Isn't there a Bannon candidate to run against Romney? Is Christine O'Donnell unavailable? Sharron Angle? Todd Akin? David Duke? Kid Rock? Jim McMahon? Vince McMahon?
I don't really think Trump is afraid of a Romney Senatorial seat as much as he is supporting Hatch, who has supported him. Flake is 'retiring' so Romney's hostile vote would just replace his.
Romney is a sane man, that’s a plus. He hasn’t molested any underage girls, another plus. Seems like a decent guy, but I think this guy should run for the seat.
Evan McMullin @Evan_McMullin I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Romney is smart, decent, and would try to do the right thing. If that meant opposing Trump on certain items, I am sure he would do so. On others, he would be an advocate. I hope Romney runs.
Blogger Michael K said... Sounds reasonable to me. I'm not fond of Hatch but Romney seems bent on revenge, like McCain.
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
I don't want to get too high on my horse over any hypocrisy in this. Because personally, I'd get a lot if enjoyment out of an enormous helping of revenge, served ice cold, on Trump. But unlike Trump, I put the interest of the Republican Party above personal revenge.
Inga said... Romney is a sane man, that’s a plus. He hasn’t molested any underage girls, another plus. Seems like a decent guy, but I think this guy should run for the seat.
Somehow I find it difficult to believe you were saying such things in 2012.
I don't see Romney wanting to spend six years in DC voting "no". What a waste of life for a guy like that.
If he gets the seat, put him on health care. You'll either solve the problem or he can spend his weekends on Meet the Press talking about how difficult it is to get anything done.
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
Chuck, Trump supporting an incumbent who has been a supporter is "a personal vendetta" while Romney recruiting Egg McMuffin to try to throw the election to Hillary is mature wisdom.
personally, I'd get a lot if enjoyment out of an enormous helping of revenge, served ice cold, on Trump.
As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Now if only we could find something that would force the Democrats to possibly consider approaching those values for a first time.
Romny is a Nazi. He's one of the nicer Nazis, of course. And he seems to want to oppose Trump, so that's a plus. Kind of a lowercase sieg heil kind of guy. The kind of guy who kidnaps 15 year-old girls, but then keeps them in a nice basement with cable and good food until they turn 18 and he can start molesting them without being called a pedophile.
Mormons are careful about that these days.
Evan McMullen, however, is a patriot because he seems to truly despise Trump. Unless he runs as a Republican. Then, you know, Nazi pedophile all the way.
Also: Russia. I hear it's coming down any day now.
The worst thing Romney ever did was put his dog on the roof of his car, he’s harmless, except to Trump.
“LOL, the party that ran Hillary is jabbering about justice and honesty.”
Evan McMullin tweeted that, not me. He’s a Republican, if that’s what you’re referring to.
Evan McMullin @Evan_McMullin I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Hillary is part of the aristocracy. That is why Romney supported Hillary. They are in the same party. The only difference between them is they have different people to lie to.
I wonder what Romney, the guy who would rather lose nice, and therefore lost, would do with a completely safe seat. Generally, he has conducted himself with dignity and honor, but his behavior in the last 18 months has me questioning his priorities. I'd rather he stay a private citizen.
Republicans sure are the stupid party. Romney did everything he could to help elect Hillary, he didn't do one goddamn thing to help Trump in 2016. He demanded Trump release his tax returns, called him a liar and a "racist". And refused to vote for him. In 2017, he's attacked Trump for leaving the Climate Accords, and joined the Dems and attacked Trump over the Charlottslville nonsense.
He's not a conservative, he just lies about it on the Campaign trail. He supports globalization, open borders, and bad trade deals. He cucks on everything. And to top it all, he's 70 fucking years old. If you're going to ditch Hatch, why not elect a younger man who will stick around for 30 years?
Somehow I find it difficult to believe you were saying such things in 2012.
12/4/17, 9:40 AM
No, in 2012, Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer, was guilty of cruelty towards his dog and cut a boy's hair in high school. At that time Mitt was worse than Hitler, but now Trump is worse than Hitler, and Romney hates Trump so Romney has become, hesto presto, a decent guy.
As Drago says, history begins anew every day for leftists. Unfortunately for them, the rest of us do not have the attention spans of fruit flies.
Really? Trump priorities has him going back to campaigning to reelect a near-nonagenerian to oppose Mitt because Romney doesn't spend all day lying to us. And besides that, Romney doesn't like Trump.
Consequences are immaterial in decision-making and history never repeats itself - well, it usually doesn't repeat itself but reading Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd:
"The President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case . . ."
Richard Nixon infamously and embarrassingly told talk show host David Frost [in 1977], "When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."
No Michael K you are reading me wrong as always. I like Senator Hatch and I have always liked him. Way back when Donald Trump was a Democrat and making donations to the Clintons so that they would come to his wedding, I liked Senator Hatch. If Trump likes Hatch that's fine. No doubt Trump would like Hatch if it was useful to Trump personally. But behind Hatch's back, Trump would be making low-grade jokes about Mormons.
Anyway, it's one thing if Trump really liked Hatch and wanted him to stay to avoid a fight for an open seat in a purple state. Mitch McConnell can handle those deals.
This is something different, if we are to believe this story. In this story, Trump's opposition to Romney, not his support of Hatch, is the lede.
