BTW, I laugh at Crack's insinuation that having empathy for women makes me a Beta-male or unworthy of "real man" status. I think he's a fucking psycho and should be arrested.
Synova, I think Crack is pointing out that men are far more often victims of violence than are women, even as they are far more often the perpetrators. This is most often related to crimes having naught to do with sex, which is the violence women fear more.
The male size advantage surely buys some reduction in that fear. Women can use an equalizer, provided they are willing to fire it.
That is, because men are more often victims, they should perhaps fear violence more, but I see no evidence that is true. Rather, many men tend to invite violence, or at least do not act to avoid it.
But a thrown punch, a crowbar, or a bullet man-to-man is simply not the same thing as a sex crime, which is I think the elephant in the room here.
But I fail to see why lacking official documentation is somehow a good thing.
Because when the cop goes to see him, and through this interaction the stalker realizes that the cop can't actually do anything about it, and this crystallizes in the stalker's mind that the law can't touch him, and he feels quite puffed up with himself, he will often become much worse. He may even come regale you with his tale about how he laughed in the cop's face. That's a lot of fun. Meanwhile, the police can do nothing and so nothing positive comes of it.
If you're being stalked, you'll often, at least in every case I've heard of, have so many witnesses that you'd never need a paper trail.
I would, however, recommend calling the police if you think you're in imminent danger or if you have actionable evidence like recorded death threats. But for the day to day tedious anxiety of stalking, there's really not much they can do. I guess you can file if you think the paper trail is worth the trade off. Maybe it would be, maybe it wouldn't. Your calculation had better be good.
"in a one on one with a 6 footer I don't stand a chance."
Bullshit. My brother is just 5'6", and noooobody gonna mess with him. Shit, he scares me. Part of the game is confidence, part is training, and part is being willing to kick the shit outta someone and looking like you really want to right goddamned now.
My Dad taught me as a young skinny kid: No one wants to fight a crazy man. Get in a fight and be crazy as hell, like a rabid dog, like you actually like it. He'll back off 'cause it ain't any fun.
Right as rain, he was. Golden Gloves boxer, too, at 5'10".
I was sparring a guy once and he snapped my head around and when I came up I was smiling like a fiend--it had been a long time since I'd sparred, and I was just enjoying the hell out of it--and it definitely changed the tenor of the match.
You don't even have to be crazy, just make it all a big game.
I've beaten bigger guys and been beaten by smaller guys--and gals. But this was safe ground, and even then most girls (and a large number of guys) were uncomfortable.
I get the impression from reading Crack Emcee that the only worthy people are those who think and act like him, and (presumably) those who are recipients of his largess.
what Lem is doing is called comic relief, aka black humor. y'know, Shakespeare's gravedigger.
If humor is inadequate and inappropriate to something like this, so is most serious analysis. The human psyche can generate things like deadly tornadoes, and it's pitiful when the innocent are in their way.
"Not that there are not men who are vulnerable but *most* women are far more physically vulnerable than *most* men on size and strength alone,...I also do not do anything to attract undesirable attention and saying 'Hi' to an emotionally needy, unstable fellow is the physical-safety equivalent of walking alone into a dark alley."
Compared to other men, any man can be vulnerable - size and strength don't mean shit. There are big men who can't fight, or are cowards, as well as men who are small but trained in combat, etc. Are you going to leave them out of your assessment, or keep up this woman-as-special-victim stuff, like women are the most capable of getting hurt out there? If so, then please tell your feminist sisters to keep their traps shut because - just like with any man - they can get hurt for shooting their mouths off like that and (considering their size and weight) that ain't smart.
Plus, my ex hurt me worse than I think I've ever been, and I've been knocked out cold, stabbed, and worse - should men start "take back the night" groups against women and their back-stabbing, double-dealing ways, of the so-called "emotional violence" they use, instead of face-to-face confrontation? They've not only got the social back-up to do, pretty much, whatever they want with a man's life, but the legal back-up as well, so what to do, what to do? I'm not saying I do this - or suggesting it to anyone else - but I was raised you hit women just as you would a man, that way, if you get dragged to jail based on a lie, at least you've earned it, and nobody's going to walk away laughing because their plot (to twist the system to their ends) worked out as planned.
