June 14, 2017

"The Virginia shooting suspect is dead, President Trump said. He had been identified as James Hodgkinson, 66, of Belleville, Ill."

Banner at the NYT.

ADDED: Here's a tweet from Chuck Todd:

Meanwhile... what do we know about James Hodgkinson, 66, of Belleville, Ill.? I suspect there are a number of people with that name, but here's a Facebook page, with a Bernie Sanders image as the profile picture:



AND: Another screen grab from the Facebook page:



ALSO: More from the Facebook page:

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AllenS said...

Loser. Bigly.

Achilles said...

Did Sarah Palin make another map of congressional districts to target?

zipity said...

Will Democrats/LameStream Media© hold themselves responsible for this, as they surely would be demanding the Republicans do if the situation were reversed. There has been no shortage of violent, eliminationist rhetoric from the Left/Democrats.


Not a snowballs chance in hell. Numerous Lefties are already blaming TRUMP for this, due to his "hateful" rhetoric.


Nice. Fall back on the old "of course she was raped, look how she was dressed..." excuse. Also since they believe anyone supporting Trump is by default a Nazi, and it is of course OK to punch a Nazi, surely it must be OK to shoot a Nazi....


Despicable.

Mr. D said...

Well, Trump won’t be bothering him any more.

Achilles said...

Oh damn I guess we can't blame Sarah for this one.

Clyde said...

A "lone wolf" Trump-hating Bernie supporter who was "radicalized online." I blame the radical Democratist media.

Scott M said...

You're going to see that Chuck Todd tweet again and again and again...

cubanbob said...

Guy was a bigly Rachel Maddow fan and Bernie Sanders supporter.... just saying.

Gahrie said...

attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more

Does he think the Left actually gives a shit? Is he expecting a push from the Right for more gun control? Nope...he's just giving cover for violence from the Left.

MayBee said...

I don't believe in "civility bullshit". But I do believe cable news outlets could start providing more news and stop providing 24/7 political controversy. I don't think it's healthy for any of us. I know it stressed me out so much I've had to turn it off. And I'm happy, healthy, and sane.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

We'll never know his motive.

OMG!!!!11!!!! Did you see what Trumpler just tweeted!!! Literally W.O.R.S.E than HITLER.

Michael said...

Also we should be on guard for a backlash against Muslims as so often happens,.

Virgil Hilts said...

The interesting Qs not yet answered - what was he doing in the D.C. area with a rifle (he must have know he couldn't take it into D.C - that would be illegal)?
Was shooting up a baseball practice of Republicans Plan C - it's kind of hard to imagine that as Plan A. But if it was Plan C, what were aborted plans A and B?
If one of them involved Trump as a target then this is going to get nasty.

Dave from Minnesota said...

I for a screen shot of his Facebook post saying "Its time to destroy Trump & Co".

MayBee said...

And I hope Chuck Todd looks inward, and looks at his colleagues, and they see how they contribute to the toxic culture.

Hours and hours of argument, often accusing the other side of happily letting other people die. Often accusing officials of treason and racism. All heat, very little light.

JohnAnnArbor said...

He used bad grammar. "Asshole" is one word.

Greg Hlatky said...

James Hodgkinson, Prog martyr.

Dave from Minnesota said...

Virgil...good points. I agree. He didn't drive from greater St Louis to DC to shoot people at a softball game in Alexandria Virginia. He had something else in mind. Maybe hunt down Paul Ryan?

eric said...

That's the right page. His widow has already been heard from. Seems like the guy was a pretty normal leftist hater of Trump.

I'm sure all the overheated rhetoric about Trump and Republicans had nothing to do with this.

Also, your comment on Steve Scalise this morning was awful. It's a lie and it shouldn't be included here since racists are already using it as justification for him being shot.

robother said...

"Trump is a traitor." Geeze Chuck, wonder where he could've gotten that idea? But by all means, lets keep politics out of this tragedy, and unite around Gov. Mcauliffe's call on CNN this morning for greater gun control.

eric said...

