And alan markus said:
I will be watching the discussion here - much more interesting than what any talking heads on TV will have to say.And I said:
Hey, good point! I should have provided that option: I will be hanging out on Althouse and seeing whatever is visible from this vantage point.The option wasn't available on the poll, but it's available right now. Hang out here and watch with me. I know we can't all get what we want, but if what you want is company and conversation, you can get that here. My vote is secret, and I'm sympathetic to everyone's feelings.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1169 of 1169The majority of people have a favorable opinion of Obama. A good part of this is about the last 25 years of manufacturing job losses and endless wars and Wall Street. Add to this the utter condescension and at times contempt of our media and universities to non-minorities without college degrees.
Not only that, think about all the suckers who gave her over a billion dollars & now have absolutely jack-shit to show for it!
I have to think about it, but that might be the best part. I often have more scorn for the people who get conned than the grifters who con them.
Trump's here??
You can't stand at a lectern in the middle of the Schottenstein Center in Columbus, Ohio and tell the audience you're going to put a lot of coal companies (and miners) out of business and expect to win Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Pennsylvania.
Imagine a 55-year-old coal miner hearing that. He's got to put food on the table for at least 10-12 more years. It's all he's known and all he's done. He's worked his ass off for 30 years. He's going to suddenly learn how to do something else that will pay as much for his expertise?
How the hell does he pull a lever for that person?
This woman was more tone-deaf than anyone who ever ran for the position in my lifetime. Just an absolutely incompetent, negligent job as a politician. Coal miners weren't the only ones she "insulted" (since Trump haters love that word so much). She also gloated over her primary success and when asked about reaching out to her opponent's voters, refused - instead reminding Rachel Maddow that SHE WON MORE VOTES!!! Let's celebrate and who cares about those votes for my opponent that I'lll need.
It was outright reckless.
"How the hell does he pull a lever for that person?"
I'm sure being called a deplorable/racist/uneducated, hillbilly, alt-right Klansman helped too.
CNN is still talking and not calling any more states.
I guess they've just accepted Van Jones saying that Trump has won.
I think guys might be getting laid at Trump headquarters when this is all over.
Just got back to my hotel room from a Sydney pub. In the pub, I had several conversations with older patrons who were buoyed by the result. Younger patrons were talking amongst themselves and looked crestfallen.
Back at the hotel, the TV pundits are panicked. One thing they're focused on are trade deals. "Donald Trump will tear up TPP on day one". Didn't Clinton say she'd do the same thing?
I knew this was coming, in a way, because it was obvious to me that millennials were not going to vote for Hillary.
Didn't Clinton say she'd do the same thing?
Everybody knew she was lying.
Just be careful what you wish for re: treatment of Muslims in America. IIRC, France's Sarkozy went pretty far on the offensive against Algerian hoodlums in Paris suburbs, and all that seems to have resulted was even greater, and more catastrophic terrorism.
Trump coming on soon.
Why not?
Maybe the Democrats shouldn't have sold their soul to defend the rapist and his enabling wife. Naah!
I'm really interested in hearing what Trump has to say.
Just be careful what you wish for re: treatment of Muslims in America.
He was talking about refugees from terror states. Even Hillary admitted that it was a problem, at least in private.
R&B: We don't have Muslim ghetto's like France.
Podesta--Hold on! We're printing the votes we need to win. We're very confident.
Election results:
As a result of supporting Hillary Clinton:
Democrats routed on every level - President, Senate, House, Governors
Media exposed as partisan. Network TV in decline. NFL losing audience share.
DOJ exposed as corrupt. FBI corrupted during the process. Obama exposed: he sent e-mails to Hillary's unsecured server and told illegals to vote.
Hillary crawls away somewhere. Hollywood and its celebrities grossly insulted 51% of their potential audience and promised to leave America (Please do).
In case the pundits are at a loss for words, here's a suggestion: General Braddock's last words which were: "Who would have thought?"
