amuse and soothe its readers

It has become difficult to tell if they're still trying to influence or if it's salve.

tim in vermont said...

Yeah, these torpedoes keep locking on to the wrong targets. It's almost like there is some disturbance in the force, due to the arrival of a new player on the political scene..... Naah!

etbass said...

He was going to win anyway, but Kimmel has definitely improved the margin.

Fabi said...

I don't live in Alabama, but do business there several times per year. The "coasties" in their perpetual arrogance believe they can belittle and shame the unwashed flyover denizen into supporting their preferred candidate. That's not the way it works -- and I'm not so sure that our betters will ever awake to that reality.

tim in vermont said...

Whether Democrats in Ann Arbor or San Fransisco know it or not, Republicans in Alabama know that this same press, and these same Democrats covered for Bill Clinton's rapes for decades.

Paco Wové said...

"the painful enjoyment of hating"

Great turn of phrase.

Wilbur said...

I said a long time ago, the more they attack Moore, the more they enable him to win. Their cocoon does not allow them to see outside of their echo chamber (love to mix those metaphors).

etbass said...

And why would you vote for someone who admittedly would support murder of unborn babies over another who has denied a concocted charge of sex abuse 40 years ago?

And besides, Alabama voters are stupid anyway.

Clyde said...

Yahr? Is it 'Talk Like A Pirate Day' again already?

Clyde said...

And yes, many of the people in Flyover Country don't like the coastal "elites" sneering at them, and they're not stupid. If the media types like Kimmel don't like him, that's a badge of honor.

AReasonableMan said...

No one has ever seriously believed that the Alabamans were going to vote for anyone other than the Republican. It is other Republicans that don't want this to happen. Democrats are perfectly happy to watch a Republican child molester voted into the Senate. Solves some problems for them.

tim in vermont said...

Meanwhile, Gloria Steinem doubles down on her defense of Clinton in '98. It's almost as if Democrats don't really believe they shit they are peddling... Naah!

Fred Rawlings said...

It is hard to underestimate the hatred that this stunt will foment. It was a church. It's over.

james james said...

The Bar Buddhist says he doesn't talk about politics: he prefers to stay above the petty matters of man. But when he talks about the petty matters of man he is usually talking about current politics. And he talks about the petty matters of man a lot.

An example. He is for higher taxes for the rich: because Buddhism. You can probably extrapolate from there.

When it comes to politicians caught in scandals, he gets very enthused about the petty matters of man. Sometimes Buddhism understands and forgives the scoundrel, sometimes it will exact terrible karmic revenge. He is pretty sure on which will happen, depending on the politician. His Buddhism is pretty consistent that way, if it really isn't consistent with Buddhism.

My guess is that his Buddhism primarily helps with his not getting laid. The universe has reasons. Sometimes when get gets really drunk he talks about becoming a Guru. Because chicks dig Gurus, I believe is the thinking. I thought that the chicks-digging-gurus was pretty much a Sixties Thing. Although his head is still pretty much in the Sixties. Even though he was in grade school at the time.

He could consider becoming a yoga instructor: he might have better chances in today's world. But he is not nearly limber enough for yoga. And he wants the limber girls.

- james james

tim in vermont said...

Solves some problems for them.

I keep forgetting that ARM isn't a Democrat! He's "non partisan"! Non partisan defender of a Democrat rapist.

Larry J said...

I live in Alabama (Huntsville) and have never liked Roy Moore. He's a grandstander and self-promoter. I don't know if the allegations against him are true or not. I do believe in the presumption of innocence and at this point, nothing has been proven against him. I do see Democrats who've defended their own with proven records of bad behavior towards women (JFK, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, John Conyers, to name just a few) while demanding we discard Roy Moore on the basis of allegations. Their double standards are noted.

To me, this election is coming down to deciding whom I distrust the least - Roy Moore or the press. At the moment, I'm leaning towards Moore. The press has a long history of bias, selective coverage, and lies when it comes to covering elections. If Moore loses, you can bet your mortgage payment that many other Republicans in future races will suddenly have "credible" accusers coming forward in the days before an election. So, I'm likely to vote for Roy Moore. Afterwards, I'll go home, take a shower, and hope to get the stench of this election off of me. I'll likely use a lot of mouthwash to get the taste out of my mouth as well.

As for asshats like Jimmy Kimmel, he is making it easier to make this decision. Personally, I've never seen his show because I work for a living and have to get up in the morning.

Chuck said...

Yesterday, I saw televised video of protesters at a Moore speech. They had "come down" there "to Alabama" to confront Moore "man to man."

Moore had them kicked out.

Curious George said...

"AReasonableMan said...
Democrats are perfectly happy to watch a Republican child molester voted into the Senate. Solves some problems for them."

I'll ignore the slur and ask what those problems are ARM?

JPS said...

A southern man don't need Jimmy around, anyhow.

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

This reminds me of when Andy Kaufman came to Memphis as a Hollywood wrestling heel and carried on the feud with Jerry Lawler that made it all the way to the David Letterman show. Of course, Kimmel is more sophisticated but so are most Alabama voter's (relative to Memphis wrestling fans during that period). Same dynamic; same effect.

AReasonableMan said...

Curious George said...
what those problems are ARM?


They can reasonably argue, we might be bad but not as bad as the other guys. They just put a child molester in the Senate.

Fabi said...

Thanks for the firsthand report, LarryJ. Huntsville is a great city -- it's claimed that they have the highest ratio of PhDs in the country. It may be true -- the tech groups I help fund in town are brilliant. HudsonAlpha, in particular, will help shape the future.

EDH said...

The Jimmy Kimmel show sent its comedian down to Alabama to disrupt a Roy Moore rally that was taking place in Magnolia Springs Baptist Church in Theodore, Alabama.

Is there video of that somewhere?

Chuck said...

Electing Roy Moore in the primary wasn't the first time Alabama made a terrible mistake.

#CivilWarY'all

Fabi said...

It doesn't seem reasonable to casually toss around the term "child molester". It's especially true when the nature of the charges is so suspicious.

Fabi said...

Chuck dives in with some regional bigotry. Unexpectedly.

tim in vermont said...

Democrats are perfectly happy to watch a Republican child molester voted into the Senate

Yes, one accusation from 40 years ago? Absolute proof! Five contemporaneous witnesses, including one who found the victim bleeding, with torn clothes, crying that Bill Clinton had just raped her in the hotel room? What were ARM's words?

"That doesn't make him a rapist." - ARM

But he is "reasonable" and "non partisan." LOL.

clint said...