Michael said...
Also we should be on guard for a backlash against Muslims as so often happens,.

6/14/17, 11:05 AM


I know you're being funny here, but I'm already seeing tweets that are sympathetic for his poor widow and how she is being treated.

pacwest said...

Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture-which I have helped to create.

Fixed it for him.

Is there any possibility the MSM will do any self reflection? I can hope.

Fen said...

LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THOSE ASSASINATION PORNOS, yes Altbouse?

Trumpit said...

“He was hunting us at that point,” said Representative Mike Bishop, Republican of Michigan, who was standing at home plate when the shooting began at 7:09 a.m. Mr. Bishop said the gunman seemed to be “double-tapping” the trigger of his weapon. “There was so much gunfire, you couldn’t get up and run,” he said. “Pop, pop, pop, pop — it’s a sound I’ll never forget.”

It is always a good time to protest against hunting whether it is deer or our fellow human beings. No living creature should be hunted; it is vile, revolting and inhuman. The Republican legislators, who themselves have been hunted, should introduce legislation to outlaw hunting. Like Trump said about North Korea's ICBM's, it's never going to happen. Sad!

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Virgil Hilts said...

Dave from Minnesota - thanks. Not my original thought; others on Twitter were pointing out that this will be the focus of the real investigation. Will be interesting to find out what this guy has been doing and where he has gone over last two weeks.

Owen said...

Very sorry we can't question him.

Otherwise, good riddance.

Mike Sylwester said...

It's very nice of Chuck Todd to discourage people from exploiting our toxic political culture.

YoungHegelian said...

Oh, what a surprise --- a Bernie Bro.

What did the Democratic Party do when the (self-proclaimed) Bernie-ites & further Left shut down the Trump rally in Chicago & assaulted attendees at San Diego?

Absolutely nothing. Not a damn thing. When public Bernie supporters shut down Republican voters exercising their constitutional rights of free speech & assembly at Chicago, what did Bernie say "I don't have any control over those people.".

Yeah, Bernie -- Mao lost control of the Red Guards, too. Funny how that works.

Char Char Binks said...

If he was black they woulda killed him.

Fen said...

Trump was scheduled to host meetings in the Department of Labor building today. Cancelled because of shooting.

wendybar said...

Your forgot this picture... https://www.facebook.com/beingalibertarian/photos/a.256552551217454.1073741829.246976735508369/664439377095434/?type=3&theater

Owen said...

Very sorry we can't question him.

Otherwise, good riddance.

wildswan said...

The guy lost his licence to be a home inspector in Illinois which probably destroyed his ability to make a living. Why did he lose his licence? Was there a patronage issue?

With everything gone, did he decide on suicide by police?

Did he have a gun license in Illinois?

He would never have gotten any where near the Congressional office buildings carrying a rifle. That's why he went for the baseball practice.

But - how did someone from Illinois know about and find the baseball practice in the middle of DC rush hour? Were there helpers?

I'll see if lamestream answers any real questions.

Static Ping said...

I don't recommend we jump to conclusions. For once, Chuck Todd is making sense.

That said, given Twitchy's coverage of various responses to the shooting, Chuck is way too late.

Achilles said...

Blogger MayBee said...
"And I hope Chuck Todd looks inward, and looks at his colleagues, and they see how they contribute to the toxic culture."

Chuck Todd does not decide what he reports. He takes what is given to him by the people that own NBC. He is just a mouthpiece for the globalists that are trying to destroy our country.

Lyle Smith said...

Huzzah for Althouse and her civility bullshit views!

Rene Saunce said...

This guy was a Maddow superfan.

figures.

"hands up don't shoot" Maddow - a lying liar who lies.

David Docetad said...

Chuck Todd can go to hell.

I blame Democrat hate rhetoric for directly causing this shooting. I blame that pathetic comedian with Trump's severed head. I blame the Public Theater and their summer production of Julius Caesar. I blame American Express for sponsoring it.

Isn't this how the game is played Democrats?

Real American said...