And at Yorktown they played "The World Turned Upside Down" as the British surrendered.
The MSM I give no quarter.
But I can honestly say that I have sympathy for only one person tonight.
HRC. She was honestly so stupid as to think that she was running a winning campaign - despite how empty it was.
She admitted in debates that she wasn't a "natural politician".
If I weren't a "natural professional athlete" I kind of think I'd get my ass off the field before I got creamed, also.
I pray that Hillary gains from this the opportunity for some crucial insight and personal reflection.
Something she's probably never done in her life.
CNN finally gives in on Wisconsin.
Clinton skipping Wisconsin looks so stupid.
CNN finally gives in on Wisconsin.
LOL
CNN finally calls Wisconsin. 257 Hillary hasn't moved from 215 since California.
Hillary never came to Wisconsin? I think voter ID had something to do with that result. Fraud carried Wisconsin for Gore in 2000.
There are no votes in PA left for Hillary. They just can't do it.
CNN is holding out on PA and Michigan.
I pray that Hillary gains from this the opportunity for some crucial insight and personal reflection.
Who cares? Let her spend her millions drunk. She is done.
WaPo officially gives it to Trump.
They keep talking about the "White working class." No mention of the "Black working class." Or at least blacks who don't want to have their wages bid down by illegals.
HuffPo Calls Race for Trump
@R&B,
I pray that Hillary gains from this the opportunity for some crucial insight and personal reflection.
Something she's probably never done in her life.
I doubt it will happen. I told the Republican poll volunteer today after voting that I thought Trump was a narcissist & Hillary was a sociopath. Sociopaths never learn from defeats like this. To her dying day, HRC will think she was taken down by "a vast right-wing conspiracy".
WaPo officially gives it to Trump.
That must have hurt.
WaPo blames it on Comey, not on Hillary's fucking behavior.
Clinton didn't think Michigan and Wisconsin were in danger? Despite having Republican legislature/executives in them?
Despite Trump playing there?
How bad was her team?
Msdnc reporting cher, gaga, perry all in tears over at clinton hq.....lol
Restocked the bar for Trump supporters.
I sort of loath the guy, but I kind of wish I were there.
The people on Fox are having a high old time. Is anyone laughing anywhere else?
The vast right wing conspiracy is vast indeed.
Maddow just can't get over it.
Put some ice on it Rachael. Isn't that what Bill would tell you?
I think CNN is ready to surrender judging by the woman saying she needed to confirm something.
Well, the problem is the pardon would basically destroy Obama's legacy and reputation (and could very easily not work for keeping her out of prison if something ELSE comes up after Trump's inaugurated).
The people on Fox are having a high old time. Is anyone laughing anywhere else?
The viewers are laughing everywhere else.
Lookin forward to Bill Maher's next show...better dvr that one
'Bout freakin' time.
Clinton called Trump!
And CNN reports that Hillary just called Trump to concede.
Fat lady has sung.
Now the old lady can get some rest.
CNN says Clinton surrendered.
Well, the fat lady called, anyway.
"But I can honestly say that I have sympathy for only one person tonight.
HRC."
Fuck that. Setting up her own server to hide her self-dealing while she was Sec. of State was beyond the pale. I hope she burns.
I told the Republican poll volunteer today after voting that I thought Trump was a narcissist & Hillary was a sociopath.
I was inclined to agree at several points this campaign. But still held out a glimmer of hope, or doubt, that maybe there was still a tiny bit more to the picture that I was missing.
Ultimately sociopaths are more dangerous than narcissists. But that's because you usually have to wait for narcissists to mess things up in dramatic fashion. They're more amenable to popular opinion, of course. But I still think the ways in which Trump can use his ego and ignorance to gang rape the nation are diverse and manifold. Perhaps even endless.
But I guess that's a Republican problem now. I know that if HRC had been elected, I would have kept up the pressure on her relentlessly. And relished it.
