The broken promise is: "Impose a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service."
On Jan. 28, Trump signed an order that he said would impose a five-year ban on lobbying after government service by executive-branch officials. This appeared broader than the language in the contract, which said it would apply to White House officials, but it actually fails to fulfill his repeated pledge to "drain the swamp." There is no reference in an executive order to a ban on congressional officials. The five-year ban applies only to lobbying one’s former agency — not becoming a lobbyist. Moreover, Trump actually weakened some of the language from similar bans under Obama and George W. Bush, and reduced the level of transparency. Given that this action in many ways is a step backward, we will label this as a promise broken.
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And what would the howling sound like if Trump took an unconstitutional action against legislative branch employees?
I can add the Trump Promise Tracker to my list of bullshit propaganda outlets.
How would the President have any control over CONGRESSIONAL officials lobbying CONGRESS? He thought it could be done, but I see no legal way he has that level of control.
And why would a lobbying group want to hire a government official to lobby a group that they know very little about?
As far as less transparent than Obama --- I'd like to see how.
The WAPO is doing everything it can to make it's value 0.
Such BS Promise tracker. They complain when he does fulfill his promises and then carp when they said he did not
Anybody remember, right after the election, how we were told that Obama had to tell Trump how to do almost everything as President?
Obama must be a hell of a teacher.
Spare us.
The only promise I want to see kept is that he makes the NYT/WaPo editorial board feel the despair the rest of us have been feeling for 8 years.
Such BS Promise tracker. They complain when he does fulfill his promises and then carp when they said he did not
It should also be noted that he hasn't been in the WH for two weeks yet. They gave Obama far more time.
Wapo forgot a broken promise:
“I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th of 2017, safety will be restored.”
"my list of bullshit propaganda outlets."
BPO's for short.
Yes, don't read anything that tracks if DJT keeps the promises that you expected him to keep when you voted for him.
Evil WaPo and their evil promise tracking.
Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Wapo forgot a broken promise:
“I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th of 2017, safety will be restored.”
Poorly stated but he has already taken steps to reverse the Obama sponsored crime wave. All he had to do to start was to get the DOJ off cops backs.
It will take longer than he wanted to clean up the mess Obama made.
It is not going to be done by just one president.
Somehow I don't think that the WaPo "fact checkers" aka Democrat fabulists with a byline, give a rat's patoot about whether Trump keeps or breaks his promises. That issue is irrelevant to their main mission which is to jump up and down screaming and shouting Hillary Good Donald Bad!
You keep that sorry song up long enough, the WapPo's credibility will be lower than whale feces on the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Yes, don't read anything that tracks if DJT keeps the promises that you expected him to keep when you voted for him.
Evil WaPo and their evil promise tracking.
Just because you are particularly dumb I will spell out what is obvious to the rest of us. We will hold Trump to his promises because we actually want him to keep those promises. So far he is performing better than hoped for. We will also call the WAPO out for biased garbage you idiots all consider reporting.
Obama only broke one promise: the one to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Lyin' liar is shooting blanks on that one.
230 Protesters charged with felony rioting by US attorneys under direction from Trump.
Looks like he's stopping the violence the way it's supposed to be stopped.
Malibu's still there.
Lyin'
If you like your promise tracker, you can keep it.
It will take a full eight years to judge Trump and his promise keeping. He didn't break a promise he fulfilled half of it as quickly as he could. It will take Presidential and Congressional leadership to extend the five year ban to the Congress. But you knew that.
At least you've choosen your moniker correctly. I'll be sure and add you to my list of BPOs. Thanks Bob Boyd.
One wonders why the Post cares. I'll hazard the guess that they want to disillusion the dozen of so Trump supporters who read the paper. I am not among them, I only scan the Post headlines for laughs.
"We will hold Trump to his promises because we actually want him to keep those promises."
Tell that to the folks in this thread who are making excuses for DJT's broken promise, and lashing out at WaPo for tracking DJT's actions re promises.
And yet, I'm the dummy.
Got it.
WaPo's opinion appears to be that the food is terrible and the portions are too small.
Mike,
reread the DJT quote that I posted.