What Chuck means is that we shouldn't exploit our toxic political culture to BLAME DEMOCRATS for their eliminationist rhetoric and violence. We wouldn't want to keep Democrats from enjoying all of their Trump assassination chic.

Rene Saunce said...

Exactly.

The entire corrupt democrat lie machine and the lie machine hack press have blood on their collective liar hands.

Roy Jacobsen said...

Trumpet, you are an opportunistic, ghoul.

Oso Negro said...

50 shots fired, one casualty, who hopefully recovers. Progressive marksmanship is about as expected.

MayBee said...

When Jake Tapper heard about the shooter at comet pizza, he said about the pizza gate people, "You guys are going to get someone killed"

But I bet he doesn't see himself as one of the "you guys" when it comes to other issues. I bet he doesn't see his colleagues as the "you guys"

eric said...

Trumpit spewed,

"It is always a good time to protest against hunting whether it is deer or our fellow human beings. No living creature should be hunted; it is vile, revolting and inhuman. The Republican legislators, who themselves have been hunted, should introduce legislation to outlaw hunting."

I'm pretty sure hunting of human beings is already illegal.

So now you're just talking about hunting other critters. Which is one of the biggest non sequiturs I've ever seen.

Blogger Char Char Binks said...
If he was black they woulda killed him.


He is dead.

Dave from Minnesota said...

Roy.....I think Trumpet is mocking the left.

Dave from Minnesota said...

Think about all the death threats Memories Pizza and the 72 year old great grandmother florist received from the Gaystapo.

Bay Area Guy said...

Shorter Chuck Todd:

Please don't blame us!

Etienne said...

...and so begins the James Hodgkinson fan club, where everyone makes him a national media hero, for his surprise attack. A date which will live in infamy...

I hope no one re-posts evidence of his mental illness. You know, stuff that is on his face book.

Boy, now that would be bad.

Swede said...

I wonder if this guy owns a pussy hat?

Most likely.

Virgil Hilts said...

I would like to see everything pivot to the capitol police who seem to have saved multiple lives despite (at least one of them) being shot. True heroes. I want to see their photos rather than any more of this lunatic.

pacwest said...

If no one else self reflects I hope TTR does. The similarities are disturbing.

James K said...

I hope no one re-posts evidence of his mental illness. You know, stuff that is on his face book.


Guessing his FB page is indistinguishable from thousands of other BernieBots and "Resistance" types.

richlb said...

Todd is the one exploiting this. Notice the use of "WE" have a toxic political culture. He's not referring to the media, which he should be. He means "YOU," Trump supporter. And if this was a Trump supporter lighting up Dem congressmen, he'd have a MUCH different tweet ready to go.

Brookzene said...

I agree with Chuck Todd.

Original Mike said...

"Was shooting up a baseball practice of Republicans Plan C - it's kind of hard to imagine that as Plan A. But if it was Plan C, what were aborted plans A and B?"

Plan A was to prove Trump colluded with the Russians followed by his impeachment. Plan B was to prove Trump obstructed the investigation of Trump colluding with the Russians followed by his impeachment. Plan C was all they had left.

Paul said...

Seems now Hodgkinson was a Bernie man, Maddow super-fan, and anti-Trump supporter. But don't worry folks, all this obscene beheading of Trump stuff didn't incite him. Yea, right.

Rick said...

Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture and that attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more


Don't poison us, just sit there while we poison you.

Christopher said...

You're going to see that Chuck Todd tweet again and again and again...

Chuck Todd had a Twitter account when Gabby Giffords was shot, is all I'm sayin'

Swede said...

HE'S RESISTING IN HEAVEN NOW!

Brookzene said...

And anyone else who agrees with Chuck Todd - that overrides our politics.

I Callahan said...

Chuck Todd's tweet would have more merit if he said the same thing around the time of Ferguson MO, Oakland CA and Baltimore MD. I find it too convenient that he says it now.

Aaron Csicseri said...