CNN projects Arizona. The only state left that won't put him above 270.
Maddow can't get over the fact that she has fully swallowed her own spin.
[Well except NH/Maine that didn't matter any more.]
For the record, Megyn Kelly earlier said that she met with Trump after their fight, and that he was very gracious and they've been fine ever since. She hasn't seemed to hate the result at all either.
NYT surrenders; puts Trump over 270.
It's done! OMG What have we done?
A twice-divorced man is elected president. How things have changed. I remember when there was concern because Betty Ford had been divorced.
Fox does too.
I would have said that no matter who won.
Mike Pence was a very good move.
Mick is my hero.
Yeah. Pence balanced the ticket enough to make people feel like crazy Trump would have a counter balance.
... We're all going to have to let Mick gloat, aren't we?
Bill Clinton (thinking to himself)...I wonder if Eleanor Mondale is in town?.....
Matthew Sablan: "We're all going to have to let Mick gloat, aren't we?"
I'm afraid so. He has earned it of course.
"OMG What have we done?"
Not our fault. We didn't have a choice.
CNN puts Trump at 288, surrendering PA while they're not live streaming.
Wait. If he gets Michigan, that's 288 + 16... that's over 300 isn't it?
Look at him, he is crying too.
This is the most surreal political moment in my lifetime.
So...
Shy Trump Voters are a thing.
I just received a call from Crooked Hillary...
The people are so confused about that line from Trump.
"Wait... we're supposed to... thank Crooked Hillary?"
@Sukie,
A twice-divorced man is elected president.
And by the freakin' conservative party, no less!
I am elated I was wrong, a little worried about the new Prez, but very pleased America rejected HRC. Phew.
You better make good on that, Donald.
I know politically he has to be gracious, but I wish I could be confident he'd put her in jail.
"I know politically he has to be gracious, but I wish I could be confident he'd put her in jail."
-- He won't. Crushing her electorally is the only thing we can do with the way the government is set up, unless there is a smokinger gun there.
That sound you don't hear are the phones not ringing at the Clinton Global Initiative headquarters as the foreign government brib....er...donations dry up.
Magically.
As if there will be no future favors from the US Govt to be had through certain quarters.
Is Hillary a "pulp" yet?
Fucking Mick called it. Mick the sock puppet was the only one with the balls to call it.
Rudy for AG!!
Chris Christie: I lead the transition and I have full access to the buffet!
REMEMBER IF YOUR SCHADENFREUDE LASTS FOR MORE THAN 4 HOURS, CALL ALL YOUR LIBERAL FRIENDS AND BRAG ABOUT IT - Sarah Hoyt.
I'd like to see Ben Carson get a job.
The real hero of the Trump campaign is Kelly Anne Conway [Kellyanne? I've never actually seen her name written down.] I think she's the only person who kept Trump from self destructing... more self destructing.
So now, with Chris Christie getting on with this, you still feel no regrets?
Trust me. Chris Christie will find a way to do things to you you will regret.
The guy is abominable.
Uh oh. General Mike Flynn!
Get ready obambi flag officers who sold out our services for political correctness. Your days are numbered....
All over Washington lights are going out in offices as the weenies prepare to scramble away.
R&B: "The guy is abominable"
Not if we pull his teeth.
There's a lot of hatchet burying going on here.
“What we do know is that people like me, and probably like most readers of The New York Times, truly didn’t understand the country we live in.” - Kruggers
Gee. Why would that be?
Look, I am fully prepared to be extremely disappointed. Why you ask?
Because life is pain. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.
You would have learned more reading Althouse, but you wouldn't have believed it Kruggers.
Did I miss him thanking Mike Pence??
"Did I miss him thanking Mike Pence??"
-- Yeah, I think he did that at the start after his family. Maybe? This has been a very surreal meandering Trump speech.
Mathew: "This has been a very surreal meandering Trump speech."