Really, I think you're kidding yourself, and assuming a whole hell of a lot, here.
Finally, I say "Hi" to anyone within 10 feet of me. Now, since you know *a bit* about my biases, you should also know it takes a lot for me to do that - one mention of anyone's spiritual beliefs and I want to get as far away from most of them as possible - so why do I do it? Because it makes the world a better place - it's not all about me and my ideas (or you and yours) - I think it's your attitude (based on The Lifetime Channel feminist bullshit) that creates people like this shooter: By assuming that by just greeting someone you're possibly engaging a "emotionally needy, unstable fellow", you make the world a colder, crueler, place to live for everyone. Women strike me, as a group, as waaay more emotionally needy (and unstable) than guys, but until I discover such a thing, I'm willing to give any of my fellow men or women the benefit of the doubt. If people can see or smell fear - and they can - you're just asking for it.
I know: you say you don't live in fear. Then what else do you call it? (And keep in mind: calling it something else doesn't necessarily make it so.) It sure sounds like living in fear, and delusional thinking, to me. I've met criminals (men and women) who wear hoodies just to find the "marks" with that look in their eyes. I've known other hoodie wearers who have been wrongly accused, and abused, for that same reason. Both outcomes springing from the same source: an overload of fear, and a lack of trust, on the part of others.
I'm not saying I do this - or suggesting it to anyone else - but I was raised you hit women just as you would a man, that way, if you get dragged to jail based on a lie, at least you've earned it, and nobody's going to walk away laughing because their plot (to twist the system to their ends) worked out as planned.
I'm so very sorry for you and the twisted culture in which you seem to have been raised.
This post rates 225 comments and counting. The post on Squeeky Fromme and Manson only rates 17. I would never join a cult, but I have, on occasion, been too much alone with my thoughts and feared where it would lead. (Well, actually, it tended to lead to the nearest bar but dark forebodings of madness sound so much cooler than a poweful need for a drink.)
Geez, Crack. I'm not talking about not saying Hi to random strangers on the street or not smiling and being friendly. I'm not talking about just assuming that every random man is emotionally needy to the extent of being unbalanced.
I didn't even teach my kids "stranger danger" because I think it's damaging to them and wrong and stupid and... everything.
I've never looked up the sex offender registry.
I figure that the only way to be safe, and for the kids to be safe, is to talk to as many strangers as possible and to be as open as possible because how else can you develop a base-line to know if someone is "off" or not?
You insist that murderous psycho stalkers only get that way because women aren't friendly and open to them, invite them home and date them.
No, you're right, I haven't been reading his blog.
If it's his usual thing to place the blame for the actions of a mass murdering psychotic on women having the nerve to own a gym membership and like their pets, then I don't think I want to read his blog.
Just goes to show, I guess. We make faces to meet the faces that we meet.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 230 of 230Is it just me or do I get the sense that Crack guy endorses the psycho killer? Because I'm frankly getting the strong WHIFF of it!
BTW, I laugh at Crack's insinuation that having empathy for women makes me a Beta-male or unworthy of "real man" status. I think he's a fucking psycho and should be arrested.
Women's intuition is awfully old to be New Age bullshit.
There's a men's intuition, too.
I'll let RH explain it.
Though I think Hoosier said about all that needed to be said.
Synova, I think Crack is pointing out that men are far more often victims of violence than are women, even as they are far more often the perpetrators. This is most often related to crimes having naught to do with sex, which is the violence women fear more.
The male size advantage surely buys some reduction in that fear. Women can use an equalizer, provided they are willing to fire it.
That is, because men are more often victims, they should perhaps fear violence more, but I see no evidence that is true. Rather, many men tend to invite violence, or at least do not act to avoid it.
But a thrown punch, a crowbar, or a bullet man-to-man is simply not the same thing as a sex crime, which is I think the elephant in the room here.
Is there anymore pathetic than some guy complaining about how "women don't like nice guys" or "woman don't like guys like me".
pogo - size advantage you say? Not all men are 6'2" tall.
But I fail to see why lacking official documentation is somehow a good thing.