You'll notice that your comment is unsatisfactory re fulfilling DJT's convention speech promise.
When the JUDGES want to rate DJT as a failure, I say think about Ty Cobb's batting average.
He may miss a ball here and there, but he still does the things they say can't be done, beautifully.
My take is that Trump is being scrupulous about staying within the letter and spirit of the law. This is very novel to the Post after eight years of Obama's government by EO fiat. Hopefully they'll adjust in time.
BTW, I'm help y'all.
W/o me many (most? all?) of you wouldn't realize that Althouse posted the text re the broken promise because Meadehouse wanted to have a good laugh as y'all dealt w/ cog dis by selling out any supposed core principles as you explained away this broken promise re letting powerful interests gorge on the gov tit.
"If you like your doctor . . . "
You're welcome.
Trump also promised to indict Crooked Hillary Clinton, and he broke that promise even before he won the election. Why didn't WaPo list that one?
"If you like your doctor . . . "
It wasn't publicized but the WaPo to their credit did issue a promise tracker on Obama here but it is shady. For example on his promise to make electricity generation 10% renewable by 2012 they rate it a compromise. But it was a stupid promise he couldn't keep. Forget about the 25% goal for 2025.
And the liars over at Politifact tracked 533!
I must have missed their President Obama promise tracker.
How's that Guantanamo Bay closure going?
How about those sea levels?
And yet better than Obama right out of the gate.
This can go one of two directions. They can destroy him. Or they can make him more powerful that they can imagine right now.
There's always the middle ground, but I don't think middle ground is a very likely result in this struggle.
I actually have no problem holding politicians accountable. I'd just suggest that, what, two weeks in is a bit premature.
Trumpites don't like having a ripple in their force. 'Let's just ignore all the fact checking, it's just fake news from the enemy'.
What a bunch of whiners. this was written about as far as he could go without requiring legislation.
'Its tanatamount to betrayal of our dear leader. Close your eyes and plug your ears and sing, lalalalalalala'.
David, I think you have it about right and I like how it's looking.
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'Its tanatamount to betrayal of our dear leader. Close your eyes and plug your ears and sing, lalalalalalala'.
Good one! Very original.
Meanwhile, Trumpites get a Supreme court judge or two, or three. Ha!Ha!
"Trumpites don't like having a ripple in their force. 'Let's just ignore all the fact checking, it's just fake news from the enemy'."
It is that, fake news.
And its a very recent, American thing, this sort of hysterical monkey-poo flinging attack.
Its not typical of historical coverage of US politics and its tone is not typical of mainstream European papers either, and those are all ideologically aligned. This piece here wouldn't be tabloid material, and I doubt even the far-left-or-right pamphlets would be using quite this tone, or rather, they would be going all conspiratorial - "just you wait, he will soon betray us into the hands of finance capital", etc. At least that sort of thing didn't usually depart from possibilities, if not probabilities.
Given that this action in many ways is a step backward, we will label this as a promise broken.
Trump speak with forked tongue.
Whose ignoring it Sandy? I think it's silly to issue report cards before Obama has even stopped talking. We disagree, but you lefties always have to start reading people's minds instead of addressing the facts. There's so much good news coming out of DC nowadays it is hard to waste time sniping at small differences. It would have been nice if any leftists had any principals during Obama's two terms and applied such rigorous analysis to his actions, but that isn't the universe we live in.
Things that have been missing for eight years will suddenly reappear:
Homelessness
Casualty counts from ongoing war
Grand traditions of the Senate
Curiosity on the part of reporters
Interest in nominees' pasts
Articles about the President's associates and religious advisers
Accountability
The real unemployment rate / underemployment
Carbon footprints for executive branch
Things that were cool the last eight years but will be nonexistent now:
"Funemployment"
Deference to the executive branch
Basketball brackets
Fashion spreads featuring president's family
Calling temporary teachers a "constitutional law professor"
Selective reporting of approval ratings*
*Did you know Obama is one of the lowest rated presidents of the last 50 years? Lower than both Bush men and Nixon.
