Indeed.
We're barraged by new distractions, so let's catch things that are slipping down the memory hole. It's not just Nakoula. It's Chris Stevens. Our ambassador was murdered, and he was murdered after he was targeted and he was not given security.
Shame on those who disrespected Nakoula's freedom of speech. Their faults are apparent and need to be remembered. But what happened to Chris Stevens? I don't trust that we've learned the whole story. Why wasn't he protected? Was he an inconvenient man? We saw such an effort to create static around his death. Look — riots over here, here, and here! Offensive video on the internet! Man with a "towel" around his face! And hey check out the most important thing that happened all week: Romney said "47%" to some people back in May!
The very fact that we're thinking about Nakoula — and futzing with Romney rhetoric — makes me feel that Chris Stevens got stuffed down the memory hole.
Who wanted that forgetting and why?
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How's that goin' for you, sockpuppet?
oola
you don't have to worry about this guy. Mommy doesn't let him venture outside of the confines of her service porch. Every time you post something he reaches into his bucket of man-lube. Quit feeding his fetish.
I've sent an email to Althouse and Meade. This place is a cesspool.
oola (alley oop's girlfriend) said...
I've sent an email to Althouse and Meade. This place is a cesspool.
I made a point last summer to try and meet Althouse and Meade. They were gracious enough to meet me at the Memorial Union. Though I do post here as chickelit and in the past as chickenlittle, I wanted them to know that there was a real person behind that identity. Perhaps you should try something similar.
There are a few commenters I could call out who consistently bring this place down, but I hardly think that "B" is one of them (though he shouldn't have shared that private info of yours). On that you have my sympathy, Allie.
Now my daughter has just been put in even greater danger, by this lunatic. He published my name, any terrorist reading this blog can now look me up and find out my daughter's name.
What a sick fucker.
... makes me feel that Chris Stevens got stuffed down the memory hole.
Regrettably, you seem to be correct.
chickelit said...(though he shouldn't have shared that private info of yours)
Public info. She posted it on a blog.
And I did give her several opportunities to back off. Instead, she chose to double down on stupid and tell me that she would make it a point to shout out her delusions every time I commented.
The professor and Meade are welcome to delete my posts. Won't offend me. They should delete the ones she made that precipitated this also in that case, though it won't offend me if they don't. I am responsible for what I write. Let 'oola' be also.
phx, please remove your comment, I don't want my name being repeated, Ok?
I can't wait until the election is over and all the MediaMatters spambots crawl back in their holes. This thread has to have set an all-time record for first-timer left-wing loony trolls.
when the fabled '3am phone call' came, obama rolled over and went back to sleep...literally! that's actually what happened! he was told that the embassy was under attack and he went beddy-bye in order to be fresh in the morning for his las vegas fundraiser.
what more do we need to know?
"In short, shame them right back. Put a mirror up to their rotten faces and show them what scum they are and dare them to object to anything that we do to them. And if they do, kill them."
Yup!
phx said...What a petty coward you are.
How so? I know you can read and understand the timeline.
Once again. I am responsible for everything I write. All of it. And so is she. All of it. That's the small picture.
The larger picture. We've gone through 8 years of lies from the left and now close to another 4. I am sick of lies and sick of liars.
How so? I know you can read and understand the timeline.
You know where I stand.
phx,
She is removing her comments now. When all the threats are gone, all of them, and all the comments addressing me also - I will remove mine.
And I will be back to assiduously ignoring her comments and hope she now takes my caution to heart and ignores mine.
All of them.
All of them. Erase the record. You're good at that.
My God, I have seen evil face to face.
"Beware the possibility that the whole "gay" thing is a misdirection by the coveruppers, either in its origin or perpetuation."
Yup.
BTW, thanks for the rain dance, "hippie" Althouse. We had some last PM. Desperately needed!
All of them. Take responsibility. Yes or no?
NO, FUCK YOU ! YOU disgusting goat fucking bastard.
8:50 (that you should realize was dumb anyway)
9:33
9:37
Your call.
