August 23, 2017

"It was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck. My skin crawled."

"It was one of those moments where you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching, well, what would you do? Do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren’t repeatedly invading your space? Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly, ‘back up you creep, get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women but you can’t intimidate me, so back up.’"

So Hillary admits that she couldn't think of what to do under pressure. She needs a pause button. Is that like a reset button? There's no such thing. I mean you can vandalize the hotel hot tub to get a plastic button to call whatever you want — the Make Me President button — but it doesn't work.



More from the leaked excerpts to the memoir we're not all going to buy when it comes out in a few weeks:
"I chose option A. I kept my cool, aided by a lifetime of dealing with difficult men trying to throw me off."
The writer assumes the reader will not immediately think: Bill Clinton!
"I did, however, grip the microphone extra hard," she wrote. 
The writer assumes the reader will not think: phallic symbol.
“I wonder, though, whether I should have chosen option B. It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world.”
If you present an endlessly smiling controlled face to the world and choose to say nothing, people won't know what you think, won't trust you, and — since you're asking to be our President — won't be able to rely on you to speak for us. If you're that afraid to come up with an apt response to someone who's being intimidating, how do you have what it takes to be President? You think if you said something, it might be bad, so best to say nothing?

Look how easy it was for George W. Bush to push back Al Gore's overbearing physical encroachment during a debate:



Perfect. That nod. Everyone laughed. Nobody thought Bush seemed unpresidentially peevish. I still laugh every time I play that clip. And I play it a lot.

UPDATE: I have more to say about "back up you creep" here.

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rehajm said...

Delusional Parasitosis.

tim in vermont said...

Lol

Darrell said...

She would have been more comfortable in her own warehouse somewhere. The crowd could have been greenscreened in, like at some of her rallies.

Unknown said...

She should have fallen back on shouting and tears, her dignified, controlled reaction to the the grilling over Benghazi.

Rick Turley said...

With Bush and Gore, that was the moment I decided to vote for Bush who clearly demonstrated he was the alpha male and put the beta in his place. Stunning but I think little remarked upon at the time. I am surprised anyone remembers.

CStanley said...

That clip never gets old. The best part is that Gore thought he'd regain the upper hand by asking, "What about the Dingell Norwood bill?"

Gem Quincyite said...

I love how Gore kept saying "Dingle"..........

Michael K said...

There was another moment I remember from the Bush-Gore debates.

I don't recall the debate but the moment was during a dull Gore speech and Bush sitting on a stool, looked over into the crowd and winked at someone.

He was completely cool and I thought he was really in control.

I was not a Bush supporter and was a volunteer for McCain in 2000 but he was in command at that moment.

Rob said...

the! Dingell-Norwood Bill. What a schlemiel.

Known Unknown said...

No one wants a wonk Preezy.

MayBee said...

“I wonder, though, whether I should have chosen option B. It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world.”

Now we know this book is geared toward all the women who wore pantsuits to the polling place and voted for Hillary. All these poor, fearless women who have had to bite their tongue in the face of adversity.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

At what point will the Clinton machine run out of gas and roll into the ditch?

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Is the name of her book "Like ew, he's so creeepy!"
?

Michael K said...

I think Hillary clenches her little fist a lot.

Sometimes, it's around a lamp base or a champagne bottle.

Watch for it and duck.

Laslo Spatula said...

"...digging my fingernails into a clenched fist..."

Hillary manages to encapsulate her entire being into one phrase.

Barely sublimated anger -- even rage.

The desired response of the Fist.

Fingernails on a blackboard.

To loosely paraphrase Orwell:

If you want a vision of Hillary, imagine nails digging into a clenched fist - forever.

I am Laslo.

Darrell said...
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Birches said...

Trump was trying to be intimidating? Sorry, he looked more like John McCain wandering around in 2008 than a big ol' mean MAN! Here's what people thought that night. It's only after Jezebel decided it was Patriarchy that people decided it was actually attempted to intimidate.

Darrell said...

She could have dumped her waste tanks on stage, like her campaign buses did on streets and bridges.

Chuck said...

That was such a weird thing, that February Trump press conference (per the Althouse-embedded video). It was one of the greatest concentration of Trump lies, falsehoods and misstatements in his presidency which is why he hasn't done many of them, and they have all been disasters. The more that Trump has to answer tough questions, the worse he looks.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/feb/16/fact-checking-donald-trumps-press-conference/

Caligula said...


"I wonder, though, whether I should have chosen option B. It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world."


"Do I dare
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse."
(Hillary Prufrok, with apologies to T.S. Eliot.)


Known Unknown said...

So whenever a 6'2" person appears behind a 5'4.5" person, they are looming. Got it.

Known Unknown said...

Chuck stays on target but not on topic.

Darrell said...

I get that nobody likes Chuck. Who would?

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

Chuck and Hillary illustrate the Dem's strategy for future political dominance:
Shout into a canyon.
Listen to the echoes.
Shout your agreement.
Repeat.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Hillary is the manifestation of the left's eternal notion of entitlement to power. Why on earth would anyone be on stage with her? Talking, breathing. The nerve. We must forfeit the election and crown her president.

Amadeus 48 said...

I thought she was talking about a get-acquainted session with Bill in the stacks at the Yale law library.

Actually, my first thought was that the quote was a survivor's account of an encounter with Joe Biden.

PB said...

the Dems seem to be trying out "creepy" as a word this week. It is their efforts to keep flailing that is creepy.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Hillary is trying to be liked by the D-base. She hates Trump - just like you do! aw.

Rob said...

Laslo nails it.

Martha said...

Would Hillary have us believe that she actually feared the looming creep —aka the Republican Presidential candidate— was going to grab her pussy? They shared a small debate stage. Trump looked to me as if he was trying to stay in the tv camera shot—trust me, he was not going to touch Hillary!

David Begley said...

But the MSM loves her and they work hard every day to remove Trump.

DKWalser said...

George W. Bush: Do you miss him? I do. At the tail end of his Presidency, many were asking if any President could do worse. It's as if we set out to prove the answer to that question was yes.

Chuck said...

Known Unknown said...
Chuck stays on target but not on topic.

Hey, I didn't post the Trump presser video. Althouse did. It seemed to me that Althouse set the embed so that it was limited to Trump's tallking about the reset button. When the full video also has the laughable Trump statement about how his administration was running "like a fine-tuned machine." And then, after Flynn's departure came the departures of not one but two communications directors, Trump's White House Chief of staff, his press secretary, and his lead political strategist. Even if the White House staff was a "fine-tuned machine," it is unrecognizable as such now.

There was also Trump's howlingly bad claim about the historic size of his electoral victory, on which a reporter nailed him, mid-conference. Et cetera, et cetera.

Not misquotes of Trump; not any mischaracterization. Not leaks, or anonymous sources. Not the opinions of fathead panelists on CNN or MSNBC. Just going off of what Trump himself says, on the record.

