Althouse: Saturday in the Alumni Park.

October 15, 2017

Saturday in the Alumni Park.

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Jaq said...: To steal a bit from Howie Carr, "How many more, Mr Speaker, how many more?"; 10/15/17, 4:16 PM
robinintn said...: Is this a cafe? If so, will one of you GB fans well they in on Aaron Rodgers' injury and what it means for the team? I can't seem to find much yet.; 10/15/17, 4:19 PM
robinintn said...: *weigh in* sorry!; 10/15/17, 4:20 PM
Original Mike said...: Packers are toast.; 10/15/17, 4:25 PM
tcrosse said...: As I suspected, the WAA is a pyramid scheme. That explains why I keep getting that damned magazine no matter how many times I move. (My Dad, UW 1936, kept getting it years after he died, and never gave them a nickel); 10/15/17, 4:27 PM
Original Mike said...: "Physiological"? What's that mean?; 10/15/17, 4:27 PM
rhhardin said...: It's a "Plan Ahea
d" sign; 10/15/17, 4:29 PM
tcrosse said...: I'm delighted to see that it's still possible to get a Fuck 'Em Bucky t-shirt, although not from you-know-who's Amazon Portal.; 10/15/17, 4:34 PM
Marc in Eugene said...: Will you fix the post title, please, when you get a minute?; 10/15/17, 4:45 PM
Tommy Duncan said...: Packers are toast.

With Aaron Rodgers out with a broken collar bone, Brett Hundley will be exposed now. It will not be pretty. Joe Callahan will be promoted from the practice squad to the active roster.

I predict Mike McCarthy will stick with Hundley for a while out of loyalty. But Callahan will end up the starter in a few games. The process will be ugly to watch.; 10/15/17, 4:54 PM
madAsHell said...: "Physiological"? What's that mean?

It's just a place holder for "Black Lives Matter".; 10/15/17, 4:55 PM
Quayle said...: Do they have at the park a little art exhibit or art memorial for the U Wisconsin invention of Social Security?

Like a threadbare net suspended mysteriously - even magically - over a bottomless money pit, surounded by a dense thicket of lies?

And a lock-box.

(The dense ticket of lies, of course, being the real focal point of the art piece. Lies that SS costs less than it truly does.); 10/15/17, 5:06 PM
Kevin said...: With Aaron Rodgers out with a broken collar bone, Brett Hundley will be exposed now. It will not be pretty. Joe Callahan will be promoted from the practice squad to the active roster.

Don't you mean they will get the uber-talented QB who's just waiting to lead a team to the Super Bowl, Colin Kaepernick? And if not, don't they just reaffirm the institutionalized racism hurled without thought from the left?

I mean, he left SF after throwing the ball at receivers' feet and being replaced as the starter, but who are we to throw logic at a good "white man keeping a brother down" story?

So come on Packers! Your season is over. Own up to that and use this time to burnish your "white privileged but not totally racist" bona fides.; 10/15/17, 5:06 PM
Quayle said...: Or maybe you could have a statue of somebody eating their cake and then have their cake sitting at the side of them also.; 10/15/17, 5:07 PM
Kevin said...: The Buckey statue now looks like the typical Packers fan asking themselves "WTF are we going to do without Rodgers?"; 10/15/17, 5:08 PM
Tommy Duncan said...: Kevin said: "Don't you mean they will get the uber-talented QB who's just waiting to lead a team to the Super Bowl, Colin Kaepernick? And if not, don't they just reaffirm the institutionalized racism hurled without thought from the left?

Brett Hundley is black. The Packers are covered.; 10/15/17, 5:16 PM
Original Mike said...: "Colin Kaepernick?"

I just threw up.; 10/15/17, 5:16 PM
Original Mike said...: "Brett Hundley is black."

He is? Guess I'm color blind. Which used to be a good thing, but now makes me a racist.; 10/15/17, 5:18 PM
Kevin said...: Weekend Update on SNL:

Harvey Weinstein comments, half on how ugly he is: 1:45
Trump Jokes, the last one on how he likes to use the world nigger: 3:15

Even given Harvey's exploits, all the controversy surrounding it, and their lack of saying anything about it last week, they ran 2-1 in favor of Trump jokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEfa-HjlSAs; 10/15/17, 5:20 PM
Kevin said...: Brett Hundley is black.

