Speaking of squares. Apparently women find happy looking men to be squares (i.e. not sexually attractive): http://bit.ly/lbQA45
"The study found that women were least attracted to smiling, happy men, preferring those who looked proud and powerful or moody and ashamed. In contrast, male participants were most sexually attracted to women who looked happy, and least attracted to women who appeared proud and confident."
I'd love to get Althouse and Co's take on this study.
Here we have someone openly calling for the President's death (not like the fake reports of screaming at tea party rallies). Not a peep from Garage or AL.
The Lefties have got a few catcalls for the Easy Rider, but don't expect people who get their talking points from Kos to say anything until Kos makes up his mind.
PS I've been getting a weird message all day trying to post a comment:
Internal error delivering your message about the blog.
Don't know if it's the Google ID or something on my end (possible, but I don't think so). If you've gotten the same thing, you can always put up in a cafe what happens when/if it goes away for the rest of us.
Andrew, everything you need to know about that study is evident in this passage:
The researchers say more work is needed to understand the differing responses to happiness, but suggest the phenomenon can also be understood according to principles of evolutionary psychology, as well as socio-cultural gender norms.
So...it's innate but also not innate? This is known as 'covering all your bases because you're making shit up and don't want to be called out on your made-up bullcrap.'
I don't think it takes a research grant to discover that men with goofy smiles and mopey, depressed women aren't sexually attractive. The sexual allure of strong, silent type males and upbeat, happy women is historically and anecdotally well documented. This study only demonstrated what common knowledge already knew. And now they'll want more money to try to figure out the cause of it.
Looks like a government redevelopment project to me. Most likely state.
It reminds me of similar squares in multiple towns in a state I once lived in. One town had a serious and very pressing issue and fought hard to use their money for other than sprucing up the town square and Main Street sidewalks.
They lost. "Take the money and use it for what we tell you to use it for, or you don't get the money."
Very similar to high speed train money from the federal government to the states, wouldn't you say?
I got that this morning. Had to go re sign-in at Google for it to work properly.
It took me a number of tries. As these things pop up, we ought to use the cafes to warn other people - not to the exclusion of other things, of course, but, as Ann can attest, we need to watch out for Google.
The study may deserve your denigration for one reason or another, but you seem to accept its conclusion that women find happy men less attractive, while men find happy women more attractive. I wouldn't have found this to be an obvious point. The study doesn't provide any basis as to why genders view particular emotions differently (i.e. whether it's cultural or biological), but it doesn't need to in order be an interesting topic.
If the results are to be accepted, men are encouraged by women to avoid showing happiness, while the opposite is true for women. I thought this had the potential to be an Althousian topic--and was interested in seeing where she might take it--but perhaps its not.
...but you seem to accept its conclusion that women find happy men less attractive, while men find happy women more attractive.
That's not what the study found at all, and that's not what I'm agreeing with. The study made a very narrow, pointed observation: Men are sexually attracted to feminine displays of happiness and women are sexually attracted to masculine displays of pride and somberness.
However, moving past first impressions (which is all the study assessed), men and women are attracted to far more varying things. As far as long-term compatibility is concerned there is no telling what individual people find attractive. This is plainly obvious to anyone who's ever gone on a date with someone they had an instant attraction to at first sight, but once they get to know them they find them uninteresting to downright repulsive.
I think the confusion comes from conflating eros and philos. I find the detached, strong, silent type males erotically attractive, but I would never start a relationship with that type.
I don't think it takes a research grant to discover that men with goofy smiles and mopey, depressed women aren't sexually attractive. The sexual allure of strong, silent type males and upbeat, happy women is historically and anecdotally well documented.
I watched "Bedazzled" again the other night. Pretty funny.
So...it's innate but also not innate? This is known as 'covering all your bases because you're making shit up and don't want to be called out on your made-up bullcrap.'
Er, it is also called "not leaping to conclusions when there are multiple plausible explanations for a phenomenon".
We were self-taught in the sixties to award ourselves merit for membership in a superior group–irrespective of our group’s accomplishments. We continue to do so, irrespective of accomplishments, individual or communal, having told each other we were special. We learned that all one need do is refrain from trusting anybody over thirty; that all people are alike, and to judge their behavior was “judgmental”; that property is theft. As we did not investigate these assertions or their implications, we could not act upon them and felt no need to do so. For we were the culmination of history, superior to all those misguided who had come before, which is to say all humanity.
The book is not out yet but I'm deducing this 'transformation of the culture' has greatly contributed to the dismantling of the enterprise.. and I dont mean the fictitious one ;)
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63 comments:
A lot of dogs must have peed on that fire hydrant.
Red meat alert!!!
Did Obama really think that today was May 24, 2008???
It's at the official Getty Images site, but maybe someone else wrote the date in incorrectly.
"Fie, fie how franticly I squared my talk!"
Flatland
Edward Abbott. 1884
Pogo, I liked Flatland.