Kevin said...

Now we know this book is geared toward all the women who wore pantsuits to the polling place and voted for Hillary. All these poor, fearless women who have had to bite their tongue in the face of adversity.

Not a book about Hillary's decisions or mistakes. Not about what really cost her the election. Yet another book about her struggles against those who would deny her what was rightfully hers and how difficult this has all been for her.

It's just so unfair, and she's given so much of herself in the effort.

Mike said...

Hillary is still as phony as a three dollar bill, still peddling the lies that external forces (dark manly forces) have held her back all her life. Despite the fact she was given a huge opportunity as first lady and blew it by trying to take over health care in 1994. Despite the fact she was given a seat in a state where she wasn't even a resident as a "thank you" from the democrat-media complex in 2000 to set her up for a presidential run. Despite the world-wide name recognition she possessed she failed to even win the democrat-media primary in 2008, after 30 years of planning for it (which it seems should have been what we call a "clue" to the dense dyke from the Illinois burbs). Then despite having every media advantage, every demographic advantage (so we were told) and the all-important polling advantage (where they try to make her "inevitable" with all their statistical tricks) that has traditionally been used to cow opponents and dissuade rural voters, she could not pull enough actual votes outside of California to even make the electoral college competitive.

So everything she dishonestly scribes now will be a variation of "shoulda woulda coulda" and will only repel more people who used to support her and solidify the opinion of the majority who hate her lying ass and wish she would "go into the cornfield" with Robert Byrd and the other racists she admires so much.

Bay Area Guy said...

Ahh, the joy of waking up in an America where Hillary Clinton is still not preisident.

It doesn't get old!

Also, hat tip to the overbearing and insufferable Al Gore for not becoming President either. Thanks, Florida!

Yes, Hillary, please write more books and spend lots of time discussing the 2016 election.

Big Mike said...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but when they analyzed the tape later, wasn't it a case of her moving into his space? Am I remembering this wrong?

Certainly Hillary didn't know what to do under pressure when our embassy in Benghazi was attacked.

Ralph L said...

I know you love to intimidate women but you can’t intimidate me, so back up.
While admitting that he did.

Mike said...

To loosely paraphrase Orwell:

If you want a vision of Hillary, imagine nails digging into a clenched fist - forever.

I am Laslo.


Dude, you are a genius.

traditionalguy said...

Does the autographed hardback book come with the famous Hillary Clinton strange odor of rotting meat? That would be worth a few sales to the curious.

Breezy said...

If she's musing about her reaction or lack thereof and her shoulda woulda coulda, it seems her debate prep did not include the possibility of physical mechanics and response. This, especially after the Gore example and even her own experience with Lazio in her senate debate. So I think this even more evidence of her poor campaign skills.

Curious George said...

"Darrell said...
I get that nobody likes Chuck. Who would?"

Even Chuck's dog hates him.

EDH said...

Why can't I find any unexpurgated video of that debate moment, if it was so propitious? (As I remember, the impression Hillary is selling was very camera angle dependent.)

Oh and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan's spell

And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died

Bob Ellison said...

I, too, enjoy that W. nod at Gore in the debate. One can read too much into it, and I'll do that here: Bush's nod says simply, Hey there, little fella. Very Texan.

Kevin said...

Hey, I didn't post the Trump presser video. Althouse did. It seemed to me that Althouse set the embed so that it was limited to Trump's tallking about the reset button.

What Althouse posted:

1. Post about Hillary's book
2. Hillary's inability to deal with Trump during the debate
3. Hillary wants a reset button
4. Trump mocks the reset button

Where Chuck took the post on Hillary:

1. Trump press conference weird.
2. Greatest concentration of Trump lies, falsehoods and misstatements in his presidency.
3. All Trump press conferences disasters.
4. Trump statement about how his administration running "like a fine-tuned machine" laughable
5. Flynn left Trump's Administration
6. Followed by two communications directors
6. And Chief of staff
7. And press secretary
8. And lead political strategist
9. White House unrecognizable
10. As "fine-tuned machine".
11. Bleep.
12. Snurp.
13. Slurgle.
14. Danger.
15. Murphphph
16. Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmp.

AllenS said...

Clinton won a decisive majority of black votes against Trump (88% to 8%), so her book should sell well in the hood.

Big Mike, I remember Hillary moving from her spot to a place where she was in front of Trump.

Unknown said...

makes me laugh every time

"what about the dingle norwood bill"

dreams said...

"what about the dingle norwood bill"

Yeah, that must been a really important bill whatever it was.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

I just rewatched the video of his "intimidation". He maintains a solid 3' distance from her. He is not in her space, he is not breathing down her neck. He is out of her line of sight. If that is enough to throw her off, that is her issue. Thank God it is not the country's issue.

Kate said...

It's called esprit d'escalier. If you suffer from it, and Hillary obviously does, you don't ever get to tell someone what you think in the moment. You're always headed down the stairs when you realize the perfect comeback. Her inability to be authentic -- to admit and embrace her weaknesses -- is why she's not president, and she has no idea. It's That Man's fault.

Michael K said...

"When the full video also has the laughable Trump statement about how his administration was running "like a fine-tuned machine."

Poor chuck. He has the Trump administration already in place at the second debate.

Chuck, you have the Trump brain worm drilling a hole. They have doctors for that.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Trump "intimidating" Clinton

Michael K said...

""what about the dingle norwood bill"

I think it was about the angle of the dangle.

Kevin said...

Clinton won a decisive majority of black votes against Trump (88% to 8%), so her book should sell well in the hood.

I look forward to Hillary's CSPAN-televised book signing in Compton.

Henry said...

Where's a vase to throw when you need one?

William said...

Bush was not verbally dexterous, but he was physically elegant. I remember the bemused way that he dodged the shoe that was thrown at him and the perfect strike he threw from the ptcher's mound at Yankee Stadium after 9/11. His best moments were his physical gestures: the nod towards Gore, the way he put his arm around the fireman atop that pile of rubble.

dreams said...

Gore is still a dingle/norwoodberry.

traditionalguy said...

What if Hildabeast had won. The Confederate General's Statues would have had her replace them on the horses, but because they fought in Polk's Unjust Mexican War. And Mexico City would be Capital of California by now.

Larvell said...

If she had gone the "I am a powerful woman, quit intimidating me!" route, her diehard supporters would have been all, "You go, girl!" and everyone else would have thought, "Good grief, do I want 4 years of this?"

Chris N said...

Now this is a genuine and authentic human being, who happens to be a woman.

Power is tricky, but she seems honest, principled and grounded enough to wield it wisely.

Can someone who knows what MS Paint is make a logo of a pantsuit arrow or something?

Henry said...

@ignorance is Bliss -- That's a useful reference.

Watching it, I wonder if Trump's goal was simply to make sure he was in the camera shot.

AllenS said...

OK, so Trump basically returned to his lectern, and Hillary stood in front of him. Thanks, IiB.