The guy was just elected President of the United States.
Let that sink in...because it has clearly hit him.
Trump is saying all the right things. Lame.
Lock Her Up.
OMG! Omarosa!
Achilles: "Trump is saying all the right things. Lame.
Lock Her Up."
That's the spirit!
Hey, this Trump guy is rather high energy, isn't he?
And is it just me or do his hands look larger?
God the infrastructure pablum. At least MSNBC is sinking into a hole...
Is it really the biggest political upset ever as Bret Baier just said?
Trump can afford to be gracious. Rudy as Attorney General will lead the anti-corruption efforts.....
@Sukie:"A twice-divorced man is elected president." And the first Prez married to an immigrant, right?
John Podesta better lawyer up...
"Is it really the biggest political upset ever as Bret Baier just said?"
-- It's no Trump Defeats Dewey.
Sebastian: "And the first Prez married to an immigrant, right?"
Yeah, a really hot one....
Achilles: She is locked up inside herself... that's punishment enough. Besides, there is nothing to profit from settling that score. You won, congratulations. Now get to work on infrastructure or something.
"That sound you don't hear are the phones not ringing at the Clinton Global Initiative headquarters as the foreign government brib....er...donations dry up."
So sad. I guess she'll have to settle for 100 million she's already skimmed.
Should buy a hell of a defense team.
Amy Carter was an alien
His hair sure is looking better.
Howard: "Achilles: She is locked up inside herself... that's punishment enough. Besides, there is nothing to profit from settling that score. You won, congratulations. Now get to work on infrastructure or something"
That is one point of view and an understandable one.
However, Hillary has destroyed many innocent individuals and others who have done much less in terms of handling classified documents are in prison.
What is the Governments obligation to ensure the laws are faithfully applied to all citizens equally?
Howard said...
Achilles: She is locked up inside herself... that's punishment enough. Besides, there is nothing to profit from settling that score. You won, congratulations. Now get to work on infrastructure or something.
BS. We get to keep the rule of law. We get to be a country that doesn't put wealthy powerful people above the law.
CNN is all about how the different parties can compromise.
You know, just like obama did! LOL
I wonder if Trump will walk into D.C. and say: "I won."
Moved to a new pub. A LOT of long faces here, shaking of heads at the TV.
Juan Williams is a douchebag btw. Just had to throw that out there.
There actually are quite a few areas where there is agreement between the Sanders supporters and the core Trump supporters. I wonder where the first steps along those lines will take place.
"Besides, there is nothing to profit from settling that score."
The hell there isn't. It's called deterence. It crucial.
Juan can't let it go.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! MAGA!
(it;s me, Theranter!)
One of the headlines at Drudge: Silicon Sultans Shit Themselves
Howard, live and let live as a philosophy will only work when the same rules are applied to both parties.
When the dems experience some of what they've been dishing out to others perhaps they will think twice about what they've done.
I wonder if Cruz is still thinking about 2020. Or 2018...
Wow. No Hillary Supreme Court Justices.
I'm as giddy as a school boy.
I was pleasantly surprised by Trump's victory speech. He certainly hit the right notes in it.
"When the dems experience some of what they've been dishing out to others perhaps they will think twice about what they've done."
Lois. Lerner.
MSNBC's Richard Engel has decided to lob "megalomaniac" and narcissistic and strongman and every other name at Trump.
You know, striking a decidedly moderate tone......LOL
Achilles: "I wonder if Cruz is still thinking about 2020. Or 2018..."
He ought to be thinking about the Supreme Court.
Manchin is going to switch parties to get re-elected.
In 2018 the republicans have a real shot at 60 senators.
Now MSNBC is worried about all of the powers we have given the executive.
Oh good, Richard Engel is now joined by Lawrence O'Donnell who is lecturing us now on the proper role of Congress and how powers can be taken back by Congress. He is also lecturing us on how the Constitution should be consulted to limit Trump's power!
