The FAKE & FRAUDULENT NEWS MEDIA is working hard to convince Republicans and others I should not use social media - but remember, I won....
....the 2016 election with interviews, speeches and social media. I had to beat #FakeNews, and did. We will continue to WIN!
My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!
I am thinking about changing the name #FakeNews CNN to #FraudNewsCNN!
July 1, 2017
Saturday evening Trump tweetstorm — "My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL."
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And in 5 years, it will be discontinued format Presidential.
He's making me laugh.
Damnit Meade! Would you please explain to your wife that we are STILL waiting on that rush delivery of Fainting Couches? She understands we are OUT, yes? And that she is TRIGGERING our resident liberals into violent episodes of Pearl Clutching and Righteous Posing?
They ALWAYS lock their knees. And then it's just a matter of time - meltdown and then the long fall to Fainting Couch. My back hurts moving bodies out.
Just try to get her to take it easy for awhile. At least till that truck gets here.
Goalkeepers Union !
Good to know that Trump understands.
Go around the gatekeepers.
Forget the pearl clutching old fogies.
So, he didn't go golfing this weekend.
Poor CNN. They are going into Post Trump Stress Disorder, and it is getting worse as Twittered IEDs now are going off 6 times a day ...like rockets red glare and bombs going off on the air.
I would expect CNN to offer a truce, but if they did, the Clinton/Obama forces would kill one of them as a message. It would be like the IRA leaders agreeing to a Treaty with the English in 1921 and Sadat agreeing to a Treaty with Israel. They signed their own death warrants when they signed the treaty.
So far DJT is charged with using Twitter and watching Big Screen TV. More special Prosecutors will have to be appointed.
Here's what I don't get.
If you turn on these news channels, you get almost non stop criticism and vitriol aimed at this president.
Unlike the last 8 years where you got praise and adoration for the past 8 years with a pinch of criticism every so often to continue pretending to be real news.
And now the part I don't get.
Which of those two scenarios would you see under a tyrant and dictator like Hitler?
Would you see a news media free to criticize and blast the President as all sorts of evil, or would you see a media that's always complimentary and sucking up?
The whole concept of "Presidential" is now BS and has been for 20 years.
You can't demand a President be "dignified" and "above it all" while Congressman and TV newsmen and entertainers are calling the POTUS a "Cocksucker" "Crazy" and "a traitor"
Somehow Trump is supposed to "respect the office" while no one else does.
Mr. Hillary Clinton was getting lewinskies in Oval Office, when did the MSM get upset about that? When was Obama ever "Presidential"?
Bush-II was called Chimpy McHitler and he was "above it all". So where did that get him or us?
I surprised Althouse isn't pulling out her "Civility Bullshit" tag.
The man has 32 Million followers. Of course, he's not gonna stop tweeting. Why should he?
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Trump is like the medieval jesters who went around slapping people on the head with an inflated pig bladder on a stick. It amused the king to see that. Well Trump is doing the same thing only in a modern fashion. He whomps
CNN up alongside the head. Takes two minutes. They meltdown for the rest of the day, and Donald is then free to get on with the people's business.
They are not even aware that Trump is bringing in re-enforcements.
It's gonna get ugly.
Donald Trump could shoot CNN in the head in the middle of Times Square and use the NYT to beat it to death, then rip off both their heads and crap in their windpipes just to make sure. And he would still have to pay $5 for a cup of coffee when he went to the shop across the street from where he did it.
I got your civility right here.
I find absurd it to go on-line and see some "Story" from the New York Times or Wapo. Headline: "Trump says X".
Then you read the 500 word article, loaded with all kinds of anti-trump "analysis" and find out its all based on a Trump Tweet.
Now, I've been able to read between the lines and figure out that these articles are based on a Trump tweet. So, I ignore the article and read the tweet. No gatekeepers - thank you very much.
And he would still have to pay $5 for a cup of coffee when he went to the shop across the street from where he did it.
Nonsense, Darrell. He would go to a pushcart for his coffee and pay $0.75. Better coffee than Fourbucks, too.
The Mouse That Roared.
Please God stop Donald Trump and the media from hate-fucking in the streets.
eric said:
Which of those two scenarios would you see under a tyrant and dictator like Hitler?
Would you see a news media free to criticize and blast the President as all sorts of evil, or would you see a media that's always complimentary and sucking up?
Keen analysis!
How about a media not making shit up, and out to get Trump no matter what happened that day.
The Weekly World News has pulled ahead of CNN, NBC, the WaPo, and NYT in credibilpty. Nicely done!
If you don't like Donald Trump's tweets, feel free to not read Donald Trump's tweets.
Not that complicated.
To sweep all 50 states, the President would only need to do 2 things - blow CNN's brains out in the middle of Times Square and then walk across the street to Nathans and buy a hotdog. - Leo McGary, West Wing
Somehow Trump is supposed to "respect the office" while no one else does.
So beautifully said!
The same Media that was completely out of touch with the electorate last November is now grossly underestimating how much they are hated by Americans.
They think they may have annoyed us. Meanwhile, we're checking the timing of the security cam and taking a mental inventory of any rocks or sharp objects in the immediate area.
Maureen Dowd is losing it. Badly.
Boxers or briefs?
The man is having fun.
So am I.
Don't tweet so don't follow.
If his tweets upset you, don't read them or the articles about them.
Enjoy the summer.
There is a Drudge poll re Tweeting. When I looked, it was pro-Tweeting by a large margin.
They created a tweeting world, yet they condemn the president for tweeting. (Said my son a few minutes ago).
"Maureen Dowd is losing it. Badly."
The President certainly annoys all of the people left and right that I despise.
He isn't going to stop so people better learn how to deal with the Tweets.(myself included!) What we are seeing is the President unfiltered. It is sometimes a shock, but always entertaining. The interesting thing is that he is more right than wrong and he seems at this point to have the MSM "out on their feet" - goes with the glass jaw metaphor. Certainly for four years this is going to be what "Presidential" is. I suspect that by the end of the year we will all be hooked on it and some of us will even appreciate that the President wants to communicate with us.
Presidential Civility Bullshit.
An equally good theory is that Trump is just having too much fun bashing the likes of Crazy Joe and Dumb as a Rock Mika to stop. SHOULD he stop? Well, I could've done without the Mika bleeding tweet. But going after their bosses at NBC might be a brilliant stroke. What does Scott Adams say?
The major media outlets could certainly stop covering his tweets so obsessively.
"Mauren Dowd is losing it badly"
Ah, thanks for the heads up. Pass that popcorn pls?
"... to hear the lamentation of their women" - President Trump
Then he said "repeal." When it was safe again to "say" repeal. When straight, stand-alone repeal has as much chance of passing as bombing Mecca with 10 tons of smoked bacon.
Until Senator Dick Durbin (D) proves otherwise, it is fair to assume that he agitated the perp who attempted the mass assassination of 20 Republican Congressmen.
