August 31, 2012

624 comments on the live-blogging thread last night.

Did the spam-bots find out I'd turned off word verification for commenting? I'll check it out. There's our liberal commenter Lindsey Meadows, who said (at 6:24 PM):
I think I'll just have casual sex tonight. After Romney, I couldn't possibly feel more violated (or bored).
When Clint Eastwood came on at 9, the liberal commenters, offset by Meade, went ageist:
elkh1 said... Clint is really really wobbly old.

Meade said... Clint looks great.

Alex said... Clint looks old and jittery. Remember folks he's 82. When he was in his 40s, it was scary.... Clint is just embarrassing right now. There is a reason for the old folks home and you're seeing it. Shoot me before I ever get like this. Senile.
2 of the long-time conservative commenters picked up the age theme:
Pogo said... Old, jittery, but vicious as hell.

Shouting Thomas said... Unfortunately, Clint is really struggling. Sad to see the great man suffering the humiliation of old age.

Pogo said... No way, ST, he's an elderly man whose body betrays him a bit, but he's hitting a million right notes. Hurrah!
What I liked about Clint's routine — which you had to trust not to feel nervous about — was when he said "We own this country... Politicians are employees of ours... When somebody does not do the job, we've got to let them go." As I said in this post, this was a play on something Romney said, something that's been used against Romney: "I like being able to fire people." Clint imposed the correct interpretation on that: When somebody does not do the job, we've got to let them go.

I didn't say much about Romney's speech last night, because I was way too tired by then. Our liberal friend Alex said: "ROmney talking too much about his family and church. Where are the policy initiatives? Obama is going to be speech-ifying policy like crazy next week." (Yeah, lotsa policy wonkery, that would have kept me awake.)

And our liberal Lindsey said: "I just watched Mitten with the sound on...sound on/sound off...same amount of policy specifics. Meade must be in seventh heaven." Oh, she wants policy too. If only they'd have bored us all to tears all week with specifics.

Shouting Thomas continued his lugubriousness:
Romney played small ball. I think that's what we need. He doesn't have an overriding theme, only the promise that he has the technical and managerial skills to lead.

Obama will promise social justice and payoffs to his favored groups.

The debates should be interesting.
Meade responded:
Exactly right. What we need now is boring small ball competence. Time to put obama's failed presidency behind us. Romney will be a fine president.
Lindsey with the liberal lady's focus on sex not baseball had no trouble seeing the opportunity to say:
Well by all appearances, you got a guy with small balls. I was actually hoping that all the non-policy fluff was just to woo the far right but I am now pretty locked into that being all he has. Sad really.
If a man had said something equivalently sexual about a woman, Democrats would cry "war on women." If that kind of rhetoric is okay, we ought to call out Lindsey for her "war on men."

Ah! No spam. Maybe some not-so-admirable comments in there, but nothing robotic, and so Morning on the Althouse Blog continues (i.e., no word verification for commenting). And I just want to say one thing about this supposed lack of policy specifics from the GOP and the implication of Democratic superiority on said specifics. I mean I want to quote something from Paul Ryan's speech:
[President Obama] created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. 
It was loaded with specifics.
He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.
Ryan put a long pause between "did" — the action word — and "exactly nothing."

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Known Unknown said...

Can Obama pick and choose [oh noes!] when/where/which GM plants can operate?

Apparently, the NLRB tries to have that power.

Love said...

roesch/voltaire - C'mon...you're wasting your time arguing with Meade (of all people) about whether we're failing in Iraq or if some Americans want us to fail?

It's a tad late for any of that...we never should of been there in the first place, years from now Americans won't be able to even remember why we were there (Bush & The Neocons)...and how exactly would any real "success" be defined?

And you had to love lstening to Condi...giving lessons in life about internationall affairs...after being right there in the middle of it whan Bush and Cheney and Rummy lauched their grand scheme.

Known Unknown said...

