June 30, 2017

When is a facelift not a facelift?

Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough respond to Donald Trump's infamous "bleeding badly from a face-lift" tweet:
"Putting aside Mr. Trump's never-ending obsession with women's blood, Mika and her face were perfectly intact, as pictures from that night reveal," they said in the column. "And though it is no one's business, the president's petulant personal attack against yet another woman's looks compels us to report that Mika has never had a face-lift. If she had, it would be evident to anyone watching 'Morning Joe' on their high-definition TV. She did have a little skin under her chin tweaked, but this was hardly a state secret. Her mother suggested she do so, and all those around her were aware of this mundane fact."
I think the "obsession with women's blood" is fascinating and deserves a lot of attention. It's not just Trump's obsession, but everyone who hopped onto the task of making that tweet the most important event in the world. Blood is vivid and it means so much to us. If it bleeds, it leads is the classic saying about journalism. Look! Blood!



It's very primal. And Trump has an instinct to reach out and grab us in our deep, secret, sensitive place. And we let him! Come on, everybody. Let's talk about how Mika is bleeding. It's like a magnet.

But I want to talk about the fussy distinction Mika and Joe made between a facelift and "a little skin under her chin tweaked." If you've just gotten a little skin under your chin tweaked, have you not gotten a facelift? Your chin is part of your face, but I guess once you go around to the underside of the chin, you're off the face and onward toward the neck, then technically it's not a "facelift."

But I went to the website of the American Association of Plastic Surgeons, to the page "Facelift" and it lists 3 kinds of incisions, "Traditional Facelift," "Limited Incision," and "Neck Lift." So it looks to me as though the expert terminology would include "a little skin under her chin tweaked" in the category "facelift."

And by the way, why are Mika and Joe acting as if it's so shameful for a woman to get a facelift? Speaking of making a "personal attack" on a "woman's looks," they seem to be implying that it's insulting say that a woman has had a facelift. Does Mika mean to lord her superiority over all the other celebrities who have had more surgery? Trump's tweet stressed the bleeding. The facelift played a secondary role as the source of the bad bleeding. He didn't say: Ugh, Mika had a facelift. He said she was imposing herself on me at a New Year's Eve party when she was bleeding badly from facelift incisions.

Mika's answer was that the incisions — which are back around the temples and ears (as I understand it from the plastic surgeons' website) — were only for the purpose of lifting the skin below the face. By presenting that as a defense to Trump's tweet, she is (unwittingly?) introducing the view that a facelift is a stain on a woman's reputation. Isn't that the retrograde, sexist idea?

I don't think Trump is anti-facelift. I assume women in his life have had facelifts and he's quite familiar with the process. That's probably why he recognized the source of the blood.

If there was blood.

Now, I'm speculating that Mika deliberately imposed on him when she was visibly bleeding to see if she could get the a fame boost — a famelift — like the one that had made Megyn Kelly such a big deal so recently. That was back on New Year's Eve, though, and now, I'm speculating that Trump deliberately delayed his reaction until Megyn Kelly's narrative had arced and cratered.

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LYNNDH said...

What is the meaning of "is"? They got caught in a lie now, so FAKE NEWS! Plus, I guess Trump and all Presidents are suppose to just take the crap that is thrown at them? I don't think so. As we are fond of quoting Lincoln - "HE FIGHTS!"

David Begley said...

Important insight by Althouse. Trump appeals to our reptilian brains. This is Trump as the WWE guy.

Michael K said...

"the fussy distinction Mika and Joe made between a facelift and "a little skin under her chin tweaked."

Target has been zeroed in and destroyed.

Michael K said...

"As we are fond of quoting Lincoln - "HE FIGHTS!"

Well done. Exact analogy.

Fen said...

Mika: "face perfectly intact"

Another set of weasel words. Trump did not claim her face was not intact. He claimed her face was bleeding.

Mika and Joe are being dishonest. And are still bleeding.

Wilbur said...

President Trump tweets "Look, a squirrel!"
Media scurries after it and barks like a dog treeing a coon.

Inga said...

Mika imposed herself on Trump in hopes that Trump would bash her later in a public way so that she could get some fame?

Jesus, that is some twisted thinking.

Rene Saunce said...

"She did have a little skin under her chin tweaked,"


Also known as - "a facelift."

Ralph L said...

My step-monster claimed the black eyes she got from an eyelift were caused by spider bites on an ER x-ray table. Or at least that's the lie du jour I remember.

Rene Saunce said...

Mika's mommy and daddy are always involved.

sparrow said...

I think Trump operates mostly by instinct. For the most part, those instincts are good, as his success has proven. I may not agree with every fight he picks but I'll take a crude patriot over Hilary any day.

LilyBart said...

As I said on the earlier thread: so, she DID have work on her face. I guess Trump noticed.

Has anyone else noticed this: Joe wears a suit & tie on his show while Mika always looks like she dressed to run Saturday errands. I confess I don't watch the show all the time, but this has been my impression for some time now.

Fen said...

A dead intern was found on Joe's office floor. Maybe not intern, she was an "aide" to Joe for 2 years. I'd like to hear more about that.

There is also scuttlebut from disgruntled women at MSNBC that Mika worked her way up to that anchor chair the old-fashioned way.

Rene Saunce said...

Excellent points, Ann.

rhhardin said...

The point of Trump's tweets that the media jump on 24/7 is to show them to every serious person as non-serious.

That decouples news as an entertainment choice from public debate.

Soap opera women will continue to watch the news, which only they watch, but at least soap opera women won't any longer edit public debate.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

We're being played.

Hagar said...

So, is Trump being "investigated" or not?
In lawyerspeak, no; but in common speech, oh yeah.

Fen said...

I mean, Mika and Joe's lies are of the sort you get from people who have been getting away with lies for so long that exhibit a complacent lazy dishonesty.

Makes me wonder what else they have been lying about.

wendybar said...

Joe and Mika are probably still getting daily text messages from Valerie Jarrett, telling them what the talking points of the day are. Their ratings are so low, that this little tizzy is going to help them gin the ratings up, until they crash and burn....

Unknown said...

Trump tweet today: "Watched low rated @Morning_Joe for first time in long time. FAKE NEWS. He called me to stop a National Enquirer article. I said no! Bad show"

Joe Scarborough reply 1: "Yet another lie. I have texts from your top aides and phone records. Also, those records show I haven't spoken with you in many months."

Joe Scarborough reply 2: "Why do you keep lying about things that are so easily disproven? What is wrong with you?"

Trumpski's - that is all you need to know about your Dear Leader. Mind you, it does require understanding what the above says. Never mind. Go back to Fox News.

Nonapod said...

Not that I care much about any of this, but are their ratings actually low?

Humperdink said...

I suspect that DJT will double down and reiterate that Mika did indeed have a facelift, as reported by Joe and Mika this morning.

Bob Boyd said...

@ Unknown

Trump's tweet doesn't say when Joe called, only that he did. And then Joe admits he did.

Ralph L said...

Why won't that fucking Vanity Fair webpage hold still?

Michael said...

Any surgical "tweaking" on the face is a face lift. Or you can simply change the nomenclature and call it a medical enhancement and voila! no facelift.

Once written, twice... said...