Getting Moore elected isn't a bad thing at all for left-wing comedians and journalists.

They *need* boogeymen.

Heck, they keep trying to pretend fringe nuts like David Duke and that nazi guy are typical Republican leaders. Having an actual senator who hits all kinds of bullet points (Ten Commandments!!! Child Rape!!!1! #YesAllGOP!!!) is a huge, huge bonus for them.

Curious George said...

"AReasonableMan said...
Curious George said...
what those problems are ARM?

They can reasonably argue, we might be bad but not as bad as the other guys. They just put a child molester in the Senate."

Thanks for clearing up the fact that you're an idiot.

Leslie Graves said...

Insightful perspective. I agree and I can easily imagine the political consultants tasked with electing Roy Moore laughing at all this with incredulous glee and high-fiving each other, and laughing some more.

AReasonableMan said...

For the record, I am agnostic on the question of whether or not Moore is a child molester. There are allegations, and it is unquestionably the case that many of his fellow Republicans are sufficiently concerned about the validity of those allegations that they have threatened to block him from the Senate.

FleetUSA said...

Thanks Larry J for your man in the street commentary. Spot on.

traditionalguy said...

Sweet Home Alabama was a good hearted portrayal of Alabamans. But that is rare. The certainty that Alabamans are Neanderthals unfit for social acceptance is a reliable tool the Yankee pols have used to incite northern voters for 150 years. And not only that, southerners talk funny too.

But Alabamans are used to it. It's already baked in, as Wall Street guys like to say. We enjoy watching the trouble Yankees relocating to Atlanta have when discovering our culture is nicer and more open than the one they left.

But Moore is appealing to the goodness in people. And that spooks Kimmel and Hollywood with a fear that has them near insane. Bible Belt Goodness seems to Hollywood like the heart of darkness. Southerners laugh at that and say we are too busy to hate, but we also like to remind our critics that Delta is ready when you are.

tcrosse said...

Liberal media apologized

What a shame, because Liberal Media once was such a wonderful story-teller.

John Lynch said...

The GOP is now the party that doesn't care about sexual morality. The Democrats are now the party of puritans. What a role reversal.

Fabi said...

ARM now claims to be agnostic about the charges against Moore, but that hasn't stopped him from chronically deploying that slur. Fuck off, little boy.

Meade said...

"Liberal media pats Jimmy Kimmel on the back for helping Roy Moore get elected."

Patting Jimmy on the back would've been okay but then Jimmy told Liberal media about his unhappiness and Jimmy's shirt was open and Liberal media's hand went up it about six inches. Jimmy recoiled. Liberal media apologized and sent Jimmy an email of apology later and he replied that he had forgiven them and not to think about it. They were friends.

james james said...

There was an overweight guy with bad hair who used to come to the bar regularly. I realize overweight and bad hair doesn't narrow things down too much, but I need to retain plausibly deniability. So: there was an overweight guy with bad hair who used to come to the bar regularly.

He would occasionally talk to the regulars -- about sports, mostly -- but he pretty much kept to himself. Read a book. Seemed like spy novels, mostly. Oh yeah: acne scars.

Then the rumor went round. He was, evidently, a child molester. Just because people frequent bars doesn't mean they don'y dislike child molesters as much as everyone else. If that is what you were thinking. Probably not what you were thinking, I don't know.

So: child molester. details vary, as the details in rumors often do. One kid, several kids. Various ages of the children given. A lot of people believed he sodomized the children: maybe that is why I pointed out the acne scars.

He talked to one guy at the bar he was closest to, although not really that close. The child molester thing was a charge his ex-wife made when they were in the midst of their divorce. He said she was cheating on him, so threw back an accusation to make him seem like he was the bad guy.

This story got around, too. A lot of the guys at the bar have ex-wives -- go figure -- and they pretty much can see their own ex-wife being mad enough to do that kind of shit. But the rumors still went around. Being accused of being a child molester: it is like getting sprayed by a skunk in which you can never get rid of the scent. Whether it is true or not.

I don't know if it was true or not. If I had to guess, I would say it wasn't true. He didn't seem like that kind of guy. But them most of them probably don't seem like that kind of guy. Which is the problem, really.

- james james

Larvell said...

"Wow, [liberal comedian/talk show host/media personality] totally PWNED [conservative politician/person] last night!!!" is the left's favorite type of circle-jerk.

etbass said...

Larry J said it well.

tim in vermont said...

For the record, I am agnostic on the question of whether or not Moore is a child molester.

Yes, of course, whatever you need to be at the moment to keep you from acknowledging that your "unbiased" press has covered for a rapist (Oxford (kicked out. Why? There were rumors), Yale (Yiipes, he was already seeing Hillary), and of course Little Rock) for decades. What else have they lied about through omission?

Goddamn Matt Drudge! And I am supposed to be scandalized by this accusation? Given the way it was unveiled just as it was no longer possible to get him off the ballot, I would say Democrats deserver what they get for trying to be too clever.

That being said, this will probably cost the Republicans more than a single seat in the Senate that would have been lost if Moore was defeated. And Jones was a certain one termer. If I were Democrats, I would be playing that picture of Moore with his pistol on stage, like Saddam Hussein, over and over and over again in close Senate races.

tim in vermont said...

Forest Gump was a positive portrayal of Alabama. Well, mostly.

buwaya said...

The civil war proceeds an escalates.
Its not really politicians vs politicians, or pundits vs pundits, but peoples vs peoples.

Anyway, its not surprising that you get tribal TV shows.

The interesting battle here is not about the content but the communication channels, the venues for this partisan programming. The liberals have the strategic heights here. They control nearly all that comes over broadcast licenses or cable and thereby control content. There can be no right-wing Kimmell, such a thing would not be permitted.

The new media is likewise being consolidated into a few giant liberal controlled monopolies. The constant suppression and harassment of conservatives on Youtube (which has been a serious competitor to traditional TV) and Twitter is a consequence.

Trumps retweet of the British videos is significant. The powers that be do not want a free flow of inconvenient information. The point is to suppress and manage information so as to suppress opposition to those in power. Trump showed just how far the PTB will go to suppress speech - they will jail people, given the chance.

This is a war of the public against their would-be masters, of liberty against despotism.

AReasonableMan said...

Again, it is Roy Moore's fellow Republicans who have been sufficiently concerned about the validity of the allegations against Moore that they have threatened to block him from Senate. Presumably they have at least some insider information on the issue. When many of his peers not only don't come to his defense but want to act as prosecutors it is not a good sign.

Curious George said...

"John Lynch said...
The GOP is now the party that doesn't care about sexual morality. The Democrats are now the party of puritans. What a role reversal."