FBI should investigate. If Sen Durbin stonewalls, jail him for contempt, obstruction and even conspiracy.
This was a national tragedy. There is NO reason Sen Durbin should refuse to turn over related evidence. Unless it implicates him.
The man has 32 Million followers. Of course, he's not gonna stop tweeting. Why should he?
Pretty soon, he'll start pimping the Trump Amazon portal.
Emoluments Clause!
"as much chance of passing"
He has a pen and a phone. Issue an Executive Order that removes all penalties for refusing to purchase insurance. Order IRS to stand down on enforcement.
People are being forced to buy a product they cannot use.
The Democrats have already set the precedent by refusing to enforce Federal Immigration Law. So why not ObamaCare.
Trump says we worship God. We do not worship the government.That sums it up.
He connected to the Deplorables (a/k/a Americans) once more with feeling. He pledges his loyalty to us and asked for our loyalty back to him.
The Artist of the Deal just closed another deal.
Boxers or briefs?
Depends
Ann - aren't you bored of this, yet?
Kate said...
So, he didn't go golfing this weekend.
7/1/17, 6:35 PM
Golf courses have cell service. He can blast out a tweet between holes.
I just realized why Mika is so pissy - she's the Scorned Woman.
Trump may have small hands, but that never stopped celebrity groupie gold diggers from falling into his bed. I heard they will even let him grab them by the pussy.
Remember in Iron Man when Pepper has to "take out the trash", referring to the reporter who stayed over her shelf life? That's Mika, only older and more... used.
Do you think Joe knows? Someone should tell him.
It's a message to the never Trumpers.
The point of the tweets however is to decouple soap opera as found in the MSM news from public debate. They'll be two separate things.
MSM will be entertainment only.
Fen said...
Until Senator Dick Durbin (D) proves otherwise, it is fair to assume that he agitated the perp who attempted the mass assassination of 20 Republican Congressmen.
FBI should investigate. If Sen Durbin stonewalls, jail him for contempt, obstruction and even conspiracy.
This was a national tragedy. There is NO reason Sen Durbin should refuse to turn over related evidence. Unless it implicates him.
Straight out of the fever swamps of deepest Trumpism.
The presumption is that Sen. Dick Durbin is denying his emails and office correspondence to law enforcement. That's the way that the above-quoted post reads. And it isn't true. Durbin's office has provided all of to the U.S. Capitol Police. It's nuts to think that the FBI needs to investigate Durbin, when he has cooperated in providing the emails you're talking about.
The Chicago Tribune:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/
Durbin gave everything to law enforcement, and nothing to the public.
Like, uh, Donald Trump's tax returns.
"Aren't you bored of this yet?"
Bored of watching Trump blast RBIs all day? Nah, it's fun.
#6 A useful tactic is one that your people enjoy
I heard that somewhere. Maybe from a "Community Organizer" ?
I am not tired of winning yet.
Wait maybe my Conservative -> Liberal translator glitched. I'll double check...
Enter Term: "Marxist Scum"
Returned: "Community Organizer"
Nope. Checks out fine.
Why is he doing this Saturday night of a holiday weekend?
Chuck: we are at war with EastAsia. We have always been at war with EastAsia. The media assures me.
Sure thing.
And Comey is going to destroy Trump in tomorrow's hearing.
"Why is he doing this Saturday night of a holiday weekend?"
why not if you like upending prevailing convention.
Ralph, no idea.
Most folk I know are staying local over the holiday, 4 day weekend.
And I have no idea how that pans out for this PR attack, good or bad.
"The presumption is that Sen. Dick Durbin is denying his emails and office correspondence to law enforcement. "
Baghdad Dick Durbin was a piece of shit long before he collaborated with the attempted mass killer.
Only a democrat would give him the benefit of the doubt.
Turbin is retiring.
If only the DNC was that....forthcoming.
Why is he doing this Saturday night of a holiday weekend?
I don't know. His family is in the White House. Would think they'd be doing something 4th of July-ish. Maybe he's posting from his phone?
I don't believe we have ambassadors nominated yet for Germany, Canada or the UK. If he has extra time on his hands, maybe he could think about who he wants to appoint.
Anywhoo - we're going out to see fireworks. Happy 4th of July weekend & Happy Canada day all!
"Like uh Donald Trump's tax returns"
We already saw one year's worth on Rachel Maddow's overhyped Big Reveal. They even had a countdown clock for it. Not only was it a big nothing burgerb (again, gee what a pattern), it actually made President Trump look good.
But here is what I don't get, Chuck. You know the only reason the Leftists want Trump's tax returns is so they can perform a witch hunt and impeach your President over Something Mumble Something.
You should pick up The Last Lion vol2 by William Manchester. Great work on Churchill and WW2. For instance, did you know that even though we allied with the Soviet Union to destroy Hitler, we didn't actually help them enslave Eastern Europe.
Why is a Republican sleeping with these people and throwing rocks at his brothers and sisters?
Ralph L said...
Why is he doing this Saturday night of a holiday weekend?
He's trying to see if he can make CNN, et. al. work over the holiday. I'll be surprised if we don't see more tweets tomorrow.
If he has extra time on his hands, maybe he could think about who he wants to appoint.
They're being uber-vetted and lacquered for the poo-flinging.
Durbin's emails are public property. Trump's tax returns are not.
I suppose we can FOIA the email messages, which will take years and several court rulings. By then Durbin will be out of office, his handpicked successor firmly entrenched, and the press will call it old news.
It's basically a big f-you to the citizenry.
It really is past time for you to come in out of the rain.
Or join the other side.
It's over. I wanted Walker. He lost. I wanted Cruz. I worked for his campaign. He lost. But I got up off the ground, dusted myself off, and threw my support behind the President of the United States.
It's taking you longer, I get why. But the door is closing shut. You might want to catch it before you get locked outside.
Dear God! I love this guy.
Oh, that was for our life long republican.
Kevin said...
Durbin's emails are public property. Trump's tax returns are not.
I suppose we can FOIA the email messages, which will take years and several court rulings.
...
You can try to FOIA congressional emails, but I don't think you'll get very far because FOIA doesn't apply to congressional email.
I think both cases involve considerable public interest, and I'd like to see everything in both cases.
Just please own the hypocrisy in all of this.
No hypocrisy. I don't believe we are entitled to tax returns, Hillary's or Trump's.
Kevin said...
No hypocrisy. I don't believe we are entitled to tax returns, Hillary's or Trump's.
Are we entitled to Dick Durbin's office emails? Which are not subject to FOIA, or the Federal Records Act?
Trump 23, CNN 0
Trump 3, Maureen Dowd 0
Trump 2, NY Times 0
"Are we entitled to Dick Durbin's office emails? Which are not subject to FOIA, or the Federal Records Act?"
I suppose not in the legal sense then. I find it repulsive however when Congress exempts itself from these or any other laws.