Kevin said...

Where's a vase to throw when you need one?

That cracked me up!

chuck said...

The first question that popped into my mind was "Hillary who?" The second was, "How big was the advamce?" Think I'll wait for the movie, should make a good horror flick.

bagoh20 said...

Can you even imagine Trump or any strong leader saying such a thing about an opponent. That's the voice of a loser. Hillary may be the least qualified person to ever run, just based on her feelings alone. We really dodged an aggressively launched wet napkin with that one.

Chris N said...

And these books by politicians trying to get into office....they're SO GOOD.

Chuck said...

Kevin, Althouse wanted to use a little snippet of a Trump presser to emphasize a point that she liked; something along the lines of yet another Hillary Clinton public relations misfire.

I chose to expand on that same video, not limited in the way that Althouse wanted to limit it, to make the larger point that there is almost never a time when Trump makes a cogent point and stops. Trump almost always steps in a giant pile of shit of his own doing. And that is what he did in that presser.

It's pretty goddamned funny to me that on the morning after Trump complained to the entire nation in a televised speech that the press is rotten because they take little parts of his statements out of context, the Atlhouse Trumpkins want to take only one part of his longer press conference (while excusing Trump for also leaving out the most inflammatory parts of his Charlottesville statements in his speech last night).

Matthew Sablan said...

"The Confederate General's Statues would have had her replace them on the horses, but because they fought in Polk's Unjust Mexican War."

-- No. The statues would have been ignored, for the most part. As they were under Obama. They were pretty much ignored until they could be used as a convenient bludgeon against Republicans. Like reporting on the homeless.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Literally????

He was literally breathing down my neck

Hillary, or whoever wrote this screed, doesn't know the meaning of the word literally. If Trump was literally breathing down her neck, that would have been a sight to see!

Mike said...

Chris N said...
Now this is a genuine and authentic human being, who happens to be a woman.

Power is tricky, but she seems honest, principled and grounded enough to wield it wisely.

Can someone who knows what MS Paint is make a logo of a pantsuit arrow or something?


Subtle, Chris. Subtle but effective.

William said...

Can someone tell me what Hillary Clinton is good at? Her speeches are boring. Her physical presence is wearying. She tried hard to look bouncy and perky when she took the stage at the rallies, but it had the perverse effect of drawing attention to the way gravity was pulling her down.......Is any life so blighted with ennui and confusion that they would turn to her book for entertainment or enlightenment?

Left Bank of the Charles said...

If she'd kneed him in the groin she'd be President today. Donald or Bill.

Bruce Hayden said...

Her problem here is that Trump so easily intimidated her there. Maybe by not even trying. The key demographic, working class whites, was likely not sympathetic. We had just gone through 8 years of President Milktoast, who bowed and scraped before tin pot despots all around the world. Much of that part of America sees no reason that the US President should bow or defer to anyone. Crooked Hillary that night showed that she likely wouldn't be any better, that these leaders around the world could easily intimidate her. If Trump could intimidate her without even trying, just by being big and male, what about all the leaders around the world who would actually try to do so? Sure, she got some sympathy votes, from voters (male and female) voting with their vaginas, But lost probably more votes of those voters (male and female) who vote with their brains or gonads.

Chuck said...

bagoh20 said...
Can you even imagine Trump or any strong leader saying such a thing about an opponent?

Yes. I cannot imagine Trump doing anything other than bitching and pissing and moaning about how he has been treated. If Trump lives to become a former President, I have no doubt but that he will become the most notoriously loudmouthed, over-involved, self-defensive nuisance in Presidential history.

And given that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton set new standards for being post-Presidential nuisances, if Trump were to exceed them, it would be a qualitative leap.

Martin said...

I always have thought that clip shows the moment when bush won the Presidency.

You might recall that the media was also full of talk about Gore changing his wardrobe and mannerisms to look more "alpha," the name Naomi Wolf comes to memory.

Given that all that was out in the open, Gore walking up to loom over Bush was all wrong--it came across as coached and manipulated, not at all the "real" Al Gore but the one the campaign consultants wanted to substitute.

I have also wondered if the Bush camp expected Gore to try something like that, and had discussed with the candidate how he might respond. Which would echo the Bentsen/Quayle VP debate in 1988, when the Dems had been pushing on Quayle's youth and inexperience (how quaint, after 8 yrs of Obama, but t was a different world), and Quayle's people had been pushing back with the example of JFK. It came out later that the Dems expected Quayle to play the JFK card if pushed, and edxacatly what Bentsen should say.

Michael K said...

"Bush was not verbally dexterous, but he was physically elegant."

Yes. I have read that he is humorous and witty in private.

I suspect he was strongly advised not to be in public. My father in law knew Hubert Humphrey well and said the same about him.

Now, we see how insane the media goes when we see Trump in public just as he probably is in private.

The difference is that Trump, and his voters, don't care.

Bush was polite and PC but was savaged.

Michael K said...

" the Dems expected Quayle to play the JFK card if pushed, and edxacatly what Bentsen should say."

And it was not true. He did not know Kennedy.

320Busdriver said...

How about hitting ctrl alt del...erase...whatever

Hillary couldn't beat Trump because she's a lying, conniving, self serving slug

And a bad one at that.

CStanley said...

Poor Al Gore. I picture him coming off the stage and asking his campaign team if they saw how great he did on that question.

You have to wonder how much the Dingell exchange hurt him. And then ironically it was the dangling chads that finally did him in.

Unknown said...

Hill is pulling a perfect Seinfeld
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Comeback_(Seinfeld)

> "Hey George, the ocean called; they're running out of shrimp." Slow-witted George cannot think of a comeback until later, while driving to the tennis club to meet Jerry. His comeback is: "Well, the Jerk Store called, and they're running out of you." George becomes obsessed with recreating the encounter so that he can make use of his comeback.

> When he says it, Reilly simply shoots back with "What's the difference? You're their all-time best seller."

Hillary will run in 2020, set up the debate, deliver the line, and Trump will spin on a dime and nail her again.

She is George.

I hope someone Dingles my Norwood...

tcrosse said...

Will Hillary's book reflect the current Narrative that the Russians under the bed have been replaced by Nazis ?

Chuck said...

The statues would have been ignored, for the most part. As they were under Obama. They were pretty much ignored until they could be used as a convenient bludgeon against Republicans. Like reporting on the homeless.


I would like to agree with this. I think that there is much truth in it.

But what about the argument that there was a lot of pressure on removing confederate monuments after the Dylann Roof murders in Charleston? Or the argument that what really precipitated the post-Charleston campaign against confederate monuments was not based on the rally, or Trump, but rather the fact that one self-identified white supremacist drove his car into a crowd, injuring many and killing one?

It's a good argument that Dylann Roof, and James Alex Fields Jr., had the most to do with the removal of the statues. By having created causes based on the martyrdom of their victims.

Nonapod said...