I don't see any evidence that proves that Trump isn't somehow responsible for this convenient distraction. In his most recent remarks about the shooting, Trump DID NOT refute the theory that he was involved in some way (he also didn't mention the victims of the holocaust!). I call for an independent investigation into Trumps association with this shooting, which will require all the personal communications between the president and his staff, as well as his wife, the First lady.

Michael McClain said...

Why are the LibCong so violent?

Virgil Hilts said...

David Bailey - I think this guy one of the CP heroes
https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-bailey-414bb46/

Unknown said...

Brookzene: This murderer had the exact same political views as you do, down to supporting violence against Republicans.

What guarantee do we have that you won't take a gun and go try to kill Republicans? You and TTR and Inga and Once have spouted identical Bernie stuff just like this dead guy, down to the insane hate. I note you haven't commented other than 'Please don't politicize this against my side!"

On the Federalist we have several Democrats going around praising this guy and wishing he was a better shot.

How are we to protect ourselves from violent Democrats who have hyped themselves into pure hatred of "Hitler Trump" and "Nazi Republicans"?

Clyde said...

Swede said...
HE'S RESISTING IN HEAVEN NOW!
6/14/17, 11:33 AM


I'm guessing that he's somewhere hotter, where he won't be needing a sweater.

rhhardin said...

Rush is on, deploring something. I'm not really listening.

The entertainment value of the whole thing was lost very quickly to predictability.

LilyBart said...

No one thinks that, had the shooter been from the right, that Chuck Todd would have cautioned against 'using this for political advantage'. In fact, I'd guess he'd be leading the mob to paint all repubs with guilt!

Dave from Minnesota said...

AP has a photo of him protesting in Belleville Il...carrying a sign saying "tax the rich" and attacking President Reagan.

Big Mike said...

I see that Chuck Todd carefully waited until it was clear that the shooter was a left-wing whacko before issuing his statement calling for us not to "exploit today for political gain." I wonder why the latest generation of journalists inspires such cynicism in me. A serious head-scratcher, that.

rhhardin said...

The curious thing is the continuing lack of interest in good character.

If it's impressive enough it makes an example.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Brookzene said...
And anyone else who agrees with Chuck Todd - that overrides our politics."

Fuck your fake piety, you hypocrite.

You know damn well that if this guy had been a Trump supporter shooting at Democrat pols, you wouldn't be making sanctimonious pronouncements about how we should rise above politics.

This would-be mass murderer is one of yours. He thought like you and Inga and Ritmo do. Own it.


Dave from Minnesota said...

"The shooter was James T. Hodgkinson of Belleville, who belonged to a number of anti-Republican groups, including one called 'Terminate the Republican Party.'"

William said...

It's only by happenstance that there was not a mass murder on that baseball field. It seems that the guy was motivated more by politics than by lunacy.......I don't know you can draw a direct line from the gestalt to this shooter, but it was definitely part of his motivation. If all the violent anti-Trump rhetoric keeps up, he won't be a one off. If the directors of Central Park Shakespeare group had any sense of dcency they would cut out that scene. I doubt that they will.

Dave from Minnesota said...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1415090015389620/

mockturtle said...

Young Hegelian observes: Yeah, Bernie -- Mao lost control of the Red Guards, too. Funny how that works.

Yep, just as the French Revolution got a little out of hand. So much hate has to be spent somewhere.

Virtually Unknown said...

It's kind of a parody of the left that a Republican judge was killed to death in that other shooting, but it is still known as the "Giffords shooting." They are still exploiting that one for political gain, even today. Civility Bullshit tag required.

pacwest said...

The far left lost a lot of the center today.

tcrosse said...

This is totally ad hominem, but it's hard to take Chuck Todd seriously when he wears those absurd bangs. He looks like a road-show Caligula ( I'd say Caesar, but don't want to exploit our toxic political culture ).

Brookzene said...

I think I talked in an earlier post about how other groups could start using the tactics of Islamic terrorists, and that it could catch on. I would expect to see more of this from other people who believe they are part of an aggrieved group.

zipity said...