Yes, but is he black-black or one of the "house negroes" Kaepernick's girlfriend is Tweeting about?; 10/15/17, 5:23 PM
Kevin said...: We have already been assured that Colin Kaepernick is better than most of the backup QB's.

I look forward to ESPN's vigorous debate tomorrow about whether he's better than Brett Hundley and whether the Packers' failure to sign him should be taken as yet another sign of institutionalized racism.

Because that's what ESPN has become.; 10/15/17, 5:25 PM
Kevin said...: Here are some of the stories already running:

With Aaron Rodgers out, Packers should consider adding you-know-who
https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-packers-consider-adding-192218909.html

With Aaron Rodgers injured, Kaepernick, Romo and Favre's names come up as options
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/with-aaron-rodgers-injured-kaepernick-romo-and-favres-names-come-up-as-options/

With Rodgers hurt, fan creates petition to bring Colin Kaepernick to Green Bay
http://fox6now.com/2017/10/15/with-rodgers-hurt-fan-creates-petition-to-bring-colin-kaepernick-to-green-bay/

And right on time:

Colin Kaepernick to file lawsuit against NFL owners over collusion
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/oct/15/colin-kaepernick-lawsuit-nfl-reports

You don't think Kaepernick and his lawyers had that one typed up and ready to go for just such an occasion? They WANT him kneeling during the Anthem. They NEED him kneeling during the Anthem.

It's Roger Goodell's worst nightmare...; 10/15/17, 5:32 PM
Original Mike said...: "In fact, a fan from Oakland, California has created a Change.org petition to bring Colin Kaepernick to the Green Bay Packers."

A fan from Oakland? Screw that.; 10/15/17, 5:39 PM
campy said...: Wow, that middle plaque seems kinda Nazi-ish. "My Home"? I guess "Mein Vaterland" would have been too obvious.; 10/15/17, 5:39 PM
HT said...: Milo and Richard Spencer, together at last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNLPIRS62g; 10/15/17, 5:48 PM
Rabel said...: Laslo's hierarchy would be way more interesting than Maslow's.; 10/15/17, 5:49 PM
Ann Althouse said...: "Is this a cafe? If so, will one of you GB fans well they in on Aaron Rodgers' injury and what it means for the team? I can't seem to find much yet."

Yes, any post with nothing much more than a photo or photos should be considered an open thread.; 10/15/17, 6:08 PM
Ann Althouse said...: "Will you fix the post title, please, when you get a minute?"

Sorry it took so long.; 10/15/17, 6:23 PM
Robert J. said...: Eew, Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

I don't want to see that, I want to see Laslo's Hierarchy of Needs.; 10/15/17, 6:33 PM
George Grady said...: It doesn't matter who plays quarterback for the Packers now, their offensive line barely exists.; 10/15/17, 6:34 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: As God is my witness, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy. In this day and age it's just about impossible to keep such things secret as the good folks at the DNC can attest to. But its beginning to get a bit suspicious that there's so little solid information about the Las Vegas shooters motivation for his heinous act. Indeed, I'm also not a TV news guy, but beyond some impotent mumbling about gun control there seems to be remarkably little talk about the whole incident. It's a bit creepy.; 10/15/17, 6:47 PM
Kevin said...: As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!; 10/15/17, 6:50 PM
HT said...: I agree that the coverage has suddenly dropped off, and it's strange that it has. As for motivation, Scott Adams says again and again that the psychopath revealed the motivation in the act: "I'm evil; I'm smart; and I deserve to die."; 10/15/17, 6:51 PM
Hagar said...: Hillary! goes to Wales for an honorary doctorate, meddles in local British politics and badmouthes her own President while abroad.; 10/15/17, 6:51 PM
HT said...: Marcia Blackburn a NURSE introduced the bill that stripped the DEA to control diversion of narcotics. Thanks Nurse Blackburn!! You got our backs.; 10/15/17, 6:54 PM
gadfly said...: Colin Kaepernick to the Packers - no way! We need a smart QB not a dumb ass - and he probably can't spell "Alumni" either! Apparently, growing up in Milwaukee made him mad at at the world.