The most off putting way to smile is with your eyes wide open in a frozen rictus. It makes you look predatory and maniacal. It's strange that nobody ever advised Hillary not to do that. Or maybe someone did and she either ignored them or just could never achieve a normal humanoid smile.

Tommy Duncan said...

Seriously, Hillary, what difference at this point does it make?

This is a great thread. Chuck is in self parody mode. Laslo nails it. Kate's "esprit d'escalier" comment is priceless. The Bush/Gore clip is timeless. Dingle-Norwood revisited.

Unknown said...

> I decided to vote for Bush who clearly demonstrated he was the alpha male and put the beta in his place.

If we think "alpha male" defines leader, then perhaps we need a new definition based on "what works" rather than "primitive brain".

The Mooch can still run, he was the Alpha King.

Michael said...

Another great reminder that we should remain grateful that "that woman" is not president of the U.S. And never will be.

Darrell said...

If only Trump could be like Jeb! or one of the other miserable cocksuckers that the regular Republican Party tried to foist on voters and that they overwhelmingly rejected.

Paddy O said...

The sad thing is that in so many ways Hillary exemplifies old stereotypes about women. Rode her husbands coattails to the top, gets the vapors, etc. and so on. Sad because I know so, so many women who are much, much better than Hillary is at being a human, and being a leader. Of all the women in this country, there are an amazing amount who could have been a much better candidate.

Hillary was nominated because she's corrupt. Her corruption built through her husbands presidency, her so-called foundation that facilitates dozens of different financial deceits, her secretary of State position, all fed into countless villains paying for access and privilege.

She shows no political skills, no people skills, no emotional intelligence, she's intimidated, but probably not as much by Trump as by having to provide her own non-polled-yet reactions to moments. She needs a script to live, and handlers to shelter. She's the epitome of white privilege and whatever other privilege you can think of.

Of all the women who could have been great candidates, Hillary was nominated because she wielded power through her corrupt fortune, built on corruption, built for corruption.

CStanley said...

The chance that they didn't rehearse how she should respond to any physical intimidation by Trump in debate prep is close to nil.

Obviously they couldn't get her to turn this to her advantage so the fallback was to play the victim card. I think they vaguely floated that out there after the debate but no one bought it but now that some time has passed they must think that everyone's memory of Trump keeping a distance has faded and few will review the tape.

Fernandinande said...

Can one be hysterical without a womb? Does Billary still have one?

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

I doubt anyone wants to read her book. If she sells it as "All your insider Trump loathing and hatred" she might see some sales.

Unknown said...

But what about the argument that there was a lot of pressure on removing confederate monuments after the Dylann Roof murders in Charleston?

After Roof Nikki Haley brought down the Confederate battle flag that was flying in front of the State House. There was no question about bringing down the Confederate soldiers' monument that it was flying beside.

Chuck said...

Michael K said...
" the Dems expected Quayle to play the JFK card if pushed, and edxacatly what Bentsen should say."

And it was not true. He did not know Kennedy.


That is a weird claim from you, Michael K. In the Quayle-Bentsen debate, Bentsen said, "I served with Jack Kennedy; I knew Jack Kennedy; Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine..."

And the simple fact is that Bentsen was in the U.S. House from 1948-55, and Kennedy was in the House from 1947-53. They did serve together, in the U.S. House of Representatives, for two terms and about four years. And I have no doubt that they knew each other. And what would be your basis for claiming that Kennedy was not a friend of Bentsen's?

What was it that Bentsen said that was untrue?

By the way, I am a huge Dan Quayle fan and I read his book.

whitney said...

I don't remember ever seeing that before but I laughed out loud when I saw it. You're right. Bush was perfect in that. And Gore came off looking like a tool

wildswan said...

The way Hillary acted was the way her campaign decided that she would act at all times. They expected provocation from Trump and trained her in debate prep not to react. This is what it says in Shattered, the book about Hillary's campaign not written by her:

"Her team could be sure that he would say outlandish and salacious things, yell, and point his finger to try to rattle Hillary. Her job would be to deliver her punches and deflect his attacks without losing her composure. Hillary was painfully aware of the tightropes she’d have to walk, the same ones women in politics and business always had to tread with extreme caution. She’d have to be confident without appearing arrogant, defensive without being accusatory, and assertive without looking like a bitch. But in prep sessions dating back to the primaries, her voice, her body language, and her facial expressions often betrayed the traits she wanted to avoid in prime time. Dunn was so conscious of the damage that could be done with one bad look or one sarcastic remark that she devised a mantra for Hillary: “Demeanor is the debate.” Not only did Dunn say it, but it was featured on special one-sheet “debate on a page” memos that she and Klain gave Hillary on the day of each of the primary and general-election debates. “Happy to be there! Smiling! Never rattled! You look great!” they wrote in one of them under the “Don’t forget” category. “Tone, tone, tone,” they put at the top of another cheat sheet.

Allen, Jonathan. Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign (pp. 327-328). Crown/Archetype. Kindle Edition."

So she's just trying to imagine that with a different team and a different strategy she would have defeated Trump - because Trump (Mr. Quick Response) would just have gone lumbering on doing what his campaign told him while Hillary danced about him. Oh, I Think so.

But I'm in favor of Hillary re-enacting and freezing the Dems into 7:00, Nov. 8, 2016 with her. And why not have a sort of duet on primetime TV with her and Al Gore both up on stage claiming they were the real victors in 2000 and 2016? lamenting together the stupid Constitution which let deplorable flyover s---s have a voice that must be heard? Antifa could be a sort of dancing chorus wearing exciting Nazi-type clothes and moving about the stage assaulting people. The show could be called Crystal Clear Night. Have it just before election 2018. Beat up out some deplorables, yeah, right there, while Hillary screams "You deserve it, you creeps". Show those pukes in upper Bumfart what free speech really is. Show them the country under a Democratic Congress and President, the real America of the real left.

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CStanley said...

"I chose option A. I kept my cool, aided by a lifetime of dealing with difficult men trying to throw me off."
The writer assumes the reader will not immediately think: Bill Clinton!
"I did, however, grip the microphone extra hard," she wrote.
The writer assumes the reader will not think: phallic symbol.


Honestly, how could the editors have not foreseen that everyone who lived through the 90s would be unable to read that passage without thinking that?

Bruce Hayden said...

One of the President's key job is Commander in Chief. To protect us from the rest of the world. This is very important to the parts of America that vote with their brains or gonads, and not with their vaginas. Crooked Hillary's problem there was that males are just better at that sort of thing. There are millions of years of evolution behind that. Most everyone knows that instinctively. Her job was to convince the skeptical portion of Americans that she wouldn't run from her post at the first sign of danger (as Obama seemed to do). I think that she failed there.

Not all women are intimidated by larger guys moving in on them. Mother of my kid. My partner. Probably Sarah Palin. Margaret Thatcher. Etc. and, it wouldn't surprise me if it were hard to really intimidate Crooked Hillary. She probably would have stood up to those tin pot despots that Obama bowed and scraped to. But she would have to think it through first. The voting public doesn't see that, her analytical side.

