August 23, 2017

At the Green Café...

P1150112

... keep the conversation fresh and vital and moist.

And would it kill you to do some shopping through The Althouse Amazon Portal?

165 comments:

Patrick said...

This post by Mike Rowe is well worth reading. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1639271342749669&id=116999698310182&__tn__=%2As%2As-R

Nonapod said...

Good grief. A jury just awarded $417 million to a woman who claims she got cancer from Johnson & Johnson's talc powder.

brylun said...

Navy replaces commander of 7th Fleet after latest collision

buwaya said...

Re J&J -

I have mentioned that one of the dings on the US economy as a place to invest is the risk premiums are rather high. Investment analysis at a certain level includes a forecast of rates of return that considers necessary increases in required returns due to various categories of risk.

Legal risk in the US is very high vs other developed economies.

This certainly is a factor in reducing employment, especially in anything "physical", as one has to meet a higher rate of return to cover such risks.

Jersey Fled said...

Tried to post a link here yesterday and it didn't work. How do you do it? I'm on an Android device if that makes any difference.

Greg said...

This Green Cafe picture isn't as interesting as the last one, which seemed to be a future depiction of Mount Rushmore after the new liberals get their way

AJ Lynch said...

I was going to buy the movie Apoculypto by Mel Gibson that showed how good the native Americans had it before the white man ruined things. But Amazon wants like $20 for this ten year old movie!

Jersey Fled said...

Lawyers are missing the boat by just focusing on women's vaginas. What about us poor men who have had our necks dusted with a cloud of talc for decades at the barber shop?

rhhardin said...

Smooth Sumac commits suicide by wind by growing too high and having too much leaf area. Also they die off for no apparent reason from time to time.

On the other hand, they propagate very fast.

One plus is that they're a very lightweight wood so you can drag a pretty big one across the lawn to the back fence with no trouble, and a pruning pole cuts right through any branches that fit in the slot.

Nonapod said...

Tried to post a link here yesterday and it didn't work. How do you do it? I'm on an Android device if that makes any difference.

It's just regular old html

So for this:

Google

Use this:

<a href="https://www.google.com">Google</a>

jwl said...

I have quibbles about rankings but all my favourite comedies made top one hundred.

-------------

So this year BBC Culture decided to get serious about comedy. We asked 253 film critics – 118 women and 135 men – from 52 countries and six continents a simple: “What do you think are the 10 best comedies of all time?” Films from any country made since cinema was invented were eligible, and BBC Culture did nothing to define in advance what a comedy is; we left that to each of the critics to decide.

The results are illuminating in other ways. They show that men and women have very similar comedic tastes, with a few key points of divergence – women were much more inclined to vote for Clueless while guys stumped for Animal House. And there’s evidence that comedy is not universal, that what’s considered a joke in English dialogue may not survive translation ...

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170821-the-100-greatest-comedies-of-all-time

Michael K said...

Talc was eliminated from glove powder years ago because it does cause a chronic reaction that plays hell in the peritoneal cavity. I've not heard of cancer.

Was Edwards her lawyer ?

rhhardin said...

If the link isn't really long or complicated, just put it up as text.

The modern browser has an "open link in new tab" that works just about as easily as a real link, and you get to inspect where you're going.

jwl said...

BBC Culture

Michael K said...

"The Echeverria case was the first California talc case to go to trial, and the jury's massive figure will set a new standard for the many talc cases to come. Hundreds more are in earlier stages of litigation in California alone."

California again. Lunacy reigns supreme.

Ovarian cancer has no known connection to talc. I wonder if the judge will throw out at least the punitive damages ?

brylun said...

A.J. Lynch: Have you tried your local public library for movie videos?

AllenS said...

So, what about Dingle Norwood?

tcrosse said...

Lawyers are missing the boat by just focusing on women's vaginas.

Story of my life.

Fernandinande said...

Not-so-great-Britain:

Seven police officers stormed home belonging to Claudia Settimo-Bovio, 73

They seized her Yorkshire terrier [ ~ 7 pounds] Alfie, ten, after he chased after a delivery man

They added: 'The dog's behaviour and temperament will be assessed by an expert from the Met's Status Dog Unit which will inform what further action may be necessary.'

Police told the 73-year-old she won't be reunited with Alfie until they have questioned two more witnesses.

The driver was left with only a graze on his waist, she claimed, but insisted on being taken to hospital.

+++

I'll betcha $0.10 that the driver is a muslim who freaked out, or pretended to freak out, when a dinky harmless dog barked at him.

Saint Croix said...

What is the best cover song you have ever heard?

My vote is Ring of Fire by Blondie.

And my #2 cover song of all time is Ring of Fire by Johnny Cash.

Damn that's a good song!

Fernandinande said...

"She said Alfie never attacked the delivery man but claimed he fell over.

The grandmother said: 'As soon as he saw my dog he was screaming like a lunatic, screaming, 'He's killing me'. People came running out because they thought someone was being attacked.'"

Darrell said...

The BBC thinks Chris Evans (their presenter, not Captain America) is funny. What do they know?

Hagar said...

The 100 funniest movies according to the BBC, and no mention of Alec Guinness?
Or Clochemerle?

Or the single funniest scene ever of Rex Harrison's wife playing the trumpet in "Genevieve"?

madAsHell said...

