(That's the video I was promising to deliver, back in this post.)
The tall sign says: "I'm a doctor. Need a note?"
February 19, 2011
"So you're really providing real doctor's notes for people that miss work?"
"I thought this was a little street theater..."
(That's the video I was promising to deliver, back in this post.)
The tall sign says: "I'm a doctor. Need a note?"
(That's the video I was promising to deliver, back in this post.)
The tall sign says: "I'm a doctor. Need a note?"
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Right. People should be in front of these doctor's homes protesting.
It's possible the entire state of WI is corrupt, including the State Medical Board, but even then it would be worth it to gum up the system by making lots of work for them.
But I suspect there are still good and decent doctors on that board who take their charge seriously.
Mary said: "I live near Madison and, according to all the posted notices I've seen, schools were closed, but teachers were required to come in."
I didn't see many cars in the parking lots of the schools I went by, except the schools where they parked to head down to the protest. Whether or not they showed up, we still paid the teachers for 3 days of non-instruction. Criminal.
Some of the doctors are Anne Eglash, Hannah Keevil, James Shropshire, Patrick McKenna and Lou Sanner.
Eglash's license number is 36055-20
Keevil is 33734-20
Sanner's is 29389-20
Shropshire's is 33770-20
Mckenna's is 53640-20
Alinsky them!
Live by Alinsky, die by Alinski.
MadisonMan said...
No, but you convert them into months of health care. I think a week of sicktime -- 5 months accumulation
For the record MM, I'm ok with that sort of cash in, though you guys get too much sick time.
What is Absurd, is using say 20 years of sick days, which would be 240 days by my math and using it to raise a final year pay from 120k to 240k, then get a 90% pension on that 240k, i.e. 216k a year for the next 30 years. Some Police in Calfornia and NYC do that with sick-leave
What is Absurd, is using say 20 years of sick days, which would be 240 days by my math and using it to raise a final year pay from 120k to 240k, then get a 90% pension on that 240k, i.e. 216k a year for the next 30 years. Some Police in Calfornia and NYC do that with sick-leave.
I don't know if that is any worse than what I saw when I worked for the federal government, which was using it for retiring a year early. Sick leave accumulated when someone was earning $20k was used when they were earning $100k.
Which is why most companies I know of in the private sector consider sick leave non-accumulative. I think there, it is much more prevalent that employees can accumulate vacation pay instead. And, even then, there tend to be limits at how much you can carry forward.
IF we're getting the union employees to burn their sick days, then we're doing ourselves a favor. Most of them save them up and get a lump sum payout at retirement.
But the value of those days goes up when they aren't used. So, if a young teacher is earning a sick day at $20 an hour now, she'll get that sick day paid at the rate she's earning when she retires, which will undoubtedly be much more.
Some of the doctors involved have now been identified and quoted in the press. I've got some links over at Tatler.
2) If your complaint involves a health care profession, you may also print out the Consent For Release of Information Form and fill in the appropriate information. Completion of this form is voluntary.
How left wing of Fen to advocate third parties interfere with the sacred doctor-patient relationship. I am truly shocked.
Fls: How left wing of Fen to advocate third parties interfere with the sacred doctor-patient relationship. I am truly shocked.
I'm truly shocked you stand with thuggery, fraud and scumbaggery.
by taking advantage of their state-granted doctor's license
Another lefty demanding government control of the medical profession!
C'mon sheeple: that way leads only to death panels.
I'm truly shocked you stand with thuggery, fraud and scumbaggery.
I am not competent to second-guess an MD, if that's what you mean. If you wonder why I am still a registered Republican, it is to keep the two-party system alive -- DBQ cannot do it alone.
A week? In the private sector, its 3 days. Or be fired.
Does fen work? Doesn't sound like he's familiar with the sick day process.
One place I worked in the Devonian era had a policy that failing to call in for three days could get you fired. But if you couldn't function they would take your word for it.
Oops.
"With that being said, there are some potential problems for the university and the department. Patrick McKenna is identified on the UW DFM staff and directory page as a PGY 3. This is a resident in his 3 and final year of post graduate training and as such cannot operate independently as the Department of Medical Education is responsible for his actions."
I'm guessing that hospital legal wasn't consulted.
Primary Care Clerkship
Welcome to the Primary Care Clerkship: Family Medicine, General Internal Medicine, General Pediatrics (PCC).
The primary goals of the clerkship are to better understand the work of primary care physicians, their interactions with community and other health professionals, common primary care conditions, and strategies for enhancing communication with patients.
In the spirit of the Wisconsin Idea—that the boundaries of the campus are the boundaries of the state—students have opportunities to learn from patients and doctors in Minoqua, Eau Claire, La Crosse, Appleton, Green Bay, Fond du Lac, Milwaukee, and Madison.