Because when the cop goes to see him, and through this interaction the stalker realizes that the cop can't actually do anything about it, and this crystallizes in the stalker's mind that the law can't touch him, and he feels quite puffed up with himself, he will often become much worse. He may even come regale you with his tale about how he laughed in the cop's face. That's a lot of fun. Meanwhile, the police can do nothing and so nothing positive comes of it.
If you're being stalked, you'll often, at least in every case I've heard of, have so many witnesses that you'd never need a paper trail.
I would, however, recommend calling the police if you think you're in imminent danger or if you have actionable evidence like recorded death threats. But for the day to day tedious anxiety of stalking, there's really not much they can do. I guess you can file if you think the paper trail is worth the trade off. Maybe it would be, maybe it wouldn't. Your calculation had better be good.
" Not all men are 6'2"'
No, but most women are smaller than most men, as has been pointed out. And most men are stronger than most women.
Life's all about the odds.
And this guy was really really odd.
pogo - size advantage you say? Not all men are 6'2" tall.
Even when a man is the same heighth as you and by no means a muscle man, he is likely to still be stronger.
Even when a man is the same heighth as you and by no means a muscle man, he is likely to still be stronger.
That's true. I'm just saying that in a one on one with a 6 footer I don't stand a chance.
"in a one on one with a 6 footer I don't stand a chance."
Bullshit. My brother is just 5'6", and noooobody gonna mess with him. Shit, he scares me. Part of the game is confidence, part is training, and part is being willing to kick the shit outta someone and looking like you really want to right goddamned now.
My Dad taught me as a young skinny kid: No one wants to fight a crazy man. Get in a fight and be crazy as hell, like a rabid dog, like you actually like it. He'll back off 'cause it ain't any fun.
Right as rain, he was. Golden Gloves boxer, too, at 5'10".
Pogo,
I was sparring a guy once and he snapped my head around and when I came up I was smiling like a fiend--it had been a long time since I'd sparred, and I was just enjoying the hell out of it--and it definitely changed the tenor of the match.
You don't even have to be crazy, just make it all a big game.
I've beaten bigger guys and been beaten by smaller guys--and gals. But this was safe ground, and even then most girls (and a large number of guys) were uncomfortable.
I get the impression from reading Crack Emcee that the only worthy people are those who think and act like him, and (presumably) those who are recipients of his largess.
He looks like Malkovich in "In the Line of Fire."
Looked, I mean. All I could think was, "Why didn't he just kill himself?"
Laura,
what Lem is doing is called comic relief, aka black humor. y'know, Shakespeare's gravedigger.
If humor is inadequate and inappropriate to something like this, so is most serious analysis. The human psyche can generate things like deadly tornadoes, and it's pitiful when the innocent are in their way.
Blake, exactly!
Amba, dead on, re: Malkovich, Lem, and tornadoes!
"Not that there are not men who are vulnerable but *most* women are far more physically vulnerable than *most* men on size and strength alone,...I also do not do anything to attract undesirable attention and saying 'Hi' to an emotionally needy, unstable fellow is the physical-safety equivalent of walking alone into a dark alley."
Compared to other men, any man can be vulnerable - size and strength don't mean shit. There are big men who can't fight, or are cowards, as well as men who are small but trained in combat, etc. Are you going to leave them out of your assessment, or keep up this woman-as-special-victim stuff, like women are the most capable of getting hurt out there? If so, then please tell your feminist sisters to keep their traps shut because - just like with any man - they can get hurt for shooting their mouths off like that and (considering their size and weight) that ain't smart.
Plus, my ex hurt me worse than I think I've ever been, and I've been knocked out cold, stabbed, and worse - should men start "take back the night" groups against women and their back-stabbing, double-dealing ways, of the so-called "emotional violence" they use, instead of face-to-face confrontation? They've not only got the social back-up to do, pretty much, whatever they want with a man's life, but the legal back-up as well, so what to do, what to do? I'm not saying I do this - or suggesting it to anyone else - but I was raised you hit women just as you would a man, that way, if you get dragged to jail based on a lie, at least you've earned it, and nobody's going to walk away laughing because their plot (to twist the system to their ends) worked out as planned.
Really, I think you're kidding yourself, and assuming a whole hell of a lot, here.