I got a screen catch of your comments, that's all I need. Just talked with my orher daughter, the one that is an attorney, she works for the state of Wisconsin.
You really don't know what you have gotten yourself into , do you?
Talk to her again.
Still waiting for the last deletes.
B,
You keep on threatening me you sick fucker, all the more evidence to catch a screen shot of.
You really don't know what you have gotten yourself into , do you?
As to that, as I said in my response to your comment opening this ball, you are not in the same league. So save it.
I'm tired of this. Last chance before I go do something interesting. Delete them.
Do you know blackmail is illegal? Man you are not only sick, you are DUMBER than a box of rocks.
"Prof. Althouse is perfectly free to block my account, I have no problem with that."
What does it matter if you have a problem with that or not?
Is there an "I'm Important!" pin on your chest?
What does it matter if you have a problem with that or not?
Fair point. Better put that I won't complain about it?
I doubt if this will make 'oola' feel any better, but some of us who have been around the web for a few years have had far worse done to us than having our real names appear in separate bits on a 400+ comment thread.
I've had my real name, address, and phone number published on the front page of a then-popular website (older websters may remember Warblogger Watch) with clear encouragement for readers to harrass me. To make it worse, they were so incompetent that the address and phone number were actually those of my elderly parents, though the name was mine. No one ever called or knocked on their door.
A fellow-commenter at Betsy's Page kept up a vile campaign of harrassment for years, culminating in an invitation to a 'gay coming-out party' with my real name, address, and telephone number. Though it was up for quite a few hours before I got hold of Betsy to delete it, no one knocked or called. (By the way, I'm not gay, and still amused at the number of lefties who think that being gay is perfectly normal and good and at the same time a devastating insult.) He (or she) had previously posted my real name and address, insulted the student of a named school that I was actually no longer teaching at, and much much more, including signing my real name to a comment on Betsy's husband's site, where I have never posted, saying really stupid things that are the opposite of my own opinions.
In that case, I figured it was some former student I'd given a richly-deserved D or F to, but whoever the creep was has managed to preserve his own anonymity.
So calm down, 'oola'. Only half a dozen people will ever see your real name, and none of them will care enough to harrass you.
Sorry. Might have reacted to something not directed to me.
Well, the last name is my maiden name, so if he thinks he has gotten something over on me, he hasn't, he just proved what a despicable piece of dung he is.
I left the one at 6:09. I think the record of how you started the ball should be preserved. Take what I said in it to heart. Keep it in mind from here on out.
Shame. I delete them and you open the ball again.
B, FUCK YOU, DROP DEAD, continue to threaten me at your own risk.
Nope. The comment at 6:09 stays.
Much as you'd like to follow your usual practice of deleting comments and somehow delete that one also, I prefer the record of the opening move stand.
Petition the blog owners if you want that one gone.
DROP DEAD, B. As I said keep it up at your own risk.
I dont give a shit if your 6:09 comment remains, I NEVER asked you to remove it, you pathetic bastard.
Petition Althouse. Otherwise, it stays.
Don't kid yourself that the comments you made after that are forever gone either. The record exists. Show your daughter the screenshots. Or take some good advice and don't. What would she think?
Again Bastard, I didn't ask you to remove it, now quit trying to save face, you made yourself look like the goatfucker you are.
And do not even mention my children, my daughter has read this thread, you goat fucking Bastard.
I am not about to tell you what she said and what our options are, but If I were you, I would back the fuck off. Last warning.
You really are a brainless twit, aren't you? Ok then. Games back on. Give me about 1/2 hour.
YOU will be sorry,too bad you are so evil and stupid.
"This sounds kind of prejudiced to me. One group of people are highly principled and another completely without principles. Does this strike you as a realistic description of human nature?"
Yes. Ideology is manufactured, principles are original. Human nature is original.
Boheme currently on Connoisseur Classics. Glorious. As Zefferelli said, it's hard to murder Boheme.
Seriously people?
"Public info. She posted it on a blog."
People who post private info are assholes. Always. No excuses. No explaining how you were right and something is public. It's ALL public. Our entire lives are public. The only privacy we have is derived from the free choice of free people to not be assholes.