Not be be a spoil sport, given WaPo's recent problems with fake news the fact that anyone would take their fact checking seriously is amusing. I would like a list of such people. Someone is going go swindle them out of their money and I'd like to place myself in a position to profit from it, given the inevitability of such. Oh, I won't be doing the swindling and I'll even try to warn them when the time comes, but if they are going to lose their hard earned cash because hey are dumb I might as well get a percentage cleaning up the mess.
Matthew Sablan wrote:
"I actually have no problem holding politicians accountable. I'd just suggest that, what, two weeks in is a bit premature."
Well, these were also the same people who were writing the week after the election how the Trump transition team was so far behind schedule the country was in real danger of not having cabinet positions fill until 2020.
The Washington Post is still grieving the exposure of Water Closet by Deep Plunger, which exposed rampant [class] diversity at the DNC and JournoListic conspiracy. Or was that information released during the Nigerian Phishing expedition?
That said, multiple, independent sources. Pull up your Donkey, Washington Post.
He should be done in 144 days based on my statistical analysis. That's a pretty good clip. If he does all those other things, the swamp will be drained from natural causes, not executive order.
Where was the WaPo promise tracker on Ocean Levels under Obama?
Just curious.
I see the WaPo uses the "jobs created or saved" bullshit in their assessment of Obama.
Mike said...
Did you know Obama is one of the lowest rated presidents of the last 50 years? Lower than both Bush men and Nixon.
And yet his eight year average beats Trump in his honeymoon period.
"in his honeymoon period."
Ha. Trump was guaranteed to have zero honeymoon period.
"given WaPo's recent problems with fake news the fact that anyone would take their fact checking seriously is amusing."
Its not a problem with money or anything. And credibility as such is not an issue either. This is a propaganda organ straight up, everything they publish has been approved as part of a messaging plan and is meant to play a part for a purpose.
They mean for SOME people to take this piece seriously, or perhaps more likely for it to feed into some other organs message of the day, citing the WaPo.
Cool -- where's the link to WaPo's Obama Promise Tracker article after his first week?
It’s day 12 ... 5 promises and broken one = 6 promises in 12 days.
"With 1,449 days left in his term" he needs to come up with 677.5 more promises.
Mike said:
*Did you know Obama is one of the lowest rated presidents of the last 50 years? Lower than both Bush men and Nixon.
Not quite right. He beat Carter and Ford, which seems like an unfair comparison. Those two didn't get reelected. Another four years and they probably could have brought their standing up.
""With 1,449 days left in his term" he needs to come up with 677.5 more promises." Yeah, he's gonna run out of promises pretty soon. He'll still have personnel issues and some international stuff to deal with. He can go check on that beautiful wall. But I'm afraid he's gonna get bored. He'll start looking for things to do, things he didn't promise. Thats when it gets really interesting.
You people and the ocean thing are only making your self look dumb, not BHO.
I'm not going to bring the BHO quote to you because I think it's funny that y'all don't know the quote, since you're sure that you do. I don't want to end that funniness.
BTW, I also would bet that most of you think BHO said "guns and religion."
And, y'all probably think BHO claimed that we are a country of 57 States. Not that his saying there are 60 states is correct, but your being wrong about the specifics of his being wrong still means you're wrong, which should be avoided when pointing out someone else's errors, imho.
Carry on.
If he can get one, it would be term limits. DC is a "swamp"...drain it.
Maybe I missed the Obama promise tracker ....
Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
being wrong about the specifics of his being wrong still means you're wrong, which should be avoided when pointing out someone else's errors, imho.
Your're new here, apparently. Trust me, this isn't perceived to be a problem around here.
Michael K is my favorite, not only does he spout nonsense but it is the same nonsense that he has spouted multiple times before. I could write some of his posts from memory, due solely to repeated exposure. Next time he leaves Althouse forever maybe I'll pick up the role.
Obama sees dead people. They don't know they're dead. Or maybe they do - they're in purgatory and their punishment includes listening to Obama's speeches.
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.” — Barack Obama
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.” — Barack Obama
Why is that wrong, weren't these the corpse-men he referenced in a different speech?
Carry on.
1/31/17, 5:21 PM
Hey shiloh we missed you! And your judgment and predictive abilities!
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