No, in 2012, Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer, was guilty of cruelty towards his dog and cut a boy's hair in high school. At that time Mitt was worse than Hitler, but now Trump is worse than Hitler, and Romney hates Trump so Romney has become, hesto presto, a decent guy.
Don't forget about the funny underwear and the hysteria that Romney is a Mormon with a really weirdo religion. And his racist posing of his adopted granddaughter in a photo....and and and.
Romney may be a nice man as a private citizen. However, he did everything he could to undercut Trump because, as said above, Trump is not one of the elite and Romney (stick up his butt, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth attitude) is extra specially elite.
How is Hatch any better than Romney? Hatch is 100% GOPE. Ignore what Hatch says, he'll say anything to get elected. Instead look at his record: pro-Amnesty, anti-border security, pro-deficit, pro-government-run-healthcare and pro-corporation. He's everything Trump says he opposes.
Honestly I don't think it matters one way or another in terms of votes. It's not surprising that Trump dislikes Romney and vice-versa, but I don't believe Romney would be as petty as McCain has (arguably) demonstrated himself to be.
Romney is a loser. Trump loves to swat at losers like Romney to expose what losers they are. Losers like Chuck love losers like Romney, who's a loser. Romney, who is a loser, loves losers like Chuck, who's a loser. It's circularly loserish. For the losers. Like Chuck and Romney -- who happen to be losers.
I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
The assumption that the Democratic Party is "healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth" and that the Republican Party isn't by someone who claims to be a Republican and is a member of the republican establishment is exactly why Trump exists.
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
Romney's inability to fight back against the democrats and the MSM is the major reason he lost the presidency. Apparently he is only able (or willing) to fight against fellow Republicans.
You gotta love Inga's sudden respect for Romney. I wonder if we went back to 2012's election, could we find Inga's comments here expressing that same respect?
With that out of the way, Romney would make a fine Senator from Utah and would be no different in that seat than Hatch has been. I thought Romney would have made a fine president, too, but I also recognized that he lacked the fire that was needed in order to actually win that seat in the first place- a lack of fire that showed up last year during his half-hearted digs at Trump during the primaries.
It is hilarious, though, reading about this brouhaha- had Trump supported another candidate over Hatch, the stories in the very same publications would have been how Trump is stabbing Hatch in the back trying to drive him into retirement in favor of Romney.
...but I don't believe Romney would be as petty as McCain has (arguably) demonstrated himself to be.
Me, either. So, GOPe thought Trump would crash and burn so they tried a salvage operation. Boy were they wrong. But Mitt isn't a vendetta guy. He would be an asset to the Senate and to Conservative policy.
Well that comment was certainly unTrump like. Nothing vulgar or devisive there. I for one am certainly glad we have our betters like Chuckles and the GOP Establishment to point out the errors of our ways and to tell us how we should think so that we can continue to lose with grace and style.
Polico's track record, and the rest of the MSM on Trump is a bit suspect...
Romney is a nice guy, and one of the most ethical person's to ever run for President. He is an anti-Vulgar and does not Troll like Trump. Romney just takes it on the chin, and turns the other cheek (except against Republicans). The Democrats are all that matters is winning, and it does not matter how they do it. I really hoped Romney had won against Obama, but that's spilled milk.
With what happened with Trump, I am not sure that Romney would have been doing a better than Trump as President. I have a feeling, due to the resistance, Romney would not. He would not hit back at the unfair attacks from the establishment, as Trump has so effectively done.
Romney would make a good senator from Utah, and I don't think you are going to find a better candidate. I have no idea if he is even interested.
Inga: "Because he’s a normal human being unaffected by Trump Sycophantism."
Inga and the entirety of the left and liberals called Romney a misogynistic theocratic Hitler who didnt pay his taxes and was cruel to gays in high school and to animals.
Inga doesnt remember that her entire team did that because for her history started anew about 15 minutes ago. Again.
With the full backing of her operational lifelong republican allies.
“Inga and the entirety of the left and liberals called Romney a misogynistic theocratic Hitler who didnt pay his taxes and was cruel to gays in high school and to animals.”
Drago can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole. He’s a Hyperbolian from the planet Hyperbolia.
The charge against Romney, though, via an Obama ad was that a woman died of cancer because her husband lost his job at a factory that Romney closed, if my memory isn't degraded. This was a big story at the time a few months before the election. The thing I most remember about it, though, was Romney's baffling counter about Romneycare in Mass- just another example of Romney's lack of fire I mentioned earlier.
Oh sorry. I don’t remember every campaign related charge against Romney. Leave the man alone, he’s redeemed himself with his opposition of Trump. Trump sycophants now have labeled him a Trump heretic, poor man. One cannot speak against the Most Holy Trump, especially if they are Republicans.
Sorry Inga, I see no hyperbole in Drago's recollection of what was said about Romney by virtually all leftists in 2012. What was said was itself insanely hyperbolic at best and complete slander at worst, of course, which is the point.
I'll take "terms far more vulgar and disgusting than have ever been publicly said by Donald Trump" for $500, Alex.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard Trump say "damn", much less "shit" or "fuck". There's the single iteration of "pussy" we've all heard, of course, but that was a private conversation.
So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"? Or is this another example of words being redefined to attack anyone to the right of Lenin again?
“So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"?
Liars and Phonies in the aristocracy hate being called out. Trump is demonstrating on a daily basis he cares infinitely more about everyday Americans than our supposed betters in the political class.