It's the first thing I'd change.
Chuck: "FOIAs doesn't apply to congressional email"
Because Congress has exempted itself.
Tell me, if a US Senator corresponds with a hitman to knock his 29 year old intern over the head and kill her, do you think the public has a right to know?
Because I don't think venting about Republicans to an attempted mass murderer of Republicans falls under the daily business of a US Senator.
Do you?
I mean obviously, if Sen Durbin is messaging Joe Bob about how the Ethanol tax is going affect his farm, I don't think the public has a right to read Joe Bob's conversation. All sorts of muschief would follow if orgs could pierce that privacy.
But if Sen Durbin emails Joe Bob "who will rid me of these meddlesome priests?", and Joe Bob proceeds to stab those meddlesome priests... that's a different thing entirely.
via Insty
NYTs reports on shooting in downtown Arkansas.
Downtown Arkansas...
Completely out of touch. The last time people were this clueless, Custer and the 7th Cavalry were massacred to the last man.
As expected, our LLR is always prepared to spring into Democrat Defense DEFCON 1 mode.
Our LLR is even happy to offer already debunked Democrat Defense talking points (as with Stolen Valor Blumenthal) because no step is too extreme when defending Dems.
I'm not a big fan of the Democrat Party. In fact, I'm more anti-Democrat than Pro-Republican.
The Dems are lost. They are stuck in a semi-socialist, racial spoils system, funded by rich Hollywood elites or BigGovernment Unions like SEIU.
No sane small private sector businessman or businesswoman votes Democrat. They are the party of the Manhattan rich and the Harlem poor; the tenured Liberal arts Professor and the clueless 18-year freshman. That's why they continually lose elections - internal contradictions.
Good man. Never, never back down to these gobshites. What are they going to do? Pound the high chair some more?
Fen said...
It really is past time for you to come in out of the rain.
Or join the other side.
...
It's taking you longer, I get why. But the door is closing shut. You might want to catch it before you get locked outside.
7/1/17, 9:33 PM
Oh, I see, Fen. You are taking him seriously. I understand. Very classy of you.
Hillary Clinton: President Trump's tweets are... deplorable.
Stephen Hawking: Okay which jackass just divided by zero?
Obi Won: I sense a great disturbance... as if millions of Irony Meters cried out as one and were suddenly silenced.
Bad Lt: "very classy of you"
Nah, I wish. But it's more about selfishness - I want to feel like I gave him every opportunity, so I can drink from his skull without remorse.
His silence is speaking so much louder than his words - Pink Floyd
And as much as I hate the Marxist Left, we treat their wounded and give them food and water.
But traitors we fucking hang.
LOL. Trump is just too much. The most powerful man in the world is just jacking CNN around. Trump is fearless.
Trump is fearless? If joe challenged him to a fight he would hide under Melania's skirt.
Same if Mika challenged him. First round knockout.
Whatever makes you feel better Stevie.
It is all about evading the middlemen of the media. This is the reason for the ferocious opposition his tweets engender, and I still stand by my prediction- Twitter will ban him before the end of the year under pressure from the Left.
A good rule of thumb is this- always do the opposite of what your enemies say you should be doing. Sure, you might once in a while get fooled by clever reverse psychology, but when you have enemies as dumb as Trump's enemies, it is a pretty safe strategy. I think he could use the social media better, but who am I to give him advice- he actually won a vote, and I haven't.
"Twitter will ban him before the end of the year under pressure from the Left."
LoL. If they ban the President of the United States of America, I'll go too. And I think millions will follow.
Twitter and Facebook only exist because we've all decided we're going to post there. Everyone goes there, because that's where everyone goes.
But they don't do anything that other -similar sites - can't or won't do.
Earlier Trump called Mika "low IQ." This claim is believable. But "dumb as a rock" seems to be going too far. A rock would have an IQ of zero, right? It seems inconceivable that Mika has an IQ of zero.
But maybe I'm wrong about a rock's IQ. Perhaps it could be two or three. For instance, if you asked the rock an IQ question then dropped it on a paper with four choices, ABCD, the rock might land on the correct choice occasionally. If the test was conducted this way, the rock would probably score a seven or eight. Now it seems much more believeable.
Therefore, I rate Trump's claim Mostly True.
"If Mika challenged him, first round knockout"
Heh. Help me out here, I can't decide which is more pathetic:
1) That your impeachment fantasy has devolved down into childish Mortal Combat!!!! Trump VS Mika!!!!
2) or that you are such a pussy you choose a woman to fight for you.
Again, thanks Trump. You make the Left beclown themselves without even trying. Best comedy in years! Hahaha.
"Twitter will ban him before the end of the year under pressure from the Left."
LoL. If they ban the President of the United States of America, I'll go too. And I think millions will follow.
Twitter and Facebook only exist because we've all decided we're going to post there. Everyone goes there, because that's where everyone goes.
But they don't do anything that other -similar sites - can't or won't do.
This whole dynamic is going to be interesting. A lot of these tech companies are run by leftist techies. And the political philosophy of much of Silicon, Valley, etc, is tech leftist - a mixture of statism and libertarianism. The big problem though with going to war with Trump is that they are going to war with Trump supporters. And what they are ultimately going to understand is that there is more money in Trump America than in anti-Trump America. Or, maybe more accurately, there is more money to be made there. That is due to the demographics. The money on the left is very concentrated - a relatively small number of rich and very rich funding the politics, and a lot of poor people providing the votes. Trump America has the numbers with the better ability to spend money. For example, a rich tech millionaire may be able to quasi-legally spend 10x, maybe 100x, funding leftist politicians, but isn't likely to spend nearly that much more on Internet ad driven purchases. Much of the Internet is funded indirectly through buying things. All those ad supported apps, etc (from Google on down) depend on it. The dumber companies are going to let themselves be politicized by the anti-Trump left, and, ultimately a large portion of their American audience is going to vote with their feet. The smart ones are going to figure this out before it can bite them in the rear end. For a lot of these companies, their products, per se, aren't all that unique. Rather, what makes them valuable is the network effect of being the biggest in their niche. Twitter, Facebook, and even Google and Amazon, aren't unique, just big because they have the market and, thus, get the bulk of the new business. I have a Facebook account because I need it to communicate with others who do, etc. And that is what they are putting at risk by taking sides.
Another reason that these companies should think twice about crossing Trump is that the federal apparatus now reports to him. Take one example - a lot of these big tech companies, from Google, down through Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, etc, are quasi-monopolies as a result of the network effects mentioned above. The DoJ has an antitrust section, and it is essentially up to Trump and his AG to determine where they spend their time and efforts. Do these companies want the DoJ antitrust people second guessing every acquisition they make (esp in an industry that innovates through acquisition)? Or reviewing every clause that they put in their click wrap EULAs? What patent policy should the country be pursuing? The Obama Administration pursued one aimed at weakening patents and patent law, at the behest of these companies, who so often appropriate and then commercialize technology of others.