I've been following the story of Missouri state senator Maria Chappelle Nadal. She's the one who wished for a Trump assassination.

I've come to the conclusion that she, like Kathy Griffin, is living in a narrative bubble. She believes everything in the newspaper, and assumed her remarks were well within the Overton window. I'm encouraged that the Missouri state senate has removed all of her committee assignments, and effectively reduced her to a minister without portfolio.

How will she play the race card?

I just checked Kathy Griffin tour calendar. It's still empty.

Ray said...

>Legal risk in the US is very high vs other developed economies.

When one party gets tremendous funding from trial lawyers, I don't expect much of a change.

It's terrifying the TV ads that play in So. CA during the day promising payouts if you sue over, basically anything. If your a business owner, you need to ask, is there any way I can avoid hiring a person to avoid this potential liability? CEO's need to spend a lot of time worrying about being sued. And I think it was at Coyote Blog, who mentioned $25K was the minimal charge to fight even a BS lawsuit.

And there are more and more added laws and regulations. I should finish the book 3 Felonies a Day, which you can buy through the Althouse via Amazon.

If the government wanted to get serious on the economy, they would work on reducing the legal risk.

Unknown said...

Covers?

Well if you're going to mention Cash, then:

Hurt

Tuck & Patty: "Time After Time"

Beach Boys:

Hushabye

I Can Hear Music

Sloop John B

Tank said...

@Saint

Ring of Fire is a great song, but that Blondie cover is painfully bad. I mean BAD.

Fernandinande said...

Ray said...
And there are more and more added laws and regulations. I should finish the book 3 Felonies a Day, which you can buy through the Althouse via Amazon.


It's online as a PDF; it does document out-of-control persecuting 'n' lawyering, but the content doesn't support the title.

They omit my favorite: 8 years in prison for importing small lobsters wrapped in plastic, as well as another "Lacey Act" atrocity, Gibson guitars being raided over whether their wood was cut in the US or in India.

If the government wanted to get serious on the economy, they would work on reducing the legal risk.

If "The People" wanted to get serious they'd quit electing a bunch of scummy lawyers.
"Sixty percent of the U.S. Senate is lawyers."

Michael K said...

If your a business owner, you need to ask, is there any way I can avoid hiring a person to avoid this potential liability?

I was in a jury pool in Orange County one time when a lawyer during voir dire asked if anyone had been sued. All hands went up. Most of the pool was Newport Beach contractors.

Eventually the case ended with a mistrial in voir dire.

Fernandinande said...

AJ Lynch said...
I was going to buy the movie Apoculypto


Great movie! Get it from your library or here.

Pianoman said...

Favorite cover is "You Really Got Me" by Oingo Boingo

Humperdink said...

Not realizing he was black, the antifa movement has demanded the US government withdraw all honors from George Washington Carver.

Static Ping said...

The problem with selecting the greatest cover ever is there are many performances that are technically covers but the originals are obscure so no one realizes it other than music nerds.

I think the most interesting cover situation is "The First Cut Is the Deepest." It was originally a Cat Stevens song, which no one remembers. Rod Stewart's cover (1977) is the one that was the definitive version, going to #1 in the UK and #3 Adult Contemporary in the US. Then came Sheryl Crow's cover (2003) which charted better in the United States and, in my opinion, is significantly better than Rod's version. Rod's version is good, but Sheryl pretty much owns that song now.

If you made me choose now without doing research, I'd go with "All Along the Watchtower" by Jimi Hendrix, originally by Bob Dylan.

tim in vermont said...

Funny how nobody is bringing up tort reform now that the votes are putatively there.

Darrell said...

Funny how nobody is bringing up tort reform now that the votes are putatively there.

Because Chuck's Uniparty Republican heroes are no better than the Democrat Lefty scum across the aisle. All of their days are numbered.

Chuck said...

tim in vermont said...
Funny how nobody is bringing up tort reform now that the votes are putatively there.

That's not true. The votes aren't there.

See, the Senate and House were trying to run health care reform as a "reconciliation" bill. Because they knew they couldn't overcome a Senate filibuster. They can't do tort reform as reconciliation. Tort reform could not pass the current Senate, because the trial lawyers are the unofficial paymasters of the Democratic Party, and it is a dealbreaker issue for them.

The filibuster is a very big reason why health care reform couldn't be done as a broader bill.

Chuck said...

Darrell I was writing my 1:05 post as you posted your 1:04 post.

So I didn't have the opportunity to say, "fuck you." You ignorant clown.

Nonapod said...

Generally I like covers that significantly diverge from the tone of the original, and being a fan of metal, punk, and aggressive music in general; I love it when someone takes something mellow and adds a bit of heaviness to it.

For example, Social Distortion does my favorite version of "Ring of Fire". I also like- Type-O-Negative's goth-doom version of Seals and Croft's "Summer Breeze" and Adrenaline Mob's metal version of Duran Duran's "Come Undone".

And anything by the group Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. They're a cover-only group that basically do fantastic catchy punk versions of well know mainstream tunes mostly from the 70s and 80s (stuff like Elton John, Billy Joel, Eagles, Paul Simon, ect). I highly recommend them.

Chuck said...

btw; Since I am an ardent supporter of tort reform, it pains me a bit to admit it, but the vast majority of tort cases (in terms of products liability, medical malpractice, pharmaceutical injury claims, and other personal injury claims) are state-court cases. And even when they are diversity-jurisdiction federal court cases, they are conducted pursuant to state law, not federal law.