How is everyone enjoying the Crazy Time that is the Trump presidency? Ann is clearly yucking it up. Does anyone miss the dignified Obama years? I suspect there are some other countries that are enjoying our slide into crazy town.

Fen said...

Inga: "That is some twisted thinking, Althouse"

You're nursing a grudge against Althouse because she sees through your shit. There's a funny meme, pic of a cat stalking a Bald Eagle on a deck railing, captioned "this is going to end badly and you'll have no one to blame but yourself"

Althouse makes a good point. A woman of higb society is about to impose on a billionaire celebrity for a favor, and she doesn't check her makeup and catch that she's still bleeding from surgery? Doesn't follow.

Curious George said...

"Inga said...
Mika imposed herself on Trump in hopes that Trump would bash her later in a public way so that she could get some fame?

Jesus, that is some twisted thinking."

Yep, Mika is one twisted bitch.

Rene Saunce said...

OT:

Dana Loesch is AWESOME!

Gavin Newsom crapped his pants.

Earnest Prole said...

Trump: There Will Be Blood

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Blood is vivid and it means so much to us. ...It's very primal.

Dry mouth, taste of blood,
The iron on the tongue brings up something ancient, something before the flood...

Frank Turner- Demons

Limited blogger said...

The dignified Obama years!

Where nothing got done, and the slide into oblivion was on a rapid pace.

Fen said...

"Anyone miss Obama years"

Nope. I'm glad that arrogant narcissistic Marxist scum is gone. He was an incomptent diversity hire who deliberately acted to make America weak. Thank God Trump is cleaning up the mess he inherited from Obama.

But if you really miss him, the NYTs just did a hard-hitting expose on Obama's "bluejean game". LOL.

rehajm said...

"HE FIGHTS!"

Because of the brash nature of the way he disarms the left he gets little credit for it. Every day is another example of Scott Adams Cognitive Dissonance from the left. I'm not sure they'll ever figure it out.

tcrosse said...

Does anyone miss the dignified Obama years?

Not the Libyans or the Syrians.

Lem said...

There will be blood. What a wonderful idea for a movie title... bring back Daniel Day Lewis out of retirement.

Khesanh 0802 said...

Once again Trump makes us uncomfortable while telling the truth about someone who has spent the last six months shitting all over him. A chinlift is, indeed, a facelift - and clearly the two idiots were more than happy to associate with Trump on New Year's Eve. Take advantage of his hospitality then dump all over the guy. What would Emily Post have had to say about that?

The question that came to my mind last night was: If you won't treat the the office of the President with respect why should the person holding that office treat you with respect? Clearly the Morniing assholes do not treat the Office of the President with any respect. Trump reciprocates.

Fen said...

But thanks for reminding us all that for 8 years, the focus of the Democrat Media was "is Obama super cool or is he super duper cool?"

What a bunch of hacks.

Yancey Ward said...

After I read the original Trump tweet, I literally said to myself that Scarborough and Brezezinski would quibble about the definition of whatever procedure she had done at that time, and was proven right within a day. Wow.

Khesanh 0802 said...

@Rene Saunce Another piece of proof that the Progs aren't helping themselves with their "Resistance".

roesch/voltaire said...

I see ads for chin lifts on TV almost everyday and they never call it a face lift, but no matter there is blood somewhere and now we learn there are tapes from the WH urging Mika and Joe to drop a story or else. We shall see who gets a bloody nose from this exchange.

Michael K said...

" I may not agree with every fight he picks but I'll take a crude patriot over Hilary any day."

Bingo !

Lem said...

Maybe this is also a way of competing with Putin as the worlds bad-guy/good-guy to Putins bad-guy/bad-guy.

Unknown said...

"Mika imposed herself on Trump in hopes that Trump would bash her later in a public way so that she could get some fame?"

FFS

1. Mika is on the top rated cable news show 5 mornings a week. She is already famous.

2. Call it a chinlift. So f'ing what. Have you see the before and after photos of Melania Trump's multiple facelifts? - chalk and cheese.

Inga said...

Now blackmail? How Presidential.

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/06/30/joe-scarborough-updated-nbc-executives-real-time-national-enquirer-threat/

The feud between Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough, and Mika Brzenzski with President Donald Trump heated up on Friday morning when Scarborough related a possible blackmail story involving The National Enquirer.

According to Scarborough, White House staff called him and said the National Enquirer had a story about Joe and Mika they were going to run and that President Trump would have them spike it if Joe called the President and apologized for their coverage of the President.

I reached out to Scarborough and asked him about it and here is what he told me:

“NBC execs knew in real time about the calls and who made them to me. That’s why Mark Kornblau wrote about contemporaneous texts. I showed him and executives as they were coming in to keep them advised.”

Fen said...

"He fights"

And THAT is why he has my support. Even when some of his moves exasperate me.

For years upon years, the Right has underplayed their hand, even to the point of throwing good people under the bus.

Trump overplays his hand. And usually wins. Do I expect that will come back and bite him in the ass a few times? Sure. But I prefer that to the GOP habit of ante-fold, ante-raise-fold, ante-fold, ante-fold, ante-raise-fold.

gadfly said...

Isn't the point to be made here obvious to everyone? Joe and Mika said she had no facial surgery at the time of the Mar-a-Lago meeting. That is either true or it is false. Scarboro writes that pictures taken at that event prove she had no surgery.

Defining what is or what isn't a face lift is not relevant. So what is the truth? I am betting against Trump.

Michael K said...

"We shall see who gets a bloody nose from this exchange."

R/V says, "Hold my beer and watch this !"

JPS said...

Lem, 9:50:

As Jamie McDonald ("the crossest man in Scotland") put it in a deleted scene from In The Loop:

"You couldn't have a better title for a film. Apart from maybe 'There Will Be Tits.' You could, you could have a cinema playing, 'There Will Be Blood' and 'There Will Be Tits' - you don't need any other films! That's the end of cinema, right there!"

Malcolm Tucker: "Is this f^&*in' going anywhere?"

Jamie, taken aback: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, no - I went to see 'There Will Be Blood' - and there wasn't any f^&*ing blood!

http://tinyurl.com/ycp25y7b

(Language warning - also cruel personal abuse, if you watch the rest)

Inga said...

Mika and Joe said on their show this AM:

“We got a call that ‘hey the National Enquirer is going to run a negative story about you guys.’ And they said ‘if you call the president up and you apologize for your coverage then he would pick up the phone and basically spike this story’ . . .I had three people at the very top of the administration calling me and the response was like ‘are you kidding me, I don’t know what they have, run a story, I’m not going to do it.’ The calls kept coming and they were like ‘you need to call, please call.’”
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RLB_IV said...

Ah yes, blood as an idiom.

Michael K said...

"But I prefer that to the GOP habit of ante-fold, ante-raise-fold, ante-fold, ante-fold, ante-raise-fold."

I hate to think what the Democrats would be doing to my favorite, Governor Walker.

He could beat them in Wisconsin but I doubt he would be able to do it on a national stage.

Chuck said...

The worst thing that I can say about Joe and Mika is what Bill Kristol said to both their faces on live television; Kristol blamed the two of them for having been so ready to devote lots of airtime to him when the Trump candidacy was just kicking off. He said that they helped to make the Trump presidency a reality (before turning against him, of course).

Joe and Mika didn't like it.

sunsong said...

