August 23, 2017

"It was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck. My skin crawled."

"It was one of those moments where you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching, well, what would you do? Do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren’t repeatedly invading your space? Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly, ‘back up you creep, get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women but you can’t intimidate me, so back up.’"

So Hillary admits that she couldn't think of what to do under pressure. She needs a pause button. Is that like a reset button? There's no such thing. I mean you can vandalize the hotel hot tub to get a plastic button to call whatever you want — the Make Me President button — but it doesn't work.



More from the leaked excerpts to the memoir we're not all going to buy when it comes out in a few weeks:
"I chose option A. I kept my cool, aided by a lifetime of dealing with difficult men trying to throw me off."
The writer assumes the reader will not immediately think: Bill Clinton!
"I did, however, grip the microphone extra hard," she wrote. 
The writer assumes the reader will not think: phallic symbol.
“I wonder, though, whether I should have chosen option B. It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world.”
If you present an endlessly smiling controlled face to the world and choose to say nothing, people won't know what you think, won't trust you, and — since you're asking to be our President — won't be able to rely on you to speak for us. If you're that afraid to come up with an apt response to someone who's being intimidating, how do you have what it takes to be President? You think if you said something, it might be bad, so best to say nothing?

Look how easy it was for George W. Bush to push back Al Gore's overbearing physical encroachment during a debate:



Perfect. That nod. Everyone laughed. Nobody thought Bush seemed unpresidentially peevish. I still laugh every time I play that clip. And I play it a lot.

UPDATE: I have more to say about "back up you creep" here.

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MadisonMan said...

why did Hillary write this book?

Money.

mockturtle said...

Listening to Hillary read an audio book. Aren't there some world court rules prohibiting inhuman punishment and torture?

Worse than waterboarding, for sure!

exhelodrvr1 said...

That Hillary drone has an incredible loiter time.

Jim at said...

And it is precisely things like this that makes me realize no matter how good or bad Trump may be?

He's still better than this vile, corrupt bitch.

kevino said...

I'm with other commentators here:

I went to YouTube to look at the video. We're talking about the second debate, right? He is never closer than three feet from her, and that's when they come on stage. No handshake. Most of the video has separate cameras to cover them both.

She's lying -- again. Or, that is the best that her diseased-ridden mind can recall from the events. Her description about what happened doesn't fit the facts.

Ralph L said...

It's wrong to laugh at the physical infirmities of others but I'd be lying if I said I didn't occasionally Goolge "Hillary Clinton" "side of beef" and chuckle a bit at the results.

At JOM she is known as Curbdive.

Ralph L said...

Walter, that was a Bush-Gore debate when he sighed loudly, not Gore-Quayle.

Curious George said...

I'm guessing Trump was sucked into her personal space by the gravitational force that her fat ass generates.

buwaya said...

"When the BannonTrumpNationalistPopulist Party has majorities in both houses of Congress, and owns 34 statehouses, then I will care."

Don't they? Already?

The voters seem fickle and not tied to any particular member of a statehouse or Congress.
What was that poll of McConnells approval in Kentucky? 18% vs Trumps 60% ?
Is the party really the elected reps, or its funders, or its staff and hangers on, or its voters?

What is a political party?

dda6ga dda6ga said...

Was not Dingell- part of a Chuck Berry song?? Oops not that was ding a ling..
Gore an Chuck interested in Chuck B's package??

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youu+tube+my+ding+a&view=detail&mid=5B8E16C000758E7D3CD35B8E16C000758E7D3CD3&FORM=VIRE

Curious George said...

HoodlumDoodlum said...
It's wrong to laugh at the physical infirmities of others but I'd be lying if I said I didn't occasionally Goolge "Hillary Clinton" "side of beef" and chuckle a bit at the results.


You can leave out the "Hillary Clinton" part. "Side of beef" is enough.

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walter said...

Blogger Ralph L said...
Walter, that was a Bush-Gore debate when he sighed loudly, not Gore-Quayle.
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He did that on both occasions...kinda worse really with Quayle.

deepelemblues said...

the only creep i saw in that debate was the person who had a weird Joker smile plastered on her face the entire time

i kept expecting her to cackle and say "I'VE GOT YOU NOW, CAPED CRUSADER!"