“NEW YORK — Billy Bush said it was indeed Donald Trump’s voice captured on a 2005 “Access Hollywood” tape talking about fame enabling him to grope and try to have sex with women.
“Of course he said it,” the former “Access Hollywood” and “Today” show personality said in an op-ed published Sunday in The New York Times.
The video shows Trump, who was the star of “The Apprentice,” riding on an “Access Hollywood” bus with then-host Bush. At one point, Trump describes trying to have sex with a married woman. He also brags about women letting him kiss and grab them because he is famous.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Along with Donald Trump and me, there were seven other guys present on the bus at the time, and every single one of us assumed we were listening to a crass standup act. He was performing. Surely, we thought, none of this was real. We now know better,” Bush said in the op-ed.”
Inga said... “Inga was, apparently, born yesterday.”
Oh sorry. I don’t remember every campaign related charge against Romney. Leave the man alone, he’s redeemed himself with his opposition of Trump. Trump sycophants now have labeled him a Trump heretic, poor man. One cannot speak against the Most Holy Trump, especially if they are Republicans.
Don't remind Inga she was calling Romney an evil literally Hitler who tied his dog to the roof and caused cancer just 5 years ago. It makes her feel bad.
History must start new every morning so that the amoral and the soulless can justify their violence and hatred. It must not be pointed out the only thing they have in their hearts is their lust for power over other people.
Talks about the size of his “hands” and says he has no problems in “that area” during a Republican Presidential debate. No not al all vulgar, not Trump! Not even glaringly inappropriate.
Here's one where Inga and her pals called Romney and Ryan theocrats: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-paul-ryan-constitution-letter-20120814-story.html
Of course they conveniently forget how their Leader Trump the birther, still clings to his story of Obama being born in Kenya, around the same time he made up a story about the Access Hollywood tape being fake.
“President Donald Trump still believes that former President Barack Obama’s birth certificate may be fake, The New York Times reported Tuesday.
A senator told the publication that Trump has still not moved on from the conspiracy theory with which he launched his political career.
The senator, who was not named in the report, said Trump “has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States.””
“I could have said, ‘Mitt, drop to your knees’ and he would have dropped to his knees. He was begging me” to endorse him, Trump said. "Begging me.”
"I ruined my carpet that day... this carpet was wiped out," Trump said, describing a 2012 fundraiser for Romney he organized. "And nobody thanked me for the carpet. Maybe I can send Mitt a bill for 'carpet ruined'."
“He’s a choke artist,” Trump said of Romney. “He choked, and he choked like nobody I’ve ever seen except for [Marco] Rubio in Florida when Chris Christie was grilling him.”
"And Jeb [Bush] convinced [Romney] not to run. Can you imagine? Jeb. Jeb! See, now that he’s out, I’ll say it: He’s a high-energy salesman," Trump said.
“I heard that Mitt Romney made a fairly long speech,” Trump said, as the audience booed. “I’ll just address it quickly because it’s irrelevant.”
and then after the election they had a nice dinner together.
and we're concerned that Romney said some "not nice" things about Trump?.
Did I miss someone worrying about Romney, who's a loser, saying some "not nice" things about Trump? Mitt Romney is a fool and a loser. He's old worthless news. Trump is a winner -- that's why he gets two scoops of ice cream. Ice cream is for winners and closers.
Orrin Hatch just shepherded the tax bill through the Senate. Given that Trump is supposed to turn around and support and out of state usurper for Hatch's job? I wonder how the people of Utah would feel about having Romney - a carpetbagger - as their Senator. "Moderate" Republicans who opposed Trump will not be very popular in red states in 2018.
Romney if he ran in Utah would almost certainly win. Romney's first major political splash was rescuing the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics; and Romney got like 80% of the vote in Utah.
No one has the chops to challenge him in name recognition and fundraising. I don't even think our very popular governor could pull it off.
I'm sure the local Democrat party will try to smear him once again, though. Perhaps they will borrow Chuck, who is more comfortable attacking Republicans in vile terms. Or Inga, who wants to kill them.
Qwinn said: "So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"? Or is this another example of words being redefined to attack anyone to the right of Lenin again?"
He said "out of her wherever." Megyn Kelly has not been the same since.
Chuck said...Isn't there a Bannon candidate to run against Romney? Is Christine O'Donnell unavailable? Sharron Angle? Todd Akin? David Duke? Kid Rock? Jim McMahon? Vince McMahon?
Riiiiight...those are "Bannon candidates." Geez man, it'd be so much easier just to stick to reality, wouldn't it? Bannon has actually backed some losers recently.
I really don't know many LifeLongRepublicans who seriously accuse other Republicans of secretly supporting David Duke. I know you, Jennifer Rubin, and Evan McMullin do, but that's about it. Other than you three I mostly hear that from hard Left/woke Progressive idiots for whom anyone to the right of Hilary = a racist Nazi lover. It's just really puzzling to hear that same attack come from a real Republican! Baffling.
John Tuffnell said...Romney is smart, decent, and would try to do the right thing. If that meant opposing Trump on certain items, I am sure he would do so. On others, he would be an advocate. I hope Romney runs.
I voted for Romney and lamented his loss (I put that as the turning point for the nation--as both the signal and the action that put us on a path away from our conservative roots from which we will likely not recover) but as of today I don't think I'd include "decent" in there--not after his comments essentially supporting/backing the Antifa violence in VA. That's hard to forget.