It doesn't matter who was on the right side of an argument or who was on the wrong side of the argument. Personal info is personal and people who use it as a weapon are assholes.
And Synova. Another one who's pretty hot when she's right.
What an odd thread. From the very beginning.
“Why IS the cork on the fork?”--Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
"It doesn't matter who was on the right side of an argument or who was on the wrong side of the argument. Personal info is personal and people who use it as a weapon are assholes."
Yup.
"May I go to the bathroom?"
Freedom of speech is so precious to one of Althouse's commenters, B, that he posted my real first and last name and then threatened to blackmail me with more personal information, if I didn't remove my comments to him.
I guess this is how the fine patriotic conservative B thinks free speech looks like in his twisted world.
If I posted a picture of my face, and the general location I lived, and numerous pictures of my adult children, I wouldn't think finding out my real name would be much of a stretch.
Deborah, so does that make it right that he posts my full real name here?
'Focus." Chip Ahoy and the WSJ today have reported details which may be important. Mr. Smith, also killed at the embassy, corresponding with a gaming buddy said he wondered if it would be his last day on earth as an official Libyan guard seemed to be 'casing the joint,' their compound. This has face validity now but suggests that Smith was on a mission, the severity of his concern suggests that he was projecting a retribution for his aggression. The Wall Street Journal quotes the Libyan government as being surprised by the number of U.S employees at the annex 'safe house.' They expected there to be a mission but nothing so large as to suggest lack of Libyan 'sovereignty.' Reminds me of the shop sign: Rule #1 The Boss is always right, Rule #2 When the boss is wrong, refer to Rule #1. So I think Benghazi was a listening post, regional coordination center to include Egypt. The uprising against Americans on 9-11 in Egypt was anticipated and the planned deflection of anti-Americanism from Muslim nationalism set in motion there. Stevens, who was a bit of a risk taker, chose to avoid attention by being low profile, but Muslim kill Americans day was a bit more of a celebration than he realized or security had already been breached. As things unfolded in Benghazi the administration took its defection story for Cairo as a cover story for Benghazi.
It's not about right, but carelessness. If you are Inga D., you put yourself out there.
Deborah, it IS about RIght and Wrong. It may be careless of me, but commenters here who would stoop so low, are immoral.
He owes Nakoula the federal witness protection program. Which, ironically, is more protection than our Middle Eastern ambassadors get.
If I posted a picture of my face, and the general location I lived, and numerous pictures of my adult children, I wouldn't think finding out my real name would be much of a stretch.
9/22/12 11:24 PM
Exactly.
When I was new to blogs, I used my real name. A left-wing idiot googled it and posted my home address and place of employment, and announced that he was going to contact my employers. It was alarming to see my personal information displayed like that, but then I thought, "So a nutbag calls my boss. Is he going to listen or care about what some stranger has to say about my personal opinions, expressed on my home computer and not on work time?" If the loon ever made a call, I never heard about it. I was a bit antsy about some nutbag turning up on my doorstep, but that didn't happen.
Still, I learned my lesson. I'm pretty careful about what I share about myself on the Internet.
Allie/Inga/oola or whatever you're calling yourself this hour (why the constant name changes, especially when you post your photo? Who do you think you're fooling?) yes, I agree that it's bad form to post someone's name on the Internet. I would not worry too much about your daughter's safety. It's extremely improbable that terrorists are sitting around reading the Althouse blog, just in case the name of a serviceman or woman happens to pop up.
I don't approve of what B did, but for God's sake, calm down.
Exiled, I'm not trying to fool you or anybody, if I was why would I use my same profile pic, plus I said yesterday, that I changed my avatar and moniker on a lark, I let it be know that oola was AllieOop several times to different commenters.
My real first name is Inga and since B posted it here already, I decided to just use it. he does not have any info about me that I need to hide, so what the hell, I can use my first name if I desire.