The best NFL QB not playing NFL QB is Tony Romo and he is a Wisconsin native - but he hasn't played a full NFL season since 2014.; 10/15/17, 6:58 PM
rhhardin said...: Why is it that the rescued girl always, always makes a phone call to her mom from the place her rescuer hid her and leads the bad guys right to her.; 10/15/17, 7:29 PM
Clyde said...: SNL on Harvey Weinstein: A week late, a buck short.; 10/15/17, 7:42 PM
Henry said...: That first photo is incredibly parallel, left and right.; 10/15/17, 7:58 PM
Titus said...: Looks really tacky but will play well in Wisconsin; 10/15/17, 7:59 PM
rehajm said...: Everybody pees on John Harvard, Titus. That makes him waaay 'tackier'...; 10/15/17, 8:13 PM
wildswan said...: Many things might happen with Aaron Rodgers injured. And winter is coming on - months of gray, cold months to be faced. Maybe an EMP. But we won't see Aaron Rodgers replaced by Colin Kaepernick.; 10/15/17, 8:21 PM
Bix Cvvv said...: Rodgers going down is not good news for anyone - we are all men, and an injury to any man is an injury to any one of us - give or take a few exceptions - but it is common for QBs to go down with an injury and be replaced by another QB who leads the team to a Super Bowl (in NY, DC, and Boston, anyway). It has been about a decade since a team has won the Super Bowl without an elite quarterback (Baltimore - Trent Dilfer - a tough guy but not an elite quarterback - was the last time) but being an "elite" quarterback has a lot to do with "having been given the opportunity to try and try and try again" and once in a while somebody who did not have that privileged opportunity just f**ing steps up. So no I would not count out Green Bay, they still have a good chance this year. (Not that I care, all those cold and callous kneelers - as if everyone of them did not have a grandparent with friends who died in "Nam or who would have, if asked, died in "Nam or would have went to jail instead of going to "Nam - God bless then all - have got to shape up for a few years before I give a f**k about the National Flibbertygibbet League again).; 10/15/17, 9:14 PM
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Humperdink said...: Roger Goodell frantically working the phones trying to get some NFL team to pick up the Kapper. Kap could volunteer to sing the national anthem and I still don't think any NFL team would bite.; 10/15/17, 9:16 PM
Meade said...: "I don't want to see that, I want to see Laslo's Hierarchy of Needs."

Actually, if you take out Maslow's middle 3 needs, you're left with the only 2 that are Laslo's.; 10/15/17, 9:24 PM
Bix Cvvv said...: Humperdink - no team picked up Tebow after he led his team to the playoffs. Tebow did not sue.; 10/15/17, 9:36 PM
mockturtle said...: Tcrosse complains: That explains why I keep getting that damned magazine no matter how many times I move.

My alumni magazine always finds me, too. It's uncanny. If I were ever in a witness protection program, it would by the U of WA alumni magazine that would give me away. ;-\; 10/15/17, 11:22 PM
mockturtle said...: Open thread? OK! I warned Maddon in the ninth NOT to make a pitching change. Told him, 'You'll be sorry!'. Boy, was I right! Hee hee! Great finish by the Dodgers. No way can the Cubs win at home now.; 10/15/17, 11:31 PM
Gahrie said...: Still haven't seen a monument commemorating the sacrifice of the 20% of women who attend the University of Wisconsin at Madison and are raped.; 10/15/17, 11:52 PM
Ken B said...: Within a month when you stream a movie Harvey Weinstein produced, his name won't be in the credits.; 10/15/17, 11:54 PM
Ken B said...: Seems like someone tried to kill civil war re-enactors. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/we-wanted-to-send-a-message-reenactors-stage-civil-war-battle-despite-threat/2017/10/15/77dd0348-b1c4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.e93c73e2102c

Yet another alleged hate crime turns out to be a fraud http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/court-records-man-who-spray-painted-swastika-university-of-maryland-african-american. Although it really is a hate crime. Some people want to whip up race riots. Like when NBC faked a Zimmerman tape.; 10/16/17, 12:02 AM
Ralph L said...: NBC should have used the telegraph.; 10/16/17, 12:59 AM
Now I Know! said...: Me too.; 10/16/17, 1:25 AM
Curious George said...: The Buckey statue now looks like the typical Packers fan asking themselves "WTF are we going to do without Rodgers?"