The antitrust aspect should not be underestimated. At one point in our history, both IBM and AT&T were under the antitrust investigation. One was ultimately broken up (AT&T). The other escaped essentially unscathed (IBM). One of the big differences was that there was a new Administration, and IBM managed to get its guy to head the DoJ antitrust section there, which very quickly dismissed their suit against IBM, but not AT&T. As IBM did the USPTO under Obama, in order to get the AIA first-to-file patent system enacted (followed by Google, who put their gal in next, in order to weaken patent enforcement).
Part of the problem is that a lot of these companies took political sides when Obama was in office. It seemed like a safe bet, with the guaranteed permanent Dem ruling party, thanks to their brilliant strategy of recruiting blacks, Hispanics, illegals, and Millenuals. Doors in the federal govt that they spent tens and hundreds of millions of dollars pushing open, are now going to be slammed in their faces. And esp if they can be seen as part of the "resistance".
"If Mika challenged him, first round knockout"
As I noted in an earlier thread, Dumb as a Rock Mika has already been knocked out. Dead woman walking. She just probably doesn't know it yet. She and her fiancé, Crazy Joe, didn't lay a hand on Trump, but by attaching that nickname, along with the vision of her bleeding face to her, Trump very likely guaranteed that her career was on its way down. Maybe not immediately, because of leftist sympathy support. But their support will shortly move to other Trump victims, and every time she opens her mouth henceforth, much of America will marvel how someone so dumb can be on TV. Maybe unfair - there are plenty of people on TV who probably routinely say things equally inane, but she is the one everyone is going to wonder about her IQ every time she opens her mouth.
And, yes, it wasn't very nice, nor very sporting to have done that to her. Tough. She is well paid, and took sides here, at a time when Trump is making examples of those who try to do him dirty.
Very discouraging to see the "news" media wallowing in such childishness. Will be a loooooooong time for them to earn any trust and respect.
Keep on Trumpin', Mr. Don. You doin' fine.
By virtue of being the POTUS Trump is correct that modern day presidency is what he says it is.
If that is difficult to understand, some form of prejudice may be the obstacle.
I don't like to use that word prejudice because it portents that I can see what is in people's heads.
However. It seems to me we seemed more readily accepting of Obamas election than we're of Trump.
Isn't that some kind of prejudice?
Maybe I'm wrong about that.
Or was a full throttle acceptance of Obama some kind of virtue signaling and now we're acting more like we're supposed to act in the face of the unexpected?
Maybe Trump is the natural anti Obama. And Obama was the anomalous exemption? Or is it racist to say that?
These middle of the night comments are very fever swamppish.
Trump is following an act that was never harshly criticized nor challenged. talk about an anomaly.
Fen said...
And as much as I hate the Marxist Left, we treat their wounded and give them food and water.
But traitors we fucking hang.
Are you threatening me? Is that what Althouse comments have come to? Not merely personal attacks, and now accusations of "treason," but personal death threats.
All this personal trashtalk that Althouse has implored commenters to please desist from.
And at the same time, nothing of substance. No proof of some bizarre collusion between Dick Durbin and the congressional baseball shooter. No explanation of what release of the Durbin emails would show. No identification of any legal imperative for Durbin to release them. And no good distinction drawn, between Trump's failure to release copies of his tax returns, while the Trumpkins whine about Durbin's emails.
Is Virtue signaling a politically correct way of saying fake?
Chuck, I went to your Chicago Tribune link, a general link, and did not find the Durbin report you referred to. I then searched the Trib for "Durbin" and didn't find any article reporting that he had turned over emails to police. I then googled "durbin turns over Hodgkinson emails to capital police" and did not turn up any relevant articles. Do you have a better link?
By continuing to tweet Trump is #resisting big time. It's hilarious.
"No proof of some bizarre collusion between Dick Durbin and the congressional baseball shooter."
Wait, one now needs proof to promote bizarre collusion theories?
I'm so old I remember when Steve Bannon was President.
Unlike young whippersnappers like Althouse and Meade, I can remember Jimmy Carter in 1976 proposing to "go over the heads" of the press and Congress to take his case for legislation directly to the people. He failed, and I'm tempted to add "as he did in so many other things," but the reality is that the technology wasn't there. In the 1930s radio let FDR speak directly to the people, but by 1952 people were watching TV more than they listened to the radio. So in between FDR and Trump presidents found themselves constrained to go through the big TV news outlets to talk to the people, and they could and do put their own spin on whatever the President said. Twitter today lets Trump speak directly to the people once more, and the big TV outlets don't like it one bit. Me, I'd be glad to see all of them, Fox News as well as CNN and CBS News and MSNBC, go bankrupt. Wait until Mike lots-of-consonants finds out what it's like to work for a living as a hairdresser or bedpan-emptier.
A nevertrumper tweets: "One oddly comforting fact: I really think Trump isn't power hungry. He'd act differently if he were. All he cares about is the tweeting."
It would take a day to have a Facebook clone up with a login system messaging service and news scroll for users on a couple different platforms. You can even add a few additional features on some like forums. An administrator could run a group of 100 people pretty easily. There are already some groups out there growing.
And at the same time, nothing of substance. No proof of some bizarre collusion between Dick Durbin and the congressional baseball shooter.
Without seeing them, how would you know that there's "no proof"? Have you seen them? When and how?
No explanation of what release of the Durbin emails would show.
Like art and porn, we'll know it when we see it.
No identification of any legal imperative for Durbin to release them.
Besides the fact that Hodgkinson attempted to murder Durbin's political opponents, you mean?
And no good distinction drawn, between Trump's failure to release copies of his tax returns, while the Trumpkins whine about Durbin's emails.
Here's a distinction: the sole purpose of releasing Trump's tax returns is to titillate financial illiterates. The purpose of looking at correspondence between Durbin's office and Hodgkinson is to determine whether Durbin's office deliberately encouraged Hodgkinson in his activities.
May I ask why you care so much about Dick Durbin, who is, after all, one of the most loathsome figures on Capitol HIll? Do you work for him?
As for Trump's tax returns, I hope if they ever come out it shows him making milions and paying nothing -- no better impetus for tax reform could possibly exist.
RE: More links to reports on Durbin's emails having been turned over to U.S. Capitol Police:
Belleville (IL) paper:
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article156567104.html
Another Chicago Tribune link:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-tns-bc-congressman-shot-hodgkinson-20170616-story.html
And -- I love this -- the tinfoil hat site "InfoWars" has it too. Yeah, even the crazed, conspiracist Alex Jones is on board with the simple fact that the emails were all turned over to U.S. Capitol Police. (Although InfoWars just seems to have farmed out the reporting to The Daily Caller.)
https://www.infowars.com/sen-durbins-office-wont-release-emails-with-gop-baseball-shooter/
Which brings us back to the insulting commenter "Fen" who suggested that Durbin be investigated by the FBI for obstruction of justice. For what, exactly? For not turning over his office emails to InfoWars, after providing them to law enforcement?