Chuck said...

Uknown:

You are incorrect, if you think that the post-Charleston reaction was limited to the removal of the Confederate battle flag display at the South Carolina capitol grounds.

The incident sparked a large number of campaigns to rename streets, schools, public squares and remove statues and memorials.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/institutions_reconsider_confed.html

buwaya said...

The causes were created by the media, not the incidents.

There are any number of incidents out of which one could manufacture "pressure". The killing of Lavoy Finicum for instance. A mass media on the other side would have gone pro-cowboy romanticism. Just an example, they are all over if one wants to look.

mockturtle said...

We wouldn't want a President who is that easily intimidated. It would almost seem that the more strident the woman the more complaints about intimidation, thus admitting her weakness. A woman with real strength and savoir faire would have taken it in stride and even used her [dare I suggest it?] femininity to intimidate the offending male. More men are brought to their knees by female charm than by 'tough' talk.

Achilles said...

One of the best parts of the Trump administration is all of the complete losers who are in a constant rage about coulda shoulda woulda.

Sorry Chuck, Hillary lost. We know it makes you angry. Your tears are delicious. Now I wonder what Chuck will say next...

buwaya said...

Look for Sailers new piece in Taki.
The propaganda line is meant for a purpose, and it is class war against you.
Nothing is an accident.

Chuck said...

Achilles said...
One of the best parts of the Trump administration is all of the complete losers who are in a constant rage about coulda shoulda woulda.

Sorry Chuck, Hillary lost. We know it makes you angry. Your tears are delicious. Now I wonder what Chuck will say next..

What a weird comment. I voted for Trump, and have never uttered a single supportive or admiring comment about Hillary.

What your comment demonstrates more than anything is the warped, binary thinking among Trumpkins that the whole world is either for them or against them. To the extent that it is true, it is Trump's own abrasiveness (and his supporters' fanatical attraction to Trump's abrasiveness in particular) that gives rise to the division.

I'm not crying. I am putting as much distance as I can, between myself and Trump. I want to be out of blast range when Trump goes up.

EDH said...

Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world.

Notice, it's only after Trump returns to his podium space that Hillary had invaded that she unclenches her fist while enumerating the flaws of Obamacare.

mockturtle said...

DB@H asks: Is the name of her book "Like ew, he's so creeepy!"?

LOL!

David said...

"Gore walking up to loom over Bush was all wrong--it came across as coached and manipulated, not at all the "real" Al Gore but the one the campaign consultants wanted to substitute."

Came across that way because that is what happened. Who knows the real Al Gore? Tipper, probably, and she has the good grace to remain silent.

Kevin said...

I chose to expand on that same video, not limited in the way that Althouse wanted to limit it, to make the larger point that there is almost never a time when Trump makes a cogent point and stops.

Yes, but isn't that the point you make on every Althouse post? And it's not even that many of us wouldn't agree with you on the particulars, we've just moved on.

To be fair, you're not the only one doing it. But I must say that your non-Trump comments, sparse as they may be, are far more interesting.

For example, who knew you were a fan of Dan Quayle?

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mockturtle said...

Chuck contends: I'm not crying. I am putting as much distance as I can, between myself and Trump. I want to be out of blast range when Trump goes up.

What you are is pathologically obsessed with Trump. Seek help.

buwaya said...

On the subject of cowboys - no media buzz at all at the astounding Bundy Ranch trial, where the jury told the Feds to buzz off.

This would be a natural for a media drama, should it have suited the purposes of the MSM, which it doesn't.

This would have been played as a populist "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" sort of line back in the day, a romantic rebellion against overbearing authority. But the MSM is on the side of overbearing authority.

As Sailer puts it, they are waging class war under the guise of race war.

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Big Mike said...

So other people remember the incident the way I do: she moved into his space. And now she's whining about how easily he turned it against her? Question for Dumbocrats. You thought she was presidential material when you nominated her?

If you don't want a tall man to loom over you, why move in front of him?

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Darrell said...

Chuck should hook up with jenmiller29. And buy a submarine.

buwaya said...

"blast range"?

What is that?
None of us has any reputation, political or otherwise.
That is a very curious conceit.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

But Professor remember the Althouse Rule: where differences exist between men & women those differences (if acknowledged) must be cast such that the women's attribute is superior.

In this case the indecision and alleged passive-aggressive response (bottling her righteous anger up instead of expressing her true rage) the woman chose must be better than the silly cowboy antics the man chose, right? The woman's way must be the better way. Women have better emotional IQ, after all. Everyone knows that.

I'm with you in being a little shocked that Hillary would choose to relate this anecdote at all (with that take on her internal monologue), but she and her associates must really think this is something that makes her look good--look better! Understanding perception still seems like a problem in HillaryLand.

Big Mike said...

+1 to mockturtle at 9:57 and 10:12.

buwaya said...

The point about perception of this piece first needs to identify its intended audience. It is meant to have a certain effect on certain people, not all people.

Women, of a certain sort, to start. Women dont tend to buy or read political books, this being a male market, so this is intended for a certain sort of woman.

jwl said...

Supposedly Clinton is angry person, she took safe option to ignore trump, if she get too shrew like debate viewers would react negatively.

I long wondered why hillary stayed with bill after monica affair, she could have easily divorced him and gone into politics herself.

Something ugly about clinton couple, bill hides it better tho.

tcrosse said...

I wonder what she has to say about sharing a stage with Bernie ?

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah Chuckles---so glad to know that you are a lifelong Trump supporter. And if you want to sell me a bridge, why my checkbook is ready.

As for that Gore video. The man was and always will be a fatuous ass. But losing the election freed him up to go hunting for his Second Chakra. It is likely that he will find that before he finds a clue. But the climate change scam has been good to him, so there is that.

Michael K said...

"no media buzz at all at the astounding Bundy Ranch trial, where the jury told the Feds to buzz off."

But he is still dead. I watched the video. This was another Ruby Ridge.

MadisonMan said...

If you want a vision of Hillary, imagine nails digging into a clenched fist - forever

Color it blue and you get that silly Blue thing that Union Supporters in WI flog.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

You know what else is creepy? The ECLIPSE!

William said...

Dept of Creepy Men: I wonder if there's any mention in her book of Anthony Weiner and his impact on the race. Hillary has a story to tell, but we'll never hear it.

Chuck said...

Skeptical Voter said...
Ah Chuckles---so glad to know that you are a lifelong Trump supporter.

I never said anything like that. I was never any sort of a Trump "supporter."

I said I voted for Trump. I did vote for Trump. As the least-worst option. Which, given what I have written about Trump, says as much as needs to be said about how I feel, and felt, about Clinton.