"tim in vermont said...
That being said, this will probably cost the Republicans more than a single seat in the Senate that would have been lost if Moore was defeated. And Jones was a certain one termer. If I were Democrats, I would be playing that picture of Moore with his pistol on stage, like Saddam Hussein, over and over and over again in close Senate races."

You guys are delusional.

buwaya said...

The reaction of Republicans vs Moore is no particular ding on Moore. The Republican establishment is just a branch of the political establishment, the network of power and money.

As we saw with Trump, they will naturally unite with their putative enemies to repel outsiders.

Michael K said...

Democrats are perfectly happy to watch a Republican child molester voted into the Senate. Solves some problems for them.

No, it doesn't "solve" the kind of problems Democrats have.

The latest is The Mass Senate leader's "husband was molesting other men"

Another triumph for gay marriage. At least Barney Frank's "boyfriend" was only running a gay whore house out of their shared apartment.

The "husband" was last bragging about his Influence on legislation.

ARM has a limited view from his location in the cesspool.

Mac McConnell said...

Trump won Alabama with 64+% of the vote. Moore beat the Republican endorsed by Trump in the primary and was leading his Democrat opponent in the general by 8 to 10 % when the accusations hit. Moore then dove to a -5% against the Democrat, Moore is now at 6+%. If Moore get 6+ on election day in 11 days that is a landslide. If that happens, Moore should send Kimmel a "Thank" You card for flying a "Forest Gump like character" to Alabama. I hope a lot of potential Republican write-in voters, "Forest Gump" voters, saw this.

We in flyover country have no delusions of who we are. We get bombarded by the Coastal's media and many of us visit their cities. The Coastals never leave their bubbles, advantage us.

jaydub said...

ARM: "For the record, I am agnostic on the question of whether or not Moore is a child molester."

Okay, Scooter, I for one will believe you when you say this at 7:57, but does it mean you were just lying up thread when you said:

"Democrats are perfectly happy to watch a Republican child molester voted into the Senate." at 7:20 and

"They just put a child molester in the Senate." at 7:40

Or, did your lawyer call you at 7:55 and ask you what the f*ck you were doing?

Ken B said...

Chuck wrote
"Yesterday, I saw televised video of protesters at a Moore speech. They had "come down" there "to Alabama" to confront Moore "man to man."

Moore had them kicked out."

Chuck, I know you're deranged about Trump but I never knew you were so stupid. Mocking people in a church isn't doing anything 'man to man' That you cannot see this surprises even me.

Fabi said...

Listen carefully, jaydub -- ARM has declared himself reasonable and that's the end of the damned discussion! ;-)

AReasonableMan said...

jaydub, are you seriously arguing that the Dems are not going to say, 'They just put a child molester in the Senate.'

jaydub said...

ARM: at 8:19 "Again, it is Roy Moore's fellow Republicans who have been sufficiently concerned about the validity of the allegations against Moore that they have threatened to block him from Senate. Presumably they have at least some insider information on the issue."

Yep, Scooter got a call from his lawyer. But, did he not tell you to delete those comments before Jaydub sent them to the Moore campaign? Oops, too late.

AReasonableMan said...

jaydub, if Moore wanted to sue me over his past sexual history with young women he would be even crazier than the Republicans think.

AReasonableMan said...

In other Republican related news:

Michael Flynn, Trump's ex-national security adviser, is expected to plead guilty Friday to lying to the FBI

JPS said...

traditionalguy:

"We enjoy watching the trouble Yankees relocating to Atlanta have when discovering our culture is nicer and more open than the one they left."

I didn't have trouble, exactly. I will say I was surprised to learn (by degrees, over years) that race relations in Atlanta are distinctly warmer than in the large northeastern city where I'd lived for many years. In retrospect it says more about me than about Atlantans that I was surprised.

Mike said...

"Wow, [liberal comedian/talk show host/media personality] totally PWNED [conservative politician/person] last night!!!" is the left's favorite type of circle-jerk.

Well said! And like a sugar rush, their highs from this kind of thing are followed by a crash as they realize no one outside the bubble is converted by their perverted mores on display.

LarsPorsena said...

Do you think all those clever showfolk will ever get a clue?

Fabi said...

Flynn to be Scooter Libby'd. This is my shocked face.

AReasonableMan said...

Moore Admitted To Knowing Some Of His Accusers, Now He’s Saying He Doesn’t Know Any Of Them?

Clyde said...

AReasonableMan said...
For the record, I am agnostic on the question of whether or not Moore is a child molester. There are allegations, and it is unquestionably the case that many of his fellow Republicans are sufficiently concerned about the validity of those allegations that they have threatened to block him from the Senate.


Any Senate that was the long-time home of Edward Kennedy and still has Robert Menendez and Al Franken as members has no standing to make moral judgments about anyone else's sexual morality.

CWJ said...

"It doesn't seem reasonable to casually toss around the term 'child molester'. It's especially true when the nature of the charges is so suspicious."

Fabi, it's his M.O., but you probably knew that already.

jaydub said...

ARM: " In other Republican related news:

Michael Flynn, Trump's ex-national security adviser, is expected to plead guilty Friday to lying to the FBI."

You realize that this means they spent the better part of a year trying to prove "collusion" with Russia and had to instead settle for a process crime, i.e., lying to the FBI? You've got to be a couple of french fries short of a Happy Meal to think this is bad news for Republicans.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Kimmel still wont comment on actual crimes perpetrated by Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton.

Why? Because Kimmel is a Democrat-corruptocrat.

Mac McConnell said...

If Mitch McConnell blocks Moore from the Senate, Mitch can kiss his ass goodbye as Majority Leader. This would be the first time the Senate refused to seat a certified winner of an election. It would also be the first time the Senate refused to seat a certified winner not proven to have been elected by extreme voter fraud. It would be the first time the Senate penalized in anyway a certified winner for things that happened more than three decades before the Senate election.

Assrat said...

>For the record, I am agnostic on the question of whether or not Moore is a child molester.

>They just put a child molester in the Senate.

I think an inability to remain coherent across a single thread is the first sign of dementia.

Michael K said...

Blogger AReasonableMan said...
In other Republican related news:

Michael Flynn, Trump's ex-national security adviser, is expected to plead guilty Friday to lying to the FBI


Well known Republican Martha Stewart was similarly prosecuted on a technical violation.

Proving he FBI is "on the case" but off the mark.