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Sounds reasonable to me. I'm not fond of Hatch but Romney seems bent on revenge, like McCain.
Isn't there a Bannon candidate to run against Romney? Is Christine O'Donnell unavailable? Sharron Angle? Todd Akin? David Duke? Kid Rock? Jim McMahon? Vince McMahon?
I don't really think Trump is afraid of a Romney Senatorial seat as much as he is supporting Hatch, who has supported him. Flake is 'retiring' so Romney's hostile vote would just replace his.
Romney is a sane man, that’s a plus. He hasn’t molested any underage girls, another plus. Seems like a decent guy, but I think this guy should run for the seat.
Evan McMullin
@Evan_McMullin
I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Objectively, Trump is Romney's nemesis.
Romney is smart, decent, and would try to do the right thing. If that meant opposing Trump on certain items, I am sure he would do so. On others, he would be an advocate. I hope Romney runs.
Blogger Michael K said...
Sounds reasonable to me. I'm not fond of Hatch but Romney seems bent on revenge, like McCain.
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
I don't want to get too high on my horse over any hypocrisy in this. Because personally, I'd get a lot if enjoyment out of an enormous helping of revenge, served ice cold, on Trump. But unlike Trump, I put the interest of the Republican Party above personal revenge.
Inga said...
Romney is a sane man, that’s a plus. He hasn’t molested any underage girls, another plus. Seems like a decent guy, but I think this guy should run for the seat.
Somehow I find it difficult to believe you were saying such things in 2012.
I don't see Romney wanting to spend six years in DC voting "no". What a waste of life for a guy like that.
If he gets the seat, put him on health care. You'll either solve the problem or he can spend his weekends on Meet the Press talking about how difficult it is to get anything done.
Trump intends to collude with Hatch to affect the outcome of an election.
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
Chuck, Trump supporting an incumbent who has been a supporter is "a personal vendetta" while Romney recruiting Egg McMuffin to try to throw the election to Hillary is mature wisdom.
personally, I'd get a lot if enjoyment out of an enormous helping of revenge, served ice cold, on Trump.
That sounds more like you, LLR.
Romney isn't interested in revenge. That's silly. Romney won't be any different than Hatch voting wise.
I don't believe anything that comes from a source anymore.
Inga said...
As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Now if only we could find something that would force the Democrats to possibly consider approaching those values for a first time.
Romney didn't recruit McMuffin, Bill Kristol did.
The presdient’s long time nemesis? Really? Nemesis?
They never ran against each other. Did their paths cross in any real way?
Romney was another detractor. Trump has a lot of those. So what?
Fake news! Sad!
Romny is a Nazi. He's one of the nicer Nazis, of course. And he seems to want to oppose Trump, so that's a plus. Kind of a lowercase sieg heil kind of guy. The kind of guy who kidnaps 15 year-old girls, but then keeps them in a nice basement with cable and good food until they turn 18 and he can start molesting them without being called a pedophile.
Mormons are careful about that these days.
Evan McMullen, however, is a patriot because he seems to truly despise Trump. Unless he runs as a Republican. Then, you know, Nazi pedophile all the way.
Also: Russia. I hear it's coming down any day now.
/Inga
LOL, the party that ran Hillary is jabbering about justice and honesty.
Romney is a detractor, not a nemesis. Romney had his chance, but he just wasn't man enough to win the presidency.
The Democrats used the Patriot Act against political opponents and it's the Republicans who are against liberty.
I love it when LLR Chuck's mask slips all the way off!
Well played "Bowe Bergdahl Republican"!
LOL
Mitt Romney was actually the most qualified candidate ever to run for President, not Hillary.
The worst thing Romney ever did was put his dog on the roof of his car, he’s harmless, except to Trump.
“LOL, the party that ran Hillary is jabbering about justice and honesty.”
Evan McMullin tweeted that, not me. He’s a Republican, if that’s what you’re referring to.
Evan McMullin
@Evan_McMullin
I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
Romney quote: "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He's playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat."
If you were Trump wouldn't you campaign against Romney?
Is Romney a nemesis or underwhelming ally?
Romney is part of the aristocracy. Trump is not.
Hillary is part of the aristocracy. That is why Romney supported Hillary. They are in the same party. The only difference between them is they have different people to lie to.
I wonder what Romney, the guy who would rather lose nice, and therefore lost, would do with a completely safe seat. Generally, he has conducted himself with dignity and honor, but his behavior in the last 18 months has me questioning his priorities. I'd rather he stay a private citizen.
Republicans sure are the stupid party. Romney did everything he could to help elect Hillary, he didn't do one goddamn thing to help Trump in 2016. He demanded Trump release his tax returns, called him a liar and a "racist". And refused to vote for him. In 2017, he's attacked Trump for leaving the Climate Accords, and joined the Dems and attacked Trump over the Charlottslville nonsense.
He's not a conservative, he just lies about it on the Campaign trail. He supports globalization, open borders, and bad trade deals. He cucks on everything. And to top it all, he's 70 fucking years old. If you're going to ditch Hatch, why not elect a younger man who will stick around for 30 years?
Damn conservatives and Republicans are dumb.
You'd think with all the kids Mormons tend to have, Utah could find a good young Repub candidate who is not a fossil.
Somehow I find it difficult to believe you were saying such things in 2012.