Or Shakespeare.
Whatevs.
@Fred:
Yeah, tho it's been ages.
That quote came from Titus ...Andronicus
Red meat alert!!!
Did Obama really think that today was May 24, 2008???
It's at the official Getty Images site, but maybe someone else wrote the date in incorrectly.
For Obama, it's always 2008.
This is rather sad and funny. The sad part is it is not that far removed from the truth.
Bibi Bibi he's our man, if he can't do it, nobody can!
Message from AF-1: Hold on, Joplin, we'll be home by Sunday. Promise.
Speaking of squares. Apparently women find happy looking men to be squares (i.e. not sexually attractive): http://bit.ly/lbQA45
"The study found that women were least attracted to smiling, happy men, preferring those who looked proud and powerful or moody and ashamed. In contrast, male participants were most sexually attracted to women who looked happy, and least attracted to women who appeared proud and confident."
I'd love to get Althouse and Co's take on this study.
Defense: "Caylee Anthony drowned in family pool."
Facts: No cause of death. No fingerprints. No DNA.
Nancy Grace placed on heart monitor.
Peter Fonda anyone? Hip or square?
Here we have someone openly calling for the President's death (not like the fake reports of screaming at tea party rallies). Not a peep from Garage or AL.
The Lefties have got a few catcalls for the Easy Rider, but don't expect people who get their talking points from Kos to say anything until Kos makes up his mind.
PS I've been getting a weird message all day trying to post a comment:
Internal error delivering your message about the blog.
Don't know if it's the Google ID or something on my end (possible, but I don't think so). If you've gotten the same thing, you can always put up in a cafe what happens when/if it goes away for the rest of us.
Just sayin'.
Stupid parents destroying their children's childhoods.
Ed-
I got that this morning. Had to go re sign-in at Google for it to work properly.
Andrew, everything you need to know about that study is evident in this passage:
The researchers say more work is needed to understand the differing responses to happiness, but suggest the phenomenon can also be understood according to principles of evolutionary psychology, as well as socio-cultural gender norms.
So...it's innate but also not innate? This is known as 'covering all your bases because you're making shit up and don't want to be called out on your made-up bullcrap.'
I don't think it takes a research grant to discover that men with goofy smiles and mopey, depressed women aren't sexually attractive. The sexual allure of strong, silent type males and upbeat, happy women is historically and anecdotally well documented. This study only demonstrated what common knowledge already knew. And now they'll want more money to try to figure out the cause of it.
Did Obama really think that today was May 24, 2008???
It's at the official Getty Images site, but maybe someone else wrote the date in incorrectly.
Yahoo! has reported it as his gaffe. I like how he left room for Michelle to sign.
@E.M. Davis:
Thx for the tip!
I had the same error message.
The Matrix done got the shakes.
Did Obama really think that today was May 24, 2008???
Let's do the Time Warp again!!
Dammit DBQ.
Now that's gonna be in my head for a week.
Looks like a government redevelopment project to me. Most likely state.
It reminds me of similar squares in multiple towns in a state I once lived in. One town had a serious and very pressing issue and fought hard to use their money for other than sprucing up the town square and Main Street sidewalks.
They lost. "Take the money and use it for what we tell you to use it for, or you don't get the money."
Very similar to high speed train money from the federal government to the states, wouldn't you say?
If one were to judge the success of this project by how well it infused life and commerce to this town, we might even say it was an ill-advised flop.
Course maybe Althouse asked the teeming crowds to step aside while she took her photograph.
If only it were 2008 and we could have a mulligan.
What if you're Hip to Be Square?
Apologies in advance.
Garage? AL? Bobby Cook? RITMO?
Any condemnation of Peter Fonda?
That's the sound of crickets.
E.M. Davis said...
Ed-
I got that this morning. Had to go re sign-in at Google for it to work properly.
It took me a number of tries. As these things pop up, we ought to use the cafes to warn other people - not to the exclusion of other things, of course, but, as Ann can attest, we need to watch out for Google.
My free porn website has just recently downloaded quite a bit of Japanese porn onto it's site.
It's weird. They fuzz out the genital area of the Japs. Not that I care that much because I am not a rice queen but I wind it odd.
Also, on my free porn website while I am watching my porn some chick pops on and is doing naughty stuff on a cam.
Coketown,
The study may deserve your denigration for one reason or another, but you seem to accept its conclusion that women find happy men less attractive, while men find happy women more attractive. I wouldn't have found this to be an obvious point. The study doesn't provide any basis as to why genders view particular emotions differently (i.e. whether it's cultural or biological), but it doesn't need to in order be an interesting topic.
If the results are to be accepted, men are encouraged by women to avoid showing happiness, while the opposite is true for women. I thought this had the potential to be an Althousian topic--and was interested in seeing where she might take it--but perhaps its not.
edutcher, I got the same message at home. Google is screwing around again.