This is sad to witness. Attacking Mika won't help Trump. This is way beyond that. This is about basic decency and Trump doesn't have it. Defending Trump is the same as defending creepiness and lying and bigotry.

And besides that, the idea that the President of the United States will not be criticized all day every day for the entirety of his Presidency. Trump is too immature to grasp that...

gadfly said...

@Fen said...
"He fights" And THAT is why he has my support.

So you like bullies who pick on weaker and sometimes docile victims?

Donald Trump, the TV actor, needs to get into his role as the influential American president.

Fen said...

BREAKING: Inga finally abandons fake Russia story. Goes all in on fake Blackmail story. Film at 11.

dreams said...

I like Trump, we need a president who is willing to fight and has obviously learned how to win a fight.

Inga said...

"The worst thing that I can say about Joe and Mika is what Bill Kristol said to both their faces on live television; Kristol blamed the two of them for having been so ready to devote lots of airtime to him when the Trump candidacy was just kicking off. He said that they helped to make the Trump presidency a reality (before turning against him, of course).

Joe and Mika didn't like it."

Absolutely true. I agree.

Chuck said...

I wonder how much bleeding there was in Trump's scalp reduction surgery?

exiledonmainstreet said...

Obama appeared in a YouTube video with a woman who eats cereal out of her bathtub.

Now that's dignified!

To say nothing of the Very Dignified Administration of Mr. Boxers or Briefs.

grackle said...

“NBC execs knew in real time about the calls and who made them to me. That’s why Mark Kornblau wrote about contemporaneous texts. I showed him and executives as they were coming in to keep them advised.”

Are we supposed to believe this crap? Want to know the last time I believed an NBC exec?

exiledonmainstreet said...

Chuck said...
I wonder how much bleeding there was in Trump's scalp reduction surgery?"

Trump takes scalps. He got 16 GOP ones during the primaries.

Lem said...

"When politeness and orderliness are met with contempt and betrayal, do not be surprised if the response is something less polite, and less orderly."

At least Trump never called us mean spirited racists sexists cisnormatives homophobes.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Not to mention Hillary's scalp, as well as Megan Kelly's.

I take it all of these scalps are on display at Mar-A-Lago. And they're bleeding.

Rene Saunce said...

We got Trump because the hack press thought Trump would be the best person for Hillary to beat.

Trump is a NY liberal.

Inga said...

"Inga finally abandons fake Russia story. Goes all in on fake Blackmail story."

Any number of Trump's corrupt and stupid ways could be his undoing. Keep tweeting Trump, keep threatening those who you see as adversaries.

Fen said...

Gadly: "so you like bullies who pick on - "

Nope. I like leaders who punch back at media bullies.

I also enjoy hearing the bully's fan club whine about it. Do continue.

Rene Saunce said...

Inga, Hillary is corrupt and sets the standard for corruption.

Trump might be stupid, to you, but please name how is he corrupt. Hack press innuendo and wish-facts do not count as corruption.

Chuck said...

Lem said...
...
At least Trump never called us mean spirited racists sexists cisnormatives homophobes.

He called you chumps. He said that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and you'd still support him. It's one of the truest and most significant things Trump has ever said.

Inga said...

Mueller can always add blackmail to his investigation.

Fen said...

"This is about basic decency"

We decline to be lectured on decency by Sore Losers who refuse to accept the results of the election and a Democrat Media who refuse to normalize the elected President of the United States.

Shorter: take your fake appeal to decency and shove it up your ass. You spit on the Tea Party. You spit in Mitt Romney's face. You spit on us. So now you get Trump.

For 8 years, bitch.

Inga said...

"You spit on the Tea Party. You spit in Mitt Romney's face. You spit on us."


We spit on Fen.

Michael K said...

"So you like bullies who pick on weaker and sometimes docile victims?"

The TV and newspapers are docile and weak ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You need to get out of your mom's basement more.

Michael K said...

"We spit on Fen."

You got a mouse in your pocket, again ?

eric said...

If you believe Joe Scarborough and MSNBC have texts and tapes showing the White House Black mailing them and they kept it hidden all this time to protect Trump, until now, you might be a Democrat.

Prepare to be disappointed.

eric said...

Shorter: take your fake appeal to decency and shove it up your ass. You spit on the Tea Party. You spit in Mitt Romney's face. You spit on us. So now you get Trump

Let's not forget the appeal to decency when they called my wife and children "Tea baggers" and laughed about it for years on all of the news channels.

exiledonmainstreet said...

At least Trump never called us mean spirited racists sexists cisnormatives homophobes.

6/30/17, 10:12 AM

That's it. Trump attacks pols and media people who are more than capable of fighting back.

Democrats attack Trump voters. Or, during the Obama years, ordinary people who mocked or challenged The Annointed One in any way. Look at what the media did to Joe the Plumber and that rodeo clown.

The Dems and their media flunkies went after powerless people. Trump attacks famous people who are already distrusted and disliked.

What strategy has been more effective?

Inga said...

"If you believe Joe Scarborough and MSNBC have texts and tapes showing the White House Black mailing them and they kept it hidden all this time to protect Trump, until now, you might be a Democrat."

eric," all this time?"

It happened this morning.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Now that the ridiculous Russian story has fallen apart, Inga has to latch onto another pack of lies to keep herself going.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

God this is funny. Our host is on a roll. As much as I enjoy: Groucho interrupting the speeches by dignitaries and TV anchors in order to tell them they're ugly, and they don't know how to make anybody laugh on purpose; Chico walking on the piano while someone is trying to play, then playing himself while he sings a nice sentimental song; and Harpo pulling everyone's clothes off and honking his horn; I can't help thinking Trump isn't necessarily helping himself. The headline for the last day or two might have been: Wash Post admits fake news: Trump-Russia link was affirmed by four intelligence agencies, not 17.
By the way, it's just possible that Groucho would grab attractive women somewhere; I think at some point, who knows exactly what point, he would check to see if they were "letting" him, but in any case he was confident they would let him because he was a star (not a guy carrying a guitar case, or, God forbid, a clarinet case).

eric said...

Blogger Inga said...
"If you believe Joe Scarborough and MSNBC have texts and tapes showing the White House Black mailing them and they kept it hidden all this time to protect Trump, until now, you might be a Democrat."

eric," all this time?"

It happened this morning.

6/30/17, 10:31 AM


Isn't the blackmail supposed to be that they were going to tell the inquire about their relationship?

No one knew Joe and Mika we're together until this morning?

FullMoon said...

"Putting aside Mr. Trump's never-ending obsession with women's blood,


Right. Show us five legitimate examples

Inga said...

"Now that the ridiculous Russian story has fallen apart....".

Let's see, collusion, obstruction, witness tampering, now blackmail. Such possibilities!

Curious George said...

"Chuck said...
The worst thing that I can say about Joe and Mika is what Bill Kristol said to both their faces on live television; Kristol blamed the two of them for having been so ready to devote lots of airtime to him when the Trump candidacy was just kicking off. He said that they helped to make the Trump presidency a reality (before turning against him, of course).

Joe and Mika didn't like it."

Inga said...
"Absolutely true. I agree."

So you two dullards really think that a low rated morning show on fucking ultra-lib MSNBC had a lot to do with Trump becoming president? How?