That's an easy one. Lose.; 10/16/17, 5:52 AM
Now I Know! said...: Call Kaepernick and win.; 10/16/17, 6:12 AM
Curious George said...: "Weekend Update on SNL:

Harvey Weinstein comments, half on how ugly he is: 1:45
Trump Jokes, the last one on how he likes to use the world nigger: 3:15"

Wait, what happened to the "New York thing."

Well, they know its safe to go after Harvey now that he's toast, but they still feel the need to pile on Trump to pacify their audience. Pussies.; 10/16/17, 6:28 AM
Humperdink said...: @Now I Know! Get out your checkbook and give Kap a call. Lead the way here.; 10/16/17, 6:29 AM
Robert Cook said...: After 16 years of America wasting billions on pointless murder and destruction, Trump has been given a reason for us to be--and stay for a much longer while--in Afghanistan.

Who'da guessed? It'll result in a few powerful people and entities (ours and theirs) getting rich! Who said mass murder isn't a profitable enterprise?; 10/16/17, 6:55 AM
Jaq said...: Is there any liberal trope NIK doesn't swallow without a thought?; 10/16/17, 7:01 AM
Curious George said...: They knew. From 2005!; 10/16/17, 7:26 AM
Ray - SoCal said...: I wonder what the lawyers game plan is for Kaepernick.

Some guesses:

- Sue because has good chance of winning?
- Building self reputation by suing, knows will lose.
- Settlement by threat of siding?
- Paid by Kaepernick, no game plan?
- Virtue signaling
- Fishing expedition to embarrass the NFL; 10/16/17, 7:31 AM
MadisonMan said...: If I were hiring for Green Bay, I'd sign Kaepernick, and the contract would stipulate that he stand for the Anthem or he wouldn't be paid.

I'm willing to see what the backup can do. I saw him play against the Redskins (I know, I know) in pre-season, and he looked sharp.; 10/16/17, 7:36 AM
Jaq said...: Of course they fucjing knew. In my 40 years of working in large companies and small in multiple industries, there was nothing anywhere like this "open secret" that liberals seemed to know all about. Maybe a professor dating a student... Oops, another Democrat!; 10/16/17, 7:36 AM
Jaq said...: The backup knows the plays and the system, unless he stinks, you have to go with him for now. If he can't win, the conversation starts again.; 10/16/17, 7:39 AM
Ray - SoCal said...: Is Afghanistan a better place than it was before the US intervened?

How is the average life span?
GDP
Average per capita?
Death rate country wide?
Literacy rate?
Internationally trade?

Because of all the money that has flooded in there has been a lot of improvements. And how the US does war, casualties have been minimal.

If the Afghan mineral wealth can be unlocked by anyone it would help the country a lot.

Currently Afghanistan runs a huge deficit in trade.

An exciting development is the railway to a port in Iran being cofunded by India and India.

Until the Taliban support by Pakistan is solved, I don’t see an endgame,

Trump is not happy being in Afghanistan and wants an endgame. Endless whack a mole is not his style.; 10/16/17, 7:42 AM
Jaq said...: One of the big reasons people become Democrats is guilt over something that they have no intention of giving up, like billions of dollars, for example. That's become increasingly clear.; 10/16/17, 7:43 AM
Ralph L said...: I like it when the backup comes in and outshines the starter, but Rodgers is a tough act to follow.; 10/16/17, 7:46 AM
Jaq said...: Drew Bledsoe was upper echelon of QBs when Brady stepped in, but Aaron Rodgers is one of the best ever, I agree.; 10/16/17, 7:50 AM
Jaq said...: Belichik said in an interview that they were discussing starting Brady at the start of that season because of the huge improvements he had made.; 10/16/17, 7:53 AM
Original Mike said...: Blogger tim in vermont said..."The backup knows the plays and the system, unless he stinks, you have to go with him for now. If he can't win, the conversation starts again."