That we can still buy fuel and food is a monument to his ability.

Lindsey relies on emotional hyperbole to make her arguments.

rcommal said...

And here I thought the whole "not-report report" stuff was the funniest thing in this thread.

Nope!

Lindsey's "That we can still buy fuel and food is a monument to his ability" takes that prize.

LOL.

Sofa King said...

Good question: Can Obama pick and choose [oh noes!] when/where/which GM plants can operate? I don't know the answer.

Not directly, but as the majority share holder, the could - and did - hire executives that would make coporate decisions in line with the administration's preferences.

Love said...

Dr. Wheeler - Is asslicker a medical term...or are you interested getting together?

And keep in mind...you may not be able to squeeze my huge balls into that tiny head of yours.

Bob Ellison said...

Love said "What does your quote have to do with a group of far right wing nutcases stumbling into being called teabaggers?"

I'm going to go on the assumption that you really don't understand this. I don't want to sound like a school teacher. It's just easier assuming that you really mean what you say.

The "tea-bagger" thing was a leftist comment, bizarrely using a gay metaphor, used, apparently they thought, to harm the tea-partiers. That much is obvious, but evidently not to you.

The quote I used above was a joke, probably not a good one, about your repeated attempts to prove that cut-and-paste is reality.

Love said...

Now THIS is funny...considering all of the foaming at the mouth slobbering over Paul Ryan we see here:

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) couldn't address why vice-presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) attacked a $716 billion Medicare reduction from the Affordable Care Act during his acceptance speech after Ryan included the cuts in his own budget.

In an interview with Fortune magazine published Thursday, Cantor was asked about Ryan proposing his own budget to turn Medicare into a quasi-voucher system, using the same cuts he called a cold "power play" by Democrats during his Republican National Convention speech on Wednesday.

"The assumption was that, um, the, the, ah, again — I probably can't speak to that in an exact way so I better just not," he said.

Alex said...

Wow, I've made it to the BIG TIME. Multiple comment quotes!

BTW - I am not a liberal, why does Ann think that I am?

Dr Weevil said...

I'm interested in getting you to stop the insults and stop the lies and stop the hypocrisy, 'Love'. Is it really too much to ask to request that you stop calling people 'teabaggers', stop pretending that the Tea Partiers started that particular theme, and stop acting as if it's OK for your side to use any language they want, while demanding civility from the other side?

Then again, if you're trying to help Obama lose, you're going about it the right way, so maybe I should be glad that you're such an hypocritical moron. Since you don't object to the term, I'll add "small-balled".

Roger J. said...

Dr Weevil: first rule of pig wrestling.

Love said...

Bob Ellison - "The "tea-bagger" thing was a leftist comment, bizarrely using a gay metaphor, used, apparently they thought, to harm the tea-partiers. That much is obvious, but evidently not to you."

Are you saying these are "leftists?"

http://media.reason.com/mc/jwalker/2009_10/teabagging.jpg?h=225&w=300

Alex said...

BTW - it's well known that I play devil's advocate on this blog for years. I've made my true philosophy known many times. I'm a pragmatic libertarian.

Bob Ellison said...

Love, I don't love you. I'm not gonna lie about that. But really, you would have a happier life if you faced reality at some point.

Love said...

Dr. Wheeler - Considering the insane attacks the right wing has inflicted on President Obama from the day he was elected (Muslim, Communist, Socialist, etc.), and of course, Romney's birther comment just last week...you really feel we should do what we can to "stop the insults?"

It's okay to denigrate the President of the United States, but not respond to an "asslicker" comment from YOU?

Get real, Dude.

Love said...

Bob Ellison - I believe President Obama has done a good job, especially considering the hand he was dealt. I also think were in for a long, bumpy ride before things get much better...after all...we're talking about the biggest (worlwide) recession since the Great Depression here...and of course...it began in December of 2007, 13 months BEFORE Obama became the President...correct?