Which is not to say that federal legislation is useless. All of the expanding federal programs (a problem all on their own) could confer some federal jurisdiction for lawmaking and regulation.

Darrell said...

Darrell I was writing my 1:05 post as you posted your 1:04 post.

Thanks for your life story, Numbnuts.
That's why Althouse's idea of banning you was such a good one. I wish she'd have made it a reality.

J. Farmer said...

@Tank:

Ring of Fire is a great song, but that Blondie cover is painfully bad. I mean BAD.

Wow. I always loved Blondie's cover of that song. My father is a big Johnny Cash fan, and I heard his rendition of Ring of Fire many many times growing up. I'll second the other commenter who mentioned Cash's cover of Nine Inch Nail's Hurt. My father is big into the outlaw country genre, but Cash always seemed like kind of a phony. Although, I loved the American Recordings series he created with Rick Rubin.

As far as best cover versions, I always appreciated Cocker's With a Little Help From My Friend, but that might be because I always loathed the Beatles version. In fact, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band has to be high on the list of most overrated albums of all time. I have listened to it from beginning to end on a few occasions and have hated more and more with each subsequent listening.

EDH said...

The shark panic on Cape Cod is just like "Jaws" returns to Amity. Look at the headlines now at the Herald.

Unbelievable! (Well, except the headline about Revere Beach, north of Boston.)

Shark attacks paddleboarder off Cape Cod beach, man escapes. A man paddleboarding in 3 feet of water off Marconi Beach in Wellfleet was attacked by a shark this morning -- with the predator leaving teeth marks on the board, a beach official tells the Herald. "The paddleboard was bit. He was not," said Interim Park Superintendent Kathy Tevyaw. "We got the call at about 10 o'clock this morning. We sent staff immediately.

Read More
RELATED STORIES

Latest shark incident prompts Cape Cod politician to push deadly plan

Conservationist: Killing white sharks won’t ‘make your beaches any safer’

Beachgoer after shark encounter: ‘We’re gambling with our lives’

Despite concerns, odds of shark attack remain highly unlikely

Police: Teen girl sexually assaulted at Revere Beach

Big Mike said...

With all due respect, Darrell, I think Chuck's analysis is pretty much spot on. However I think that the GOP should still push healthcare reform despite the threat of a filibuster. They should force the Democrats to vote against popular legislation, so that their votes can be used against the Democrats as campaign issues in 2018 and 2020. Back when the Democrats held the Senate (2987 - 1995 and 2007 - 2015) they were not afraid to do that to Republicans.

mockturtle said...

Latest shark incident prompts Cape Cod politician to push deadly plan

Conservationist: Killing white sharks won’t ‘make your beaches any safer’

Beachgoer after shark encounter: ‘We’re gambling with our lives’

Despite concerns, odds of shark attack remain highly unlikely

Police: Teen girl sexually assaulted at Revere Beach


...by a white shark?

Fernandinande said...

Latest shark incident = shark attacks a seal.

jwl said...

My three fav covers:

Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse Valerie

Muse Feeling Good

Futurehead Hounds of Love

Chuck said...

Big Mike said...
With all due respect, Darrell, I think Chuck's analysis is pretty much spot on. However I think that the GOP should still push healthcare reform despite the threat of a filibuster.

Big Mike I agree!

Push big health reform! Big repeal and replace! Let the Dems filibuster it! Forget reconciliation!

I have not checked with my GOP Establishment overlords on this one. I have not received permission to float this idea. But I always hated the reconciliation option.

tim in vermont said...

Finally shark attacks! I was beginning to think it wasn't August.

Fernandinande said...

Howlin' Wolf's "Red Rooster"
Iron Horse's "Paranoid"
Tom Jones' "Gimme Shelter"
Wall of Voodoo's "Ring of Fire"

EDH said...

Even I have to admit this one was kinda too close to shore for comfort .

tim in vermont said...

Chuck, you should look up putatively and think about the concepts of irony and sarcasm. Your precious Republican mainstream was all for tort reform when it didn't have a prayer. Now that it's possible, the votes are not there.

See, I put it into standard English for you. Things like this are why I hate Ryan, he's another Cantor.

pacwest said...

Darrell,
You have anything to add to this blog other than your attacks on other commenters?

Jersey Fled said...

Thanks Nonapod!

Chuck said...

tim in vermont said...
Chuck, you should look up putatively and think about the concepts of irony and sarcasm. Your precious Republican mainstream was all for tort reform when it didn't have a prayer. Now that it's possible, the votes are not there.

See, I put it into standard English for you. Things like this are why I hate Ryan, he's another Cantor.

The more "plain" that you make it, the more wrong you get.

There wasn't any tort reform in the Senate health care bill. Because you can't do tort reform as reconciliation.

Tort reform, when and if it is attempted, runs into a Senate filibuster by the Dems, even with every Republican voting "Aye."

tim in vermont said...

I was talking about when Obamacare was passed. Let the Democrats filibuster it. Let them force a shutdown to prtect the rice bowl of rich lawyers.

buwaya said...

Reform is not always possible.

Over the long term it never is.
All systems fail because they become decadent and inefficient, until the state is replaced, usually through some traumatic process.