Big Mike said...
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May I ask why you care so much about Dick Durbin, who is, after all, one of the most loathsome figures on Capitol HIll? Do you work for him?
I don't. I have written elsewhere on this blog that Dick Durbin is one of the most effectively evil Democrats in the Senate. I recall Durbin's office being at the center of the Miguel Estrada judicial nomination battle.
I care less than nothing, for Durbin.
But what I care more about right now than Durbin (who is now just the Minority Whip) is Trump and his supporters. I am looking for ways -- the best and clearest and most purely defensible ways -- to ridicule the InfoWars/Hannity/Trump wing of politics.
And it so often happens here in these comments pages at Althouse. I put out some hard questions or some unanswerable criticism of Trump, and the responding attack on me is that I am a Democrat or a liberal or a moby or a leftwing plant. With no proof. Naturally, since there is no such proof.
And now we have just done that thing that Althouse doesn't want her commenters to do, which is to take the commenting away from issues and steer it into backwaters of personal back-and-forth name calling.
Don't blame me, Professor Althouse. I have named for you the commenters who do this repeatedly.
The liar press didn't get their liar money whores Hillary-Podesta lying money whores and boo hoo.
"I have named for you the commenters who do this repeatedly."
At first I responded to this with negativity, but then realized it sounded better in the original German.
I am Laslo.
Kevin said...
"No proof of some bizarre collusion between Dick Durbin and the congressional baseball shooter."
Wait, one now needs proof to promote bizarre collusion theories?
Are you suggesting that "Dick Durbin's emails" is a big nothingburger just like "Trump campaign collusion with Russia"?
#FAKENEWS
#FRAUDNEWS
You lump Hannity with Infowars?
Lame.
I'm imagining that Ann is working on the NYT's version of the Constitution, Annotated, this morning...
Rene Saunce said...
You lump Hannity with Infowars?
Yes. I think that makes me a fan of Ann Coulter (which I am, mostly).
Durbin collusion? Unlikely, but it wouldn't be surprising if anti-Republican threats were made, and Durbin/Durbin's staff did nothing with the information.
TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL MEMO:
I have named for you the COMMENTERS who do this repeatedly.
I have diligently compiled dossiers on them at your disposal, with dates and times and THE GOOD STUFF.
I, as always, have FOOTNOTED all reports with suggested ACTS OF RESPONSE.
I am prepared to INCREASE SURVEILLANCE if so directed, but I believe SIGNIFICANT AND CONCRETE ACTIONS are required at this point, and will expand upon this IMMEDIATELY at your Request.
Please respond through DISCRETE CHANNELS if you wish me to take greater action.
AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
I am Laslo.
Laslo @ 6:50
Heh.
Trump is all kinds of strange, but he won.
Deal.
As always, Laslo rocks!
"But what I care more about right now than Durbin (who is now just the Minority Whip) is Trump and his supporters. I am looking for ways -- the best and clearest and most purely defensible ways -- to ridicule the InfoWars/Hannity/Trump wing of politics. "
See. All republicans are in the infowars wing of the party except the Chuck wing. A democrat couldn't have said it any better.
To the extent Chuck is a republican he and the cuck wing have one goal: lose. Hence why the honest ones like Will and Kristol openly campaigned for Hillary. They are just angry Trump has done more in 6 months than any republican since Gingrich and look at what the cucks did to Newt. Discrediting actual conservatives and people on the right is how they get into the cocktail parties where democrats point at them and laugh. Once a year NRO has a cruise.
Oh and if you question Durbin you are in the infowars wing of the party. Because real lifelong republicans don't say mean things about democrats.
Chuck,
The geese fly south in winter. I say again, the geese fly south in winter. We now return to our regularly scheduled broadcast.
TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL MEMO:
PERMISSION TO SPEAK FRANKLY requested.
STATEMENTS have been made that threaten the INTEGRITY of Our System.
I have fully identified the WRECKERS and HOARDERS.
I BELIEVE WE MUST RESPOND WITH DIRECT ACTION or we will be seen as FOOLS.
WE CANNOT LET THE KULAKS BELIEVE THEY ARE SAFE FROM ACTION.
Respectfully and with ALL DEFERENCE: it is past time for the FIST and the HAMMER.
EXAMPLES NEED TO BE MADE. I, as always, have SUGGESTIONS in this regard.
Please respond through DISCRETE CHANNELS if you wish me to take greater action.
AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
I am Laslo.
TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL MEMO:
As of date of this MEMO I have heard NO RESPONSE to my previous two MEMOS.
Perhaps something is wrong with DISCRETE CHANNELS and your awaited RESPONSE has been SABOTAGED or COMPROMISED.
As bad as that is, I truly HOPE that is the case: I cannot believe YOUR LEADERSHIP would not see the VALUE in my REPORTS.
The УРОД and УБЛЮДОК that SUPPORT the ВЫРОДОК are RAMPANT.
THIS CANNOT STAND.
AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS need to be taken, IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.
I respectfully request that you REPLY and do not force me to EMPLOY OTHER OPTIONS.
AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
I am Laslo.
After a night of isolated skirmishes the Althouse front erupts with a morning artillery exchange. As expected, the deeply entrenched opposing forces remain in their original positions.
Meanwhile, Trump continues his blitzkrieg tactics.
Achilles said...
...
To the extent Chuck is a republican he and the cuck wing have one goal: lose.
Well, no. We've got record-setting numbers of Republican winners, across a big majority of the states. Republicans who, by an large, have been winning with bigger margins than Trump's one election. Republicans who, without any of Trump's insane blather, have won re-election after the Republican wave of 2010. In many cases, these are Republicans who have been winning in deep-purple states and localities, by running against, or at least a long way away from, Trump. Pre-dating any Trump phenomenon. Kasich in Ohio. Snyder in Michigan. Walker in Wisconsin. Rauner in Illinois. Toomey in Pennsylvania. Portman in Ohio.
Oh and if you question Durbin you are in the infowars wing of the party. Because real lifelong republicans don't say mean things about democrats.
Oh, bullshit. I'd love for somebody to say something mean about Dick Durbin, when it has meaning and serious backing.
Where I draw the line is with assclowns like the insulting/threatening "Fen" going off on some conspiracy theory that, literally, there may have been a conspiracy or some encouragement to violence on the part of Senator Dick Durbin to shoot Republican members of Congress.
We Republicans have important fights to wage. And the Trump wing is just too fucking stupid to be entrusted with making those arguments. Trump proves it almost every day.
Example; his Election Integrity Commission might be a lot farther ahead of the game now, if Trump would just shut up and stay out of the issue. Starting from about seven months ago.
Chuck is deeply concerned about the commenters who write in a manner which is beneath the solemn dignity of thie Althouse comment section.