You obviously disagree, and I'll bet you also voted for G. W. Bush...twice.

So who exactly is the one not facing "reality" here??

Love said...

Why do so many here think that President Obama, or for that matter, any president...could turn the kind of massive worldwide recession we're experiencing...around to their liking, in a matter of four years?

There are many countries throughout Europe that are have all kinds of problems...are the leaders of those countries somehow tied to President Obama?

Are they all stupid?

Why, if it is indeed somehow President Obama's failt...aren't these other countries once again thriving economically?

Is everybodyu waiting for Mitt to save the day?

Bob Ellison said...

Love, wanna put some money down?

No, let me help you. I voted for Obama, largely for the same reasons the Professor has stated.

shiloh said...

"Love, wanna put some money down?"

Ten thousand?

Bob Ellison said...

shiloh, you good for that?

shiloh said...

btw, after one has run out of rational talkin' pts. a silly wager usually follows ...

Brian Brown said...

garage mahal said...
Good question: Can Obama pick and choose [oh noes!] when/where/which GM plants can operate?


The White House picked which GM dealerships to close.

shiloh said...

B E, my $$$ manager says I'm fiscally sound according to my off shore accts. in the Cayman's, Switzerland, and the Seychelles no less. :)

Dr Weevil said...

First, my name's not "Wheeler". Making that mistake twice makes 'Love' look really stupid.

Second, I would have thought it was obvious that "asslicker" is no more obscene than "teabagger". Both refer to sexual practices that most Americans have never tried or wanted to try, and even fewer (I suspect) have tried more than once. The difference is that most people had never heard of "teabagging" as a sexual practice before Democrats started using it as an insult for Tea Partiers, which makes "teabagger" arguably more insulting than "asslicker", which is (that's my point, duh!) pretty damned insulting.

Third, 'Love' keeps linking to the same picture to prove what I have already said more than once: yes, some on the right have gotten tired of being subjected to a vile sexual insult over and over and have replied in kind by aiming it back at the left. Why the Hell shouldn't they? The left started it, and if they insist (as so many do) on repeatedly insulting and degrading the right in vile ways even when asked to stop, some on the right will naturally and quite appropriately reply in kind, as I have done to the asslicker 'Love'. Does she get it yet? All signs point to 'no'.

Now 'Love' claims to be "responding" to my "asslicker" insult, entirely forgetting that that was explicitly a response to her totally gratuitous, equally offensive, and repeated "teabagger" insults. How fucking stupid is 'Love'? Again, she doesn't think that insults aimed left-to-right count, somehow, so insults sent back the other way come as a terrible shock.

Bob Ellison said...

No, I'm serious. I'm good for it. I think casual betting among individuals is still legal in this country. You good for it? I am. I'll take that bet. Ten thousand dollars on the election? That might actually be illegal. Not sure.

shiloh said...

B E, I'm good for it.

Now "we" know each other's financial situation and how B E is very foolish w/his $$$.

Passive/aggressiveness on the internet aside ...

Roger J. said...

Dr Weevil--Love/Jeremy/lucky old sun is a dude.

Bob Ellison said...

OK, shiloh, so here's the proposition:

$10,000 is the bet

If Barack Obama wins re-election, you win.

If Romney wins, I win.

Got it? I'll take it. I'll post a bond. You with me?

Love said...

Dr. Whiner - Sorry about the wrong name thingie.

Please forgive me...and if that asslicker thingie is still on, let me know.

Roger J. said...

Shilo/Bob Ellison: I am in receipt of an escrow fund in Nigeria--It is worth millions. Since both of you are well heeled enough, for the paltry sum of 5K apiece I will forward you the account number. :)

Dr Weevil said...

Roger J:
Are you sure? I see no evidence of manliness in the things 'Love' posts, or humanity for that matter. Will he, she, or it knock off the 'teabagger' comments? Or address any of the actual arguments made? Or correct the lie about the Bowles-Simpson report getting no Democratic votes? Or generally start arguing like a grownup? We shall see.