Sometimes reform can happen as a sort of internal revolution. This is a bit much to hope for.
But the only way that is going to work is to throw away all notions of precedent and process.
Not only must you all think out of the box, but that box has to be entirely discarded.

Chuck said...

tim in vermont said...
I was talking about when Obamacare was passed. Let the Democrats filibuster it. Let them force a shutdown to prtect the rice bowl of rich lawyers.

Again, Tim; Obamacare was mostly run through the Senate when the Dems had 60 votes and were filibuster-proof. Unlike the current slim Republican majority.

And in the end for the final votes, it was run through on reconciliation.

A big part of the many problems with Obamacare was that it was pushed through in that fashion.

Michael K said...

"Tort reform, when and if it is attempted, runs into a Senate filibuster by the Dems, even with every Republican voting "Aye."

This is a good reason to end the filibuster. Trump talked about that in Phoenix.

Of course McConnell will decide but, if nothing passes and he does not go for the nuclear option, he might get primaried in Kentucky in 2020.

The repeal and replace needs to go without the filibuster.

I agree that tort reform is mostly a state issue. It's tax reform and Obamacare repeal that should be priorities.

Big Mike said...

@Chuck, it isn't a question of reconciliation or what the Republican "overlords" ( I presume you mean the really big donors) want or don't want. It's about forcing Democrats running for reelection to choose between voting the party line and have a campaign issue that might cost them reelection vs breaking ranks and voting for reform. Why is this hard? Reid used to pull this stunt all the time.

IIRC half of the Democrat senators (23 out of 46) and both of the alleged independents are up for reelection in 2018. Hold their feet to the fire!

AJ Lynch said...

Brylun:

Good suggestion t try the public library to borrow movie DVD's. i will check it out. Thanks!

Darrell said...

Mitch McConnell Heading toward recess--as voters see him. Better shape up, Republican Chuckheads.

http://i.imgur.com/5alp022.gif

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Cover song?

The great KD Lang singing Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah

Bad Lieutenant said...

pacwest said...
Darrell,
You have anything to add to this blog other than your attacks on other commenters?

8/23/17, 2:00 PM


pacwest, you should know who you're defending, before you defend him.

Paddy O said...

I might be making this up, or seeing trends where there aren't any, but I'm getting the impression that Chuck doesn't like Trump and that others disagree with him.

Sorry if I'm reading into things.

traditionalguy said...

As a lawyer who understands Insurance Defense lawyers tricks, I can assure you Tort Reform is a total fraud. The medical profession is already well protected from reforms over the last 20 years. This Tort Reform simply eliminates all legitimate tort civil actions for negligence. That will increase the number of horribly injured and uncompensated families by hundreds of thousands per year.

But I can assure you that McConnell and all his RINOS will find a way to vote for it in exchange for the millions in Campaign Donations they receive from Corporate Lobbyists who own them.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Somewhere over the rainbow
By
Israel "IZ" Kamakawiwoʻole

buwaya said...

Sailer in Taki -

http://takimag.com/article/war_of_the_classes_steve_sailer/print#axzz4qM8yXeGe

War of the Classes

...
Why are politicians today going out of their way to disrespect Confederate soldiers who died in Union prison camps more than 150 years ago? Because they can. Because this kind of vandalism is a classic turf-marking exercise understood by even the dimmest juvenile delinquents. Because desecration of memorials to the dead signifies that their living heirs are vulnerable to rapacity.
...
This jihad by the rich against the one group competent enough to even potentially offer them effective resistance takes weirdly symbolic forms. For example, the defender of the common man, Andrew Jackson, is being booted off the currency, while the paladin of the plutocrats, Alexander Hamilton, has been retconned into a woke Person of Color in the most expensive Broadway musical in history.

This is class war disguised as race war.

mockturtle said...

Paddy-O asserts: I might be making this up, or seeing trends where there aren't any, but I'm getting the impression that Chuck doesn't like Trump and that others disagree with him.

Sorry if I'm reading into things.


Yes, you are, Paddy. This is FAKE NEWS. Nothing of the sort. Chuck has been singing Trump's praises since well before the election and we have all heartily agreed with him. Can't imagine why you would think otherwise.

Chuck said...

traditionalguy said...
As a lawyer who understands Insurance Defense lawyers tricks, I can assure you Tort Reform is a total fraud. The medical profession is already well protected from reforms over the last 20 years. This Tort Reform simply eliminates all legitimate tort civil actions for negligence. That will increase the number of horribly injured and uncompensated families by hundreds of thousands per year.

But I can assure you that McConnell and all his RINOS will find a way to vote for it in exchange for the millions in Campaign Donations they receive from Corporate Lobbyists who own them.

Well there ya go! It should be easy for you to pick sides. Pretty much every Republican supports tort reform in some form or fashion. And pretty much every Democrat opposes it, knowing where their financing comes from (trial lawyers).

So just smile, and register yourself as a Democrat. You'll also be able to sign on to pro-LGBT legislation, pro-choice abortion funding, and the nomination of more federal judges than we can count, who will also side with trial lawyers.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Good analysis of the Afghanistan speech:
http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2017/08/were-taking-2nd-ausfahrt-prior-to.html

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

Much hilarity about the ESPN/Robert Lee thing today at work. Some pretty apolitical people and, if they recognize the Left's insanity, then it's safe to say that it isn't escaping most folk's notice.