FullMoon said...

First time viewer of MJ this morning. Host immediately claims Trump got several facts wrong in his tweet.

There were three facts claimed; facelift, bleeding, denial of access.

Then, all the guests went on to call Trump names and insult him, while complaining about his tweet. Kinda proved Trumps point.

sunsong said...

Shorter: take your fake appeal to decency and shove it up your ass. You spit on the Tea Party. You spit in Mitt Romney's face. You spit on us. So now you get Trump.

I voted for Mitt. I am a non-Mormon Utahn (though I was raised Mormon ~ I left at age 15. It is not for me :-)

You don't even know me yet you ascribe actions and ideas and more to me without having any evidence of such. That reflects on you, not me.

This is about basic human decency. This is soul level stuff. What is humane and what is inhumane? This is only going to grow. This is about who we think we are and most people are good. Even an intensely polarized nation can't control or contain that.

Fen said...

Inga: "we spit on Fen... Ann! Ann! I can't believe you allow these vile vicious attacks! Mommy!"

Heh. Hit & Cry. Ace nailed it.

Inga: poke
Fen: ....
Inga: jab
Fen: ....
Inga: poke
Fen: SMACK!
Inga: Mommy! Fen hit me!

Meade: aw hell not this shit again.

Jupiter said...

Notto change the subject, but I'm interested in this;

"... a facelift is a stain on a woman's reputation. Isn't that the retrograde, sexist idea?"

It seems to me that having surgery to improve your appearance indicates that you are way too concerned with your appearance. I suppose that attitude is "retrograde". Meaning, increasingly uncommon. But "sexist"? Only if any suggestion that a woman has a fault is sexist. Kind of like how any suggestion that Obama is not perfect is racist. And not wanting to be machine-gunned in a night club is Islamophobic.

Inga said...

"No one knew Joe and Mika we're together until this morning?"

Has nothing to do with them being engaged. We all knew it weeks ago. Trump said he would get the Enquirer to remove a hit piece on them if they would apologize to Trump. This happened this AM. Who knows what the hit piece was about, it certainly wouldn't be a hit piece to say they were a couple and had been a couple for quite sometime, that was common knowledge.

eric said...

Blogger Inga said...
"No one knew Joe and Mika we're together until this morning?"

Has nothing to do with them being engaged. We all knew it weeks ago. Trump said he would get the Enquirer to remove a hit piece on them if they would apologize to Trump. This happened this AM. Who knows what the hit piece was about, it certainly wouldn't be a hit piece to say they were a couple and had been a couple for quite sometime, that was common knowledge.


6/30/17, 10:45 AM


How do you comment on stuff you know so little about?

Yes, this all came out this morning. However, the supposed "blackmail" happened 2 months ago.

Hence my comment about them sitting on the story.

Jupiter said...

"He called you chumps. He said that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and you'd still support him. It's one of the truest and most significant things Trump has ever said."

I still remember back when Chuck was claiming to be a "lifelong Republican", and his problem with Trump was that Trump was the only Republican candidate who could not beat Hillary.

Now it appears that Chuck's problem with Trump is that he beat Hillary, and inspires such loyalty that he is likely to beat the next corrupt sack of shit the Democrats run against him. Kind of sounds like Chuck has gone back to being a lifelong Democrat.

Unknown said...

Ivanka Trump: "There is a level of viciousness that I was not expecting (in DC)."

Melania Trump: "Our culture has gotten too mean."

Donald Trump: ...to Mar-a-Lago 3 nights in a row around New Year's Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!

No shit, Jose!

exiledonmainstreet said...


"Let's see, collusion, obstruction, witness tampering, now blackmail. Such possibilities!"

Such a rich fantasy life you have, Inga.

Walker was going to get indicted too! Just wait!!!

Fen said...

"This is going to grow"

Good. It needs to grow. Because until it entangles the Left and they feel it's thorns, they will stop us from ripping it up by the roots.

We tried decency and manners and turning the other cheek for decades. Did the Left change their behavior? No, they doubled down on vile viciousness instead. Because tbey interpreted our appeals to civility and decency as an admission of weakness. In a sense, we enabled and rewarded them. And you want to unilaterally disarm and go back to that?

Sorry, but you had your shot. For decades. Your way did not work. If you can't see that by now then what good are you?

Unknown said...

@inga

You go girl! Keep grabbing the Trumpski's by their graying short and curlies and yank hard.

They'll never understand but that is some of the fun.

Stupid is as stupid does. Like you know, voting and rooting for Trump.

Curious George said...

"Inga said...
Mika and Joe said on their show this AM:

“We got a call that ‘hey the National Enquirer is going to run a negative story about you guys.’ And they said ‘if you call the president up and you apologize for your coverage then he would pick up the phone and basically spike this story’ . . .I had three people at the very top of the administration calling me and the response was like ‘are you kidding me, I don’t know what they have, run a story, I’m not going to do it.’ The calls kept coming and they were like ‘you need to call, please call.’”
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Extortion?
"Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; but if the amount so extorted or demanded does not exceed $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."
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§ 11.448 Abuse of office.
A person acting or purporting to act in an official capacity or taking advantage of such actual or purported capacity commits a misdemeanor if, knowing that his or her conduct is illegal, he or she:

(a) Subjects another to arrest, detention, search, seizure, mistreatment, dispossession, assessment, lien or other infringement of personal or property rights; or

(b) Denies or impedes another in the exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege, power or immunity."

Extortion is: "The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.

As far abuse of power, please specifically indicate how Trumps behavior meets the language in the code.

Or can all you do is copy and paste from dailykos or https://jonathanturley.org?

What a dullard.

exiledonmainstreet said...

One Dumski kisses the ass of another Dumski. It's a human centipede of Stupid.

Fen said...

Unknow : "no shit Jose"

You can't be this stupid. Ivanka is complaining about the viciousness she first encountered back in November. Trump is punching back at some of those vicious people in June.

I know you little Marxist twats just hate it when your victims fight back.

Chuck said...

Jupiter said...
"He called you chumps. He said that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and you'd still support him. It's one of the truest and most significant things Trump has ever said."

I still remember back when Chuck was claiming to be a "lifelong Republican", and his problem with Trump was that Trump was the only Republican candidate who could not beat Hillary.

Now it appears that Chuck's problem with Trump is that he beat Hillary, and inspires such loyalty that he is likely to beat the next corrupt sack of shit the Democrats run against him. Kind of sounds like Chuck has gone back to being a lifelong Democrat.

Trump, it turns out, was one of the many Republicans who could beat Hillary. I'm not so sure, with the election data now in, that Hillary -- who I said before the election was the worst Dem nominee since Al Smith -- could have beaten a-n-y Republican.

As for the rest of your bullshit; you shouldn't do that. You are not supposed to be calling out other commenters by name. Althouse asked you/everyone to not do that. You ruin her commenting pages, and force her to go in and delete lots of posts when it gets out of hand. As it all too frequently does.

You haven't quoted me; you blandly mischaracterized me and made up something about me.

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Michael K said...

Limbaugh has a great riff on all this from what I guess is yesterday's show.

You know what bullying is to them? If you disagree with them. That’s it. All you have to do is disagree with a leftist and you automatically become a bully. The people that were bullies when I was growing up were constantly attacking and mocking and making fun of and attempting to take advantage of and usually trying to force an army of people along with them. They would isolate you and they would genuinely try to scare you.