Dignity, Chuck! Always dignity!
"Dignity, Chuck! Always dignity!"
I LOVE "Singin' In The Rain"!
I am Laslo.
TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL MEMO:
From your RADIO SILENCE I believe I that I have been abandoned and forced to go ROGUE.
Fortunately, I am TRAINED and FULLY PREPARED for such circumstances.
As such, I understandably cannot be held Responsible for any Inevitable COLLATERAL DAMAGE, up to, and including, YOURSELVES.
THERE WILL BE CASUALTIES: this to be expected when BATTLE with the WRECKERS and ASS-CLOWNS is FULLY ENGAGED.
CIVILIANS should TAKE NOTE and find Proper SAFE LOCATIONS away from the Battlefield.
Further, I may be REQUIRED to take harbor in CIVILIAN BEDROOMS as needed.
In such circumstances, it is understood that ALCOHOL may be REQUISITIONED as deemed necessary.
AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
I am Laslo.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
"Thankfully, Laslo has compiled a dossier and named for us the commenter whose mother has a thing for Mr. Ed. Repeatedly."
I would kindly appreciate the Horse Riff to be set aside.
That was a response as a gonzo example of the specific line-of-reasoning that was used at that time, to point out its silliness and basic meaninglessness, and I would like it to remain in that context.
Thanks.
I am Laslo.
Chuck said...
"Fen said...
And as much as I hate the Marxist Left, we treat their wounded and give them food and water.
But traitors we fucking hang.
Are you threatening me? Is that what Althouse comments have come to? Not merely personal attacks, and now accusations of "treason," but personal death threats."
You're neither important enough or interesting enough, or-at this point- mature enough to threaten.
You, however, are boring us to death with your dissembling comments.
Why do you feel compelled to burden us with your bleak outlook?
I'm sure there are other places that would be more welcoming.
A gas oven come to mind.
Laslo
Escaped elephant seen in Arkansas downtown. Repeat: Escaped elephant seen in Arkansas downtown.
Sources tell me Trump has started second Twitter account, a "rolling thunder" account which is dedicated to tweeting as happy hour begins in DC or Chicago or LA on a Friday or when selected reporters have just landed at Martha's Vineyard.
@Laslo:
URGENT: Use DISCREET CHANNELS, not DISCRETE CHANNELS! (There's your problem, the Language Nazis were interdicting your messages.)
Sources tell me that those not on Twitter only know that Trump said Mika was dumb as a rock and came to a party bleeding from a facelift and she shrilled back that it was a chin tuck, not a facelift.
"Lucien said...
@Laslo:
URGENT: Use DISCREET CHANNELS, not DISCRETE CHANNELS!"
Ha! No wonder it wasn't working!
I am Laslo.
"rhhardin said...
Try the Guardian ex editor. takes a couple of listenings. Ignore as expected the bad guy Trump and the good guy NYT example, from a leftist; he goes into correctly what's happening to the news industry.
Just take the examples as leftist inverted vision. He gets the rest right.
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/a-world-without-news"
I came to this late but it was a good listen. Not because it's true but because it is the truth about how an upscale-leftwing foreign paper sees the media landscape. And being British it eschews jargonizing.
Remember when Dick Durbin compared U.S. troops serving in Iraq to Nazis?
I remember.
I remember very fucking well.
Example; his Election Integrity Commission might be a lot farther ahead of the game now, if Trump would just shut up and stay out of the issue.
The Election Integrity Commission only exists because of Trump.
No other republican would ever have introduced it.
Ever.
And the LLR's are still trying to undermine it. Unexpectedly.
Let's just say this, before the Trump/Mike Tweetstorm passes; I can't think of two people less qualified to cry out for victim status, than Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough.
The one indelible thing that this kerfuffle has impressed on me, is how cozy they all are, with their phone calls and contacts and party gatherings and deals for exposure. It is as if Trump and MikaJoe are all in the same league, playing the same game. Maybe different teams, but nevertheless like the NFL, all the revenue is shared and they all work together even when they are trying to beat each other on the field. I can't imagine that there could be any question but that Trump is the best thing that ever happened for everyone at MSNBC. It would kill them, if Trump stopped Tweeting.
@Tommy Duncan The establishment and MSM are fighting trench warfare while Trump is fighting a war of maneuver (with tanks). Great metaphor. We know what the outcome will be.
It is important at this time in history that all LLR's take a brave stand in passionate defense against any and all criticism of any Democrats until the impeachment and removal of a duly elected republican President.
BAMN.
Blogger Quayle said...
"Chuck is deeply concerned about the commenters who write in a manner which is beneath the solemn dignity of thie Althouse comment section.
Dignity, Chuck! Always dignity!"
She let us in here so the bar was pretty low to begin with.
Besides. She don't care about no 'dignity". She wants her some 'interestin'"
A feverish and funny discussion(?) thread on Althouse. Lazlo is approaching Python territory.
Maybe Ann doesn't get the NYT print edition: Home
Please keep Rauner out of this convo. He was a Trump from a certain POV. He was a Hail Mary, damn it listen to we citizens vote just like Trump. Wasn't Snyder, too? And Walker?
Fed up votes is what they were. Just like Trump!
How did you not know this?
Drago said...
...
The Election Integrity Commission only exists because of Trump.
No other republican would ever have introduced it.
What complete nonsense. The Election Integrity Commission exists because Republicans like Kris Kobach, Hans von Spakovsky and Bradley Smith have been working on it since before Trump had any notion of entering an election.
If you want to read something sensible and credible about election law reform, read something written by one of the three of them.
And if you want to read something reckless and untrue about #VOTERFRAUD, read some of Trump's Tweets.
The smart guys are on Trump's Commission. And they will have a hard job to do, battling the left and their allies in the media. But their job is being made harder, by Trump's trashtalk.
In short, how bad must it be or feel it must be to the citizens of those blue-deep blue states to be desperate enough to vote R?
Which is what voting for Trump or against Evita was.
And I'd do it again, so much winning!
Phil 3:14 said...
"...Lazlo is approaching Python territory."
Appreciated, but I sometimes find myself aiming for Pynchon territory.
I DID say aiming, not achieving.
Delusions of Grandeur.
I am Laslo.
Seeing Red:
Again I say to you; Rauner, Walker, Snyder, Kasich, Portman, Toomey all won elections before Trump. They won without any of Trump's insane Twit-blather. They have been wining since, by margins bigger than Trump's in the places where Trump barely won, by some of the narrowest skin-of-the-teeth margins in electoral college history. And they are confident now that they need not be the slightest bit cozy with Trump. I love them all for that.
MTV should really bring back Celebrity Cage Match.
But why is the question.
Because their citizens were fed up.
The margins also have to be big enuf in Madiganistan for the vile progs not to steal. Trump just needed enuf in the right states and he got it.