Pitiful. Mueller should just fold up his tent and go home but he has $50 million is try to justify,

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

“ There are allegations, and it is unquestionably the case that many of his fellow Republicans are sufficiently concerned about the validity of those allegations that they have threatened to block him from the Senate. “

And I have yet to meet a single Democrat concerned about supporting the forcible rapist and his enabler.

Bob Boyd said...

"They can reasonably argue, we might be bad but not as bad as the other guys. They just put a child molester in the Senate."

Do you really think Democrats believe they have sunk so low they could use a child molester in the Senate so they can benefit by the comparison? You might be onto something.

Mac McConnell said...

Mueller while FBI Director botched the 9-11 attach, but got a fired ex WH official for lying about a political matter.

Rusty said...

tim in vermont said...
"Meanwhile, Gloria Steinem doubles down on her defense of Clinton in '98. It's almost as if Democrats don't really believe they shit they are peddling... Naah!"

Look at the post above yours. Those morons will believe anything.

CWJ said...

I was pleasently surprised that Kimmel became a successful talk show host. He had always seemed the most entertaining of the current group. But this further transformation into the voice of progressive outrage seems to have come out of the blue. First it was healthcare, then guns, now sexual harrassment. This last is particularly bizarre coming from a man whose career took off promoting clips of "girls on trampolines."

James K said...

It would be the first time the Senate penalized in anyway a certified winner for things that happened more than three decades before the Senate election.

The Dems didn't have a problem with Byrd's KKK involvement.

AReasonableMan said...

Bob Boyd said...
Do you really think Democrats believe they have sunk so low they could use a child molester in the Senate so they can benefit by the comparison?


Yes. I think they see him as a net benefit to them, as long as he remains a Republican. Sure they may do some polite tut tutting but on balance a Republican child molester in the Senate would look like a good deal to them, as it would to any opposition party in the same circumstances. To be able to at least semi-plausibly taint the other party as the party of child molesters is a political home run.

Grant said...
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Mac McConnell said...

The Dems and America had no problems with Truman's or Hugo Black's connections to the KKK.

tcrosse said...

It's hard to believe this is the same Jimmy Kimmel who did The Man Show with Adam Corolla.

Roy Jacobsen said...

Wait... Kimmel does comedy?

[I know: too easy.]

Mac McConnell said...

The Party of NAMBLA would have problems with "child molesters"? The Party of Castro Street would have a problem with "child molesters". The list is endless.

Michael K said...

"To be able to at least semi-plausibly taint the other party as the party of child molesters is a political home run."

Hope springs eternal.

What happens when Corfman disappears after the election ? Do you really think this is going to hold up ?

tcrosse said...

Jimmy Kimmel might be called upon to apologize for this:

Guess what's in my pants

William said...

I don't watch his show, but I've heard he maintains a tactful silence on Harvey and pledges not to make any discomfiting jokes when he hosts the Oscars. The hypocrisy is strong on this one. Let's hope that some producer or poobah on his show doesn't have a metoo# ex girlfriend..... I don't follow Roy Moore that closely. Some of the allegations are credible, but the timing of their disclosure is very suspicious. It seems manipulative on the media's part to spring this rabbit out of the hat at such a late date. Kimmel's monologue just feeds into the belief that we're being played.......I wouldn't mind if Moore gets elected on a platform of saying fuck you to the media. I also wouldn't mind if he gets bounced from the Senate, and they have another election.

dda6ga dda6ga said...

Kimmel sees that Rose had a lifetime gig if he had only kept it in his pants. Trying to be Charlies's replacement???

Khesanh 0802 said...

Here's Fabi's comment on ARM's BS about Moore/ "ARM now claims to be agnostic about the charges against Moore, but that hasn't stopped him from chronically deploying that slur. Fuck off, little boy." Good call by Fabi. ARM was willing to slur until called on his presumption of guilt. When called, he ran for cover. ARM, really disappointed in you, man!

cubanbob said...

Jimmy gets his LA's confused. Jimmy here's a hint: the election isn't being held in your LA.

Angel-Dyne said...

John Lynch: The GOP is now the party that doesn't care about sexual morality. The Democrats are now the party of puritans. What a role reversal.

There's no reversal here. The Democrats have always been the party of puritans -- when it comes to applying their fundamentalist dogmas...to the other guy. The GOPe has generally gone along with the Dems moral crusades...against their own guys.

All you're seeing here is a significant number of people with an "R" next to their names or votes refusing to join the latest round of Dem selective puritanical outrage. The GOPe hasn't made any moves in any direction. They were eager to join the Dems' latest crusade and will remain on the Dem side re Moore, whatever happens.

Khesanh 0802 said...

@CWJ You give Kimmel too much credit. He is just reading a script based on the political perception of the writers. He is not a philosopher king.

Khesanh 0802 said...

Were I in Alabama I would vote for Moore giving the "elites" the same finger that I gave them when I voted for Trump.

rcocean said...

Kimmel's the asshole who kept his mouth shut about Weinstein and wouldn't attack him. Cause Hollywood value's or something.

But he's sending his "comedians" down to disrupt a Christian church service. (Note: would he ever send a "comedian" to disrupt a service in a Synagogue? The question answers itself.)

Isn't amazing how, like trump, the whole Media-Entertainment Industrial Complex along with the Political Establishment hates Judge Moore. And for what? Just uttering a few peeps against the Party line. Its like living in the USSR now. We even have Communists being celebrated in the NYT.

CWJ said...

tcrosse's most recent comments,

Exactly, with The Man Show in his past I would think Kimmel would at least balk at pushing this too hard. Who knows for whom the reckoning will come next. His allies may give him cover, but maybe not.

rcocean said...

And for the drama queens on the Center and Right who will "hold their nose" or "take showers" after they vote for Moore.

Can they explain *Exactly* what policies Judge Moore is for that are so horrible? Again, it seems a replay of Trump where we got the Hysterical "Never trumpers" going on about how Trump was blah, blah, blah but never *Exactly* telling us what Trump policies were so terrible.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Reasonable said: Again, it is Roy Moore's fellow Republicans who have been sufficiently concerned about the validity of the allegations against Moore that they have threatened to block him from Senate

Not even close. Not even 'fellow Republicans'. Those are the RINO, never Trumper, establishment swamp critter Republicans who do not want Moore to be elected because he is not one of their exclusive club members. They are the enemy and part of the disgusting swamp that needs to be blown up (virtually :-D since draining is taking too long). They know Moore will vote with the Deporables who voted for him over their preferred Jebbie like candidate, Strange.

The unproven accusations against Moore are a convenient way for them to thwart the will of the people of Alabama who voted for Moore and still try to get in a puppet who will vote establishment. A convenient way to perform a knee jerk reaction to eliminate their inconvenient opponent, Moore.