12/4/17, 9:40 AM
No, in 2012, Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer, was guilty of cruelty towards his dog and cut a boy's hair in high school. At that time Mitt was worse than Hitler, but now Trump is worse than Hitler, and Romney hates Trump so Romney has become, hesto presto, a decent guy.
As Drago says, history begins anew every day for leftists. Unfortunately for them, the rest of us do not have the attention spans of fruit flies.
Really? Trump priorities has him going back to campaigning to reelect a near-nonagenerian to oppose Mitt because Romney doesn't spend all day lying to us. And besides that, Romney doesn't like Trump.
Consequences are immaterial in decision-making and history never repeats itself - well, it usually doesn't repeat itself but reading Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd:
"The President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case . . ."
Richard Nixon infamously and embarrassingly told talk show host David Frost [in 1977], "When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."
So lying and dishonesty go hand in hand.
No Michael K you are reading me wrong as always. I like Senator Hatch and I have always liked him. Way back when Donald Trump was a Democrat and making donations to the Clintons so that they would come to his wedding, I liked Senator Hatch. If Trump likes Hatch that's fine. No doubt Trump would like Hatch if it was useful to Trump personally. But behind Hatch's back, Trump would be making low-grade jokes about Mormons.
Anyway, it's one thing if Trump really liked Hatch and wanted him to stay to avoid a fight for an open seat in a purple state. Mitch McConnell can handle those deals.
This is something different, if we are to believe this story. In this story, Trump's opposition to Romney, not his support of Hatch, is the lede.
Romney's Not Deplorable
He's gentle, well-mannered
and super rich
Would never outloud say
"Hillary's a bitch"
No Romney is not the man for these times
His teeth are white
And numerous
He doesn't find Trump
Tweets humorous
No Romney is not the man for these times
His shotgun breaks
It doesn't pump
Nary a cousin
Will Romney hump
No Romney is not the man for these times
Though the dog on the car
roof's ambiguous
When it comes to the swamp
he's amphibious
Mitt Romney's not the man for these times.
No, in 2012, Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer, was guilty of cruelty towards his dog and cut a boy's hair in high school. At that time Mitt was worse than Hitler, but now Trump is worse than Hitler, and Romney hates Trump so Romney has become, hesto presto, a decent guy.
Don't forget about the funny underwear and the hysteria that Romney is a Mormon with a really weirdo religion. And his racist posing of his adopted granddaughter in a photo....and and and.
Romney may be a nice man as a private citizen. However, he did everything he could to undercut Trump because, as said above, Trump is not one of the elite and Romney (stick up his butt, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth attitude) is extra specially elite.
How is Hatch any better than Romney? Hatch is 100% GOPE. Ignore what Hatch says, he'll say anything to get elected. Instead look at his record: pro-Amnesty, anti-border security, pro-deficit, pro-government-run-healthcare and pro-corporation. He's everything Trump says he opposes.
Chuck, Politico is not a reliable source,
Kristol was the public face of the McMuffin thing but I think Romney was behind it. Who had ever heard of McMuffin?
The Mormon clique, that's who.
gadfly stays on message. Democrats do that well. Diane Feinstein had her DNC talking points ready for TV yesterday,
I getting to agree with buwaya that this is all being directed from a central source,
Let's set the Republicans at each others' throats in the Politico Fantasy League!
Politico must have a slow leak day from Team Mueller.
Good for my favorite president. Romney showed his cowardice by supporting Hillary.
McMullin? Is he still alive? I thought he had died.
Romney is part of the aristocracy. Trump is not.
Trump is absolutely part of the aristocracy. He's just better than Romney at selling himself.
"How is Hatch any better than Romney? Hatch is 100% GOPE."
Hatch is the incumbent and Romney is not. What is your point ? That Romney is not GOPe ?
That's crazy. I was a Romney supporter in 2012 and so was Trump.
Romney is now as anti-Trump as Inga and why ?
This is a fight to the death with the Deep State.
The Democrats hope to raise enough hell to take the House next election and then impeach Trump.
Why would anyone other than chuck want to help them ?
Read Codevilla's essay again.
This is the showdown.
Blogger Michael K said...
Lol. You began this page suggesting that it all "[s]ounds reasonable."
Now you question the soundness of the entire story.
Got it.
Honestly I don't think it matters one way or another in terms of votes. It's not surprising that Trump dislikes Romney and vice-versa, but I don't believe Romney would be as petty as McCain has (arguably) demonstrated himself to be.
Romney is a loser. Trump loves to swat at losers like Romney to expose what losers they are. Losers like Chuck love losers like Romney, who's a loser. Romney, who is a loser, loves losers like Chuck, who's a loser. It's circularly loserish. For the losers. Like Chuck and Romney -- who happen to be losers.
Trump is absolutely part of the aristocracy. He's just better than Romney at selling himself.
Standard Democrat talking point, Trump is vulgar and he puts ketchup on steak !
He can't be elite or aristo.
The Deep State is an incompetent parasite. Competent parasites do not kill their hosts.
Look at California and Illinois. They are going under because the public employee unions are run by greedy idiots.
Why is the FBI going rogue now ? Are Mueller and company worried that what Tillerson is doing at State might be them next ?
Blogger Chuck said...
Blogger Michael K said...
Lol. You began this page suggesting that it all "[s]ounds reasonable."
Now you question the soundness of the entire story.
Got it.
That's your problem, chuck. You rarely get it. Trump supports Hatch who has voted with him.