The lefties are hysterical and it's fun to watch.

FullMoon said...


Blogger Unknown said...

Ivanka Trump: "There is a level of viciousness that I was not expecting (in DC)."

Melania Trump: "Our culture has gotten too mean."

Donald Trump: ...to Mar-a-Lago 3 nights in a row around New Year's Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!

No shit, Jose!


Yeah, makes your kind want to go out and murder republicans at softball practice, or assassinate cops in Texas.
Like I say, put a Trump bumper sticker on your wifes car. Let us know what happens

Trumpit said...

I just used Althouse's Amazon portal to buy Frontier Co-op "Whole German Chamomile Flowers certified organic." The smell is heavenly, and the health benefits of chamomile tea are are well-known and well-documented. Everybody should buy some; you will thank me.

Mika should have added that she will have a facelift when and if she wants one. It is elective cosmetic surgery, but if you feel self-conscious about your wrinkles and sagging skin, then have one if you can afford it. It is important to find a really good doctor even if you have to pay more for it. Some facelifts are bad. You don't want the skin to look overly stretched, which was a common result in the past.

Martin said...

The whole thing is weird, but keep in mind that Trump is a notorious germophobe, doesn't even like to shake hands on a rope line. One might then speculate that "bleeding from a face-lift" might be a Trumpian exaggeration building off his fears of infection...

or, maybe it's just crazy.

Inga said...

Here you go incurious monkey.

"Such provisions convey the heightened danger of criminal conduct committed by those with official authority. However, extortion is commonly prosecuted when someone is seeking the gaining of property or money. That pecuniary interest is the key, though the threat can include harm to reputation or unfavorable government action.

https://jonathanturley.org/2017/06/30/did-the-white-house-staff-try-to-coerce-the-morning-joe-hosts-with-a-national-enquirer-threat/#more-119693

Inga said...

Unknown,
It's great fun seeing them witness their Golden God with feet of clay crumbling. So far it's slow motion, but the end will be swift.

Jupiter said...

Chuckles protested;

"You haven't quoted me; you blandly mischaracterized me and made up something about me."

Chuck, I put quote marks around the text entered under your name on this thread. If someone else has been commenting here under your name, I apologize. Otherwise, I have, in fact, quoted you.

Now, as to your civility bullshit, note that the quoted statement begins "He called you chumps." Who is blandly mischaracterizing whom?

eric said...

I guess Inga realizes she was wrong about the blackmail happening this morning. I'll take your silence as an apology.

Jupiter said...

And Cuck, my opinion would be that you and Inga are the ones "ruining her commenting pages", although I wouldn't put it quite so clumsily. What I am thinking is that Althouse' blog, and the comment section, began to receive a degree of media attention during the last Presidential campaign. Someone in the Democrat machine noticed that the conservatives seemed to be getting the better of it, and they recruited some lifelong losers like yourself to try to reverse the trend.

Chuck said...

Jupiter;
"Now it appears that Chuck's problem with Trump is that he beat Hillary, and inspires such loyalty that he is likely to beat the next corrupt sack of shit the Democrats run against him. Kind of sounds like Chuck has gone back to being a lifelong Democrat."

I am not a Democrat.

My problem with Trump is not that he beat Hillary. I voted for Trump. It would be ironic, if I had in any way rooted for Hillary. My problem with Trump is that he is a Truther, a Vaxxer, and Birther. My other problem with Trump is that he is a liar and a sociopath.

So you got it all wrong about me. You should stick to quoting me, before attempting to mischaracterize me.

Birkel said...

PURPLE ELEPHANTS!

Trump demands we not talk about the purple elephants.

Inga said...

The threat of blackmail may have begun happening back as far April or May, doesn't matter. Your President may be a blackmailer. What matters is that this is is blackmail. Why they revealed it this AM is no mystery.

wwww said...



Good Lord.

It would be so easy for Trump to get to a 50% approval rating by acting as Head-of-State.

Studies of leadership have shown, that if leaders show well-timed vulnerability & humility, it persuades followers to want the leader to succeed.

Vulnerability:

"You know what keeps me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the safety of the American people. I think about North Korea or the possibility of a dirty bomb, and I spend my waking hours thinking of ways to protect the American people against that threat. I think about Little Johnny or Jenny sleeping in their beds, and I want them to sleep peacefully because I am on guard against these threats."

Humility:

"I am honoured to be the President of this Great Country. It amazes me that the American people choose guy born in Queens to be their leader. I think about the tremendous responsibilities of the President when I sit in the Oval Office, and use that time to think about how to fight for those ordinary middle-class Americans who are worried about getting their kids a good chance in life."

Or something like that...

He doesn't need to "feel" humility or vulnerability -- he would just need to fake it!

This is all entertaining, but incredibly stupid.

And the blood stuff is strange.

Inga said...

Beneath the dignity of the Office....

rhhardin said...

Blood libel.

wwww said...

or, maybe it's just crazy.


honestly, I don't think it's hard to figure out. I think he feels betrayed by Mika & Joe. They've known him for years. He thought they were friends & is insulted and angered by their coverage of him.

He lashed out after watching the TV show. His tweeting is impulsive.

The blood stuff -- that's weird because he lowers the office of the president to use it as an insult, but also easy to explain.

It's an attempt to humiliate by

(1) pointing out a bodily function that is uncontrolled and

(2) the fact she's not a young woman and got "work" done.

"You're shitting your pants!" "A booger is coming out of your nose!" "Your water broke!!" "You're bleeding all over your pants!" "You've barfed all over yourself!"




Bay Area Guy said...

Mika B looks like the wife in House of Cards.

And, that's how Hillary -- our former first female President -- was supposed to look

Fen said...

Inga: "extortion blackmail corruption"

Now change the name from Trump to Hillary. Inga will pull a 180 so fast she'll snap her own neck off. Never once during the campaign did Inga complain about Hillary's corruption, so how can she expect us to care about accusations of Trump corruption, especially coming from someone like her.

I'm going to explain this one more time for the Left, not because I expect them to get it, but because I want a clear conscience.

THE DAYS OF US BEING HELD TO DIFFERENT RULES ARE OVER

You lost the election. There are two paths you can take:

1) You can accept the results of the election and suck it up. Yes, you are going to lose political traction, your causes will suffer and even be reversed. But these things are cyclical. Learn from your mistakes, start behaving like decent Americans who simply disagree on policy, call out corruption on your own side and squelch it, call out violence from your own side and squelch it, and in 4-8 years you will get a turn driving the nation. We hope you choose this path, America will be stronger for it.

2) But if you take the second path, we will match you word for word, shot by shot. If Hillary's corruption is no big, then so is Trumps. If you are going to run a coup against our President, then we will run a coup against yours. If you are going to surrender principle to attain power, then so will we. We will no longer remain passive in the face of unprovoked attacks. But he warned, this path will likely turn a cold civil war into a hot one, and we have all the guns. You will not survive it.

So really, the choice is yours. Accept that you lost and move on, or escalate back and forth until you fall forever.

William said...