If the "mainstream" Democrats don't start tamping down their own hateful rhetoric, and their violent supporters, they should not be surprised if it begins a disatrous spiral out of control.

I don't think they will like the results of a genuine civil war. Who do you think would be better at military tactics and use of firearms? Pajama boy, Leftist women's studies professors, and woke feminists, or millions of NRA members....?

mockturtle said...

May God resist his soul.

Todd said...

Chuck Todd ✔ @chucktodd
Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture and that attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more


LOL! That is your bread and butter you dem, liberal whore! You and the rest of the media are prime drivers of this.

Play book:

Guy takes shot at Democrat:
- assume shooter is white, male, Republican, racist
- when demonstrated not white or republican, ignore as long as possible
- call for more gun control
- denounce Republican climate of hate
- denounce right-wing eliminationist rhetoric

Guy takes shot at Republican:
- assume shooter is white, male, far-right Republican, racist
- when demonstrated not white or republican, ignore as long as possible
- call for more gun control
- denounce Republican climate of hate
- denounce right-wing eliminationist rhetoric

Virtually Unknown said...

Comment from the "Terminate the GOP" group to which the shooter belonged.

"I just want my regular scheduled programs stop all the blah blah blah...it wasn't horrific they are full of shit. Pulse was horrific!"

I guess by Twitter that they are doubling down, I guess this time hoping to recruit a better shot.

mockturtle said...

tcrosse quips re Chuck Todd: He looks like a road-show Caligula

:-D

MayBee said...

I want to be clear: I don't advocate people not being able to criticize, even strongly, their political opponents.
I just think our news media needs to do a better job of not creating an atmosphere of constant contention, chaos, and stress. As Althouse noted about CNN this very morning, well before this shooting.

There are reasoned and reasonable ways to present the news, even news that is critical of political policy.

Original Mike said...

Blogger pacwest said..."The far left lost a lot of the center today."

One can hope.

Brookzene said...

Same playbook for everybody. It's a definite evolving situation though. The more that violent angry and self-centered people take center stage the more others will offer good will to one another. I think that's one of the things you are going to notice about times of extremity.

Angel-Dyne said...

"Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture and that attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more"

One has to admire how quickly the official line gets distributed to the troops, and how efficiently they get into formation and start bleating it in unison.

Really, it's impressive. Our own resident lefties were on it chop-chop this morning, the Toxic Political Culture from Outer Space That We Must All Fight Together. All on the same page, all singing the same verse.

Too bad it's too late and they're only singing to each other, now.

rhhardin said...

A Rush caller has stumbled into a connection.

Both the Shakespeare performance and the shooting happen in parks.

Alex said...

Already leftist justifying it saying the congressman attending a meeting sponsored by David Duke. So does that mean they can justify assassinating David Duke? The left is utterly unhinged now, between their Trump assassination porn and real violence.

Achilles said...

Check the twitter conversation

Let's just say the lefties are not viewing this as a tragedy.

Swede said...

Democracy Now!, Ed Schultz, Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow, The Daily Show, Hillary Clinton, Dan Rather, Jon Stewart, The HuffPost, Occupy Democrats, Keith Olbermann, Bernie, Michigan Democratic Party, Illinois Progressive Network, Jill Stein, Mobilize Missouri, St. Clair County IL Democrats, No More Republicans, Clinton/Kaine 2016, Elizabeth Warren for President 2020, Bernie Sanders Progressives, Michelle Obama, The Amazing Atheist, Vocal Progressives, Americans Against The Tea Party, Right Wing Watch, Leftwing Radio Stations, Progressive Democrats of America, Democratic Party, Liberal and Proud Of It, Lewis Black, Americans Against the Republican Party, ACLU Nationwide, MoveOn.Org, Southern Poverty Law Center, Michael Moore, Liberal America, Daily Kos, Barack Obama, Madame President, The Progressive Offensive, Stephen Colbert, Paul Krugman, Nation of Change.

Just some of the things this twat supported on his facebood page.