I don't regret my vote for Trump. I am just sad that he was the Republican nominee. I never "supported" much of anything about Trump, apart from the fact that he was -- nominally -- "Not Democrat." As time has worn on, Trump really does seem to be "Not Democrat." The next question will be whether Trump is also "Not Republican." Some Trump supporters would love for Trump to be "Not Republican." Again, another crystalline reason that I will not ever be a "Trump supporter."

buwaya said...

That part, the killing of Lavoy Finicum, certainly is a Ruby Ridge sort of incident.

However, the trial I mentioned was the Nevada trial of supporters of the Bundy Ranch standoff.

R.J. Chatt said...

Hillary's book is like a written version of what she would she would say to her support group, blaming every neurotic fear and seething anger they have on Trump. Thanks for telling us what a big phony you are Hillary, as if we had no idea.

BTW, Trump already said how he would have handled losing the election. He told his rallies repeatedly that if he lost he'd consider the whole electioneering experience a colossal waste of time and money, but he'd happily go back to his very comfortable life and profitable business. He sees himself as a winner and much to the annoyance of his critics he focuses on his wins, he certainly wouldn't be writing books about losing.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

From the clip linked to by EDH at 10:05, it appears that Trump merely went back to his own podium space after he was done talking and Hillary moved to be in front of his podium space.

He wasn't looming over her or breathing down her neck. She was standing in front of the podium that was his space. What was he supposed to do? He was back in his assigned position.

Portlandmermaid said...

What a classic moment. Gore tries to intimidate, Bush gives him a "I see you, son" nod and goes on. Gore stands there, looking like an ass.

Clinton's memoir sounds like a lot of I shouda/coulda. She comes across as desperate and clueless; too dumb to realize that people will draw a direct line between the man she says gave her the creeps and the man she married and stayed with through all of his cheating behavior.

Mac McConnell said...

Hillary is an ASSHAT, as is the media's assessment of "Trump looming over Clinton". Watch the tapes of the second debate, Trump is standing next to his podium and sometimes resting his hand on it. Hillary moves across the stage and stands in front of Trump probably to hide her fat ass.

tcrosse said...

Carly Fiorina managed to handle Mean Old Trump just fine without losing her shit.

pacwest said...

wildswan said:
"And why not have a sort of duet on primetime TV with her and Al Gore both up on stage claiming they were the real victors in 2000 and 2016? lamenting together the stupid Constitution which let deplorable flyover s---s have a voice that must be heard? Antifa could be a sort of dancing chorus wearing exciting Nazi-type clothes and moving about the stage assaulting people."

This is a fantastic idea! I'm thinking a some sort of a "The Producers" done in a Tim Burtonesque style. Springtime for Putin. It almost writes itself.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Paddy O @ 9:44 sums it up perfectly.

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

"Clinton won a decisive majority of black votes against Trump (88% to 8%), so her book should sell well in the hood."

Funny and a concise explanation of the advantages and disadvantages of identity politics.

BDNYC said...

I had that word. "Incredibly." It's so overused nowadays.

Achilles said...

Blogger Chuck said...
Achilles said...
"One of the best parts of the Trump administration is all of the complete losers who are in a constant rage about coulda shoulda woulda.

Sorry Chuck, Hillary lost. We know it makes you angry. Your tears are delicious. Now I wonder what Chuck will say next.."

What a weird comment. I voted for Trump, and have never uttered a single supportive or admiring comment about Hillary.

Didn't see that coming. Nope.

So you know Chuck one of the ways you suss out a liar is look for the awkward constantly repeated statement.

BDNYC said...

"Incredibly" is my "garner."

Paddy O said...

"He sees himself as a winner..."

Is that Hillary over there? What is she still doing here?

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Paddy O said... Rode her husbands coattails to the top, gets the vapors, etc. and so on

Literally needed a fainting couch at one point during the campaign, too!
It's wrong to laugh at the physical infirmities of others but I'd be lying if I said I didn't occasionally Goolge "Hillary Clinton" "side of beef" and chuckle a bit at the results.

"I ain't no ways taaaared" Hillary Clinton, folks.

walter said...

Big Mike said...Certainly Hillary didn't know what to do under pressure when our embassy in Benghazi was attacked.
--
Oh..that was another example of her measured restraint...
Maybe Juanita Broaddrick will show up at her book signing...breathing down her neck.

Darrell said...

I can't wait for Hillary's book to show up at the Dollar Store. I bet it'll make a great shim.

Rit said...

Her lifetime of dealing with difficult men trying to throw her off probably includes most of the men she has tried to bed. That gaping maw coming at you would scare off all but the most drunk and loneliest.

walter said...

I didn't find a clip, but I remember Gore's annoying, childish sighs when "debating" Quayle on King Larry.

BDNYC said...

I hadn't noticed that before about Hillary walking into the area where Trump was standing. The media told me that Trump was stalking the stage in menacing fashion, almost like a gorilla. In that video it really seemed like Hillary invaded his space. Democrats and the media exploited the optics to great effect.

Bay Area Guy said...

My standard retort to all political debates will henceforth be:

WHAT ABOUT DINGLE-NORWOOD!?

Say, BAG, Trump really botched it when he tried to equate the Nazis with the folks opposing the Nazis, didn't he, Pal?

But, WHAT ABOUT DINGLE-NORWOOD!

Say, BAG, Trump's never gonna build a wall -- that was just campaign red meat for rednecks, right?

WHAT ABOUT DINGLE-NORWOOD!

I've long forgotten what even Dingle-Norwood was about, and I refuse to google it.

Bay Area Guy said...

"At this point, what difference does Dingle-Norwood make?"

Chuck said...

So you know Chuck one of the ways you suss out a liar is look for the awkward constantly repeated statement.


One reason -- the biggest reason -- that I have so often repeated the fact that I voted for Trump, is because jackasses like you so regularly accuse me of being a Democrat, an Obama fan, a Hillary supporter, a closet lefty, etc. And even doubting/denying that I did in fact vote for Trump.

I don't understand it at all. My position is probably no different from about 200 Republican members of congress. People who hate Trump's guts and who think Trump is a reckless jerk, or worse. But who voted for Trump because they could never vote for any Democrat, and especially not Hillary Clinton with at least one and maybe three SCOTUS nominations hanging in the balance.

Achilles said...

Trump said he would shut down the government if the budget didn't include funding for the wall at his rally.

If he does that he will win 40 states.

The meltdown this morning is glorious.

walter said...

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat."
Uh huh......

tim in vermont said...

Usually 'carriage wit' is funny. Maybe that would have been a good title. It would have been a step, anyway, to a little self-deprecation, the kind of humor alphas use to great effect. Doesn't work for gammas though, like Hillary.

Annie C said...

July 7, 2008 | 8:24 PM EDT

(CNSNews.com) - Rejecting three Republican sponsored health care bills, the House of Representatives passed the bipartisan Norwood-Dingell legislation which will allow patients greater access to sue their Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) and loosens regulations on seeing specialists and emergency room care.