The people of Alabama are not as dumb as McConnell (Et al.) would like to think.

Yes. If Moore does get elected it is a giant middle finger to the establishment of all stripes, Republican AND Democrat.

Drago said...

ARM and LLR Chuck are free to launch their Moore-based 2018 democrat election strategy.

I personally believe that wall to wall pictures of Kate Steinle and a discussion of democrat/LLR san francisco values plastered across the nation is going to be just a "tad" more powerful.

Drago said...

i do think it is helpful for LLR Chuck tomake clear that he has no issues with lefty activists invading Churches for lefty political purposes.

Not that we all didnt already sense thay he would.

Mac McConnell said...

I have a friend with an Italian name who owned a fairly large restaurant which had a bank of pay phones in the entrance. This was when very few had cell phones, they were expensive and the size of a penny loafer. My friend was married to the niece of a deceased nationally known mob boss, but the couple has always been legit. Long story shot, the FBI tapped the office and pay phones. Seems their target was a distant relative of the wife's who was using the pay phones to make book, gambling. The target used pay phones all over town.The phone taps contained no evidence against my friend, but the FBI hauled him into a Grand Jury where he testifies that he's not surprised the distant relative is involved, but he has no knowledge of the illegal enterprise. There's no proof my friend did anything wrong, but he spends a year in Leavenworth for contempt of court and obstruction of justice. The real criminals copped a plea when the pay phone taps were played, they admitted that my friend wasn't involved and my friend was released.
His business run by his stay at home wife was destroyed, he spent two years living like a refugee to pay off vendors, he made the restaurant prosperous again and got rid of the pay phones.

The FBI is a bag of dicks.

tim in vermont said...

The fact that ARM constantly posts negative stories about Republicans, and never once, to the best of my recollection, has posted one critical of Democrats, while claiming to be neutral ("It's just that the Democrats are always right every single time!")says he's a liar. Never mind anything else he says.

But he's right. Republicans in Alabama have handed the Democrats a weapon. However, the Democrats were going to do what the Democrats were going to do, regardless.

Larry J said...

tim in vermont said...

Forest Gump was a positive portrayal of Alabama. Well, mostly.


The same can be said for "My Cousin Vinny". I think it holds up better than Forest Gump but just about everyone I've met in Alabama loves both movies. We can laugh at ourselves here and have plenty of reasons to do so.

mockturtle said...

IMO, Alabaman's don't give two hoots in hell about Kimmel one way or another. These entertainers aren't nearly as influential as they--and the media--seem to think they are.

AReasonableMan said...

For the record, I have consistently been negative about the Clintons and most of the Democrat leadership but I find the level of hatred for these people by some here veers into insanity and can't see much point in adding fuel to the dumpster fire.

On the other hand, there is an equally insane willingness to assign purity to the Republican side, unrelated to any known reality. A little reality check is always healthy.

Kyzernick said...

ARM: Presumably they have at least some insider information on the issue.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Maybe they're just afraid.

FullMoon said...

Ya know what would be really funny? A few women accusing Kimmel of harassing them back in the '90's. Maybe recovered memories, or something. It may have happened. Easy to imagine women keeping quiet at the time in order to further their carrer, or out of fear of being black listed.
He is in show business, he is a liberal.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.


tim in vermont said...

Any time I veer from reality by making claims that you can prove to be objectively untrue about the dumpster fire that is the Clintons, please do me the mitzvah of pointing it out with supporting evidence.

Kyzernick said...

FullMoon, keep in mind that Kimmel co-hosted "The Man Show" on Comedy Central. How difficult would it be to imagine that one of those "girls on trampolines" or one of their racy, scantily clad skit extras might have had an encounter with Kimmel that went about as well as Al Franken's skit rehearsal with that model/radiohost on the USO tour?

Not saying I want a false accusation to arise for peddling, but if there was ever a situation where a real case of harrassment could have erupted, that seems like prime territory. Although maybe being the star of a late night show on the then-nascent Comedy Central channel wasn't enough to inflate one's ego to the point of unrestricted groping.

tim in vermont said...

The Congressional Office of Compliance paid out just under $100,000 in taxpayer funds to two male staffers to settle sexual harassment claims against disgraced former Democratic New York Rep. Eric Massa, according to a new report.

This story would seem to be right up ARM's alley, given so many of his links. Except that the parties are wrong.

Fabi said...

"A little reality check is always healthy."

Funniest comment in all of 2017.

FullMoon said...

Kimmel says he is Christian, having made his first communion and confirmation.

Is that a Christian thing, or just a Catholic thing?

Friend claimed Christians worship Jesus and Catholics worship saints. As a "Catholic", that surprised me. Looking back, fairly certain we kids were dropped off at church so parents could have some alone time on Sundays. They were always in a good mood when they came to pick us up after mass.

Liked the incense, costumes and Latin. Priest in costume swinging a holey ball on a chain full of burning incense, smoke coming out, talking in strange language. Pretty darn mysterious to a kid.

Unknown said...

No one doubts the ability of the Democrats to claim holier than thou status. We all know that it's a total lie, especially when we see things like Democrat Matt Lauer kidnapping and raping women in his office while at the very same time acting all "shocked, shocked" at Bill O'Reilly asking a girl on a date. Bill Clinton raped women, and speaking of child molesting: how many times did your hero bill Clinton fly on the "Lolita express" ARM? Curious how you leftists completely ignore that! Oh, and you gave standing ovations to Roman Polanski. And Gary Stubbs. And didn't current senator Bob Menendez,D-New Jersey, also fly to central America to get some of that young girl action?

Yet you enthusiastically support him, ARM! Ain't no sex crime to great for a Democrat--it's all good! That's the left's motto!

Curious how NAMBLA is a leftist thing that no democrat ever bothers denouncing either, speaking of child sex crimes. In fact, how many liberals are out there earnestly promoting pedophilia? Ask Slate, which published articles calling for its legalization.... and the vast yawning indifference from you and Inga.

There is only one party that promotes child molestation, and that's your side, ARM. As for Moore--all those allegations have pretty much been proven wrong, haven't they? Of course, you won't recognize that. it hurts the narrative, after all....

--Vance

AReasonableMan said...

tim in vermont said...
This story would seem to be right up ARM's alley


Is there a video? Something so gross that you can never unsee it, no matter how long you live and senile you become.

AReasonableMan said...

For the record, I do not support NAMBLA and my lack of support dates from when I first learnt about them from watching South Park.

Unknown said...