Michael K said...

This Tort Reform simply eliminates all legitimate tort civil actions for negligence. That will increase the number of horribly injured and uncompensated families by hundreds of thousands per year.<

I beg to differ. I don't know the details of present proposals in Congress, but California put through a very good reform in 1975 that kept insurance rates sensible and I don't think hurt any injured patient in that time.

I spent 20 years acting as expert witness for both plaintiff and defense, At one time I was thinking of writing a book about how to use expert witnesses as I had seen so much bad lawyering.

The basics are that economic damages was fully insured. Noneconomic ("pain and suffering") was limited to $250,000, which might be too low now.

There were other provisions that meant much less.

I testified in other states including New York and Alabama.

The guy I used to review cases for in Alabama, maybe the best plaintiff lawyer I knew, told me that his firm was getting out of med-mal because the jury pool had been so poisoned by the big mass tort cases like silicone breast and asbestos and tobacco that it was hard to win a good case.

I doubt federal tort reform will do much but they could go after the giant crooked law firms, maybe.

Darrell said...

pacwest said...
Darrell,
You have anything to add to this blog other than your attacks on other commenters?


Sure. Check the live posts and the archives. Certainly more than you have contributed. And that's assuming you are not a sockpuppet of Inga or one of Althouse's other Lefties.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

3 Arrested As Hundreds Protest UNC Chapel Hill "Silent Sam" Confederate memorial

NC Govenor: UNC May Take "Immediate Measures" To Remove Silent Sam

Remember when all the smart people--the good, moral people--said it was just a matter of getting rid of monuments that glorified bad Confederate leaders? That it would stop there 'cause they'd oppose tearing down memorials to individual soldiers--they wouldn't tolerate the mob bringing down war memorials, no sir.


From Wiki: The statue was funded by the University Alumni and the United Daughters of the Confederacy. It was erected in 1913 as a memorial to the Confederate alumni who lost their lives in the American Civil War and all students who joined the Confederate States Army.[3] More than one thousand members of the university fought in the American Civil War in either the Northern or Southern armies, comprising at least 40% of the student body, a statistic that was unequaled by any other university

The statue was created in 1911, the 50th anniversary of the start of the Civil War. It memorializes alumni who fought in that war.

But yeah, I'm the asshole for saying that this is exactly what would happen. Good thing the smart, moral people will now turn back the howling mob, huh?! I'll wait over here.

reader said...

DBQ you are spot on concerning "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".

"Sound of Silence" Disturbed
"You're the One That I Want" The Lennings
"I Only Want to Be With You" Volbeat

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Baltimore: 1792 Monument To Columbus Smashed

That monument stood for two and a quarter centuries, but now it's getting smashed.
Nice work, people who "just agreed with the mob this one time."

Todd said...

You can't talk covers without mentioning Eric Clapton's cover of Bob Marley's "I shot the sheriff".

Michael K said...

I wonder when the Red Guards will dig up George and Martha Washington and burn down Mount Vernon?

I see no reasonable end point to this hysteria.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

I'd like to hear the Professor's take, from a freedom of speech standpoint, of all the tech companies working overtime to "no platform" highly unpopular far-right organizations (neo nazi sites like the Daily Stormer, etc). Google and Facebook are removing sites and links, Paypal & Patreon are banning organizations, and so on. It's not strictly a 1A issue, but we all know freedom of speech is about more than just the government's actions.

I do find it a bit amusing that the same companies who hosted (and defended hosting!) ISIS sites, who allow ISIS magazines to be pushed on their infrastructure, and who in the course of arguing for Net Neutrality swore up and down that they simply aren't able to discriminate in terms of content (certainly not for viewpoint reasons!) are now proudly doing exactly that.

Kinda makes you think.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Songs where the cover is better:
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Johnny Cash - Hurt (NIN)
Byrds - Mr Tamboruine Man (Dylan)
Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower (Dylan)
Whitney Housong - that song from Bodyguard (Dolly Parton)
Gary Jules - Mad World (Tears for Fears)
William Shatner - Common People (Pulp)
Talking Heads - The River (Al Green)
Guns & Roses - Live & Let Die (Wings)
Tainted Love - Soft Cell (folk-rock chick)
Rolling Stones - Not Fade Away (Buddy Holly?)
Aretha Franklin - Respect (Redding)
Joe Cocker - Help from my friends (Beatles)

Songs where the cover is just as good:
Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley & Lenoard Cohen
Man Who Sold the World - Nirvana unplugged & David Bowi
I Will Survive - Cake and the Gloria Gaynor
Whiskey in the Jar - Metallica and The Dubliners
I fought the Law - Clash & Bob Fuller
Baker Street - Foo Fighters & Rafferty
Take On Me - A-Ha & Reel Big Fish
Personal Jesus - Johnny Cash & Depeche Mode
Nico & Jackson Browne - These Days (Royal Tennenbaums sndtrk)
Lake of Fire - Nirvana unplugged & Meat Puppets

jwl said...

Sarah Mclachlan Rainbow Connection

Ray said...

I am afraid tech companies are no platforming even those that may be linked from a wrong think website.

I think this is what happened to Prof. Mehta. Do a search on Salil Mehta DailyStormer in DuckDuckGo and you will see what I mean. My guess is this explains why he got no platformed, which is terrifying.

reader said...