LOL
Hey, he has a pen and a phone!
"Now MSNBC is worried about all of the powers we have given the executive."
-- Shoes. They go on other feet.
OK, MSNBC is too bitter. They can't climb out of the Hillary talking points. The bubble still hasn't burst.
I had to turn it off. You stare into the abyss and abyss stares right back...
Unless I wrong Clinton is going to win the popular vote by a long ways.
Am I reading this wrong?
California is going to dump another million or so into that pot. Last year I woke up and there were 10-15 million more votes on the total. Will that happen this year?
See, Hillary, here's the deal: We really, really don't like you. You are in no way likeable enough.
Drago,
I would love it if Cruz were on the court, but I think he would have trouble even getting a Republican Senate to just go nuclear and put him there (thanks for the idea, Harry!).
"You stare into the abyss and abyss stares right back..."
and winks.
306 - 232
No gun shopping though. =/
Drago wrote:
"There actually are quite a few areas where there is agreement between the Sanders supporters and the core Trump supporters. I wonder where the first steps along those lines will take place."
Yes, there are- more than a lot of people are willing to admit. I don't remember who suggested in this blog comment section, but someone suggested making Bernie Sanders head of the SEC. I am sure it was a joke, I just can't quite figure out why it is a joke. Sounds like justice to me.
Night people.
Lock her up.
Trump's victory speech was nearly perfect, and appears to have been completely off the cuff, too.
I am glad someone in the Clinton camp had the good sense to convince her to concede. I am trying to think who that someone might have been, but am coming up blank.
Yes, goodnight all.
"I am trying to think who that someone might have been, but am coming up blank."
-- Judging by the leaked emails, either Abedin or Mills. They both seem to be the voices of reason to Clinton in those.
Qwinn said...
I know politically he has to be gracious, but I wish I could be confident he'd put her in jail.
Can''t think of a worse idea. He didn't run to take vengeance on the Clintons.
Well, this has been...something, I'm not quite sure what yet. Nice hanging with y'all.
Hey, the night is young!
"Can''t think of a worse idea. He didn't run to take vengeance on the Clintons."
I agree, BUT, he needs to have his AG look at the FBI's evidence.
This one's for Mick & Bad LT & all the true believers:
YT Queen: Champions
How funny - Trump took his first 3AM call, and turns out it was Hillary on the line!
Not one step back, HooDoo tovarishch!
Stalin issues Order No. 227—outlawing cowards - Jul 27, 1943 - HISTORY.com
History.com › this-day-in-history › stalin...
227, what came to be known as the “Not one step backward” order, in light of German advances into Russian territory.
Trump should keep clean hands, not get involved, but competent reformed govt appointees should lead proper agencies to see justice done. IE let Giuliani do it.
Oh HD "3am call" that was funny AF
I had a bad feeling when Florida was lost. Turns out Ohio remains a bellweather.
The only hope I have is that he says it's all a joke and says ladies and gentlemen, here is your next president, and resigns. Pence is probably more conservative (much) than Trump, but I don't even care. I prefer him. I can't "believe me" (Trump).
Congratulations to those who wanted him to win and to those thought he would win - I think it's safe to say many on here did not - including Mick, who I thought a lot of last night.
It's suddenly a sucky day for the DemocratIC Party, which everyone knew was coming, just not so soon.
Goodbye environment, it's the final nail in your coffin. Goodbye (overpriced) healthcare: without a stable climate, it doesn't really matter. See ya Supreme Court, they got that. Hello nuclear anxiety, and worsening diplomacy.
Well, we shall see.
Congratulations again to all his supporters.
What if Mick was right about Obama's birth certificate also?
Yes!
Now the real work begins.
Lets get this republic back on track.
Be of good cheer, HT - and others. All those horrible things you think are going to happen? Environment. Nuclear anxiety. Worsening diplomacy. You've bought into the swill that the media and their DNC party, the corporatists, and the global elitists want you to believe.