Yep.; 10/16/17, 8:07 AM
Jaq said...: I think that after having Rodgers waiting in the wings to step in after Hall of Famer Bret Favre retired, the Packers may be overdrawn at the QB karma bank.; 10/16/17, 8:27 AM
rhhardin said...: Megan Mcardle on public shaming at econtalk

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2017/10/megan_mcardle_o.html; 10/16/17, 8:27 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: Thanks to the kind folks who opined on my where-to-live-how-about-MSP post a couple cafes back; I appreciate your valuable advice. Several mentioned the Minnesota [n]ice thing and advised us to be prepared for that; I know it will take a good five years to make real friends there ~ that's a drawback, but Texas can be pretty cliquey too, tbh. And the thing about living somewhere sucky (as I currently do) is that maybe you make friends with interesting, non-sucky, non-complacent people, but they GTHO as soon as they can rectify the mistake of having moved here in the first place. MSP seems like the kind of place that people [who can handle the cold] like living, and tend to stay long-term. We would like to cultivate long-lived friendships and put down roots for ourselves and our children.

And as for taxes, it will definitely be a bummer to go to a state income tax...we already pay comparable property and sales taxes, so that will be a new one to add to the bottom line. As much as I hate to admit it, having lived in and travelled to a wide variety of places that vary in their taxation, I've come to the conclusion that as far as quality of life goes you tend to get what you pay for. There are lots of nicer places in low-tax high-freedom low-services Texas, sure, but they are few and far between and mostly it's crumbling roads, sky-high drunk driving, litter, teen pregnancy and general trashy behavior and malaise. The 'nice' places are usually brand new communities that were prairie 9 minutes ago until they came out of the box with ready to assemble freeways, frontage roads, strip malls, and chain stores with people who also arrived 9 minutes ago. Not much of a sense of history and community.

Several folks also suggested various locales in Washington state ~ we are originally from WA and would love to go back, but I cannot handle the Amageddon that has erased our beloved Seattle (fellow Husky fistbump from Mr. Pants to mockturtle, btw ~ he's UW '92) and we simply cannot afford to live anywhere that we would like to. It breaks my heart, because having been born and raised there it is home and my giant family almost all still lives there and like an idiot in 2010 I sold the house I'd owned since 2002 and if I still had it now we might be able to get into a house that meets our needs (we are expecting our sixth child) but here we are. I've just accepted that I will not be able to raise my children where I was raised.

Birches ~ we talked about SLC as well because we like the mountains and affordable-ish 6 bedroom houses, but hubby lived in Arizona for years and it was hard enough for him there to make friends, being churchy but non-Mormon, and I know we and worse our kids would always be outsiders. Plus I love to bake too much to live at four thousand feet :)

Thus ends my novel. Have a great Monday, Althousians.; 10/16/17, 8:42 AM
Fritz said...: How dare they celebrate a tractor run by fossil fuels.; 10/16/17, 8:42 AM
Fernandinande said...: Proof that witchcraft works: The guy who threatened to shoot my dogs has cancer.; 10/16/17, 8:46 AM
Jaq said...: Rh, you know that I like your stuff, but you have a couple blind spots here and there. Blade Runner has a plot, for instance, Ford's character gets deeper and deeper into the world that created the time limited genetically engineered super humans, he is won over by them and even falls in love with one, since you, ironically, seem to require a love interest.; 10/16/17, 8:47 AM
Jaq said...: New Hampshire is low tax, high quality of life.; 10/16/17, 8:50 AM
Ray - SoCal said...: Boise may be close enough to Wa to easily visit relatives.

Per my uncle in Renton, lots of Wa people moving there for sanity.; 10/16/17, 8:57 AM
rhhardin said...: The trouble with Blade Runner, the last time, was the point at which he fell in love with the robot; the estimated plot from there was going to be too banal to bear.

Falling in love with an actual person that you don't like is the interesting case. The discovery that opposites fit. It has a moral to it.; 10/16/17, 8:58 AM
Ray - SoCal said...: Restaurant had to shut down due to a pro Trump post.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/cup-it-up-restaurant-closed-indefinitely-after-political-fb-post-backfires; 10/16/17, 9:00 AM
rhhardin said...: Mcardle is going on too long, I have to admit. Too high an estimation of herself does not play well. That's a guys' rule she perhaps doesn't know in her guys' job.; 10/16/17, 9:01 AM
rhhardin said...: It would be nice to get Harvey Weinstein declared a registered sex offender somewhere, so that his enormous mansion has a mark on maps among other enormous mansions.; 10/16/17, 9:04 AM
Jaq said...: "Falling in love with an actual person that you don't like is the interesting case. The discovery that opposites fit. It has a moral to it."