What the vile progs are doing to Trump is what was done to Walker and Madigans intransigence is what is being done to the State of Illinois, which is why we don't have a budget. And we don't function.
Full Moon:
Yeah. So what? My response as you have quoted it was in resonse to your bitchy little weasely attempt to post that I had somehow "threatened" Greta van Susteren. When I did no such thing.
Since Greta went to MSNBC, and immediately changed her tune on what constitutes assault on video (she did the MSNBC thing of claiming that a heckler at a Trump rally was assaulted when she was escorted out by security and/or members of the crowd), I said very publicly that since Greta reversed herself so shamelessly, I too will shamelessly reverse myself and take it all back. I wouldn't think of doing such a thing to Greta, now that Greta and I agree on what a simple assault looks like. Now, I think I would just like to ask Greta if she has reconsidered the Michelle Fields incident after her time at MSNBC. I'd like to ask it in a public forum, with video clips of both of Greta's FNC and MSNBC appearances.
You happy now? Do you somehow want a piece of me? Is that where you guys want to take the Althouse comments?
Don't blame T because those guys were unimaginative and local.
Don't blame T cos he's engaging.
Takes 2 at minimum to tango. Ignore it as the lame stream media should do.
TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL MEMO:
Under HEAVY FIRE. The KULAKS are coming in waves, and MY SUPPLIES ARE BEING DEPLETED rapidly.
I would ask for REPLENISHMENT, but I know this to be futile: all of my memos have gone UNANSWERED.
Despite being ABANDONED, I will CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
I am not afraid of HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT with the ASS-CLOWNS.
DO THEY SOMEHOW WANT A PIECE OF ME?
I WILL GIVE THEM A PIECE OF ME, ALRIGHT.
The time has come for PIG-FUCK TACTICS.
I WILL WEAR THE SMEARED BLOOD OF THE WRECKERS WITH PRIDE.
AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
I am Laslo.
Chuck is deeply concerned about the commenters who write in a manner which is beneath the solemn dignity of this Althouse comment section.
I agree with Groucho: “I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”
Chuck,
If you voted for Trump to avoid Hil', to what goal does ridiculing Trump get you?
Blogger Jason said...
Remember when Dick Durbin compared U.S. troops serving in Iraq to Nazis?
I remember.
I remember very fucking well.
"jack booted nazis"
He's living proof of the political corruption that is Illinois.
Little marxist prick.
What complete nonsense. The Election Integrity Commission exists because Republicans like Kris Kobach, Hans von Spakovsky and Bradley Smith have been working on it since before Trump had any notion of entering an election.
Trump created the Commission.
It did not exist prior to Trump.
And any other LLR canddate, assuming he or she could get elected (they would not), would not have dared to create it.
How much of a lefty hack does someone have to be to deny that?
Probably someone who thinks Maddow is "brilliant" and defends Stolen Valor Dems.
"Are you threatening me?"
Sure Chuck. Today, after we treat the Left's wounded and give them food and water, we're going to hang us some traitors. Looking like about 3pm EST. BBQ straight after.
"Gods, you're dense" - Ingrid, Game of Thrones
Smaller words then. In every form of conflict, traitors are despised more than the enemy and treated more harshly.
I too will shamelessly reverse myself and take it all back. I wouldn't think of doing such a thing to Greta, now that Greta and I agree on what a simple assault looks like.
Is that blackmail, or extortion? Some other tort I don't know the name of?
I take it all-a back, Luigi. I wouldn't a-think of burning down your fruta store, now that you have joined-a my Protection Association. Make-a sure to keep up on-a the dues!
You happy now? Do you somehow want a piece of me? Is that where you guys want to take the Althouse comments?
Well, no, Chuck, that would require IRL contact, the opposite of the Althouse comments. Come to New York, Chuck, and I'll explain everything.
You happy now? Do you somehow want a piece of me? Is that where you guys want to
Lol
Anybody else getting a vision of Seinfelds Frank Costanza in the police station scene?
That's the kind of courage that almost leads a fellow to sign up with the military but decide not to because there wasn't a draft. Or something.
We may even give our Marxist captives some of Aunt Sally's famous POTATO SALAD. If there is any left over.
Traitors won't get any POTATO SALAD, Chuck. Because as much as we hate Marxist scum, we hate traitors more.
Would you like some POTATO SALAD, Chuck? Just tell us who your President is. Say it. Go on. Say it!
Can someone find Laslo and ask if he wants white or dark meat? And tell him we may run out of POTATO SALAD.
Whenever LLR posts I hear a little "Secret Agent Man" playing in the background.
Obama had the journolists, teachers, actors, minority "leaders", civil rights "leaders", environmentalists, abortionists, and foreign leaders running interference for him. Trump is doing without the benefit of these diverse special and peculiar interests.
Am I the only one who read the 6:00 am commenter's "Are you threatening me?" and couldn't help hearing it in the voice of Beavis and/or Butt-Head? I believe they used the phrase in more than one episode. I suspect all future comments from this particular commenter are going to be in the same voice in my head, since he consistently displays a high level of Beavisness and Buttheadity. (Will this comment suffice to get me into the next revision of the OED - twice? Maybe not twice: there's a Pinterest account called Beavisness already, though Buttheadity gets no Bing hits at all.)
Chuck: "to ridicule the InfoWars side of the party"
InfoWars? Wtf? I've never read InfoWars, you're the one who brought them up.
Look, it's very simple:
1) The attempted mass murdered corresponded multiple times with Sen Dick Durbin (D)
2) Sen Dick Durbin (D) has a history of spouting off violent rhetoric at my
3) Sen Dick Durbin (D) refuses to make those emails public
I want to know what Sen Dick Durbin (D) wrote to the assassin (D) because based on his history, I suspect Sen Dick Durbin (D) wrote something close to "who will rid me of these meddlesome priests" and is covering it up.
Why is that so hard for you to understand, Chuck?
And gee, for all your calls for civility, you seem singularly unconcerned that a Democrat Senator may have incited the shootings of Republican Congressmen you claim to support. How odd.
Jason said...
Remember when Dick Durbin compared U.S. troops serving in Iraq to Nazis?
I remember.
I remember very fucking well.
Youtube remembers too.
He is the number 2 or 3 leader in the senate for the democrat party.
It would amaze me if he did not at least indirectly cheer on the violence of the shooter.
It is no wonder that LLRs find him dreamy.
Fen, you jackass. You started this by proposing that Durbin had somehow inspired the attack, or knew about it in advance and condoned it, or encouraged it. You suggested that Durbin was withholding evidence and that the FBI should investigate him for obstruction of justice or some damned thing.
I am presuming that until I posted the information, you had no clue that Durbin had already turned over all of the materials and information to the U.S. Capitol Police.
I further presume that the reason that you did not know that, but knew only that Durbin was somehow refusing to "provide" the emails, is because of the media you consume (bottom-feeding pro-Trump outlets) and the uncritical way that you consume your chosen media.