Well, Inga, I was busy in another thread and by the time I got here and noticed all this hoopla, any posts containing your full name were deleted. So your name was not posted for a very long time and, like I said, I doubt very much that terrorists halfway around the world are searching the Althouse blog for the names of US troops. They're too busy looking for insults to Mohammad between watching infidel pRon.
So, really, don't worry.
Meanwhile . . .
"(CNN) -- Four days after he was killed, CNN found a journal belonging to late U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens. The journal was found on the floor of the largely unsecured consulate compound where he was fatally wounded."
Wonder what else is left abandoned to whoever comes along. Heckuva job, Barry.
I guess this line of attack on Obama has hit a nerve. The Obamabots are out in hordes.
Jeez.
B- I rarely (tho not never) criticize other commenters here, but I feel compelled to say, you're really creepy in this thread. And I say this as someone who has agreed with some of your comments in the past.
A woman has opinions that you don't agree with, and she obviously doesn't like you. BFD. Are you always so thin-skinned? How difficult that must be for you.
And Inga, if it makes you feel any better, I also missed the postings with your name and personal info.
Allie: I wouldn't worry. I was out for the afternoon and missed seeing your info.
I did a Google search and couldn't find anything in the Google cache. You might want to Google your name tomorrow and see if it's stuck in the cache, but they can be fixed with a little effort.
Personally I suggest, if you are concerned about keeping your identity secret, that you not use your real photograph and not use any part of your real name. That's just a suggestion.
The internet is a terrible place that can keep anything you put on it floating around forever, and the datamining tools are getting better.
To all the latecomers.
The 6:09 comment was the one I made in response to Ingas first one. I left it up for a reason. Her comment is embedded.
Inga deleted a string of comments she made - 7 or 8 in a row - posted after mine after my 6:09 comment. She did so before I told her to delete any. I took down two comments. Not because she asked me to, but because someone else I respect as a commenter did. The rest of what you see about deleting comments from me was mocking her attempts to scour the record.
If you recall, or missed abut have the RSS feed or a screenshot of those 7-8 comments that Inga hopes went down the memory hole, you'll have a better feel for why posted what I did. If not, you might want to consider that your information might be incomplete before opining on the subject.
What does AllieOop, aka oola, have to say about Obama shredding the 1st Amendment to cover up his administrations failing to stop worldwide attacks on US soil and the assassination of an ambassador?
The same thing the ACLU has to say:
"crickets chirping"
I don't know what's worse: this or John Roberts selling out America.
B, do you beat your wife and then say she deserved it? No matter WHAT I said to you, you do not have the moral authority to "punish" a complete stranger to you by posting her REAL Full name, then threatening to post even more personal info if she does not do as you say. Do you really not see what you did? Do you not understand how WRONG it was?
You owe me a huge apology.
Inga, you are a liar.
I told you in response to your insistent delusions, as I have in the past, to ignore my comments as I do yours. That record stands at 6:09. Instead, you chose to indulge in a histrionic string of comments telling me you would harass me every time I commented in response to other parties and there was nothing I could do to prevent that. You scoured that record. Successfully doing so, or thinking you were successful, does not entitle you to any apology.
I am not thin skinned as one commenter suspected. If so, I would have lashed out at the rolecall of morons who jumped me.
I don't comment here often. When I do, I believe the content to far outstrip anything you offer. Other peoples mileage on that opinion may differ. I'm not interested in yours. I tossed you into the bozo bin long ago. But I won't have you try to drown me out.
I gave you the terms at 6:09.
OMG, you need help, I tried to be reasonable with you just now. I know it's very important to you not to lose face here, but the longer you continue in this vein, the more you injure yourself and make yourself appear very small.
I'm trying to help you out here.
B, I removed my comments because you DEMANDED me to, and in hopes that you would delete your comments in which you posted my full real name, as you said you would if I deleted ALL my comments. You have hounded me, insulted me and demeaned me from day one. What is it in your nature that drives you to such behavior?
It's NOT normal, and for your sake I hope you do seek some professional help.
AND, I will continue to stand up for other female commenters that you hound and demean in the same way.
"Inga" is a much hotter name than "allie oop" anyway.