The primary learning activity of the clerkship is working one-on-one with primary care preceptors in their offices. We are thankful and fortunate to have a group of outstanding community physicians who are dedicated to teaching the next generation. Weekly small group sessions complement this hands-on learning, and help students assess their growth in communication skills.
@Drill Sgt
Some Police in Calfornia and NYC do that with sick-leave
Meanwhile in the CA private sector, at-will workers cannot roll over the state mandated sick leave...it's use it or lose it.
@fls
Clerkship? WTF are you rabbiting on about now?
That has nothing to do with doctor's practicing on street corners...which I'm pretty sure is illegal in WI.
I simply want to contribute this thought. We have a problem at the college level with absenteeism - students not showing up. Many teachers employ an attendance policy that allows an excused absence from class with a medical excuse. It's not fair to those who do show up for classes to allow those who do not to be excused with some kind of bogus - not to be trusted, in any case - medical excuse in writing. This is what we ask for - a written medical note. We do assume that this note came from a physician who understands that her note will allow the patient asking for the note a workplace - or in my case, instructional - exemption from rules that govern the workplace or, in my case, classroom policies.
If a medical note from a doctor has no such meaning - if trust has been lost in its veracity or ethos - it becomes essentially meaningless. Therefore, I suppose we would no longer extend this provision for really sick students - or workers - from our attendance policies.
This just seems to make sense to me. I could never see a doctor's excuse with their medical license on it as street theater because .....you know....they are real doctors. Now if my cousin the party clown had done it, I would think it very clever.
Am I off base completely here?
BTW - I completely support the union protests but this one area really does bother me ethically. I think it should ethically bother all of us.
Hi Ann -
I have only posted here once before (several times) but I never assigned myself the avatar of nun. Curious as to how this came to be the next time I posted (kind of smarmy...creepy, actually - because my only other comments were about the Everyone Draw Mohamed discussion where I identified myself as a Catholic).
Ewwww. What goes on here? YOU pick an avatar for your commenters?
I'm a NY physician.
I sent the following e-mail to my physician colleagues, hundreds of others, and also sent copies to Drs Patrick McKenna, Hanna (Holly) Keevil and Lou Sanner..who have been identified as partipating "physicians".
"The following are links to videos of physicians in Wisconsin handing out fake medical excuses to public employee union members in Wisconsin who are skipping work to demonstrate against the new GOP governor's cost cutting measures that would make them pay more of their own health insurance and pension costs.
http://mediatrackers.org/2011/02/doctors-help-teachers-to-lie-about-being-sick/
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/02/so-youre-really-providing-real-doctors.html
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/02/19/doctor-explains-fake-sick-medical-note/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wisconsin-protest-update-doctors-handing-out-%E2%80%9Csick-notes%E2%80%9D-to-union-protesters/
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/19/video-doctors-handing-out-fake-medical-excuses-at-wi-union-protest/
http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/02/fake-doctors-notes-being-handed-out-at-wisconsin-gov-union-rally/
http://mediatrackers.org/2011/02/i-went-to-madison-and-all-i-got-was-a-lousy-fake-doctors-note/
I'm a physician myself, licensed to practice in New York and Pennsylvania.
If I caught a fellow physician doing this..I would have absolutely no problem with testifying in court that this is probable fraud..and definitely a violation of medical ethics.
Want to talk about shooting your cause in the foot?
If these demonstrators in Wisconsin and the physicians who are LYING to assist them... thought they had the moral high ground..they just lost it...before the whole country.
What total morons!
Feel free to share these videos with anyone you care to."
The following are links to videos of physicians in Wisconsin handing out fake medical excuses to public employee union members in Wisconsin who are skipping work to demonstrate against the new GOP governor's cost cutting measures that would make them pay more of their own health insurance and pension costs.
livfreeordi is a Goddamned, barefaced liar.
He knows nothing of the complaints the patients have, so he cannot possibly characterize the medical excuses as fake. There is nothing more sacred than the doctor-patient relationship, which at any rate is privileged from buttinskis like "livfreeordi." Who, unlike his name, is a freekin' control freak.
Further, he has no knowledge of the doctors' patients, their employers, or their union membership, if any.
Now there are demonstrators protesting the Governor's attempt to strip them of their collective bargaining rights. But what they have to do with the street clinic (the entire state is their clinic, after all) livfreeordi is in no position to say.
Are chronic and flagrant bullshitters really allowed to practice medicine in NY? livfreeordi's behavior would be unacceptable in a used-car salesman or mortgage broker.
Shorter FLS: "Waaaaah!"
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