September 15, 2015

80 years ago today: "The so-called Nuremberg Laws of September 15, 1935, deprived the Jews of German citizenship, confining them to the status of 'subjects.'"

"It also forbade marriage between Jews and Aryans as well as extramarital relations between them, and it prohibited Jews from employing female Aryan servants under thirty-five years of age. In the next few years some thirteen decrees supplementing the Nuremberg Laws would outlaw the Jew completely. But already by the summer of 1936 when the Germany which was host to the Olympic games was enchanting the visitors from the West, the Jews had been excluded either by law or by Nazi terror— the latter often preceded the former— from public and private employment to such an extent that at least one half of them were without means of livelihood. In the first year of the Third Reich, 1933, they had been excluded from public office, the civil service, journalism, radio, farming, teaching, the theater, the films; in 1934 they were kicked out of the stock exchanges, and though the ban on their practicing the professions of law and medicine or engaging in business did not come legally until 1938 they were in practice removed from these fields by the time the first four-year period of Nazi rule had come to an end. Moreover, they were denied not only most of the amenities of life but often even the necessities. In many a town the Jew found it difficult if not impossible to purchase food. Over the doors of the grocery and butcher shops, the bakeries and the dairies, were signs, 'Jews Not Admitted.' In many communities Jews could not procure milk even for their young children. Pharmacies would not sell them drugs or medicine. Hotels would not give them a night’s lodging. And always, wherever they went, were the taunting signs 'Jews Strictly Forbidden in This Town' or 'Jews Enter This Place at Their Own Risk.' At a sharp bend in the road near Ludwigshafen was a sign, 'Drive Carefully! Sharp Curve! Jews 75 Miles an Hour!'"

William L. Shirer,  "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."

42 comments:

rhhardin said...

It was all based on decency and family values, is the important thing.

What Hannah Arendt called the banality of evil. It's not so easy to spot as it's made out to be.

Etienne said...

A similar experiment was conducted against Japanese-Americans.

All the farms I picked berries at had Japanese names. They were able to save their farms, even though they were sent to concentration camps, by selling them to their white neighbors.

Those neighbors then returning their land after the war was over.

P.S. All the homecoming queens in our high school were always Japanese. They had to be, as the Scandinavian girls were kind of rugged looking, but the Japanese girls were gorgeous dolls.

I guess we all have our crosses to bear from the post Depression era. It was all Capitalism's fault (I read).

Etienne said...

The nice thing about America, is we don't need a law, we can just have an Executive Order. (Ba-dum ching!)

n.n said...

Today, the so-called "social justice" policies (e.g. "=") selectively deprive people of equality, opportunity, rights, and even life.

Fernandistein said...

With that legacy, it's no wonder that Jews are so violent and poor.

tim in vermont said...

Phase II, replace the Jews with Arabs who will know their place and only work menial jobs.

damikesc said...

Seems those comments would fit into most major "Pro-Palestine" demonstrations.

Also, much as we hate to say it, what was done was "the law of the land", so Dems, of course, would have to support them.

JAORE said...

"Over the doors of the ...bakeries... were signs, 'Jews Not Admitted.'"

Damn those bakers. They never learn.

traditionalguy said...

The Nazi demonic possession of an entire people under Big Lie propaganda technique repeated over and over that Jews were a disease infecting an otherwise healthy body of people. Therefore Public Health required quarantine and then the killing off the disease bearers ( Eugenic Science) to save the lives of Volk's Nordic Blood and soil.

Who would dare to defend a deadly disease agent???

The closest analogy is today's Big Lie propaganda campaign pretending there is a Climate Disease of carbon infection in the air. The same remedies are being preached by Obama and his Watermelon Communists today.

damikesc said...

tradguy, you could also argue that the blaming of ALL the problems on the ME on the existence of Israel is about as bad.

Peter said...

Well, at least those who implemented these laws obeyed the law of the land.

Brando said...

Nothing like a desperate people, an evil messianic leader, and a convenient scapegoat to get society into a tailspin. But the key ingredient there was to give unlimited power to the state, and for the state to be in the hands of that leader's vicious criminal gang. This is the danger of unchecked power, particularly when the people accept it.

ELC said...

I read Shirer's book last year: it's an 1,100-page horror story all the more horrific for having been true.

I descried two parallels with contemporary developments: (1) repeated opportunities to prevent another terrible war were squandered, and (2) one party controlled mass media.

cubanbob said...

It would be prudent for Europe's Jews to start thinking of emmigration. Between the Muslims already in Europe, the ones to come and the inevitable backlash against the Jews for somehow being responsible for the mass migration to Europe of Arabs and Muslims now would be a good time to start planning to leave.

Freeman Hunt said...

I watched Judgment at Nuremberg a few days ago. I loved it until the end when one judge was going over precedent and another judge ignored him and said to look at the victims' photos. I think it was supposed to be a triumphant moment, but I found the idea of a judge waving away the law, as though it were merely an irritating gnat, chilling. (Note: That's not a comment on the final outcome.)

damikesc said...