The legislation, which was preferred by President Clinton and House Democrats, was passed by a margin of 275 to 151. The sponsors of the bill were Reps. Charles Norwood (R-GA) and John Dingell (D-MI).

Some House Republicans were quick to criticize the Norwood-Dingell bill and placed blame on its passage at the door of Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Michael K said...But he is still dead. I watched the video. This was another Ruby Ridge.

I strongly disagree. Ruby Ridge was much, much worse--Ruby Ridge was basically inexcusable and no one in the .gov paid any kind of price. Finicum's actions right before the shooting contributed to his death. Sammy and Vicki Weaver were doing absolutely nothing wrong.
The Media worked hard to not cover Ruby Ridge and to discredit anyone who thought it should be covered.
If the Media applied the same kind of "analysis" and "context" to non-Leftist violence as they do to Leftist and/or Islamist violence you'd be hearing, even today, about how the Feds murdering American citizens at Ruby Ridge was really behind the innocent deaths at the Oklahoma City bombing.

tim in vermont said...

Chuck reminds me why I no longer have the Golf Channel on in the background. Quiet game in a pretty setting, then they cross promote (cross demote?) MSNBC and a spittle flecked stream of anti Trump invective, courtesy oj Joe and Mika ruin the whole thing.

I use Spotify instead now.

Bay Area Guy said...
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Bay Area Guy said...

When you think about it, not only did Bill Clinton screw Monica Lewinsky, but, politically, he also screwed Gore and Hillary too!

I think Dingell-Norwood is much more impressive than Norwood-Dingell.

In other words, I would vote for Dingell-Norwood, but not Norwood-Dingell.

By the way, Where was congressman Anthony Weiner on this critical vote?

Jake said...

She makes women seem so weak and meek.

tim in vermont said...

This is the alternative you gave us, Democrats! No alternative at all.

tcrosse said...

I can't wait for Hillary's book to show up at the Dollar Store. I bet it'll make a great shim.

Considering it will be a compendium of her resentments, it'll be of a size to make a good doorstop.

tcrosse said...

I got your Dingell-Norwood right here.

Todd said...

Now we know this book is geared toward all the women who wore pantsuits to the polling place and voted for Hillary. All these poor, fearless women who have had to bite their tongue in the face of adversity.


This book is geared toward the same audience and "50 shades of gray".

It is a tale about struggle and perseverance against the chains of the patriarchy and how even a strong woman can be shackled by those that view women as play things, but how one strong women, one determined woman, one woman of unfathomable courage and self determination can crash into [and maybe even crack a little] the ultimate glass ceiling. How all the dreams and aspirations of an entire generation can be undone by a small, misguided [dare we say] basket of deplorables.

Available soon through the Althouse Amazon portal. Please support Althouse and buy your copy through her Amazon portal!

CStanley said...

I think she intentionally invaded his space because he wasn't giving her a Lazio moment.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

I guess to women feeling uncomfortable or awkward is basically a form of assault, huh?
I mean, if a man's behavior makes a woman feel uncomfortable that itself is contributing to a hostile work environment, isn't it?
I think Hillary has a pretty strong case here. She oughta sue! Title IX, EEOC; sic 'em Hilldozer!

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Well Hillary, you've been making our skin crawl for decades. Go away. Please.

Thanks,
the deplorables

Achilles said...

"I don't understand it at all. My position is probably no different from about 200 Republican members of congress. People who hate Trump's guts and who think Trump is a reckless jerk, or worse."

The same liars that repealed Obamacare several times when they knew obama would protect them and expected Hillary to win and pretended like they would fight Obamacare to the bitter end.

Then trump won. And the republicans in DC have a chance to pass all of the legislation their voters want. And what do they do?

They prove they are traitors.

Why do you identify with traitors?

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Remember that "glass ceiling" prop they had at what was to be Hillary's campaign victory venue?
Remember how Hillary didn't address the crowd that night, but sent her lackey out to tell everyone to go home without Hillary conceding yet?

Oh, memories!

Joe Schmoe said...

"I kept my cool, aided by a lifetime of dealing with difficult men trying to throw me off."

Yes, because I'm sure all the women she's dealt with have been so supportive. I have 3 sisters. I know better.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

(I almost forgot: remember how Brett Stephens and Meg Whitman said they cast their vote for Hillary Clinton? I remember.)

Yancey Ward said...

Simply, fucking stunning! She goes on to whine about how she wasn't intimidated, all the while demonstrating with her own "recollection" of the debtate that she was intimidated. If you are going to lie your ass off about something, don't do it in a way that makes yourself look like a cretin. That is the level of the intellect of Hillary! Clinton- her own lies condemn her.

Big Mike said...

@Achilles,they aren't traitors and it's way past hyperbole to suggest that they are. They're just run of the mill politicians who've been bought. And probably for not all that much money.

tim in vermont said...

Hillary wasn't even the smartest girl in her tenth grade,but she was the most entitled girl in seven counties.

FullMoon said...

Ann Arbor Chuck said:

"I don't understand it at all. My position is probably no different from about 200 Republican members of congress"


That's the problem right there, Chuck. You don't understand it, Jeb doesn't understand it, Rubio, Kasich, none of you understand it. After all this time, you guys still don't get it. Many here cast a vote for Trump as a protest against Hillary, and you.

Proof that we were right is the Obamacare repeal. You guys lied for years about repealing Obamacare.. you guys are the loudmouth in the bar who would kick the bullies ass if he was in the bar, but when he walks through the door, you suddenly remember an important appointment elsewhere..

Portlandmermaid said...

"Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly, ‘back up you creep, get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women but you can’t intimidate me, so back up."

Too many words. This reminds me of a speech I learned in a class on self-protection. We we're supposed to go on and on instead of just telling the creep to back off and quit touching me.

Yancey Ward said...

Kate wrote...

"It's called esprit d'escalier"

Thanks, Kate- I will have to remember that term- one I think nearly every human being has probably felt at one time or another. You can literally see the gears turning in Hillary!'s head- she is going to run again in 2020 just so she can deliver all these ripostes she claims to have had in mind, and it won't matter because she is still slow-witted.

Yancey Ward said...

Gore had neither a dingle nor wood.

Lewis Wetzel said...

You can literally see the gears turning in Hillary!'s head
Literally? Come on.

Hagar said...

FullMoon above,
and Laslo still wins the thread!

Chuck said...

FullMoon said...
Ann Arbor Chuck said:
"I don't understand it at all. My position is probably no different from about 200 Republican members of congress"

That's the problem right there, Chuck. You don't understand it, Jeb doesn't understand it, Rubio, Kasich, none of you understand it. After all this time, you guys still don't get it. Many here cast a vote for Trump as a protest against Hillary, and you.
Proof that we were right is the Obamacare repeal. You guys lied for years about repealing Obamacare.. you guys are the loudmouth in the bar who would kick the bullies ass if he was in the bar, but when he walks through the door, you suddenly remember an important appointment elsewhere..