“Romney is now as anti-Trump as Inga and why ?”
Because he’s a normal human being unaffected by Trump Sycophantism.
I take no pleasure in this. As long as we’re a two party system, we should all want both parties to be healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth. Unfortunately, it may only be this loss of support that forces the GOP back to those values
The assumption that the Democratic Party is "healthy, decent and committed to liberty, equality, and truth" and that the Republican Party isn't by someone who claims to be a Republican and is a member of the republican establishment is exactly why Trump exists.
Trump intends to collude with Hatch to affect the outcome of an election.
As a Republican president, that's part of his job.
Hatch supported Trump for President.
If you were Trump, wouldn't you support Hatch for Senate?
So Trump's personal vendetta versus Romney "sounds reasonable." But any hint of "revenge" from Romney, which quite unlike Donald Trump he's basically never displayed, is unacceptable to you.
Romney's inability to fight back against the democrats and the MSM is the major reason he lost the presidency. Apparently he is only able (or willing) to fight against fellow Republicans.
You gotta love Inga's sudden respect for Romney. I wonder if we went back to 2012's election, could we find Inga's comments here expressing that same respect?
If you were Trump, wouldn't you support Hatch for Senate?
I would expect all Republicans to support Hatch's re-election.
With that out of the way, Romney would make a fine Senator from Utah and would be no different in that seat than Hatch has been. I thought Romney would have made a fine president, too, but I also recognized that he lacked the fire that was needed in order to actually win that seat in the first place- a lack of fire that showed up last year during his half-hearted digs at Trump during the primaries.
It is hilarious, though, reading about this brouhaha- had Trump supported another candidate over Hatch, the stories in the very same publications would have been how Trump is stabbing Hatch in the back trying to drive him into retirement in favor of Romney.
...but I don't believe Romney would be as petty as McCain has (arguably) demonstrated himself to be.
Me, either. So, GOPe thought Trump would crash and burn so they tried a salvage operation. Boy were they wrong. But Mitt isn't a vendetta guy. He would be an asset to the Senate and to Conservative policy.
You nasty ignorant fuck heads; Trump isn't "supporting" Hatch in an ordinary re-election bid.
Senator Hatch is 83. He announced his retirement. Well-earned, and honorable, I'd say.
Trump isn't now "supporting" Hatch. Hatch doesn't need, and didn't ask for, any support from Trump. Hatch isn't running.
No; the report is that Trump is trying to talk Hatch into reversing his retirement decision. To get him to run again, reportedly to spite Mitt Romney.
Your meds, Chuck.
You nasty ignorant fuck heads;
Whattsa matter? You get tired of Deplorables?
You nasty ignorant fuck heads;
Well that comment was certainly unTrump like. Nothing vulgar or devisive there. I for one am certainly glad we have our betters like Chuckles and the GOP Establishment to point out the errors of our ways and to tell us how we should think so that we can continue to lose with grace and style.
I know when I want advise about what is best for the future of the Republican Party, the first place I go is Politico.
Chuck, with his usual savoir faire is explaining to us why we should take him seriously.
You nasty ignorant fuck heads;
Yes, chuck, we love you too.
Polico's track record, and the rest of the MSM on Trump is a bit suspect...
Romney is a nice guy, and one of the most ethical person's to ever run for President. He is an anti-Vulgar and does not Troll like Trump. Romney just takes it on the chin, and turns the other cheek (except against Republicans). The Democrats are all that matters is winning, and it does not matter how they do it. I really hoped Romney had won against Obama, but that's spilled milk.
With what happened with Trump, I am not sure that Romney would have been doing a better than Trump as President. I have a feeling, due to the resistance, Romney would not. He would not hit back at the unfair attacks from the establishment, as Trump has so effectively done.
Romney would make a good senator from Utah, and I don't think you are going to find a better candidate. I have no idea if he is even interested.
You ignorant slut, Chuck- The Atlantic announced Hatch's retirement based on anonymous sources- a story that Hatch's own fucking office denied.
Hatch might be thinking of retiring, but he certainly hasn't confirmed it that I have seen.
"Bowe Bergdahl Republican" Chuck: "You nasty ignorant fuck heads"
Filed under "Words LLR Chuck has never used against any leftists"
Obvious conclusions may be drawn.
Inga: "Because he’s a normal human being unaffected by Trump Sycophantism."
Inga and the entirety of the left and liberals called Romney a misogynistic theocratic Hitler who didnt pay his taxes and was cruel to gays in high school and to animals.
Inga doesnt remember that her entire team did that because for her history started anew about 15 minutes ago. Again.
With the full backing of her operational lifelong republican allies.
Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer
Well that’s that. Can’t have a senator who causes cancer.
Chuck, do they still let you practice law in Michigan with your current vocabulary?
“Inga was babbling about "binders of women" and how Romney caused cancer.”
Binders of women, maybe, in jest, but Romney causing cancer, no, didn’t happen. This is the first time I’ve heard any such charge against Romney.
“Inga and the entirety of the left and liberals called Romney a misogynistic theocratic Hitler who didnt pay his taxes and was cruel to gays in high school and to animals.”
Drago can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole. He’s a Hyperbolian from the planet Hyperbolia.
“Whattsa matter? You get tired of Deplorables?
Here let me help Chuck out, Fucking Fuckhead Deplorables! There that’s better.
Just kidding, sorry Chuck.đŸ˜‡
Inga was, apparently, born yesterday.