I'm glad you don't support NAMBLA ARM, I really am.

That said, why hasn't your party driven them off the planet? Because NAMBLA certainly supports your party and your politicians. And as I recall under the "David Duke" standard you and yours uses, doesn't that make all of you guilty?

Still, you are right: NAMBLA is generally shunned by much of your party. But that leaves no excuse for the rabid enthusiastic support for Roman Polanski, Bill Clinton, Gary Stubbs, and more. Anthony Weiner did get tossed (honestly, who expected that? Democrats ALWAYS support their sexual perverts! See Ted Kennedy).

I lived in Louisiana for a time, and the Democrat candidate for governor boasted once that he would win unless he was caught with a dead girl or a live boy.... implicating that everyone would be ok with him and a live girl. And he was right, too: the fact he had his wife as well as his mistress campaigning for him openly didn't prevent his victory.

He couldn't run for reelection though.... the Feds put him in jail for corruption while governor. No one was surprised by that either.

--Vance

Big Mike said...

Huntsville is where the US does its missile research, so I ask you, Larry J, are you one of the rocket scientists? Or do you just live next door to one?

@Althouse, Huntsville was on my short list of places to retire to. Very nice place to live. We looked at homes in Madison and near Monte Sano. Downside of Huntsville is that it's a magnet for F4 tornadoes that form over Lake Wheeler (a wide spot in the Tennessee River) and head due northeast into Huntsville.

CEL said...

You get it. ARM, of course, does not. Not only did he help Moore, but he helped every Red State Republican who is not GOPe. The beauty is that even in the face of the upcoming results and having been told in advance, ARM and his ilk, will persist in not getting it because they have to. They have put themselves in their own Kafka-trap. If the get it then they cannot participate in the virtue signalling like he does above with the child molester comment. It is a win-win-and-keep-on-winning situation for ARM's opponents.

Larry J said...

Big Mike said...

Huntsville is where the US does its missile research, so I ask you, Larry J, are you one of the rocket scientists? Or do you just live next door to one?


I'm a enterprise architect. I do work with a bunch of engineers who work on rocket engines, radars, and other high tech stuff.

Kevin said...

“jaydub, are you seriously arguing that the Dems are not going to say, 'They just put a child molester in the Senate.'”

And they will be met with: “You put a rapist in the White House.”

I don’t think that conversation is going to last very long or be repeated much.

Darrell said...

Here's an interview with one of Inga's star witnesses, the cop that had a lot to say about Moore. Unimpeachable. Oops!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/30/cop-accuser-breitbart-interview-unsupported-claims-moore/

Eddie said...

I'm not a fan of Roy Moore, but he has sophisticated views consistent with the Declaration that our most fundamental rights are grounded, not in convention, but in God. (Sophisticated doesn't mean right, just that they are well-considered.) It doesn't surprise me that conservative Christians would crave a politician who says these things openly and proudly. Kimmel's efforts to say that Moore is unChristian will appeal only to his own fans who probably are not religious but think they understand what Christianity is "really" about.

hstad said...

AA gives comedians like Kimmel such genius standing on politics, then we've pretty much have forgotten that viewers, click-bait, etc., is all these bozos care about. Hollywood's sexual outing is a prime example of how moronic the entire media and entertainment complex has morphed into cultural suicide. Trump's many ill-advised Twitter comments has finally put the nail into the Media/Government collusion partnership.

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n.n said...

The Democrats support molesting unconscious and conscious women.

The Democrats support raping... rape-raping adolescent boys and girls.

The Democrats support transgender conversion therapy (e.g. homosexual, crossover), including indoctrination, and medical corruption, targeting prepubescent and adolescent boys and girls.

The Democrats support sexualizing underage boys and girls.

The Democrats support Slut Walks and other activism that degrade women's dignity.

The Democrats support "friendships with benefits" including "casting couch" relationships.

The Democrats support abortion rites that place conception before choice, thereby denying women's agency.

The Democrats support denying lives deemed unworthy, inconvenient, or profitable. The consequences of which are not contained, but are a progressive debasement of human life.

The Republicans are not Pro-Choice. They cannot deny due process and presume guilt. They cannot support justice through trial by press (e.g. bullhorn prosecutions). They cannot accept one piece of evidence (preponderance of allegations) in order to convict someone. They cannot deem someone nonviable and abort them for convenience or partisan leverage.

William Chadwick said...

Kimmel certainly seems to be in a title-match with Colbert for the crown of Hive's Most Loyal Butt-boy (Late-Night Agitprop Division).

Never was a great fan of Jimmy Fallon, but I am currently liking him for not stroking the Hive's dong; at least not as much or as blatantly as these other two monkeys.

Jim at said...

Wait a minute.
The one-time co-host of The Man Show is ripping Roy Moore?
Really?

Leland said...

I cut the vid off about a minute in.

It's difficult to see Kimmel trying to be high a mighty about a man merely accused of harassing women sexually. Kimmel stardom begin with his Comedy Central program "The Man Show". I don't have a problem with "The Man Show", but it was hardly a TV show that treated women with respect. Indeed here is a part of the Comedy Central description of the program:
"It's a place where men can come together Look at the cans on this chick named Heather Juggy girls on trampolines Time to loosen those blue jeans It's The Man Show!"

Moore is accused of boorish behavior to women, perhaps criminal, yet nobody has filed a criminal complaint. On the other hand, Kimmel is on tape after tape showing his boorish behavior to women. If I am not to pardon Moore for his behavior, how then can I excuse Kimmel's behavior. That would seem irrational, unless and until someone actually provides sufficient evidence that Moore actually committed the acts for which he's been accused.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Fabi said...
I don't live in Alabama, but do business there several times per year. The "coasties" in their perpetual arrogance believe they can belittle and shame the unwashed flyover denizen into supporting their preferred candidate. That's not the way it works -- and I'm not so sure that our betters will ever awake to that reality."

One of the few wise things Noonan has written during the past few years is that people are tired of being condescended to by their inferiors.

While I am not entirely at ease with populism, I recognize that our "elites" are in fact mediocre, corrupt and ultimately malignant. The people of Alabama - and America- are right to ignore them and to reject their claims to be our rightful rulers.

bgates said...

Solves some problems for them.

How does it solve your side's problem of your slower allies catching on that your more powerful allies have been violating women and enabling crimes against women for longer than most people in the country have been alive, if Roy Moore survives a political hit job by some "life long Republicans" who didn't care if he got the Republican nomination so long as a Democrat can be made to win the election?

Leland said...