Indistinguishable from the lefty douchebags that post here.

Virtually Unknown said...

I wonder if the actor who played Trump/Caesar rose to acknowledge the standing ovation, or. did he remain on the stage, festooned with knives and drenched in blood, so as not to spoil the moment?

Unknown said...

Did I just miss this, or did Brookzene just totally endorse the shooter and warn people that more attacks on Republicans are coming, and that they would be justified?

--Vance

Brookzene said...

"One has to admire how quickly the official line gets distributed to the troops, and how efficiently they get into formation and start bleating it in unison."

Actually I think it's a pretty natural and human response for many people in a time of chaos or extremity. I'm thinking of how often Solzhenitsyn dealt with that theme is his work.

Rick said...

Big Mike said...
I see that Chuck Todd carefully waited until it was clear that the shooter was a left-wing whacko before issuing his statement calling for us not to "exploit today for political gain." I wonder why the latest generation of journalists inspires such cynicism in me. A serious head-scratcher, that.


I tried to search his feed for June 15 2015, the day of Dylan Roof's Charleston church murders. What are the chances he issued a similar admonishment?

donald said...

One of the big whines in the Gawker/Jezebel scene was the overt violent tendencies and actual violence of the Bernie bros. Vaginas of all genders were inculcated with sand and fear.

Today? They are all Bernie Bros. Go figger.

Paddy O said...

"Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture and that attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more"

My first reading gave me the impression he's saying "You're to blame if you keep making us angrier and more bad things happen."

Toxic spills don't clean themselves up by themselves. If something is toxic, then addressing and fixing the source of the particular poison is vital.

Achilles said...

Brookzene said...
I think I talked in an earlier post about how other groups could start using the tactics of Islamic terrorists, and that it could catch on. I would expect to see more of this from other people who believe they are part of an aggrieved group.

You mean there is a reason the left wants more Muslims in our country?

exiledonmainstreet said...

pacwest said...
The far left lost a lot of the center today."

Let us hope.

All decent people should be utterly repelled by Leftists.

Fen said...

"How are we to protect ourselves from Democrats hyped on pure hatred?"

Hypothetically? You have to respond pre-emptively and with disproportionate force.

As we can already see from the reactions, the hate-mongering media will not accept responsibility and dial back the incifeful venom, and their brownshirts on Twitter are celebrating the attack. Their only regret is that he was such a poor shot. Appeals to reason and civility will not change their behavior.

The only thing they will understand is force. Rachael Madxow and Kathy Griffin. And if that doesn't wake them up, then Bernie Sanders, Chelsea Clinton and Terry McCaulif.

Rinse and repeat until they ask for peace. Or wait your turn to be shot or smacked over the head with a bicycle lock by the Nazi left.

pacwest said...

Sorry MSM, Pelosi, Schumer the elephant is in the room and clearly seen by all. Come together is not going to cut it.

donald said...

Do they actually play baseball? Some news readers interchange baseball and softball when discussing it.

Don't mean to be douchey, and can't tell from a quick search.

rhhardin said...

There's a House NATO. "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us." Speaksr Ryan said, if I heard the news cut properly.

Brookzene said...

"Toxic spills don't clean themselves up by themselves. If something is toxic, then addressing and fixing the source of the particular poison is vital."

Maybe we'll be able to tell the difference between the same ole same ole leading to lack of productivity and even violence, and something really different. Maybe we can learn to see that in ourselves.

Achilles said...

Unknown said...
Did I just miss this, or did Brookzene just totally endorse the shooter and warn people that more attacks on Republicans are coming, and that they would be justified?

--Vance


You posted before I did and more directly. Go to Chuck Todd's twitter post above and look at what the leftists are saying there. Brookzene is not alone in endorsing this.

Islam is not compatible with modern liberal society. Neither is progressivism apparently.

rhhardin said...

Bernie Sanders is stunned that one of his supporters would attack the Republican baseball team.

Bob Boyd said...