The charge against Romney, though, via an Obama ad was that a woman died of cancer because her husband lost his job at a factory that Romney closed, if my memory isn't degraded. This was a big story at the time a few months before the election. The thing I most remember about it, though, was Romney's baffling counter about Romneycare in Mass- just another example of Romney's lack of fire I mentioned earlier.
“Inga was, apparently, born yesterday.”
Oh sorry. I don’t remember every campaign related charge against Romney. Leave the man alone, he’s redeemed himself with his opposition of Trump. Trump sycophants now have labeled him a Trump heretic, poor man. One cannot speak against the Most Holy Trump, especially if they are Republicans.
Sorry Inga, I see no hyperbole in Drago's recollection of what was said about Romney by virtually all leftists in 2012. What was said was itself insanely hyperbolic at best and complete slander at worst, of course, which is the point.
"nasty ignorant fuck heads"
I'll take "terms far more vulgar and disgusting than have ever been publicly said by Donald Trump" for $500, Alex.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard Trump say "damn", much less "shit" or "fuck". There's the single iteration of "pussy" we've all heard, of course, but that was a private conversation.
So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"? Or is this another example of words being redefined to attack anyone to the right of Lenin again?
“So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"?
No basis for calling Trump a vulgarian, a thousand times no!
LOL
So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"?
Vulgar:
1) lacking sophistication or good taste; unrefined.
2) •impolite, ill-mannered, unmannerly, rude, indecorous, unseemly, ill-bred, boorish, uncouth, crude, rough;
3) •making explicit and offensive reference to sex or bodily functions; coarse and rude.
"a vulgar joke"
4) •dated
characteristic of or belonging to the masses.
The Left and the elites consider Trump vulgar under definitions 1,2 and 4 even if he isn't by definition 3.
Lance said...
Romney is part of the aristocracy. Trump is not.
Trump is absolutely part of the aristocracy. He's just better than Romney at selling himself.
That is just stupid. The aristocracy obviously disagrees with you.
“So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"?
Liars and Phonies in the aristocracy hate being called out. Trump is demonstrating on a daily basis he cares infinitely more about everyday Americans than our supposed betters in the political class.
“NEW YORK — Billy Bush said it was indeed Donald Trump’s voice captured on a 2005 “Access Hollywood” tape talking about fame enabling him to grope and try to have sex with women.
“Of course he said it,” the former “Access Hollywood” and “Today” show personality said in an op-ed published Sunday in The New York Times.
The video shows Trump, who was the star of “The Apprentice,” riding on an “Access Hollywood” bus with then-host Bush. At one point, Trump describes trying to have sex with a married woman. He also brags about women letting him kiss and grab them because he is famous.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Along with Donald Trump and me, there were seven other guys present on the bus at the time, and every single one of us assumed we were listening to a crass standup act. He was performing. Surely, we thought, none of this was real. We now know better,” Bush said in the op-ed.”
PBS Newshour
Inga: "Binders of women, maybe, in jest, but Romney causing cancer, no, didn’t happen."
Your continued lies about what the dems have done in the past is entirely expected and thoroughly unsurprising.
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/09/ad-linking-mitt-romney-to-womans-death-continues-to-dog-obama-campaign/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185505/Deception-revealed-Obama-attack-ad-blames-Mitt-Romney-womans-cancer-death.html
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/242463-steelworker-ties-wifes-death-from-cancer-to-romney-in-new-obama-super-pac-ad
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/new-anti-romney-ad-same-steelworker-tougher-message/2012/08/07/ac9afe2c-e0ab-11e1-8fc5-a7dcf1fc161d_blog.html?utm_term=.3cb0ed9eaa89
Inga said...
“Inga was, apparently, born yesterday.”
Oh sorry. I don’t remember every campaign related charge against Romney. Leave the man alone, he’s redeemed himself with his opposition of Trump. Trump sycophants now have labeled him a Trump heretic, poor man. One cannot speak against the Most Holy Trump, especially if they are Republicans.
Don't remind Inga she was calling Romney an evil literally Hitler who tied his dog to the roof and caused cancer just 5 years ago. It makes her feel bad.
History must start new every morning so that the amoral and the soulless can justify their violence and hatred. It must not be pointed out the only thing they have in their hearts is their lust for power over other people.
Talks about the size of his “hands” and says he has no problems in “that area” during a Republican Presidential debate. No not al all vulgar, not Trump! Not even glaringly inappropriate.
Here's one where Inga and her pals called Romney and Ryan theocrats: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-paul-ryan-constitution-letter-20120814-story.html
Another Inga thread.
And of course, Inga and her pals constantly called Romney Hitler.
http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-maher-democrats-trump-romney-mccain-2016-11
Of course, Inga has "officially" forgotten all about these things because she has to in order to advance todays Inga/LLR Chuck/ARM narratives.
“Don't remind Inga she was calling Romney an evil literally Hitler.....”
Very special coming from the extremist who calls everyone left of center a “Stalinist”. Special Achilles.
How strange that the only possible Republican Candidate is Romney. Has he been crowned the candidate a la Hillary somehow, without a Primary?
Oh. According to Politico.
Why should anyone believe Politico in this case?
"Surely none of this is real. We now know better."
Based on what, exactly? What changed?
I think we all know what changed. And it wasn't Trump.