There is nothing that is hard for me to understand. I want to tell you how much I care about what sort of information you might desire; it is exactly as much as Donald Trump cares, about how much I and about 150,000,000 other Americans want to see his tax returns.
Why don't you summarize all of the documentary evidence so far that gives any credence to any notion that Dick Durbin "incited" the Arlington shooting(s).
Keep going with this. I want to rub your nose in it.
Achilles said...
...
It is no wonder that LLRs find him dreamy.
Go fuck yourself. There is only one thing about the person of Dick Durbin that I find useful at all. It is that his story has caused Trumpland to freak out, and go completely overboard.
You want to bet $1000, that Dick Durbin never once "cheered on the violence of the shooter?"
Keep going with this. I want to rub your nose in it.
LOL
I find your defense of Dreamy Dick Durbin inspirational!
If only Durbin had included Stolen Valor comments in his CV you would have had your favorite two-fer!
It's really quite amazing, isn't it? To have found a LLR whose every single exposed instinct and recommendation provides a useful roadmap into what NOT to do to achieve power and attack the democrats.
Fantastic!
LLR: "Why don't you summarize all of the documentary evidence so far that gives any credence to any notion that Dick Durbin "incited" the Arlington shooting(s)"
Yes, a fellow who was giddy over the fake russian dossier and is head over heels in love with the fake accusation of collusion just wrote that. Without irony.
@Chuck, and what if the smoking gun buried in the Durban Emails is a message from Hodgkinson describing what he planned to do, and Durban never passed along a warning to the Capitol Police or to Durbin's GOP colleagues? What then? You're trying to build a straw man and it isn't anything like big enough to hide you.
Chuck: "You started this by presuming Durbin blah blah- "
I started it because Durbin refused to make public his conversations with a democrat constituent who attempted the mass assassination of 20 Republican Congressmen.
We know the shooter's motive was to change the balance of power on Congress so the Democrats could impeach Trump. He (wrongly) thought his party could pick up enough seats through special elections.
Did the assassin and Sen Dick Durbin discuss this in their emails? No? Okay then voluntarily release those conversations to the public. This was a national tradegy. What is Durbin hiding?
I think it's because Sen Durbin (D) ran his mouth and used some violent rhetoric that is going to be viewed very poorly in hindsight.
What are you afraid of, Chuck? It's not like you are a Democrat who's fake civility narrative is going to be ruined when we discover Sen Durbin (D) asked "will no one rid me of these meddlesome priestz?"
Right, Chuck?
Chuck: "why don't you summarize all the documentary evidence that implicates Sen Durbin agitated or incited the shooter via their email correspondence"
I will, as soon as I read those emails.
.... can you not see how dumb your defense is?
I am not afraid of anything. I am not presuming anything.
You, Fen, made the outlandish and evidence-free presumption that Durbin had something to hide. Actually, it was worse than that, you presumed that Durbin was hiding evidence, even from law enforcement. Now, you must realize you were wrong about that but you won't even confess that much.
I'd personally like to see the Durbin emails. My presupposition is that Durbin probably never saw, and never replied to, any of them. That staffers deal exclusively with nutty constituent emails. But no matter what, I'd like to see them.
Like I'd like to see Trump's tax returns.
The difference between you and me is that I'd never be so reckless and shit-stupid to make the sorts of allegations that you have made on this page.
"150 million people want to see Trump's tax returns"
LOL. I doubt you could find 1 million people who want to see Trump's tax returns. But let's revist your priorities:
1. Witch hunt of Trump's tax returns - ELEVENTY TO INFINITY!
2. Attemped mass murder of Republican Congressmen - no biggie
Chuck: "evidence free presumption that Durbin has something to hide"
It's a reasonable assumption. Based on the fact that Sen Durbin (D) has refused to release what should be innocuous correspondence to the public.
And gosh, for a life-long Republican, you sure seem invested in spinning excuses for a Democrat Senator who refers to our troops as "nazi".
Again, how odd.
It smells like a jackass, it brays like a jackass, it attacks with the other jackasses, it goes to the mat defending other jackasses over the bodies of shot elephants. But it says it's really an elephant.
So. Weird. I can't put my finger on it but something just feels... off about him. I wonder what it could be?
Chuck: "Fuck off. Jackass. I'm going to rub your nose in it"
Don't forget to include those delightful bits in your daily email whine to Althouse.
And try not to be so god damn BORING. Geez. Insult all you want but at least he creative and entertaining.
Fen, some polling found that 64% of Republicans wanted Trump to release his returns. Every poll has found large majorities across party lines wanting Trump to release his taxes.
What has he got to hide? Why not release them? Isn't it reasonable to presume that Trump is hiding something? Why shouldn't we know, if Trump has taken foreign loans? What if he owes very large loans? What if he has other financial conflicts? How do we know any of that, if Trump won't release them?
It shouldn't be any defense to Durbin, that people might misinterpret his emails, right? It shouldn't be any defense to Trump's releasing his tax returns that people might misinterpret them or use them to pick on Trump.
I am not trying to defend Durbin. How many times do I have to say that I'd like to see Durbin's emails. If they could be FOIA'ed, I'd expect that somebody would do it, and I'd like to see them published.
So I am not defending Durbin or supporting him. I AM USING DURBIN, TO COUNTERATTACK YOU. You brought up Durbin as a subject. You jumped the shark. You presumed that Durbin was hiding evidence from authorities. Wrong! I just like to exploit opportunities like this to portray Trump supporters as the shit-for-brains morons that they are.
So, tax returns that the IRS has every reason to inspect carefully and yet Trump is not facing IRS sanction. And that is a big deal somehow?
But a dead assassin's E-mails should remain private on the word of a politician?
I'm not following that thread. I understand the prurient interest in seeing a rich man's tax returns. I also understand slowing to observe an accident.
Birkel:
Trump's tax returns are, by Trump's own account, being audited by the IRS. And he won't voluntarily make them public. No one can legally force Trump to make them public. They aren't subject to FOIA or the Federal Records Act.
Durbin's office emails are, by Durbin's own account, being inspected by the U.S. Capitol Police (and perhaps others, like the FBI, or ATF; they were turned over to the Capitol Police and possibly shared, I don't know). No one can legally force Durbin to make them public. They aren't subject to FOIA. They aren't subject to FOIA or the Federal Records Act.
See why this comparison is so obvious, and so unavoidable?
Spoken like a True Real Estate Mogul. (Creative Floor Plan comes to mind, as well.)
Jeeze, Chuck. The emails are only non-FOIA-able because Congress, in its manifest corruption, has exempted itself from the law. If Durbin isn't concerned about how bad the correspondence with his whack-job constituent will make him look, he can release the emails to the public any time. As for Trump's taxes, I couldn't care less about them. He's under no obligation to help you never-Trumpers and Democrats (but I repeat myself) with your little fishing expeditions.
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