I grew up loving "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell, but now I prefer Claire Guerreso's version.

Jack Wayne said...

If you're singing about fire, my vote is for Nilsson's' "Jump into the fire".

Fabi said...

The Black Crowes covering Otis Redding's Hard to Handle.

Fabi said...

Wilson Pickett covering The Beatles' Hey Jude featuring Duane Allman on lead guitar.

Ken B said...

Best cover? Maybe Hound Dog by Elvis (really it's a cover) or Always on my mind by the Pet Shop Boys.

J. Farmer said...

@HoodlumDoodlum:

Excellent list. I agree with almost everything on it. I would add one more, though, but I'm not sure in which column...

Sweet Dreams - Marilyn Manson (Eurythmics)

J. Farmer said...

Jack Wayne:

If you're singing about fire, my vote is for Nilsson's' "Jump into the fire".

Excellent song, but I don't believe that's a cover; it was written and origially recorded by Nilsson if I am not mistaken. However, his cover of Without You, originally done by Badfinger and on the same album as Jump Into Fire, is fantastic.

Ken B said...

Michael K
The end point is polls showing the Democrats losing.

Char Char Binks said...

"Good grief. A jury just awarded $417 million to a woman who claims she got cancer from Johnson & Johnson's talc powder."

Speaking of fresh vital and moist.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Aretha Franklin doing Respect.

Otis Redding was the original.

Actually the lyrics make more sense from the man's point of view. But...I think she did the song better. A more peppy musical arrangement, plus the 'whoop' girls in the back ground.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Otis Redding....singing Respect

link was broken

HoodlumDoodlum said...

New Clinton Memoir: 'We All Made Mistakess, But You Made Most of Them' (Onion)

antiphone said...

What is the best cover song you have ever heard?

There are so many great ones but El Vez is my favorite cover artist.

Taking Care of Business for example.

Saint Croix said...

And anything by the group Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. They're a cover-only group that basically do fantastic catchy punk versions of well know mainstream tunes mostly from the 70s and 80s (stuff like Elton John, Billy Joel, Eagles, Paul Simon, ect). I highly recommend them.

Ditto!

Uptown Girl

Rocket Man

Wild World

what a fucking awesome party band this would be!

Saint Croix said...

Sloop John B is an awesome song

Narayanan Subramanian said...

How is threat of filibuster by Democrats different from threat of nuclear attack by Kim Jong Un?
If Republicans hide under bed for the first how will they react to other?

Saint Croix said...

Here's Wall of Voodoo playing June Carter Cash

Browndog said...

The defendants affiliated with the Bundy ranch standoff were acquitted/hung jury yesterday in Nevada. Despite the kangaroo court with a clearly corrupt judge, justice sort of prevailed..

Odd, that no one on either political spectrum with touch this with a 10 ft. pole. Similarly, the Waco biker shitshow is set to start in a couple weeks.

The judiciary, rule of law, is all that bind a civil society. I am ashamed that society turns a blind eye when the 'defendants' are less than desirable.

Saint Croix said...

and here is Sting rocking I Saw Three Ships

Browndog said...

Wall of Voodoo and Oingo Boingo on the same Althouse thread?

Nice.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

The lawyer for Gore in Florida who basically lied about case law is tort billionaire.

buwaya said...

"The defendants affiliated with the Bundy ranch standoff were acquitted/hung jury yesterday in Nevada. Despite the kangaroo court with a clearly corrupt judge, justice sort of prevailed.."

Back in the day, this, plus the Lavoy Finicum incident, would have served as the theme for a Frank Capra movie, with Jimmy Stewart for certain. The setup is ideal - populist cowboys (Real Cowboys!) against an oppressive state and its corrupt instruments.

If there actually was a gunfight it would have been a John Ford movie.

Saint Croix said...

Otis Redding has two great ones

Try a Little Tenderness

Satisfaction

brylun said...

I didn't watch Trump's speech in Phoenix last night, so I looked on YouTube and found FoxNews stream of the speech. As I'm listening, the President is talking about Obamacare and says "Gruber got fired" and I'm thinking, I didn't hear about that. So I google "Gruber got fired" and found the story in the Daily Caller, dated 8/20/17. Reading the story, there was a settlement between Gruber and the State of Vermont where Gruber agreed he wouldn't bill the state for any alleged fees owed and he would no longer work for Vermont, the settlement agreed to by a Dem Atty General. The story was also reported in the Rutland Herald. So then I thought, did the NY Times, Washington Post, or even the supposedly conservative Wall Street Journal have a story on Gruber? So I searched each site and there was no Gruber story.

What is happening to our media?

Browndog said...

I'm more worried about another Randy Weaver/Waco, resulting in another Oklahoma City.

Hence, I'm not entertained.

Static Ping said...

"Whiskey in the Jar" is a traditional Irish song. Basically every version is a cover unless you can track down the original minstrel. The Dubliners was a variation on the song, so maybe that version can be considered original somehow.

It was once not unusual for a song to be covered by multiple artists at the same time. A songwriter would release a song and every artist that thought they could sing it well would do their own version. The Billboard charts had a chart specifically for most popular song combining all the different versions out there. The most extreme version is "To Each His Own" which went to #1 in 1946 for Eddy Howard, Freddy Martin & His Orchestra, and The Ink Spots, as well as hitting #4 for Tony Martin and #3 for The Modernaires with Paula Kelly. The song was half the Top 10 some weeks with all five versions charting simultaneously. Eddy went to #1 first (3 weeks), succeeded by Freddy (2 weeks), then after a one week respite for Sinatra singing something else came The Ink Spots moment (one week), then Sinatra again for another week, and finally Eddy bookending the thing for another two weeks.