Of course they conveniently forget how their Leader Trump the birther, still clings to his story of Obama being born in Kenya, around the same time he made up a story about the Access Hollywood tape being fake.
“President Donald Trump still believes that former President Barack Obama’s birth certificate may be fake, The New York Times reported Tuesday.
A senator told the publication that Trump has still not moved on from the conspiracy theory with which he launched his political career.
The senator, who was not named in the report, said Trump “has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States.””
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-still-touting-obama-birther-conspiracy-theory-behind-closed-doors-725358
Leave the man alone, he’s redeemed himself with his opposition of Trump.
"Good" Republicans are republicans that attack other Republicans.
“Another Inga thread.”
Oh sorry darlin’. Am I taking away attention from you? Don’t you have a book report to write? Due Wednesday, don’t forget.
Michael K wrote:
"but Romney seems bent on revenge"
Evidence please.
Here are a few Trump quotes regarding Romney:
“I could have said, ‘Mitt, drop to your knees’ and he would have dropped to his knees. He was begging me” to endorse him, Trump said. "Begging me.”
"I ruined my carpet that day... this carpet was wiped out," Trump said, describing a 2012 fundraiser for Romney he organized. "And nobody thanked me for the carpet. Maybe I can send Mitt a bill for 'carpet ruined'."
“He’s a choke artist,” Trump said of Romney. “He choked, and he choked like nobody I’ve ever seen except for [Marco] Rubio in Florida when Chris Christie was grilling him.”
"And Jeb [Bush] convinced [Romney] not to run. Can you imagine? Jeb. Jeb! See, now that he’s out, I’ll say it: He’s a high-energy salesman," Trump said.
“I heard that Mitt Romney made a fairly long speech,” Trump said, as the audience booed. “I’ll just address it quickly because it’s irrelevant.”
and then after the election they had a nice dinner together.
and we're concerned that Romney said some "not nice" things about Trump?.
You nasty ignorant fuck heads
Gee. With 'Republicans' like that on our side, who needs Democrats?
Did I miss someone worrying about Romney, who's a loser, saying some "not nice" things about Trump? Mitt Romney is a fool and a loser. He's old worthless news. Trump is a winner -- that's why he gets two scoops of ice cream. Ice cream is for winners and closers.
The media still doesn't get it.
Blogger Phil 3:14 said...
Michael K wrote:
"but Romney seems bent on revenge"
Evidence please.
I'm not going to search out all the angry things Romney has said since the election.
Before the election.
After the election.
You can fill in the rest,
MadMan @ 1:29 PM,
Your closing sentence has three too many words at the end of it.
Orrin Hatch just shepherded the tax bill through the Senate. Given that Trump is supposed to turn around and support and out of state usurper for Hatch's job? I wonder how the people of Utah would feel about having Romney - a carpetbagger - as their Senator. "Moderate" Republicans who opposed Trump will not be very popular in red states in 2018.
I swear on my mother's urn I am not a nasty, ignorant fuckhead.
Romney if he ran in Utah would almost certainly win. Romney's first major political splash was rescuing the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics; and Romney got like 80% of the vote in Utah.
No one has the chops to challenge him in name recognition and fundraising. I don't even think our very popular governor could pull it off.
I'm sure the local Democrat party will try to smear him once again, though. Perhaps they will borrow Chuck, who is more comfortable attacking Republicans in vile terms. Or Inga, who wants to kill them.
--Vance
It's up to Hatch and there is no evidence that Trump is intervening. Politico is a leftist mouthpiece,
Qwinn said: "So what exactly is the basis for calling Trump "vulgar"? Or is this another example of words being redefined to attack anyone to the right of Lenin again?"
He said "out of her wherever." Megyn Kelly has not been the same since.
Supreme Court reinstates Trumps Travel Ban.
"Bowe Bergdahl Republican" Chuck hardest hit. Inga standing by to provide political solace.
Chuck said...Isn't there a Bannon candidate to run against Romney? Is Christine O'Donnell unavailable? Sharron Angle? Todd Akin? David Duke? Kid Rock? Jim McMahon? Vince McMahon?
Riiiiight...those are "Bannon candidates." Geez man, it'd be so much easier just to stick to reality, wouldn't it? Bannon has actually backed some losers recently.
I really don't know many LifeLongRepublicans who seriously accuse other Republicans of secretly supporting David Duke. I know you, Jennifer Rubin, and Evan McMullin do, but that's about it. Other than you three I mostly hear that from hard Left/woke Progressive idiots for whom anyone to the right of Hilary = a racist Nazi lover.
It's just really puzzling to hear that same attack come from a real Republican! Baffling.
“Or Inga, who wants to kill them.”
LMAO! What a loon.
Trump loves Orrin. Both are old time American Patriots. Now they will together hatch a great America again.
How’s that for positive thinking? I bet it works. The only thing old folks need to keep going is honor and a position that makes them wanted.
John Tuffnell said...Romney is smart, decent, and would try to do the right thing. If that meant opposing Trump on certain items, I am sure he would do so. On others, he would be an advocate. I hope Romney runs.
I voted for Romney and lamented his loss (I put that as the turning point for the nation--as both the signal and the action that put us on a path away from our conservative roots from which we will likely not recover) but as of today I don't think I'd include "decent" in there--not after his comments essentially supporting/backing the Antifa violence in VA. That's hard to forget.
I see Chuck scurried away after being caught in a lie or just being an ignorant fuckhead.
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