Finally, I say "Hi" to anyone within 10 feet of me. Now, since you know *a bit* about my biases, you should also know it takes a lot for me to do that - one mention of anyone's spiritual beliefs and I want to get as far away from most of them as possible - so why do I do it? Because it makes the world a better place - it's not all about me and my ideas (or you and yours) - I think it's your attitude (based on The Lifetime Channel feminist bullshit) that creates people like this shooter: By assuming that by just greeting someone you're possibly engaging a "emotionally needy, unstable fellow", you make the world a colder, crueler, place to live for everyone. Women strike me, as a group, as waaay more emotionally needy (and unstable) than guys, but until I discover such a thing, I'm willing to give any of my fellow men or women the benefit of the doubt. If people can see or smell fear - and they can - you're just asking for it.
I know: you say you don't live in fear. Then what else do you call it? (And keep in mind: calling it something else doesn't necessarily make it so.) It sure sounds like living in fear, and delusional thinking, to me. I've met criminals (men and women) who wear hoodies just to find the "marks" with that look in their eyes. I've known other hoodie wearers who have been wrongly accused, and abused, for that same reason. Both outcomes springing from the same source: an overload of fear, and a lack of trust, on the part of others.
Learning to walk the Earth, without fear, that's The Macho Response
..what Lem is doing is called comic relief, aka black humor. y'know, Shakespeare's gravedigger.
Wow Amba. I had no Idea. I mean, I'm familiar with the character. I'll try and not let it go to my head ;)
Amba, Lem kept saying "it's a tough room", which I took to mean that he wondered why no one was engaging his jokes.
If he wants to deliver black humor to the unanswering cosmos, that's cool.
If he wants some back-and-forth and doesn't understand why he's not getting it, he might appreciate a brief explanation.
Althouse is a hell of a blog.
I'm not saying I do this - or suggesting it to anyone else - but I was raised you hit women just as you would a man, that way, if you get dragged to jail based on a lie, at least you've earned it, and nobody's going to walk away laughing because their plot (to twist the system to their ends) worked out as planned.
I'm so very sorry for you and the twisted culture in which you seem to have been raised.
Crack-
You might want to re-examine if you are Republican.
Republicans believe in personal responsibility and accountability-
So this from you-
I think it's your attitude (based on The Lifetime Channel feminist bullshit) that creates people like this shooter.
Maybe you've been fooling yourself and convincing yourself otherwise but this is Liberal think.
This is stuff BF Skinner wouldn't even give as much credence to as you.
And I know you might want to blame this all on women but I have a hunch-
GUYS were creeped out by him too.
And that's been re-iterated time and again on this thread but you continue to ignore that possibility because it doesn't fit in with your theory.
This post rates 225 comments and counting. The post on Squeeky Fromme and Manson only rates 17. I would never join a cult, but I have, on occasion, been too much alone with my thoughts and feared where it would lead. (Well, actually, it tended to lead to the nearest bar but dark forebodings of madness sound so much cooler than a poweful need for a drink.)
Geez, Crack. I'm not talking about not saying Hi to random strangers on the street or not smiling and being friendly. I'm not talking about just assuming that every random man is emotionally needy to the extent of being unbalanced.
I didn't even teach my kids "stranger danger" because I think it's damaging to them and wrong and stupid and... everything.
I've never looked up the sex offender registry.
I figure that the only way to be safe, and for the kids to be safe, is to talk to as many strangers as possible and to be as open as possible because how else can you develop a base-line to know if someone is "off" or not?
You insist that murderous psycho stalkers only get that way because women aren't friendly and open to them, invite them home and date them.
How do you explain psycho women stalkers?
Crack Emcee:
The comedian Louis CK said, "Women are nonviolent, but they will shit inside your heart."
I say this to you, when I ordinarily roll my eyes and scroll past a lot of people's comments, because I usually think you have a lot of sense.
You haven't been reading his blog, then. It's a slice of obsession.
No, you're right, I haven't been reading his blog.
If it's his usual thing to place the blame for the actions of a mass murdering psychotic on women having the nerve to own a gym membership and like their pets, then I don't think I want to read his blog.
Just goes to show, I guess. We make faces to meet the faces that we meet.
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