May 24, 2008???
there's been a 3000% teutonic shift in the time/space continuum
The civility bullshit is going global...
Bibi Bibi he's our man, if he can't do it, nobody can!
Ha, ha. Netanyahu has sinned against the Holy Ghost, and will not be forgiven. Leftists will hate him for the rest of his life.
Netanyahu has sinned against the Holy Ghost, and will not be forgiven. Leftists will hate him for the rest of his life.
Conservatives is weird.
Hey Garage;
It is called an allusion. Not that I expected you to get it.
I get it. You're still weird.
Perhaps. But you are still dumb.
"Women find happy guys significantly less sexually attractive than swaggering or brooding men."
If you go on Match.com, you'll find 95% of women state they want "someone who makes me laugh." That's really the most common desired attribute.
Women want a brooding funny man.
Women want a brooding funny man.
Larry David is one lucky dude.
Netanyahu/Putin 2012!
Oath Keepers will protest the Tucson SWAT shooting.
I'm impressed with Oath Keepers. Very, very impressed.
And Woody Allen.
Remember last week when Lars Von Trier, the Danish film director, was kicked out of Cannes for his crass and verbose remarks???
Well, someone has now spoken up for him: the Culture Ministry of Iran.
So garage, what's the word from your camp re: Kloppenburg?
Will she sue?
What edutcher said.
Goodgle is the spawn of HAL.
Sue?
This is what democracy looks like!
LOL
... you can be hip or square. Or not starchily ideological...
All the ambiance of a prison exercise yard.
Bleak.
...but you seem to accept its conclusion that women find happy men less attractive, while men find happy women more attractive.
That's not what the study found at all, and that's not what I'm agreeing with. The study made a very narrow, pointed observation: Men are sexually attracted to feminine displays of happiness and women are sexually attracted to masculine displays of pride and somberness.
However, moving past first impressions (which is all the study assessed), men and women are attracted to far more varying things. As far as long-term compatibility is concerned there is no telling what individual people find attractive. This is plainly obvious to anyone who's ever gone on a date with someone they had an instant attraction to at first sight, but once they get to know them they find them uninteresting to downright repulsive.
I think the confusion comes from conflating eros and philos. I find the detached, strong, silent type males erotically attractive, but I would never start a relationship with that type.
I don't think it takes a research grant to discover that men with goofy smiles and mopey, depressed women aren't sexually attractive. The sexual allure of strong, silent type males and upbeat, happy women is historically and anecdotally well documented.
I watched "Bedazzled" again the other night. Pretty funny.
Larry David is one lucky dude.
That's not brooding. That's Judaism.
Hamlet, now that Dane could brood. Funny? Not so much.
So garage, what's the word from your camp re: Kloppenburg?
New episode of Deadliest Catch on just now.
New episode of Deadliest Catch on just now.
I'll take that as an indication that Kloppenburg endorses fishing expeditions.
So...it's innate but also not innate? This is known as 'covering all your bases because you're making shit up and don't want to be called out on your made-up bullcrap.'
Er, it is also called "not leaping to conclusions when there are multiple plausible explanations for a phenomenon".
I had never seen Obama's signature. It's basically B scribble O scribble.
I think I would have toned down the B O. I would have put the H in the middle too.
I also know what year it is.
Jet lag?...on AirForce 1?
This Obama feller is out-of-touch!!
I had never seen Obama's signature.
It's here, with a brief analysis.
From David Mamet's new book 'The Secret Knowledge On the Dismantling of American Culture'
We were self-taught in the sixties to award ourselves merit for membership in a superior group–irrespective of our group’s accomplishments. We continue to do so, irrespective of accomplishments, individual or communal, having told each other we were special. We learned that all one need do is refrain from trusting anybody over thirty; that all people are alike, and to judge their behavior was “judgmental”; that property is theft. As we did not investigate these assertions or their implications, we could not act upon them and felt no need to do so. For we were the culmination of history, superior to all those misguided who had come before, which is to say all humanity.
The book is not out yet but I'm deducing this 'transformation of the culture' has greatly contributed to the dismantling of the enterprise.. and I dont mean the fictitious one ;)
I suppose that means we all need to check in with our opinions too, Lem?
Hey. Here, and I have one!
Not gonna tell you though.
Least not yet.
Gotta give it a day or two.
I'm all for holding back in order to give "phat" folks a head start at the fashionable reconstruction.
Red scarf. Or blue scarf?
This is America!
All we know is that our scarves will never, EVER be cinched at the waist again.
We're just too darn fat for that.
As for Mamet? If I am to believe the "phat" folks, he moved his armband from his left arm to his right arm.
And with little warning to his fans.
Sadly, he gave nary a nod or a word as to how his waist had somehow become too fat for a sash around the middle....If only as a halfway point.
My guess? Mamet wasn't ready to "trim the fringe" on that scarf.
And soon enough, he will be totally out of fashion.
What a pity.
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