Besides, nuclear anxiety - hello Iran, NK yada, and worsening diplomacy - see Russia and China, e.g., already exist. As for the environment - you've bought into the narrative that "those others" don't give a flying fig about it - even though we live here and have children and grandchildren.
Thank you to all commenting on this and the other couple of "presidential" threads. I was nowhere but here for the election news. All of you were great - especially a shout out to R&B. I may not always agree with you politically, but your take on Hillary and the DNC is spot on. I always believed Bernie was your response to the swill in your party and although I would not have voted for him, I appreciated what he brought to the table in terms of his "poor and working class" championing.
Is this a record?
Howard said...
"Achilles: She is locked up inside herself... that's punishment enough. Besides, there is nothing to profit from settling that score. You won, congratulations. Now get to work on infrastructure or something."
Oh.So NOW you want to civil.
Piss off.
Many voters, mostly Dems, stayed home:
2008 ~ Obama = 69.5 million /// McCain = 60 milion
2012 ~ Obama = 66 million /// Romney = 61 million
2016 ~ Hillary = 59,137,478 /// Trump = 59,025,041 so far as the totals will increase slightly in the next few days.
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So, even McCain and Willard, at this time got more votes than Trump!
And Obama got 9.5 million more votes than Trump in 2008 when the eligible voter base was smaller.
As always, America gets the govt it deserves and America's voters are basically lazy. Congrats!
Also, both Trump and Hillary did a really good job suppressing the vote ie both had yuuuuuge unfavorables.
It will be interesting watching Trump's job approval the next (4) years. Indeed, he's sooooo frickin' unlikable from the get-go as many who voted for him don't like him already.
From the time I got up yesterday until I got home, I did not listen to news AT ALL. I listened to radio Christian music, and if news came on found another station. Convinced HRC was going to win, I was sick of election news coverage. When I got home my wife (who didn't vote) had on election news and refused to turn it off. I went to bed early, alone, as she watched until HRC conceded and DJT made his victory speech. Then I see AA had a thread that went longer than any I've seen since I've been lurking. Weirdness.
"Turns out Ohio remains a bellweather."
Yes, even when voter turnout is very low.
2008 ~ Obama = 2.9 million /// McCain = 2.7 million
2016 ~ Trump = 2.77 million /// Hillary = 2.3 million
ie Trump got about the same # of votes as McCain, but won easily. Dems were not excited with Hillary. Also, don't think Sanders would have made a difference as he would have had the same problem er GOTV.
Shorter, Shiloh.
You lose.
I'm just here because I wanted to post on an Althouse thread with over 1000 posts. This should be 1168.
For the record, I watched pro wrestling and then played video games to avoid any and all election coverage. I need to work today and needed to sleep. I woke up in the dread that the results would be very depressing. My reaction to opening up Instapundit:
"Oh my (censored) God!"
For the record, I have asked the Lord for forgiveness for the profanity, but that is not taking the Lord's name in vain. I meant it quite literally. What just happened???
I just find it funny that there is a comment about the failure of identity politics, and to prepare to post, you have to "Choose an identity"
And yes, I know the soil and water conservation commission involves work. It's not paid, either. It's just part of my plan to take the vice presidency in 2020. Do you have to be natural born Murkan for Veep? I'm a refugee from the People's Republic of Kanada so I can't run for Prez.
Everyone is talking about Mick, who is Mick?
dustbunny said...
"Everyone is talking about Mick, who is Mick?"
That would be me. Merry Trumpmas. Ding Dong the witch is dead.
tim in vermont said...
Is Hillary a "pulp" yet?
"Fucking Mick called it. Mick the sock puppet was the only one with the balls to call it".
Yes I was. Saw it clear as day.
tim in vermont said...
"I am raising a glass to Mick".
Clink... we live in interesting times.
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