If people would stick to the simple and traditional "fuck you" this could all be avoided. Of course you have to accept the the "fuck you" with decency and respect by returning it in kind. All the rest is just rude and unfit for such a forum, so fuck you all.
So the little whore's true name is Inga.
We should do to her what her leftist brethren do to any right-wing commentator:
publish her address everywhere online, call her up day and night, and pray somebody "SWAT"'s her.
Fuck you, Inga the Obama whore. And fuck your 1st-Amendment-destroying president.
Lord Almighty, we live in crazy times.
Baggy, you can call me Inga honey.
"Lord Almighty, we live in crazy times."
Actually, people haven't changed much since the beginning of time. Only communication has improved for the better ... and worse.
Again, the easiest thing in the world is skipping over posts/posters. Unless one is obsessed. Plus it's a real time saver.
I yield back the balance of my time to Althouse's next nonsensical thread re: Obama restricting someone's free speech.
Lather, rinse, repeat ...
"And are the Feds wrong for wanting to talk to him?"
Then they could have waited till business hours, picked up the damn phone, and called him.
I was grateful to read your post here. This was/is my reaction to the blurring and burying of Chris Stevens' story, as well as the stories of the other murdered US personnel:
http://acravan.blogspot.com/2012/09/player-piano-new-abnormal_18.html
Your comparison of the way the media treated the Stevens story with the Romney 47% tape is so correct, so telling.
Curtis
There was nothing "spontaneous" about these attacks. They were planned & they were launched on the day which would make them sting - 9/11.
You'd think we'd "just know" 9/11 is a day when our embassies/offices/personnel should be alert, that we wouldn't need any special evidence or intelligence information to recognize that the Islamo-fascists would especially like to hit us on the anniversary of their greatest attack (yet) on America. And then you hear that we did, indeed, have such intelligence information ...
The Administration's reaction screams "We screwed up!!!" It was 100% pure C-Y-A bullcrap. They tried to blame someone else, anyone else (we've seen it on this thread ..) - bull. Obama, you own this; happened on your watch. That standard was good enough when you were pinning the original 9/11 on Bush; it's good enough for you now.
Ann ...
It's politics. Unfortunately. The original media blitz - "it's the video" - was a first attempt to deflect all blame. The minions ran out there and willingly parroted that party line (some still are); now they're going to hide behind the "we just can't talk about things which are under investigation, we have to wait and see." Bottom line, the death of an ambassador & three other Americans is "unfortunate" - but not so much so that any of them are going to accept any responsibility. Old Democratic party tradition going at least back to Janet Reno & Waco, which amounts to "I screwed up ... are we done here?"
The reason "nobody cares" is obvious - "caring" would complicate Obama's campaign.
bagoh2o sez...
If people would stick to the simple and traditional "fuck you" this could all be avoided ... so fuck you all ...
Why yes, thank you, from the ranks of teh fuckeded. Peace Out!
The progressives screams of "have you no decency?!?!" fall flat after they (including Inga) have so amply demonstrated they have no decency.
At least B had the decency to warn Inga that if she kept using her speech to harm him, he would retaliate. President Obama didn't give the filmmaker any warning before he had the Justice Dept reveal his identity, name, home address....
Inga,
Does this change your opinion of the way the filmmaker was treated by our govt, or do you still think you are exempt from the consequences of spreading lies in support of your ideology?
My feeling is that what happened was, like other terrorist incidents including Sept 11, carelessness. People asleep at the wheel. Now, before you demand that I investigate and be more and more curious and prove things, I would say that I feel like this is a pattern of yours, to drop something momentous like this, implying all kinds of things, and then leaving us never to hear another word about it again.
I am sympathetic with the view expressed by many that the Democratic line is all that is getting expressed, but for completely different reasons than most of those expressed here.
Honestly, Ann, if Obama himself had been killed - 'scuse me: assassinated - in Libya, I think the same amount of what you see as complacence would exist. Could it be that people's understanding of Libya is of a country in flux - revolution, where all sorts of layers exist, possibilities, bad, good actors, and phases? It's different than, say, Germany or Chile, no?