I understand what you are saying. I understand, and I don't care. I know that there are lots of Hannity/Limbaugh consumers who think like you do. I don't care. When the BannonTrumpNationalistPopulist Party has majorities in both houses of Congress, and owns 34 statehouses, then I will care.

Don't blame me for anything about Obamacare. We Republicans didn't vote it into law, and as for repealing it, when you guys have a good idea on how to do that, and replace it, and not become a minority party in the process, I am all ears.

You can't find any writing from me on this blog apart from the fact that I think it is a very hard issue with few good choices and lots of hard choices.

FullMoon said...

The vid links prove Hillary is lying. She watched video of the debate, and her team made up the lie as they watched. Fox just played her audio beside the video, there is no way she can even know Trump is standing behind her while she speaks.

This gonna backfire on her.

Chuck said...

...And the republicans in DC have a chance to pass all of the legislation their voters want...

The Senate Repeal & Replace bill polled at about 15% popularity. Before that, the House bill passed that chamber and then was so savaged in the press that the Media Consumer In Chief declared that the bill was "too mean."

Let me know when you figure out what it is that about 60% of the public really likes in health care. Apart from "more free stuff."

FullMoon said...

Ann Arbor Chuck reasons:

"I understand what you are saying. I understand, and I don't care."

That is why you guys lost. And, nice try lumping everyone in with Limbaugh and Hannity. Most here are independent who do not follow Hannity or Limbaugh as closely as you do. Doesn't take much perception to realize that.

You guys are dinosaurs. If Trump goes down, Dems will rule for decades.

Birkel said...

What ever happened to those two very important golf reporters who were going - proverbially - to blow the lid off the Trump Administration?

Have there been reports of PURPLE ELEPHANTS caught? Have any been returned to zoos?

New metaphor: Chaff.

Each new story is confusing the radar of LLRs and the MSM, birm.

wendybar said...

My skin crawls at the thought of a Corrupt lying Hillary Clinton getting that close to becoming president. Imagine how America feels when they chose Trump over HER!!! Same thing...that's why he is President and she isn't

EDH said...

tcrosse said...
I wonder what she has to say about sharing a stage with Bernie ?

He farts a lot?

Instead of her skin crawling: "My eyes felt the Burn."

Bay Area Guy said...

"You guys are dinosaurs. If Trump goes down, Dems will rule for decades."

I partly agree, but partly disagree.

First, I affirmatively don't want Trump to go down, and will actively support/defend him from the Get Trump crowd, which, as Achilles notes above, contains quite a few establishment Republicans.

But, even if somehow, some way he does go down, I'm not going to to simply stand by and tolerate Dem rule for decades. That would be disasterous for the country. If that were too happen, all sorts of political compromises will be made.

The first order of business is to thwart the "Get Trump" crowd, plain and simple, and not let Trump go down. That means retaining the GOP House Majority in 2018, and bird-dogging Mueller and the bogus Russian-Collusion hoax investigation.

If that happens, all talk of Trump going down will cease - at least until the 2020 election, when the Donald will be unleashed again in a reasonably fair fight, that he can win.




Achilles said...

Blogger Big Mike said...
"@Achilles,they aren't traitors and it's way past hyperbole to suggest that they are. They're just run of the mill politicians who've been bought. And probably for not all that much money."

You tell people you will fight for them. Pretend to fight when it doesn't matter. They give you both houses and the executive. You promptly undermine the executive and sandbag the platform that people voted for you to pass.

Because the enemies of the people who voted for you gave you some money.

Traitors.

MayBee said...

Her reading on the audio book is awful. Who could listen to that?

The Vault Dweller said...

I seem to remember in those debates Hillary moving around the stage a lot and Trump roughly standing still when Hillary was speaking. If Hillary felt like Donald was looming over her, it was because she put herself in the looming danger-zone.

Earnest Prole said...

When did American women become such victims? Can you imagine Margaret Thatcher saying something as whingey as that?

Achilles said...

The Antifa shithead getting shot in the nuts is all over social media.

60% of the country openly cheers.

Another 20% secretly cheers.

Don Lemon melts down.

Chuck "doesn't care."

Glorious.

Char Char Binks said...

Hilary is entitled to a lot more personal space than most people need.

Michael K said...

""@Achilles,they aren't traitors and it's way past hyperbole to suggest that they are."

I don't think the GOP Congress are traitors but I wonder if the Democrats might be.

Why did they employ those Pakistani IT staffers ? Why defend them when they were known to be misusing access ?

Why did DWS still pay that guy, Awan, after he had lost security clearance? Why threaten the Capitol Police chief ?

Andy McCarthy is suspicious of the indictment, which does not mention Pakistan.

Were those IT staffers working for Pakistan's ISI ?

The new leader of Pakistan is going to be hostile to us.

Pakistan’s political path took a twist in recent months with the ascendancy of charismatic sports-star-turned-politician Imran Khan. The fervent opponent of America’s war on terror used the courts to oust Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in July and is looking to use the momentum from that legal victory to propel him to power.

Mr. Khan has been on the political scene for two decades leading a small but vocal party opposed to what he sees as the crooked political dynasties of Mr. Sharif and the other established party.

Mr. Sharif’s removal has weakened the ruling party and thrust Mr. Khan and his Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party into real contention in elections due within the next year.

Mr. Khan’s surge is already shaping the political terrain by, among other things, pushing opinion in Pakistan more sharply against the country’s close security ties to the U.S. He advocates a sharp break with the U.S. antiterror alliance, spurning aid that comes with conditions that he says have proved too costly for Pakistan.


That's OK with me. I would cut them off completely.

In the meantime, I wonder if the ISI has been running our Afghan policy and maybe our Iran policy.

n.n said...

Perfect. As for Hillary, she and Bill are a matched pair forevermore.

Ray said...

>You guys are dinosaurs. If Trump goes down, Dems will rule for decades.

Trump is Trump, and for good or bad, he is not the Republican Party. He is the party of Trump. He does not appear to be building a party. Republicans at the state level have been their most successful yet. And until the Democrats change the message / strategy, I don't see any major changes. Trump may even do more damage to the Democratic Party. Trump keeps on smashing Overton Windows in the US Culture. And you have 3 1/2 more years of actions to reduce regulations by his administration. And who knows, may be Congress will even pass some needed legislation to help the economy?

More interesting question is what comes next for the Republican and Democratic Party? I believe both parties would rather forget about Trump.

Ray said...

I still have not figured out why did Hillary write this book?

I believe most people would she rather just go away.

Todd said...

MayBee said...
Her reading on the audio book is awful. Who could listen to that?

8/23/17, 12:57 PM


Listening to Hillary read an audio book. Aren't there some world court rules prohibiting inhuman punishment and torture?

walter said...

The book will make bathroom material.
I wonder if the book on tape will feature one of her character voices...or cackles.

Fabi said...

Trump voter Chuck in all his dissociative glory.

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