I read Shirer's book last year: it's an 1,100-page horror story all the more horrific for having been true.

It's excellent as is Richard Evans' 3 book series "Rise of the Third Reich", "Third Reich in Power" and "Third Reich at War". Really in-depth study of the time and I think Evans did a bit better job as he was less directly involved, given that Shirer was reporting on everything as it happened.

damikesc said...

I watched Judgment at Nuremberg a few days ago. I loved it until the end when one judge was going over precedent and another judge ignored him and said to look at the victims' photos. I think it was supposed to be a triumphant moment, but I found the idea of a judge waving away the law, as though it were merely an irritating gnat, chilling. (Note: That's not a comment on the final outcome.)

But Nuremburg was amazingly terrible jurisprudence. One of the countries sitting in judgment committed nearly identical atrocities.

Larry J said...

Freeman Hunt said...
I watched Judgment at Nuremberg a few days ago. I loved it until the end when one judge was going over precedent and another judge ignored him and said to look at the victims' photos. I think it was supposed to be a triumphant moment, but I found the idea of a judge waving away the law, as though it were merely an irritating gnat, chilling. (Note: That's not a comment on the final outcome.)


Since when have judges been constrained by the law?

Michael said...

cubanbob

Agree! And here is another idea. Why not have the US accept as many Jews as Europe accepts Muslim refugees/immigrants. Take one for two or two for one. Either way a win for Europe since they can ride a higher high horse and a win for the US. Would make that "trade" all day long in lieu of taking the Muslim immigrants/refugees.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

"How Jewish are they? You know, Fiddler on the Roof: audience or cast?"

-- Roger Sterling (Mad Men, "Dark Shadows" (S5; E9))

CWJ said...

Would Germans use mph? Even in translation, 75 miles per hour sounds strange.

damikesc said...

Agree! And here is another idea. Why not have the US accept as many Jews as Europe accepts Muslim refugees/immigrants. Take one for two or two for one. Either way a win for Europe since they can ride a higher high horse and a win for the US. Would make that "trade" all day long in lieu of taking the Muslim immigrants/refugees.

Or just ME Christians. They have been slaughtered in big numbers for a while now.

The Drill SGT said...

In October 1935 Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels peremptorily announced that ‘It is forbidden to list the names of fallen Jews on memorials and memorial plaques for the fallen of the world war.’ According to Nazi ideology a Jew, even a Jew who had died for Germany, was not a real German. Following Goebbels’ edict, some war memorials duly underwent ‘Aryanisation’. At Heilbronn a memorial was dedicated in March 1936, but the names of the Jewish war dead had been chiselled out and replaced with those of First World War battles.

Rusty said...

And to this day progressives are trying to turn us all into "subjects".

Anonymous said...

CWJ: In Germany, 120 KPH is a common speed restriction. 80, 100, 130 are also common limits. One K = .66 Miles. Do the math if you are curious.
It's fun AND educational.

CWJ said...

Livermoron,

You don't give me credit, and miss my point. Why not just say 120 km an hour?

BTW, if you're going to revert to condescension, at least get the conversion rate correct.


glenn said...

By their senior year in High School every American kid should have read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" And at least the first volume of Winston Churchill's memoirs of WW2 "The Gathering Storm". If you haven't read them your education is woefully incomplete.

jimbino said...

That's why we Amerikans value our 2nd Amendment rights. The Jews should have armed themselves of course, had it been possible. To this day, I wonder that our Blacks, hanged, hunted and harassed for so long, didn't take up arms. In Munich of 1933, as in my Chicago youth of the 60s, "the only good cop is a dead cop."

damikesc said...

By their senior year in High School every American kid should have read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" And at least the first volume of Winston Churchill's memoirs of WW2 "The Gathering Storm". If you haven't read them your education is woefully incomplete.

I'd put in a good word, again, for Richard Evans' 3 book set. Very good study of the era including copious diary entries from Jewish professors and people who ended up getting caught up in the Nazi mania and all.

But Shirer's book is inspired work.

cubanbob said...

Michael said...
cubanbob

Agree! And here is another idea. Why not have the US accept as many Jews as Europe accepts Muslim refugees/immigrants. Take one for two or two for one. Either way a win for Europe since they can ride a higher high horse and a win for the US. Would make that "trade" all day long in lieu of taking the Muslim immigrants/refugees.

9/15/15, 1:15 PM"

Not sure who said this, I think it was a Spanish journalist, that Europe traded six million Jews for twenty million Muslims. By and large how well has that turned out for the Europeans? As for Christians in the Middle East, bring them in but I would like to know why so many of them are so anti semitic after being subjugated by Muslims for so long.

Mark said...

"Judgment at Nuremberg" is of course a dramatization not of the trial of the major war criminals, the Nazi high command -- that was an international tribunal, not a purely American one -- but the so-called "Justice Trial" against various judges in wartime Germany, United States of America v. Alstötter, et al. The defense raised was that the judges could not be guilty because they were merely following the law.