You implied that there is something else going on. I look forward to reading your blog until you tell us.
Someone else said: "What is even odder is that other Libyans now are rallying and protesting for Stevens and the US and against the militia, and the Administration and the leading MSM do not seem to want to hear about that. "
And yet you did. You heard about it. And I did too. And friends of mine did. And I saw it on TV, and heard about it on the radio. And read about it on the Internet. WTF are you talking about?
This thread serves as a reminder of this old musing of mine: I wonder how many members of the mainstream media post here (and on sites like it) incognito? And then there is this new musing: How difficult would it be to distinguish them from some propagandist for the current administation?
Quite a few.
Very.
A Reasonable Man, you stink like a propagandist. Good work, though, at keeping to your mission.
Nathan Alexander, are you seriously saying what he did was just, ethical and brave? I defended someone he was hounding and being cruel to as he had done to me when I first started commenting here. Perhaps you don't recall the vile personal things has said to me in the past year. It was I who has been harmed by his speech, then and now. Yet you feel his action was justified? You do not understand what he did was WRONG?
You remind me of him. What a sad state of affairs the two parties and ideologies have created. If you cannot see that both parties engage in lies and obfuscation, then you are nothing more than an partisan/ ideological robot.
Inga, try for, just once, honesty. Do you good.
B, I removed my comments because you DEMANDED me to
No Inga. You scoured the string of comments you made between 6 and 7pm on your own, almost immediately (as soon as you thought of it anyway). They were already gone before I mocked the effort by tweaking you to delete the rest. I actually removed my 2 comments before you'd even finished your coverup. At which point you started with the histrionics again.
That's the way you roll. You believe that expunging the record means that you never said it. The casual reader just logging in would have had the impression that I immediately followed my comment at 6:09 with the first one that caused you such a panic without ever see what finally precipitated it.
You have hounded me, insulted me and demeaned me from day one. What is it in your nature that drives you to such behavior?
The content of the comment at 6:09 refutes that lie. That is why I left it up. You opened the ball. Inga, not I, as you've done each time in the past. I just had enough of it.
And please, do not hide behind your gender, or try to promote another lie that I target the ladies here. The record doesn't support that. It's a bid for sympathy you do not deserve. You are responsible for what you write. All of it. Your keyboard does not care about your gender. Nor do I.
Now then. I am done with this. Back into the bozo bin you go. I'll be following my usual practice of ignoring what you post as the content free parroting it usually is. And as I suggested at 6:09 in response to your urge to fuck with me yet again 'you would be wise to ignore my posts as assiduously as I do yours'.
In closing, once again, try a little honesty. You might find it interesting. Certainly novel.
Your version of the truth B is to protect your injured pride. That is the truth, you made yourself look like the abusive bully coward you are. Now go publish my name again. I and my daughter and a few other people are watching and waiting.
Agreed, Inga, that name is about ten thousand times hotter than whatever you were using. Not only does it make you seem sexier but also possibly just a little smarter.
I really seem to have missed the genesis of this Manichaean Inga-B or B-Inga struggle, but I agree the wanton use of truenames is not cricket. That said, you seem to have fucked with someone who has your number, and I think the best thing at this point would be for both of you to go your ways with no further Parthian shots.
B, I trust you will agree to this because as a fellow conservative, I'm sure you realize there are more important issues being discussed here, such as the deflagration or if you prefer the defenestration of our foreign policy, that are being covered up by this spat. Since conservatives are less about ego and more about the big picture, surely you can make this small concession to hurt her no more. And after all, dog does not bite bitch.
Nichevo said...B, I trust you will agree to this
That seems to be what exactly what I suggested yesterday. With all due respect, your suggestion today is misdirected.
And Inga, though I did say I was done, you are still lying. I doubt that with your history of scouring your comments anyone is swallowing your version.
The support you mistakenly think you are being offered here is not in sympathy with you. You are not a sympathetic figure. Liars never are. They are rather criticisms of my tactics. I'll accept that. I am responsible for what I write. All of it. As are you. I let the record of what I write stand. You do not.