Browndog said...

What is happening to our media?

Exactly what you think.

buwaya said...

"What is happening to our media?"

What I've been saying for years. They are a managed Ministry of Propaganda serving a cabal of economic interests inimical to the American middle class. They are instruments of the ongoing social class/caste war.

They (most if not all the usually recognized MSM) are centrally managed and coordinated.

Gahrie said...

Covers I like:
Oingo Boingo's version of You Really Got Me",
Johnny Cash's Hurt,
Jimi's All Along the Watchtower,
Israel's Somewhere Over the Rainbow,
Aretha's Respect

antiphone said...

Radioheads "Creep" done by Prince

Bad Lieutenant said...

Foo Fighters Baker Street - not meh, feh!

Michael K said...

"I'm more worried about another Randy Weaver/Waco, resulting in another Oklahoma City."

We had our Ruby Ridge moment and you can't find it on the media.

The four defendants in the Bundy third trial were all acquitted.

The jury in the trial the feds put Randy Weaver through wanted to indict the FBI sniper who killed his wife.
The group was first tried earlier this year -- with a trial ending in April -- but the jury wasn't able reach verdicts against the four individuals.

In the same trial, however, another two Cliven Bundy ranch standoff participants, Gregory Burleson and Todd Engel, were found guilty on some charges.


The Oregon BUndy trail also ended in acquittal.

Maybe now with Obama gone, the feds will start to look for criminals.

PJ said...

Up On The Roof, Laura Nyro.

brylun said...

I'm wondering why Main Justice doesn't take the Awan case from the Obama lawyers in the U.S. Attorney's office?

brylun said...

Andrew McCarthy's National Review story: The Very Strange Indictment of Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s IT Scammers

tim in vermont said...

Johnny Cash was no phoney, and has done a lot of great covers.

brylun said...

And maybe give Wasserman Shultz's brother some drug cases to prosecute instead?

Fabi said...

One of my favorites, antiphone!

eddie willers said...

Otis Redding has two great ones

Three. The third one played as Norma and Big Ed finally got together after 25 years in the town of Twin Peaks last week.

"I've Been Loving You Too Long": Big Ed & Norma

brylun said...

Arrested Dem IT staffer's attorney is MAJOR Clinton ally

antiphone said...

When the Levy Breaks, most people know the Led Zeppelin version but the original is from 1927

Bob Ellison said...

On the covering front, this is worth a listen:

Disturbed: "The Sound of Silence"

A song that most artists would not touch. How do you beat Simon and Garfunkel?

But Disturbed meets the goal. Not better, maybe, but equal. And that guy's vocal range-- disturbingly good.

Feste said...

“ ... and moist ...”

Trump Pissing Sugar

Trump incompletely metabolized Bannon-protectionism before Trump became Banon-intolerant, leaving Trump’s new byproduct of globally oriented piss with glycosuric high levels of sugar, wherever Trump omnidirectionally pisses, which is why WaPo is now passively drinking (while denying it) Trump’s global sugar piss, while pretending actively only to diss the half-catheterized, but not cock contained, Bannon. It’s not that Bannon’s protectionism really solves Mundell–Fleming’s pissy international economic three-headed dick trilemma, that is, not as much as Bannon’s protectionism offers a mere passing urea phase state solution to the otherwise toxic global methane emissions of the Mundell–Fleming economic problem. Maybe Trump is the sole possessor of the numbers solving Mundell–Fleming’s pissing contest, and maybe Trump is keeping those sacred number solutions locked in a black box modular region inside his highest-IQ, and his “good gene” big brain. Until Trump plays his cards and shows his numbers, the more incompletely Trump metabolizes Bannon’s protectionism, and the more Trump is pissing sugar water that pleases the global-open-wide sucking palates of deep throated WaPo.

brylun said...

Trump says get rid of the filibuster. I agree!

antiphone said...

Nick Cave doing Leonard Cohen's Tower Of Song

Mary Beth said...

One of my favorite covers is Noel Gallagher singing This Guy's In Love With You.

If you want something that's a real change from the original, then Gin and Juice by The Gourds is a treat.

antiphone said...

Neil Young doing Dylan's just like tom thumb's blues

brylun said...

There Goes Charlie Hebdo, Practicing Free Speech Again

pacwest said...

"pacwest, you should know who you're defending, before you defend him."

Not defending anybody. That's their own job. I've been a reader since the start of this blog, so I know the personalities. Just tired of the ones that are in constant attack mode and assume any agreement across the aisle makes you a "sock puppet". A few of the righties on this blog are as bad as the worst of the lefties in that regard. I agree with 75% of what 90% of the conservatives on this site have to say, so I know where I stand in the commenting scale. I said pretty much the same thing to the Cracker guy who's every post was about his black victim identity as I did to Darrell. I'm not here to be everyone's friend. I'm here to listen to opinions that can help me learn. They can come from both sides sometimes. I will admit that the preponderance of them come from right leaning people though. Always willing to check my premises.

brylun said...