William Chadwick said...

"walter's" post gives me the shivers. Queen Cacklepants' own voice reading her memoirs? They should use the spoken word version of the book to torture terrorists.

John Constantius said...

I recall some Althouse posts about some actors who re-enacted the debates, down to mannerisms and facial expressions, but they switched the genders of the two candidates. A female actor was given Trump's words and behaviors, and a male actor was given Hillary's words and behaviors.

The intent was to prove that aggressive, confident men (Trump) are viewed as capable, while aggressive, confident women (Hillary) are viewed as bitchy. In other words, that Hillary was unfairly judged in the debates because of her gender, not her actual performance.

As I recall, the audiences ended up liking the female version of Trump and wanted to vote for her. They hated the male version of Hillary and wanted to punch him in the face.

There's a lesson in there, but I'm too deplorable to figure it out.

Paul said...

I think Hillary needs a shrink. She is suffering from projection. She projects Bill Clinton's creepy image over any man she meets, especially powerful ones.

She is sick.

Khesanh 0802 said...

@Michael K I read the article before I finished you comments. I was going to say "F... him, then". You beat me to it. Trump certainly put them on notice- no cooperation,no money. Let them welcome the Chinese if they wish.

No Mike, it's a bunch of Ivy Leaguers screwing up our foreign policy - as they have been for generations. We need some people from Iowa State, Missouri, maybe even Michigan to go in and straighten it out!

'TreHammer said...

...can't wait for the reviews...

tcrosse said...

Is it significant that none of this blog's resident Lefties have leaped to Hillary's defense ?
That does not bode well for her 2020 run.

mockturtle said...

The only part of Hillary that will run in 2020 is her nose.

Ray said...

Khan's (opposition leader in Pakistan) opinion does not matter. The ones that do are the ISI (Pakistan CIA equivalent) and Military. Civilian leadership is still VERY weak in Pakistan.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Linking Hillary's own reminders that she was not up to the job to the old Reset button story is pretty great.
Of course, the attempt to come up with the Russian word for "reset" was a failure--some staff person probably had to get fired.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/06/clinton-reset-button-gift-to-russian-fm-gets-lost-in-translation/
As my son says, pure Veep.

Achilles said...

Ray said...

More interesting question is what comes next for the Republican and Democratic Party? I believe both parties would rather forget about Trump.

No, they would rather forget about Trump's voters.

Achilles said...

Hillary's Liver is going to try to crawl out of whatever hole it can find in that lumpy soulless husk and run away screaming before 2020.

Curious George said...

"Paul said...
I think Hillary needs a shrink."

Maybe. She definitely needs to shrink.

Chris Lopes said...

The book is a deal is a campaign contribution. The publisher already knows that the book will lose money, and doesn't care. What matters is that money got to the right person and everything looks legit.

Michael K said...

" it's a bunch of Ivy Leaguers screwing up our foreign policy - as they have been for generations. We need some people from Iowa State, Missouri, maybe even Michigan to go in and straighten it out!"

I have decided to reread Bruce Catton's "Grant Moves South" as a sort of mind cleanser.

Did you read the piece by the lady about the Cultural Revolution II?

She thinks it's coming. I do too.

TWW said...

The first thing that struck me odd was why anyone would want to breathe down the neck of Hilary Clinton?

SukieTawdry said...

It's customary to leak juicy tidbits from about-to-be published books to gin up interest. If this is the best they've got, good luck.

gspencer said...

Creepy?

How about a picture of her and the really creepy Yassar,

http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2016/08/arafat.jpg

And this clown thought she'd be the equal of thugs the world over?

Nancy Reyes said...

I didn't see the clip, because I live overseas. However, was it intimidation because she was a woman or was it just hogging the camera? As a TV star he's know how to move to get the camera on him.