If Mika and Joe knew about this blatant attempt at extortion and did not reveal it,aren't they guilty of obstruction of justice? Why did they sit on this damning piece of evidence?......I presume everyone you see on television has either had a facelift or will have a facelift. The trick is not to get carried away. Mika is no Megyn Kelly in the looks department, but she doesn't have that wax replica look either.......I can't recall any person in public life who ever had his looks mocked as relentlessly, thoroughly, and professionally as Chris Christie.......Mika, Joe, Hillary, all of them were willing to play in the Trump sandbox. If Trump were so racist, sexist, and mentally erratic, why did they violate their basic values by hanging out with him?

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Bad Lieutenant said...

Notice to the Althouse Commentariat:

The only way to deal with the Life Long Republican Fraud, aka The Fell Wax-Moth, is going to be the silent treatment. Reply to nothing he posts. Let him subsist on right-ons from the likes of Inga and Once and ARM. I think he'll find it thin gruel.

This is going to become another splooge stooge crisis. I can't believe Ann doesn't see it, so we're going to have to save her.

That, or everyone of goodwill pulls out and leaves the Left another echo chamber.

Carry on my wayward sons and daughters.

Inga said...

"THE DAYS OF US BEING HELD TO DIFFERENT RULES ARE OVER"

LOL
Oh blah blah blah, Fen you sure do like the sound of your own voice.

Rules are rules, rules aren't laws. Blackmail is illegal.

Bad Lieutenant said...


Good Lord.

It would be so easy for Trump to get to a 50% approval rating by acting as Head-of-State.

It would be so easy for the President to drive the car if you people would stop trying to grab the wheel.

Michael K said...

" I think he feels betrayed by Mika & Joe. They've known him for years. He thought they were friends & is insulted and angered by their coverage of him.

He lashed out after watching the TV show. His tweeting is impulsive. "

Read the Rush Limbaugh transcript.

I know you won't so here:

It was 2012. So five years ago, and I believe it was a Friday afternoon. I’m sitting here minding my own business, and I get a note that Mika Brzezinski and Scarborough are in town. There’s something going on in town that they’re here, they’re here making an appearance. It might have been Horowitz’s Restoration Weekend or some such thing as that. I think it was at The Breakers. And they asked to come by.

I met Scarborough a long, long time ago. He was a member of the freshman class in 1994. I had never met Mika Brzezinski. They came by here and they were here for about an hour. Could not have been nicer. And I asked Mika, you know, her dad was Zbig, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and I asked her what it was like growing up with her dad national security adviser to Jimmy Carter. She said, “Oh, we went everywhere. Every foreign trip he packed everybody up, we went as a family.”
I heard some fascinating stories.


Scarborough was talking about his rock band and playing the guitar. And I ended up giving each of them an engraved EIB iPad. Do you remember? And they were thrilled, they were happy, and they walked out of here with them after about an hour. And Mika even used her EIB iPad on MSNBC. I have a picture of her using it, showing, flashing it. It was about three weeks later that they started trashing me like I have never been trashed. I don’t even remember what about. And I didn’t hear it ’cause I don’t watch MSNBC. I was told about it.


It's what they do. Just like Trump.

It is just that Trump hits back twice as hard.

You may not like it and it may look crude but some of us don't care.

Bush was a gentleman and look where it got him.

eric said...

Blogger Inga said...
The threat of blackmail may have begun happening back as far April or May, doesn't matter. Your President may be a blackmailer. What matters is that this is is blackmail. Why they revealed it this AM is no mystery.
6/30/17, 11:31 AM


It's a mystery to me.

If I had evidence of Hillary trying to blackmail me, I wouldn't sit on it for 2 months, you know, just in case she decided to insult me some day.

Perhaps you can explain to me why they chose to keep hidden evidence of blackmail? And why do they still keep it hidden? Sure, they said they have it, but I haven't seen it. Have you?

Jupiter said...

Loot,

While I largely agree, that responding to LifeLong just encourages him, I like to recap his sordid history once in a while, for the benefit of those who may have recently joined us. I am fairly sure he is a troll, but I have to admit he is a knowledgeable and skillful troll. "Like a mackerel by moonlight, he stinks and shines".

Inga said...

Eric, who knows if they kept it secret from the FBI.

Michael K said...

"Learn from your mistakes, start behaving like decent Americans who simply disagree on policy, "

Nah. Never happen.

Look at Inga for how they react.

LilyBart said...

Joe Scarborough was MY congressman. No kidding. I actually voted for him. My boss went to high school with him in Pensacola.

The guy that was my congressman and this guy on TV - seem to two different people. I wish you all could see the TV ads he did when he was running. Washington changes people, I think.

Fen said...

Www, I think you are reading too much into the blood reference, understandably because of the Megyn Kelley thing.

I read him as turning two social climbers away from his table because one of them was bleeding from her face. If that's demeaning, it's only from knocking her lacking social graces.

Do you know any woman (or man) who would go to a social event with blood dripping from their face? Even men are expected to clot shaving cuts with toilet paper and then remove the dried bloody paper before they present themselves publicly.

Why didn't Mika? She's upper class. She knows better. So why did she want to sit at Trump's table with blood dripping from her face? I think Althouse is on to something - Mika had MeAgain Kelley on the brain, she wanted to play some angle.

And now she gets to play the victim instead.

Again, the Hit & Cry tactic.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Inga, you've got nothing, you know it, we know it, everybody knows it. The proof is that for six months and more you've been crying wolf and no wolves. If nothing else, President Trump has more than earned the benefit of the doubt.

I don't care what they *say.* Pics or it didn't happen. "Tapes" (!) or it didn't happen. And even if it happened it probably didn't happen the way you said.

You lost. Now you need to stop fighting and understand that President Donald J Trump is in charge of the executive branch and is running the country. When you lose, you need to stop fighting, or else it's not nice anymore and someone who's going to get hurt, namely you.

Bill said...

"Eve sinned!"

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Yancey Ward said...

Unless Scarborough and Brzezinski actually name the people calling them in this alleged blackmailing episode, I will just assume the story is a total fabrication. I haven't watched this morning's broadcast, but as far as I can tell, they named nobody. You have to put a name to the threat, or I will just assume you are making it up.

LilyBart said...

Maybe Melania decided to publicly stand by her husband because she was there with these two in late December and saw how incredibly two-faced they were

Fen said...

Lily, completely understand. Joe was one of my favs, don't understand what happened. I wonder if he made a deal to shush up the dead aide found in his office and now they own him. Because his 180 is like they have his kids hostage or something. Really strange how far down he's gone.

I guess I should cut Peggy Noonan some slack. A lifetime in NYC has made her go a bit wobbly, but she hasn't sold out the way Joe Scarbough did.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@Fen said...
"He fights" And THAT is why he has my support.

Gadfly: So you like bullies who pick on weaker and sometimes docile victims?

Nope. I prefer to think of it as more akin to "thinning the herd". In nature, the weak members of the herd get culled by the more wily predators. It is good for the herd and great for the predators.

tcrosse said...

When is a facelift not a facelift ? When it's a butt lift, and God grant me the wisdom to know the difference.

Yancey Ward said...

Only a moron would describe Scarborough and Brzezinski as defenseless and bullied individuals. Indeed, the entire press corp in D.C. and New York can't be described this way. However, I do enjoy the whining from the press corp about how Trump is treating them badly and unfairly- really do enjoy it. The complete lack of self-awareness this requires is quite stunning.

eric said...