Ok, here's my concession to the music thread: Eleanor Rigby covered by Godhead

Ralph L said...

Alien Ant Farm's Smooth Criminal

Ann Althouse said...

Thanks for introducing a topic and running with it.

I will offer The Beatles "Twist and Shout."

Snark said...

On covers: Manfred Mann's Blinded by the Light. To chime in on other songs mentioned, Thin Lizzy's Whiskey in the Jar and Bon Jovi's live version of Hallelujah. Bon Jovi captured the bitterness of that song that other artists interpret as something more like melancholy.

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Snark said...

The equally late and great Warren Zevon did an interesting cover of Raspberry Beret. I first thought of him however as a guy who struggled in obscurity for a while as his own originals got buried under much more successful covers by people like Linda Ronstadt. He was brilliant, and in every case I prefer his originals.

Bruce said...

Lot of good cover songs mentioned in the comments here - some of my favorites.

I'll just add Sweet Jane as among my all time favorite cover songs.

antiphone said...
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antiphone said...

Patti Smith - Gloria

ceowens said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Somewhere over the rainbow
By
Israel "IZ" Kamakawiwoʻole
8/23/17, 3:07 PM

DBQ, I really dislike that song but I purchased Israel's CD after hearing it once.

antiphone said...

I'll just add Sweet Jane as among my all time favorite cover songs.

I like that one too, and I read the whole album was recorded with one stereo mic in a church.

Saint Croix said...

4 versions of Louie Louie

The Kingsmen Louie Louie

Ike & Tina Turner Louie Louie

The Sonics Louie Louie

Iggy Pop Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

and 4 more

Toots and the Maytals Louie Louie

The Kinks Louie Louie

Otis Redding Louie Louie

Beau Brummels Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

and 4 more

Jan and Dean Louie Louie

Rockin' Robin Roberts Louie Louie

Dave Matthews Louie Louie

Paul Revere and the Raiders Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

and 4 more

Black Flag Louie Louie

The Ventures Louie Louie

Robert Plant Louie Louie

Beach Boys Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

and a final 4

Bruce Springsteen Louie Louie

The Clash Louie Louie

Motorhead Louie Louie

Blondie Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

somehow messed up Ike and Tina

here it is

Louie Louie

Saint Croix said...

and I messed up the Ventures too!

here it is

Louie Louie

Gahrie said...

Richard Cheese does some fun piano bar covers of popular music. I like to play them in my classroom during passing periods and freak the kids out.

Tank said...

Clapton covering Freddy King's "Hideaway." A great song made even greater. Clapton "learned" a lot from the three Kings.

Hendrix covering anything: Like a Rolling Stone, All along the Watchtower, Johnny B. Goode ...

Tank said...

An early iteration of Yes covering Simon and Garfunkel's "America."

Yes for crying out loud !

Before Wakeman and Howe joined Yes.

Bob Ellison said...

"Cover" is a vague term. In most music, it means something someone sang first, and was at least mildly successful, and was then recorded by someone else.

Lots-- and I mean most-- of pop songs were not composed by the songwriters who got credit for them.

Anyway, Nina Simone did the best version of "Cotton-Eyed Joe" ever. She didn't write it. She just played it, sang it, and closed it.

Saint Croix said...

I used to have a Reggae version of Grateful Dead songs.

Really interesting and different

Judy Mowatt's version of Row Jimmy is amazing.

Fabi said...

Nazareth covering Roy Orbison's Love Hurts.

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

Hundreds of great covers. I'm curious about the songs that haven't been covered. How has The 13th Floor Elevator's great "Scarlet and Gold" gone uncovered all these years?

Feste said...

Dad had a vinyl album, Lenny Bruce, “How to Relax Colored People at Parties,” and I didn’t understand it, at first ... "you must know colored people first to invite them to parties as 'Crow Jim'" ... “that Joe Lewis was a helluva fight,” and the whole album is prophetic ... I nominate, without knowing the exact name ...

Chubfuddler said...

Dave Edmunds' version of Elvis Costello's "Girls Talk" was always a favorite of mine:

Girls Talk

Ralph L said...

Il Divo's Wicked Game in Italian.

Gahrie said...

The Nun who won the Italian version of the voice did an incredible version of Madonna's Like A Virgin.

https://youtu.be/r0e8Uve7cJU

Anonymous said...

While it wouldn't kill me to shop through the Althouse Amazon Portal, every time I've tried to do a search through it, it's simply spun there and done nothing.

ace of spaces one works fine, so it's something in your setup

SeanF said...

Saint Croix, you missed Joan Jett.

antiphone said...

The Pretenders doing the Kinks Stop Your Sobbing

mikeski said...

I see most of my big-name favorites are already mentioned (Disturbed's "Sound of Silence", Cash's "Hurt").

So I'll offer Postmodern Jukebox. Especially with Morgan James singing. "Maps" is a great track. ("Stacy's Mom" is a hilarious one.)

PMJ does covers of 1980s-to-current pop tunes, in 1920s-1970s musical styles (big-band jazz, swing, Motown soul, etc.)

mikeski said...

And since we're doing Irish folk tunes as "covers", I'll add these two:

Kokia's "Black is the Color (of My True Love's Hair)"... with extra kudos for not swapping genders in the lyrics and singing it "lesbian".

Panic Room's "I Wonder What's Keeping My True Love Tonight".