And please, knock off the legal threats. You don't have a clue.
B, you lied, you said you would be ignoring my statements, yet you continue, you seriously need to reconsider what you have done and continue to do.
Alley/Oola,
Nathan Alexander raised an interesting point that occurred to me too, one you haven't adressed so far. I recall your not being very sympathetic to what has happened to the youtube fimmaker. Does this change your opinion of the way the filmmaker was treated by our govt?
No it doesn't, not one iota. I am not a criminal, my actions didn't precipitate riots, I am not out on parole.
Inga, as I suggested to B, I'll explicitly suggest to you to drop it and move on to something that anybody besides you is interested in. There is no more satisfaction for you to achieve through this shall we say discourse. You're only drawing more attention to what you consider to be the problem. Rather then harping on your grievance and B's deficiencies, you should drown this unfortunate subtext in a return to the main topic, if that is not too uncomfortable.
What would you consider victory? For B to burn himself alive? He's not going to do that. Neither are you. The problem with mud wrestling with a pig is that you get dirty and the pig enjoys it. B enjoys it. Drop it and move on.
I also find it bitterly amusing that you continue to reserve all the compassion for yourself while having none for the filmmaker, whose total guilt you already seem to have assumed. Do you even attempt to process the arguments of others, or do they just float in one ear and out the other?
Try to get this through your pretty head, Inga: the Muslims are mad irrespective of any film, if it was not this film it would be something else; they like being mad. Your desire to palliate them is as wrong as it is to give into the tantrums of a four year old child. The child must be disciplined with firmness. I would no more trade our first amendment rights for peace, or any other of our rights for peace, than I would throw you to the wolves, even if I could buy a little temporary quiet for myself while they feasted on you.
The problem with mud wrestling with a pig is that you get dirty and the pig enjoys it. B enjoys it.
As noted earlier for those late to the party, unless you have recall or a screenshot, or had an RSS feed, you are not factoring in the string of comments made after 6:09 last night that Inga scoured.
You are both opining and characterizing without all the information/facts/records at your disposal. You are usually more careful than this.
"You are both opining and characterizing without all the information/facts/records at your disposal. You are usually more careful than this."
Pretty sure the point in question is not totally dictated by this individual thread, but by "your" entire history at this blog.
btw, releasing someone's personal info/history ((( for whatever reason ))) at a political blog is about as low as one can get.
Were talkin' whale shit territory! Congrats!
blessings
B, your saying I am usually more careful than this makes me wonder if you have me confused with someone else! But I'll take the compliment at face value, and explain.
I can't, and won't, police the justice between your competing claims of grievance. Personally I think you two should get a room and find out if she likes anal.
What I want is what I said I want: to keep everybody's eyes on the prize, that is to say, on the issue of our foreign policy. You and Inga are a distraction. So I am trying to give you both of your due, and to speak to each of you in a way that each of you will understand.
In a word, I suppose, I am pandering. if there were a private forum where I could speak to each of you separately, I would privately advise each of you to lay off and get back on topic. But I don't have that luxury.
So, B, I am appealing to what I believe to be your sensibilities, and also when I speak to Inga, I attempt to appeal to her sensibilities. As the episode with Saruman at the fall of Isengard shows, it is a difficult act to pull off in company. But pander or no, the truth of it is this: either one or both of you can decide to be the larger person and withdraw from the personal conflict, or else the topic, which I think is more important than most on Althouse, is drowned in further acrimony.
The one red line I think you have crossed is giving her real name. This is unusual on the internet, as I'm sure you know, and I'm not sure the provocation that I've seen was sufficient. Wouldn't it have sufficed to say that she swims out to troopships or whatever? Or if you thought that raising the question of her name was truly appropriate, wouldn't it have been enough to give her initials? What can this little twit have done to. justify your lowering yourself from being a gentleman? Spat instead of swallowed?
I'm trying to say, in a friendly way, that you may have exceeded the bounds of propriety, which as you can see I draw pretty loosely. (And I'm trying to use humor to draw any sting you may feel from my words.)
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