It's funny this notion that electing Moore might help Democrats hide their problems. Zig Ziglar used to have this line about people calling Church goers hypocrits, "Well then come on over to church, we can use a few more." Voters in the South don't have a lot of respect for politicians. We don't call them "Icons" or "Lions" or other such things. We disdain politicians equally and regardless of party. Moore doesn't solve the Democrat problems of sexual abuses. He merely highlights them as being the common behavior expected of politicians.

Sydney said...

He lost me when he started talking about what a holy Christian he is. Nauseating.

Martin said...

That has got to be worth 2-4% for Moore. Not just Kimmel, but the audience reaction--condescending, snide, really nasty. Reminding everybody in AL who is their enemy, who hates their guts. Moore may well have done some offensive things to and around some under-age girls 40 years ago, but that pales next to a bunch of California liberals insulting you and your family and friends, before the world.

You would think on an issue like this, and Moore opening the door by referring to "Christian values", a competent opponent could hit it for extra bases if not out of the park. But Kimmel, his writers and his audience snatched defeat from the jaws of victory on this one (I'm not predicting the whole election). I assume they are not just non-religious but mostly anti-religious, at least anti-evangelical and anti-fundamentalist, and didn't even see the opportunity they were presented.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

If you think that Jimmy Kimmel's all it takes for Alabamans to vote for a pedophile senator, then think of what that says about the people of Alabama.

They sink lower with every bite. How much is their state sucking off of the federal dole, at last count?

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Kimmel did a great job, within his own realm, playing to his audience...

The one that takes reality and pedophilia seriously. How big an audience could that be? Hmmm....

Phil 3:14 said...

"For the record, I have consistently been negative about the Clintons..."

Why do commenters make such statements? Are we under oath? Is there a scorecard for such comments out there? Are we under the delusion that we don't occasionally go over the top with comments?

ARM do you seriously believe that making such a statement makes you look better and your adversaries worse?

exiledonmainstreet said...

Ritmo, the ones who didn't mind one bit when the Hollywood crowd gave Polanski a standing O? We know Polanski raped a 13 year old. We have no such proof when it comes to Moore, and the "evidence". Is looking shakier by the day.

but hey, unlike Moore, kiddie raper Roman is an edgy Eurpean artist, so what's a little rape. It wasn't "rape rape" as your fellow leftist Whoopie Goldberg said.

i laugh at your pretensions to moral superiority. and I hope the people of Alabama give you all the finger on Election Day, you stinking hypocrites.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Polanski, like all filmmakers, makes entertainment that someone may or may not choose to consume.

Senators make laws that place the government in control over areas of your life that they can make less or more free and successful.

So of course, there's nothing to compare. It's just more of your typical right-wing diversionary idiotic tactics. And resentment over your inability to engage with the culture and what people and the market actually favor.

Alabama can fall off of a fucking map. It's a drag on the nation, that takes more in federal handouts than it pays in (probably near the top of that list), and produces nothing of any economic, cultural or intellectual value. If he wins, it's just another nonsense pyrrhic victory of placing pride in your pedophile over the patriotism in the things that actually improve the standing of the country. Which you don't care about anyway, of course. You're too busy trying to repair your bottomless pit of pride. If you need the political success of a pedophile to repair that, then you're in too sad and pathetic state of affairs for anyone rational to engage in the first place.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

...and I hope the people of Alabama give you all the finger on Election Day...

Is that the sex move that Moore uses on his sixteen-year olds?

Is that the sex move that would have prevented you from being an out-of-wedlock mom?

Hey, I guess you have to take your posterity however you can get it, right? Planned, unplanned or or just plain prematurely.

May you have a long line of people with no control over their fate. People like you are really the best argument against free will. And therefore, against freedom.

Michael K said...

Ritmo, if McDonalds should lay you off, I think the Moore campaign might give you a job in Alabama. Of course, you would have to find a place to sleep unless your mother's basement is close enough.

exiledonmainstreet said...

its rich to see the man who has his lips firmly glued to Big Governments ass to talk about freedom like he know something about it. you're a serf, a tool, a toadie who imagines he's free.

exiledonmainstreet said...

And you're actually making me rethink my position on abortion, at least in your case. It's too bad your mother didn't exercise her freedom of choice and have you scrapped out and dumped in a trash can.

AReasonableMan said...

Phil 3:14 said...
ARM do you seriously believe that making such a statement makes you look better and your adversaries worse?


This is easy for you to say, you don't have a cavalcade of nitwits trying to put words into your mouth.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

So all you have is personal attacks, no actual arguments.

This is why things always get worse under right-wing government. It's supported by people who only know personal gratification. Right-wing government is like eating a lot of candy and being told a lot of nice lies about you, and then waking up a few years later and wondering why you're dying of diabetes, heart disease and a near-depression. Right-wing economics leads to more death. True fact.

Right-wingers are like Hamas. They love death the way normal people love life.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

you're a serf, a tool, a toadie who imagines he's free.

Excuse me. Who's constraining me? And from what, exactly?

I tell you what a cunt you are every time you act like one (which is pretty much every time you open your mouth). No one's stopping me.

I take much more advantage of my freedom than you do yours, grasshopper. You need all kinds of rules. You're repressed. You lie to yourself (and to everyone). You are afraid of the world. You need wealthy people to tell you what to do and how to do it. You're needy. You can't control yourself.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Michael K is so senile he thinks that knowing one old joke to retell decade after decade actually makes him funny.

Every time I hear him forget to come up with something new and creative to say I remember how much closer to death he must be. I guess he likes telegraphing that fact to everyone, or something.

Michael K said...

"one old joke to retell decade after decade actually makes him funny. "

Not a joke, Ritmo. I think you have a future electing controversial Republicans.

GO out there and tell the voters how stupid they are and that will work great !

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

So you vote, not in order for the best person or policy to win. But out of vengeance and resentment and for the sake of nonsensical cultural tiffs.

I think the book Mein Kampf was made just for a reader like you, Michael!

And boy, would you enjoy it! It's a real long one.

I would recommend it to your book club, if I were you.

Qwinn said...

"Right-wing government is like eating a lot of candy and being told a lot of nice lies about you, and then waking up a few years later and wondering why you're dying of diabetes, heart disease and a near-depression."

Diabetes and heart disease are what people get to die of if they manage to avoid dying in the gulags of left-wing governments.

"Right-wing economics leads to more death. True fact."

Ritmo is asserting that less than 100% of people die under left wing economics.

True fact.

chickelit said...

Should I (we) care about this man "jimmy" Kimmel?