Inga said...
Eric, who knows if they kept it secret from the FBI.
6/30/17, 11:55 AM


Ever heard of Occam's Razor?

To believe this, you have to believe two major media personalities gave the FBI material evidence in a crime by POTUS and not a word of it leaked.

Think about that.

Jupiter said...

"Inga, you've got nothing, you know it, we know it, everybody knows it."

You know it and I know it, but I don't think she knows it. My impression is that Inga lives in a rather different place than the rest of us. It sounds like a fairly Inga-friendly place to live, where dogs don't bite, the sun always shines, and saying makes it so. And Muslims make good, solid American citizens. Strange place, really.

Fen said...

Inga: "What matters is this is blackmail"

It's not. But even if it was it doesn't matter. You never cared about corruption from Hillary, so why should we care about corruption from Trump. Your rules.

---

Meade: If you guys apologize for wasting my time and promise to knock it off, I'll see what I can do to keep Ann from dropping the Ban Hammer on you.

Inga: Blackmail! Blackmail! Shame! SHAME!

Earnest Prole said...

The thing about our dopey politics is that we are all supposed to have an opinion on utterly meaningless things. I see “Morning Joe” is a show watched by less than a quarter of a million people in its prime demographic — in other words, fewer viewers than the number of spectators in the stands at a single NASCAR race, or the number of people who live in Toledo, Ohio. There are dozens of blogs with a greater audience. Does anyone really care who Joe and Mika are or what they think?

Rene Saunce said...

All Trump did is give Mika and Joe a boost.

Not good! Ungood. Badly handled.

Achilles said...

Blogger Unknown said...
@inga

"You go girl! Keep grabbing the Trumpski's by their graying short and curlies and yank hard.

They'll never understand but that is some of the fun.

Stupid is as stupid does. Like you know, voting and rooting for Trump."

You think it is fun bullying and pushing. You support a Party and a movement that uses violence against us. You call us racist homophobic bigot misogynists. You tax the shit out of my companies and force me to appease unelected bureaucrats who have never done a damn thing for anyone. You called us baby killers. Now you are destroying the democratic foundations of the government we fought for by making up a bunch of obvious bullshit.

You think it is fun because we haven't come back at you. Yet.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Jupiter said...
Loot,

While I largely agree, that responding to LifeLong just encourages him, I like to recap his sordid history once in a while,

Jupe, he is good, we have good trolls here. That's how they survive. You or anyone giving him oxygen is one way they last. Even a gasp of air at the right time can sap the whole effort.

Let me encourage you not to give in to temptation. Practice discipline. If anyone else responds to the LLR/FWM, just reply, "Dear X: That Guy Is A Troll. Under The Interdict, For Crimes Against The Blog. Please Ignore. Thanks, Blogging Deputy Marshal" (I hereby deputize you).

Remember, this is Justified.

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Drago said...

Earnest Prole: "The thing about our dopey politics is that we are all supposed to have an opinion on utterly meaningless things."

Well, let me tell you what I think of that little assertion of yours, I.....er....oh.

Never mind.

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Michael K said...

"This is the man you voted for. "

Yes, and I will vote for him in 2020.

And you will be just as crazy.

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Achilles said...

Blogger Rene Saunce said...
" All Trump did is give Mika and Joe a boost.

Not good! Ungood. Badly handled."

A boost with who?

Trump fights. Fights are usually not pretty. Stop whining about the ugly and and start worrying about winning the fight.

It might not matter to you but it matters to me. Trump wins this peacefully or it is war. Everyone will wish he won peacefully afterwards.

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Inga said...

This is the man you voted for and his administration.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/what-happened-between-trump-morning-joe-and-the-enquirer.html

"As a presidential candidate, Donald Trump used his close alliance with the National Enquirer to attack his enemies. Now that he’s President, he’s continuing to benefit from the tabloid’s support.

This morning in a Washington Post op-ed, Morning Joe co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski disclosed that White House officials offered to spike an Enquirer story about their romance if the pair apologized to Trump for the show’s critical coverage. In recent months, Scarborough and Brzezinski have questioned Trump’s mental state and fitness for office. They elaborated on the op-ed on MSNBC this morning. Morning Joe regular Donny Deutsch said it was “blackmail” for Trump to use a hit-piece in the Enquirer to extract an apology from media critics. Trump then tweeted a quasi-confirmation of the behind-the-scenes conversations, saying that Scarborough called to enlist his help to kill the story. Scarborough called Trump’s version a “lie,” tweeting that he never spoke to the president.

In mid-April, Scarborough texted with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner about the pending Enquirer story. Kushner told Scarborough that he would need to personally apologize to Trump in exchange for getting Enquirer owner David Pecker to stop the story. (A spokesperson for Kushner declined to comment). Scarborough says he refused, and the Enquirer published the story in print on June 5, headlined “Morning Joe Sleazy Cheating Scandal!”

The Morning Joe co-hosts decided to talk about the episode a day after Trump inaccurately tweeted that Brzezinski attended a New Year’s Eve party at Mar-a-Lago “bleeding badly from a face-lift.” (A photo from that evening backs up Scarborough and Brzezinski’s denial of this.) While the Enquirer denies that Trump encouraged Pecker to investigate the MSNBC hosts, Trump himself has pushed the story publicly. Last August, he tweeted, “Some day, when things calm down, I’ll tell the real story of @JoeNBC and his very insecure long-time girlfriend, @morningmika. Two clowns!”"

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Achilles said...

Blogger Inga said...
"Enjoy."

"Oh we on the left certainly are enjoying witnessing Trump's public self destruction."

Are you really that stupid to not see who is destroying themselves?

You lost Althouse.

The average voter doesn't like Trump. But they hate the people trying to undermine the lawfully elected president. The average voter -hates- the media.

I don't think you are smart enough to figure this out. It will take a miracle to stop the inevitable.

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exiledonmainstreet said...

"We're getting what we knew would eventually happen, the downfall is in progress."

Ah, yes. How many times have you said this since November?

Scott Walker will be indicted any day now!

Drago said...

You can't tell me Trump never made a crank phone call as a "yute". Thats gotta be worth a couple years in the federal pen.

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exiledonmainstreet said...

I am sure one of these days someone will make a "Downfall" parody about Hitler finding out that Trump will not be impeached.

The woman in the hallway who bursts into tears is named Inga.

Drago said...

Did Trump ever travel cross-country with a dog in a kennel?!!

Come on people! Think!!

exiledonmainstreet said...


" Did I ever have her? LOL! Is this supposed to mean something to me? Althouse lost herself when she fell for Trump, just like you fools."

It is to laugh. Whenever Althouse takes a liberal stance on something or criticizes Trump, she's Inga's best gal pal. Inga can't wait to dive into the comments section to gloat. "See? ALTHOUSE says you're wrong!!"

But when Althouse criticizes the left she becomes just another deplorable.

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Drago said...
You can't tell me Trump never made a crank phone call as a "yute".


"Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"

Drago said...

exileds: ""Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"

EXCELLENT!!

We can add kidnapping to the indictment!

exiledonmainstreet said...

Unnamed sources report that Trump once used his salad fork to eat his ketchup-coated steak.

Michael said...