As for "getting into her space", that is a cultural judgement. I almost slugged a South American relative until I realized the "space" for ordinary discussion in his culture was the distance that Americans consider "intimate" (i.e. 18 inches).....
and in California I had to grind my teeth because everyone and his brother hugged me. My mother would describe this as "getting in a quick feel" but for friendly Californians it was just being friendly.

Michael K said...

It was "intimidation" because Shut Up !

SukieTawdry said...

Bay Area Guy said...Ahh, the joy of waking up in an America where Hillary Clinton is still not president.

It doesn't get old.


Nope, it never gets old. It never will.

YoungHegelian said...

Coming in late to a long thread, I'd like to echo what Wildswan mentioned in his/her 9:51 AM posting of an excerpt from Shattered. The book in no way agrees with HRC's description of what happened at the HRC/Trump debate.

The HRC campaign expected Trump to try "physical intimidation", & so they found the most physically & psychologically intimidating of the Klinton Krew, Philippe Reines, as the stand-in for Trump in practice rounds. Reines even practiced forms of intimidation in debate training that he came up with himself, & that Trump had never used. In other words, Reines was a bigger dick than Trump in training.

Any way you cut it, this doesn't look good for Hillary. If you're training to lift 200 lbs in competition, you train with 225. That's what Team Hillary did, but Hillary flubbed the lift. She's either unteachable (which I strongly suspect, considering her ham-handed attitude towards computer technology), teachable but just really bad at retail political theater, or she's now intent upon seeing her past through a revisionist lens that borders on the delusional.

urbane legend said...

exhelodrvr1 said...
That Hillary drone has an incredible loiter time.

Excellent! :-)

Michael K said...

"seeing her past through a revisionist lens that borders on the delusional."

I vote for "delusional."

The second Bundy trial ended today with all acquittals.

Imagine if Hillary was running things.

How many Murrah federal buildings would eventually b blown up by angry people ?

That tragedy was a direct result of the David Koresh compound catastrophe.

Koresh went into town for his mail but the ATF staged the raid because budget hearings were going on.

Hundreds died as a result.


tcrosse said...

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was creeped out by Hillary. I would be.

Bruce Koole said...

The right preposition, please. Always choose the right preposition/adverb, please: Say "throw me away" not "throw me off". "Off" is way too much emphasis on honeymoon or conception language and with Billy Boy's philandering, wow, oh wow. Of course, this poor language choice could be by design. Else, try "slap me down". Then Both Billy and Donald are women abusers.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

@Buwaya ... Is the publisher fronting his own money? How does he make it back on such book deals?

SukieTawdry said...

...not at all the "real" Al Gore...

There is no "real" Al Gore.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

You guys really do love yourselves that 2000 debate clip - in which one candidate puts to task the other his inability to understand basic legislation - which is a large part of what the government does. Not pathetically dodging it, like Bush did.

Bush's utterly unremarkable gesture was remarkable to me for the reason that I wonder if that was also his reaction to the memo about bin Laden's determination to strike in the homeland. Probably so. I bet you love him for that, also.

If only swagger were an acceptable substitute for competence in all venues in life. Then we'd all be Republicans, I guess.

buwaya said...

"... Is the publisher fronting his own money? How does he make it back on such book deals?"

Good question.

A good place to start -
http://annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReports/PDF/NYSE_CBS_2016.pdf
http://www.annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReports/PDF/NYSE_VIAB_2016.pdf
As always, the disclosures on the annual reports are just a start to the digging. But there are plenty of clues here.

Part of the answer is that Simon&Schuster is a very small part of CBS Corp. According to their annual report, 6% of revenues, 4% of income. What the publisher does is more likely to affect the operating environment of their mass media business than to contribute to profits. Its in an excellent position to serve as a channel for indirect political contributions.

CBS has Cable TV, TV Stations, Copyright/Intellectual property matters, etc. All highly susceptible to regulatory and legislative effects, as well as, in many cases such as copyright enforcement abroad, on national policy.

Part of the answer is the interrelated ownership of major media companies. NAI, National Amusements, Sumner Redstones' holding company, also owns most of Viacom, which has its own issues.

And both companies have increasing debts and declining equity, being largely in hock to - well, who exactly?