Why does he go by such a boyish nickname? Does Trump go by "Donny"? Does "Jimmy" wear shorts? Will "Jimmy" be the left's darling in a year or so?

Why should I invest in him. Althouse?

chickelit said...

Alabama can fall off of a fucking map. It's a drag on the nation, that takes more in federal handouts than it pays in (probably near the top of that list), and produces nothing of any economic, cultural or intellectual value.

The wisdom of the founders was to give a senator's vote from Alabama the same weight as one from Massachusetts. It was never intended to be "democratic."

exiledonmainstreet said...

actually, the Wiki list list of prominent Alabamians is quite long and includes musicians as well as writers.

why were so many early rock and roll stars Southerners? because the genre was born out of the mix of blues, country, and jazz. and for a section of the country routinely mocked as uncultured, the South sure has produced a lot of writers. the contributions of Southern authors to American literature, from Faulkner to Walker Percy, is at least as important as the contributions of Jewish writers. American cuisine would be a lot poorer without southern dishes.

and no, that's not just because of the contributions of blacks. it's the cultural interplay of blacks and whites over a frequently tortured history that helped create jazz, jambalaya, Ralph Ellison and Robert Penn Warren and Flannery O'Connor, Hank Williams, Elvis, Louis Armstrong, Robert Johnson and Harper Lee. None of them could have come from north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

only a willfully ignorant bigot would ignore that.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Elvis was born in Mississippi - a state that may or may not be as backward as Alabama but at least had the good sense and distinction to never hoist upon our country a man as despicable and divisive and destructive as George Wallace and all that came with that.

Most of the culinary contributions of the South were ultimately Creole and French and African in origin - not "white," racist, slaveowner Brittano-Hibernian.

Folk's contributions to rock are acceptable, and not in any sense exclusively Alabaman. Probably moreso backwoods Kentucky, TN, Piedmont, etc. Although we'll take Lynyrd Skynyrd, if it makes you happy.

Southern writers are as overrated as most other American writers - whatever ethnicity. The only American writers that really mattered were Twain, with Melville a somewhat stable second, and then the New England writers and metaphysicians a distant third - Hawthorne, Emerson, Thoreau... as well as their poetically-inclined neighbors - Whitman and Dickinson. And of course there was also Poe - distinct enough to contribute much more to the canon than the two novelist nobodies you mention. And possibly Fitzgerald.

For whatever reason that you mention Jews, I'm not sure that any really contributed all that much to American literature, either. Perhaps IB Singer - a Pole, who basically committed to page what was already a substantial body of pre-existing folklore from his own Old World and even older world of religious mythologies. Notable, but not American. And not anything to closely compare to the titan of Twain or even his immediate circle of literary rivals.

But it's nice to see you come down from atop your Wisconsin perch to play Southern Affirmation Carpetbagger this morning. It must get to be a tiring role. But at least you can stick up for all the federal dependency that these regional, bullshitting anti-government types seem to need.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

The "coasties" in their perpetual arrogance believe they can belittle and shame the unwashed flyover denizen into supporting their preferred candidate.

You mean, like George Wallace, for instance? Oh yeah, he did GREAT things for Alabama!

He/They really showed them!

Alabama's never had it better! Can you name a standard that they DON'T lag behind in?

Number #1 - in being at the bottom of the list in just about everything. That's Alabama, for you.

Proud, proud Alabama.

William Chadwick said...

I've made my share of Alabama jokes; but my impression is that they tend to resist conversion into the Cult of the State. So in that they are more evolved and smarter than you, Toothless.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I didn't realize that resisting "conversion into the Cult of the State" is best exemplified by preventing desegregation and being near the top of the list of states that rely more on federal aid than they contribute. But you must be as unevolved and stupid as its residents, Chad!

Here are lists for Alabama that a proud, reality-challenged moron like you might appreciate!

https://altoday.com/archives/17640-alabama-ranked-near-bottom-list-best-states-startups-small-business
http://whnt.com/2017/09/13/alabama-ranks-low-on-happiest-states-in-america-list/
https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/news/2017/08/08/alabama-ranks-near-bottom-on-list-of-best-states.html

Let's hear it for segregation, bad business environments, horrible health care, general unhappiness and taking more from the federal government! Alabama's contribution to America!

You've never even been there, have you? Just another proud loudmouth who doesn't even know (or care) what he's defending, as long as he gets to beat his tribal chest and proclaim a loyalty to all that sucks in his country!

Love it.

William Chadwick said...


"Here are lists for Alabama that a proud, reality-challenged moron. . . ."

The Toothless State-fellator calls ME reality-challenged. This is a guy who thinks Big Brother is his best friend!

William Chadwick said...

Toothless hates Alabamans for having segregation. It's true, segregation was bad--mainly because it was his beloved State's intrusion into private affairs. (See the section on segregation in the Martin Luther King chapter of Jim Powell's TRIUMPH OF LIBERTY is you want to know how statist it actually was.) So you can see why Toothless would have hated segregation, as well as slavery: if there's anyone more devoted to individual liberty than the Toothless State-fellator . . . . (Ban you hear my eyeballs rolling around in their sockets?)

So, on the Statist Scale (aka the Coercion Meter), with 0 being libertarian anarchists and 10 being people like Mao, Hitler, etc., where, "pound for pound" and en masse, would you place the average Alabaman? Where would you place yourself? Would it be (as I suspect) closer to 10 than the average Alabaman, or closer t0 0?

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

State fellator William Chadwick extols Alabama - the state with one of the longest and most restrictive and least open to home (i.e. local/municipal) rule constitutions in the world.

The Constitution of the State of Alabama is the basic governing document of the U.S. state of Alabama. It was adopted in 1901 and is the sixth constitution that the state has had.

At 310,296 words, the document is 12 times longer than the average state constitution, 44 times longer than the U.S. Constitution, and is the longest and most amended constitution still operative anywhere in the world. The English version of the Constitution of India, the longest national constitution, is about 117,369 words long, a third of the length of Alabama's.

The constitution gives the Alabama Legislature the power to administer most counties directly, with only a few counties having even limited home rule. This supported provisions that essentially disenfranchised most blacks and poor whites, and further limited local autonomy. As a result, about 90 percent of the document's length, as of 2017, comes from its 926 amendments. About 75 percent of the amendments cover only a single county or city, and some deal with salaries of specific officials (e.g. Amendment 480 and the Greene County probate judge). This gives Alabama a large number of constitutional officers. It also makes it very difficult for residents of counties to solve their own problems.


Any additional stupidities and ignorance you had in store to impress us with?

http://parcalabama.org/the-nations-longest-constitution-just-got-longer/