Althouse: "It is also alleged that she moved the paddle away from him as he was struggling to stay afloat..."

May 26, 2015

"It is also alleged that she moved the paddle away from him as he was struggling to stay afloat..."

"... with water temperatures in the 40 degree range, and failed to render him assistance including timely calls for help."

Said the prosecutor in that Hudson River kayak case.

17 comments:

tim in vermont said...: "And when I returned, Mary Jo and the car were gone." - Democrat Hero.; 5/26/15, 5:25 PM
Skyler said...: Was she obliged to rescue him? Last I heard there was no such law.; 5/26/15, 5:26 PM
Big Mike said...: That was "her only way out"? How about "just say no"?; 5/26/15, 5:27 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: Wow, even more An American Tragedy.; 5/26/15, 5:45 PM
Ann Althouse said...: "Was she obliged to rescue him? Last I heard there was no such law."

Yeah, but the prosecution is saying she moved that paddle away from him.; 5/26/15, 5:48 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: It is a mistake to read An American Tragedy before having watched A Place in the Sun. It will make you think A Place in the Sun is childish and stupid. Perhaps it really is childish and stupid. Or perhaps it isn't. If you read An American Tragedy first, you will never know.; 5/26/15, 5:49 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: Like The Brothers Karamozov, you could stop reading An American Tragedy once the trial starts. You will not miss much and will save several hundred pages. Like how you can stop reading A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man when he gets to about high school or maybe college, except you don't save hundreds of pages in that case but the equivalent in annoyance.; 5/26/15, 6:38 PM
rhhardin said...: The man in the canoe.

I never understood the particulars of that, by the way. It's probably like the constellations.

Another H.A.Rey is needed to figure it out.

A man, a plan, a canoe...; 5/26/15, 8:04 PM
rhhardin said...: Ham: Do you see yonder cloud that's almost in shape of a canoe?

Pol: By th' mass, and ’tis like a canoe indeed.

Ham: Methinks it is like a weasel.

Pol: It is backed like a weasel.

Ham: Or like a whale.

Pol: Very like a whale.; 5/26/15, 8:14 PM
JCC said...: I especially enjoy the comments of defense counsel. She never said that. If she did, she didn't understand enough English to know what she was saying. if she did understand, she only said such because it was coerced. And she didn't waive Miranda, so none of it matters anyway. Poor girl. Or something like that.

Along similar lines, I did see an attorney for the DC suspect on CNN. The young man was never violent, a paragon of virtue, the cops made it all up, we know how they are, DNA is rigged all the time. This homily for a man accused of torturing and then murdering, among others, a 10 year old, in front of the child's parents. He's entitled to a presumption of innocence and a fair trial, not a lying speech intended to influence public opinion and potential jurors.

Paid liars.; 5/26/15, 8:44 PM
Skyler said...: It seems to me that unless there was a witness and the "confession" is not recorded, then this should fail the reasonable doubt standard.; 5/27/15, 5:15 AM
Skyler said...: My favorite Freeman observed, "Like The Brothers Karamozov, you could stop reading An American Tragedy once the trial starts."

I've never bothered to read John Galt's speech either. It's so unnecessary to the story.; 5/27/15, 5:20 AM
Ann Althouse said...: "I've never bothered to read John Galt's speech either. It's so unnecessary to the story."

I've never read any of it (other than to attempt to read it and get bored 10 pages in), but from what I've read about it, it would make more sense to skip the story and read the speech.; 5/27/15, 5:48 AM
JCC said...: @ skyler -

"...should fail the reasonable doubt standard."

Everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. Concluding the proper outcome before the presentation of evidence and its cross examination is hardly an informed opinion though. In that you are hardly alone. Second guessing the investigators, the prosecutors and ultimately, the jurors, is a national pastime, although it does seem biased in favor of the defense. You're starting early, but it's good to get a jump on the competition.; 5/27/15, 6:18 AM
Shanna said...: I just read that. Do they have witnesses? How on earth are they supposed to be proving that she pulled his paddle away from him?; 5/27/15, 9:03 AM
Freeman Hunt said...: The only problem with the H.A.Rey constellations is that they make the real ones so disappointing!; 5/27/15, 10:15 AM
Paul Kramer said...: i think they are saying that she sabotaged the kayak.............
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/2015/05/26/vincent-viafore-angelika-graswald-kayak-killer-orangecounty-hudson-river-new-york-murder/27983617/; 5/27/15, 12:51 PM