Inga

Could you find a more moronic example of "blackmail?"
"Trump said he would get the Enquirer to remove a hit piece on them if they would apologize to Trump." Now, to mansplain it just a bit it would be different if you had written that Trump said he would get the Enquirer to publish a hit piece on them unless they apologized. You would not be there yet but would be in the same county if not the same zipcode.

Qwinn said...

Drago, yeah, I've also noticed the infinitely collapsing poll numbers. The ridiculousness and disingenuousness of the Left has grown so dense that not even a ray of intelligence can escape the event horizon of their stupidity singularity..

Drago said...

Qwinn: "The ridiculousness and disingenuousness of the Left has grown so dense that not even a ray of intelligence can escape the event horizon of their stupidity singularity."

On the other hand, a black hole makes a nice "storage container" for all previous charges, assertions, claims that were obvious lies and need to be discarded to make way for all the new ones!

Drago said...

Michael: "Inga Could you find a more moronic example of "blackmail?"

Egad man, what are you doing?

Of course she can! For she is...Inga.

grackle said...

You should stick to quoting me, before attempting to mischaracterize me.

No sooner said than done – see below:

He called you chumps.

More bullshit from the anti-Trump section. Notice, readers, there’s no link provided. Why? Because Trump never called his base, “chumps.” It’s a classic example of Freudian projection, since the Left is forever declaring Trump and Trump voters to be "chumps." Here's a Google search result.

This particular commentor is a champion anti-Trumper but is usually careful to confine most of his comments to ad hominem. This time he left the safe zone of ad hominem to wander around in the dangerous area of facts and tripped over one of them.

The threat of blackmail may have begun happening back as far April or May, doesn't matter.

Goalpost, meet your mover.

Fen said...

Exile: "downfall video... the woman in the hallway who bursts into tears will be Inga.

What if I told you that has already happened? Yes I'm serious. There is an Althouse Parody Downfall video and Inga is named as the woman who bursts into tears.

I can't link, but I'll try to find it for you. It's from way back when Althouse closed the comments. Brb.

Drago said...

New reports are emerging from unnamed sources that it was none other than Donald J Trump who piloted the SR-71 used to ferry VP candidate George HW Bush from the US to Paris for secret meetings with representatives of the Ayatollah in order to gain assurances that the Iranian govt would not release the embassy prisoners until AFTER Reagans election win and inauguration.

This follows additional reports that the Donald J Trump real estate empire was the "vehicle" for the shipment and distribution of CIA procured cocaine being fed into african american communities in the 70's and 80's.

Needless to say, there are reports that DJTrump was the individual who assaulted Tawanna Brawley AND funded the rise of the Third Reich in 1930's Germany.

If you have not heard of these yet, not to worry. Inga is on it.

On. It.

Drago said...

The Weather Channel is reporting Trump driven droughts impacting the Sahara and swarms of locusts descending on parts of the Greater Milwaukee Talk Radio Market Which Includes Several Very Conservative Counties You H8ters.

Bruce Hayden said...

I liked the quote by Lincoln about Grant: "I can not spare this man. He fights." That is why I think it likely that the 2020 election won't be close. Trump is a street fighter, and that is what the right, the Republicans, have needed for a generation now. Like Grant, he takes the fight to the enemy. And, make no mistake, Mika has always been the enemy. She was raised that way, and Joe joined them.

Strategically, I think that it could be argued, that Crooked Hillary, in ignoring working class whites and their needs, has effectively destroyed the future of the Dem party for the next decade or so. Working class have always been the fighters, the brawlers, esp as compared to the upper middle class, long time the center of the Republican Party. I have little doubt that my late mother, descended from a long line of Republcans, all the way back to Lincoln's 1860 election, would have been appalled by Trump, and probably would have voted for solidly middle class raised Crooked Hillary. But, a lot of conservatives have been looking for a fighter to lead them, and getting more and more fed up with the sort of Turn the Other Cheek niceness and appeasement they have seen in so many of the Republican leaders. GW Bush let his second term be destroyed by the Dems and their MSM arm by being too nice, acting Presidential, and above the fight. Romney, too, lost in part by being too nice. As we have seen with the Dems/MSM taking on Trump - they aren't nice people. Politics, for them, is a blood sport, and pretending like it isn't, as so Republican leaders have, for so long, is a losing strategy.

The thing is, is that the working class voters who swung over to Trump this last election don't believe in winning by being nicer than the other side. They too believe in taking the fight to the enemy. They love what Trump is doing. They understand the concept of hitting back twice as hard. This is why probably even more of them will vote for Trump in 3 years, while a lot of Never Trump conservatives will do so because he has governed fairly conservatively. And, what is there not to like? He is taking a meat cleaver to the Obama regulatory state. Green lighted allowing our military to win again. Put America First again. Heading towards energy independence. Etc.

Fen said...

Exile, crack open a beer and google "Madison Downfall" from 2013.


Enjoy!

MayBee said...

I cannot believe how stupid all of this is.

Drago said...

Bruce Hayden nails it.

Trump is locking down, and I do mean locking down, key voter blocks in the states that matter.

One of the lefties early in thread was talking about how Mika and Joe are one of the most watched shows in DC/NY by the usual suspects.

To which an inquisitive political strategist might inquire: and how many "divisions of voters" does that block of Mika/Joe viewers have in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida?

Answer: ZERO

Drago said...

MayBee: "I cannot believe how stupid all of this is."

Any more stupid than the fake Russian dossier?

There must be a new Trump outrage manufactured daily. Daily. It's the only play remaining in the dem playbook.

Inga said...

LOL! Oh Lordy ya can't make this stuff up.


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Watched low rated @Morning_Joe for first time in long time. FAKE NEWS. He called me to stop a National Enquirer article. I said no! Bad show
7:55 AM · Jun 30, 2017
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Joe Scarborough @JoeNBC

Yet another lie. I have texts from your top aides and phone records. Also, those records show I haven't spoken with you in many months.

Michael K said...

GW Bush let his second term be destroyed by the Dems and their MSM arm by being too nice, acting Presidential, and above the fight. Romney, too, lost in part by being too nice. As we have seen with the Dems/MSM taking on Trump - they aren't nice people. Politics, for them, is a blood sport, and pretending like it isn't, as so Republican leaders have, for so long, is a losing strategy.

I'm not "working class" and I love it. Career FSOs love it. Here's one.

I just wish he would get his administration staffed but I understand why it is hard.

Bruce Hayden said...

Some other great Lincoln quotes:

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

Elections belong to the people. It's their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.

Seeing Red said...

Voting for Trump does not necessarily mean that voter fell for him, Inga. You assume too much.

Seeing Red said...

You see as adversaries?

Are you suggesting, Inga, Mika and Joe aren't adversaries?

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Jupiter said...

"Unnamed sources report that Trump once used his salad fork to eat his ketchup-coated steak."

Ketchup on steak? This time he's gone too far!

Michael K said...

"Ketchup on steak? This time he's gone too far!"

Well done steak !!!

Impeach !

exiledonmainstreet said...


"Ketchup on steak? This time he's gone too far!"

Believe me, it gave me second thoughts.

I'll let you in on something else. Steve Bartman didn't catch that ball.....it was really......TRUMP!

He was just disguised as Bartman!

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