As we have heard over and over recently, "the law is the law," and we have an obligation to follow it regardless of our own views and regardless of claims of a higher law. This was their defense essentially. And the tribunal rightly rejected that defense.
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There IS a higher law that we are obligated to follow, a law higher than the laws of a given nation. And under that law, you have an obligation to resist. Failure to follow that higher law, that higher obligation, can get one condemned to the gallows. Fundamental justice, fundamental respect for the freedom and dignity of human persons supersedes national law.

Known Unknown said...

Never again?

Roadkill711 said...

The "Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons" act of 1938 effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess any form of weapons including truncheons, knives, or firearms and ammunition. That is, any form of self-defense. Today's liberals would call it reasonable gun control.

rcocean said...

Did you realize that Bill Shirer was a commie? Or that he was married to a Jewish socialist from Austria? Or that he supported the Morgenthau plan in 1944?

Once you do realize that, you can understand why Shirer starts his 1,000 page book with some crazy crap about the Germans being genetically evil and addicted to war and conquest.

The other thing about Shirer is that despite his limited talents as an author and journalist he somehow managed to make a 50 year living out of being in Europe from 1933-1940. First came, "Berlin Diary" then a book on returning to Germany after WW 2, then some novels about that time period, then "Rise and fall of the 3rd Reich", then "Collapse of the French republic", and finally three books of autobiography, 2 of which are mostly about Europe in the 30s.

rcocean said...

And I'm almost forgot the fact that like Eric Severiad, he lived high on the hog in the USA during WW2, calling everyone to the Right of FDR a fascist/Nazi lover and telling everyone they had to fight to the last man to kill Hitler.

Of course, like Eric he was too old and 4-F too actually fight but that didn't prevent him from demanding others fight to the death.

Robert Cook said...

"The Nazi demonic possession of an entire people under Big Lie propaganda technique repeated over and over that Jews were a disease infecting an otherwise healthy body of people. Therefore Public Health required quarantine and then the killing off the disease bearers ( Eugenic Science) to save the lives of Volk's Nordic Blood and soil.

"Who would dare to defend a deadly disease agent???

"The closest analogy is today's Big Lie propaganda campaign pretending there is a Climate Disease of carbon infection in the air. The same remedies are being preached by Obama and his Watermelon Communists today."


Ludicrous.

One close analogy today is the common notionn in America today, and probably in some other Western nations, that Muslims are innately treacherous, violent, even murderous, medieval in their thinking, more likely than not to be anti-Western terrorists or terrorist supporters or sympathizers, and so on. Another is the common, perennial racism toward blacks, and the panoply of beliefs covered under that umbrella, (e.g., blacks are innately more violent, innately more prone to criminal behavior, innately less industrious, less capable, less intelligent, etc.)

jr565 said...

And if there were no laws restricting Jews to not marry Germans, could they marry into gay marriages? I didn't think so.

Roger Zimmerman said...

If you want to read a fascinating argument that traces the ideological basis of National Socialism to the philosophy of Hegel and (most fundamentally) Kant, try "The Ominous Parallels" by Leonard Peikoff. This book is a tour-de-force of integration, showing the specific ideas that were put into very specific practice throughout the Third Reich. As a bonus, Peikoff shows how those same ideas have permeated the American post-modern left, and how they will result in the same outcome, unless the philosophy is challenged at its root.

Nichevo said...

9/16/15, 1:18 AM

...and rcocean is out of the closet!

Alex said...

Our schools are too busy teaching about transexualism to bother with things like history.

rcocean said...

"And I almost forgot the fact that like Eric Severiad, he lived high on the hog in the USA during WW2, calling everyone to the Right of FDR a fascist/Nazi lover and telling everyone they had to fight to the last man to kill Hitler."

I misspoke there, I meant to say that Shirer was telling everyone to fight to the last man to destroy Germany. That's why Shirer supported the Morgenthau plan. And all during his time in the USA during WW2, Shirer was looked upon as some sort of Expert on Germany. And what was he telling the American people? Basically, racist crap. The German people were bad, evil and had to be destroyed. No negotiation, even if they got rid of Hitler.

Rusty said...

glenn said...
By their senior year in High School every American kid should have read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" And at least the first volume of Winston Churchill's memoirs of WW2 "The Gathering Storm". If you haven't read them your education is woefully incomplete.


By their senior year in high school every American kid should learn to accurately shoot a rifle as well.
The problem with Jews in Europe being unarmed was that the people of Europe had no tradition of firearms. Firearm ownership was strictly by class.
There was no need. After all that is what the police were for?
The Jews from Holland entered the railcars with their finest luggage, dressed in their best clothes.
The elders of the ghetto in Warsaw were ordered to provide 10,000 people for the next "deportation". After much soul searching they rounded up 10, 0000 children and shipped them off to the extermination camps. Not one volunteered to take a child's place.
Every Jew in America should own an assault rifle.