Dr Weevil said...

Love:
Sorry, you seem really eager to lick someone's ass, but you're going to have to try Craigslist or something. I'm not really into that kind of thing, and even if I were I'd worry about what diseases I might catch from your foul tongue.

Roger J. said...

Dr Weevil--dont know how long you have been on the blog, but lucky old son/jeremy/love has been around for years--same MO. Ignore him. Trolls, and Love is an accomplished troll, do not thrive without attention.

DADvocate said...

Obamacare isn't the death of the republic. It is our entrance into the civilized world.

No. We will enter the civilzied world when we equalize housing conditions between high income earners and lower income earners. What's your house like? I might deserve a share of it.

shiloh said...

"I'm not really into that kind of thing"

Dr. W, don't be so modest!

hombre said...

Love bleated: Hombre - Didn't Ryan vote against the Simpson-Bowles proposal? Duh. 12:34

So? Was Ryan the President who appointed the commission and had promised "to cut our deficit in half?" Oh, and didn't Erskine Bowles -- you know of Bowles and Simpson -- praise Ryan and his budget in 2011 while noting that nobody took Obama's budget seriously.

Nice try.

Synova said...

Funny thing how early voting gets to be a *race* issue when the issue is, are the rules the same for everyone?

But the additional accommodations aren't about race. They're about something like, for example, military who are deployed.

So the shorter hours or limits or whatever apply equally to all of everyone else. No matter who they are.

But making it about preventing, for example, military who are deployed from having a little extra cushion for getting their ballots in, would be a political loser.

So it becomes, deceptively, spun to be about limiting hours for people who don't have any particular special circumstance and who do have early voting available to them. But we're supposed to believe aren't as capable as the white people who have the exact same rules.

When what it really is is yet another Democratic attempt to keep more soldier's votes from counting.

Bob Ellison said...

shiloh, how about ten dollars? At some low point, my interest wanes.

Anonymous said...

This election is an election about faith: faith in God and the American people vs faith in the One who has never kept his promises and the "intellect of the Democratic Party", the body behind the grin.

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furious_a said...

Love: ...somebody else built that...

You know CRTL-C and CTRL-V? Here's a sticker!

The President "peed in the pool" -- the context only makes it worse. The president's demeanour when he says the especially deadly words makes it even worse still. Worser, even. Ears of tin, the man has. He should never, ever, walk away from his teleprompter.

That video is Pres. Obama's own Dukakis-tank-ride (unless VP Biden provides another AFHV moment). It's the oppo campaign ad that will keep writing itself all the way to "I, Mitt Romney, do solemnly swear...".

By all means, keep digg...I mean, clarifying. Aloha.

Anonymous said...

oh friggin' whatever. michigan state is on TV. my hubby made a gallon of martinis (bombay, up, neat). I made salsa. we have chips.
all is right with the world.

you all just have at each other. i'm gonna snuggle.

furious_a said...

Garage: When Paul Ryan wanted to save the Janesville plant from closing in 2008, he wrote a letter to GM. Why didn't he send it to Bush?

The US Gov't wasn't the majority-stake shareholder (61%, remember?) at the time.

furious_a said...

Garage: So you're saying it should be reopened?

"...for 100 years", Garage! Just like then-candidate Obama promised, then promised again.

Kirk Parker said...

"   'I was president of my sorority   "

"This explains much."

Yeah, it was Sigma Alpha Choom.

Bob Ellison said...

shiloh?

Bob Ellison said...

shiloh, you don't have to be bold with money. You can be a coward. It's OK. "I'm a coward." Learn it and love it.

Bob Ellison said...

shiloh, give you an example, show you what I mean. Suppose you're thinking about Obama being re-elected. Suddenly someone'll say that's crazy. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

Bob Ellison said...

But I'm not mocking anyone. No, wait; I am!

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