The love at the end was symbolic of the fact that he had been won over, by the leader, who died. At the beginning of the movie, he would have killed her for being on the planet, like he did; 10/16/17, 9:09 AM
Jaq said...: Hannah's character.; 10/16/17, 9:09 AM
Jaq said...: Regardless, it is a plot.; 10/16/17, 9:10 AM
Quayle said...: Miss-placed your pants,

I believe that Salt Lake City within the city limits proper is actually majority not Mormon now.

Also depending on your income level there's Park city and deer Valley area which is very much western Rocky Mountain outdoors city-like.

As a Mormon who grew up in the New York metro area I can tell you I understand some of the cultural issues in Utah. But one person I talk to who was moved to Utah by American Express, said that they didn't like the culture generally but they have the best neighbors they have ever had individually.

If you're kind of a do your own thing or sort of live and let live person, I think you'd be fine in Utah but if you ar bothered by people thinking differently, or odd cultural dynamics bother you, then buyer beware; 10/16/17, 9:14 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: As a Mormon who grew up in the New York metro area I can tell you I understand some of the cultural issues in Utah. But one person I talk to who was moved to Utah by American Express, said that they didn't like the culture generally but they have the best neighbors they have ever had individually.

Funny ~ I was just telling my kids a day or two ago about Mormons (they haven't met any), about how I don't share their unique beliefs but that I grew up in a town with lots of them and they really are delightful people, the best neighbors you can ask for and comprise a fair contingent of my lifelong friends.

If you're kind of a do your own thing or sort of live and let live person, I think you'd be fine in Utah but if you ar bothered by people thinking differently, or odd cultural dynamics bother you, then buyer beware

We're definitely a we-do-us, high tolerance for freethinking and unique life approaches, kind of family. My experience with communities past a certain tipping point of Mormons though is that they aren't really into befriending others who think differently or have their own odd cultural dynamics. I'm fine with not everyone wanting to be my BFF but I don't want to be shut out of everything because we're not LDS. The key (like so many things in life) is probably just to find the right balance.

Thanks for the insight~we'll give it another look. We really do love the mountains, and communities made up of people who are clean-living, literate and responsible.; 10/16/17, 9:32 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: Also, this just occurred to me, we don't drink, and it is VERY hard to find friends in Texas who want to do things together that don't revolve around alcohol. So maybe Utah would be a friendlier place in that regard.; 10/16/17, 9:34 AM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Pantsy, I was chagrined at your pizza letdown, but what else happened while evaluating New York? I think you could be very happy here. If not NYC itself, there's Long Island, Westchester, Rockland County...; 10/16/17, 9:39 AM
Ralph L said...: Wouldn't the Gentiles stick together?; 10/16/17, 9:42 AM
Ralph L said...: Does Lileks still live in MSP?; 10/16/17, 9:44 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: BL~mostly cost and distance. I love Westchester and we got pretty far down the pike, visiting it twice on scouting trips and narrowing our preference to the Mt. Kisco/Katonah/Pound Ridge triangle, but sadly ultimately concluded that houses are very expensive, taxes are very high and it's a hike to get into the city or to Newark. Mr. Pants flies weekly for work so airport access is an issue for us (he hates La Guardia and JFK and the little Westchester airport is cute but cumbersome for a frequent flier). As much as we love the idea of running into HRC in a cafe in Chappaqua, it's hard to not be swayed by a place like this in Minneapolis: beautiful home at half the price you'd pay in Westchester, with similar pretty foliage overlooking a river valley that is an easy 20 minute drive to MSP.; 10/16/17, 10:44 AM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Rockland County? Nyack and environs has a great deal of charm. Newark = straightforward from Rockland, if HPN doesn't do ya from Westchester.

But you do you. We'll miss you though, can always use some more of the good ones :-); 10/16/17, 11:06 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: The Pantses will hit up you and any missus for promised good pizza when we're in the hood :); 10/16/17, 12:08 PM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Deal!; 10/16/17, 3:59 PM

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