A good opening for the intrepid reporter.

Big Mike said...

Then we'd all be Republicans.

It you. W don't want you. The GOP had a big tent, but there are limits.

Mark said...

All of this is based on a lie. I watched the debate live. Hillary left her stool and walked across the stage, placing herself between Trump and a camera in a practiced move. The campaign waited until the following Monday to release the picture - long enough for people to forget that Trump never left his stool.

buwaya said...

Note also that there are all sorts of potential regulatory issues possible in potential future maneuvers of Sumner Redstone's holdings - in truth, neither of these companies seem like they will be independent much longer -

Some of the truly big fish are very likely to snap them up. The fact that the 80% owner of both decided not to merge them indicates that he wants to retain flexibility in selling them off separately.

http://www.investopedia.com/news/why-verizon-may-need-buy-cbs-and-viacom/

Verizon is swimming in debt as it is, but there are lots of other, cash-rich potential buyers. Buying some political assets/regulatory goodwill can help.

Lindsey said...

“I wonder, though, whether I should have chosen option B. It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world.”

The tv show Riverdale uses this EXACT behavior as one of the signs the character who does it is mentally unstable and repressed.

Unknown said...

God continues to look over the United States of America. I expect trumps skin was doing more than crawling.

walter said...

With Clinton/Gore's record in so relentlessly dropping the hammer on him, I'm sure Bin Laden was hoping Gore would win. I agree. Gore's swagger there really was an empty gesture..worthy of the quick dismissal it received. It's not so much the nod..but how quickly he looks away and resumes.

Gretchen said...

If you can't handle someone awkwardly invading your space at a debate, you are not fit to be president. That's all.

I could watch Gore say "Dingle Norwood " a hundred times, comedy gold.

Todd Roberson said...

Yes - it's quite important to understand "basic legislation" such as the Dingle Norwood Act. Just today, I was discussing with a colleague the implications of the Dingle Norwood Act on a capital investment we were considering. Plus, the Dingle Norwood Act came came to mind as I was driving over the same pothole strewn roads and avoiding the same fishing hole sized chuck hole I've been avoiding on a major thoroughfare for a decade now. Also, I thought, thank god for the smart political minds that could analyze the implications of the Dingle Norwood Act and it's impact on the power power lines behind my house that seem to get knocked down every time we have a storm here and go a day without power. Finally - as I go to bed - I am thankful for the "basic legislation" of the Dingke Norwood Act in keeping my family safe from the meth addled, unemployed and off-shored hopeless people that seem to be a growing element in nearly every major American city not to mention the bleak rural landscape of much of the Rust Belt.

All of which makes it harder to understand Bush's reaction to the very important question about the critical Dingke Norwood Act: "what the fuck are you talking about "global warming boy"?

Todd Roberson said...

... Then again ...

Maybe my judgement is clouded by the bad case of the Dingle Norwoods I contracted after visiting Tanzania as a teenager ... God that burned!

cr pol said...

That exchange with Bush and Gore didn't sway me either way because Gore laughed too. And while it may not have looked it, it was a real Gore laugh. So both got points from me for that.

rhhardin said...

"It was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck. My skin crawled."

Hillary's orgasm.

tim in vermont said...

Bush's utterly unremarkable gesture was remarkable to me for the reason that I wonder if that was also his reaction to the memo about bin Laden's determination to strike in the homeland. Probably so. I bet you love him for that, also. . - TTR

I guess TTR thinks Bush should have put every A-Rab in the U S of A under surveillance or in detention in response to a single sentence in a report that lacked any further detail whatsoever, in August of 2001! If he had, and had prevented 9-11, TTR would have been excoriating him for his suppression of rights and racist oppression of Muslims.

Doug said...

" ...literally breathing down my neck ..." - this from the Smartest Woman in the Country, who by the way, also doesn't know the difference between 'Calvary' and 'cavalry'. Hooray! Another dawn breaks without Shrillary! in the White House!

Known Unknown said...

"So both got points from me for that"

Which Gore then conceded by repeating "Dingle-Norwood," which no one in the audience gives a shit about.

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