Is it just me or does the shooter look like Walter Sobchak?
http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/james-hodgkinson-photos-bernie-sanders-trump-liberal-democrat-facebook-pictures-t-shooter-gunman/

I heard one unverified report that while he was shooting he kept yelling,"This is what happens Larry! This is what happens..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ausPKEMVk0

Rick said...

pacwest said...
The far left lost a lot of the center today.


Even if they lost 100% of it a few dozen votes doesn't mean much.

chuck said...

Can't say I'm surprised, I've been expecting assassination attempts for some time given the hysteria on the left and the 24/7 propaganda of the MSM. Yes, I do blame the left and Democrats here. The perp doesn't seem completely sane, but neither does he sound like a paranoid schizophrenic. In other words, he sounds like a marginal lefty nutball of the usual sort.

Trumpit said...

"A ghoul is a monster or evil spirit in Arabic mythology, associated with graveyards and consuming human flesh."

Hunters are all ghouls. But not all ghouls are hunters.

"Trumpet, you are an opportunistic, ghoul."

Do you frequently blow your horn?

Yancey Ward said...

Only a moron thinks Todd would have sent such a tweet if the party affiliations had been the other way around- the man (Todd) has a record after all that can't be ignored here just because it makes one's political comrades look bad.

On the bright side for the Democrats here is that at least Hodgkinson appears to be a white guy. On the bright side for the Republicans, at least he appears to have been a poor marksman. Other than that, good riddance to Hodgkinson.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I would say that the only good thing that came of this was that there is one less Democrat voter.

But the shitbag was from Illinois. So you know he'll still be voting in upcoming elections.

rhhardin said...

Something about UPS drivers in brown uniforms hugging each other in San Francisco.

#TopOfTheHourNews

Paddy O said...

Brookzene, I'm not sure what you mean. (not being snarky, I really don't understand what you're getting at).

If you're saying that we should address the toxicity in ourselves, I totally agree. We're much better at blaming and excusing and scapegoating.

Be the change we want to see in others, not wait until others change.

Snark said...

"But the shitbag was from Illinois. So you know he'll still be voting in upcoming elections."

LOL

Matthew Sablan said...

I wonder if Chuck Todd will remember that when the bloody shirt could be waved to his benefit.

exiledonmainstreet said...

In other words, he sounds like a marginal lefty nutball of the usual sort.

6/14/17, 12:04 PM

In other words, like Trumpit, only less crazy.

rhhardin said...

We need unity and the side that gets it first wins.

Francisco D said...

When I heard the shooter was a Bernie Bro from suburban Chicago, I thought "Oh no. It's my brother-in-law." They are both resentful socialists who cannot tolerate the idea that many people are much more successful than they are.

It will be interesting to see how the MSM spins this incident. They could tamp things down or use it to stir up more Trump derangement. If the latter, expect a Trump assassination attempt in the next two years.

Drago said...

Matthew Sablan: "I wonder if Chuck Todd will remember that when the bloody shirt could be waved to his benefit."

Not a chance.

History begins anew each day for the leftists.

Fen said...

Shutdown Twitter, Facebook and MSNBC as hate sites.

If you prefer a peaceful resolution.

Yanking the cord on MSNBC will send a message to the other networks that if they don't get their house in order they will be next.

Virtually Unknown said...

I agree with Chuck Todd

Of course you do, but it all depend on whose ox is getting gored. I guess we have time to see if this is a Road to Damascus moment for Brookzene, and he really is going to condemn incitement to violence from all sides, or if this is just one more hudna from the left for tactical advantage.

Brookzene said...

"If you're saying that we should address the toxicity in ourselves, I totally agree. We're much better at blaming and excusing and scapegoating.

Be the change we want to see in others, not wait until others change."

I endorse this Paddy O. I think this is what's worth taking away from today.

traditionalguy said...

The designated liberal babe doing her job on every news panel to interrupt all Trump aiding guests is stymied this AM. All they can grab to use as filabuster material is asking for a truce so as not to incite violence by admitting it exists as left wing tactics. Thy have their work cut out for them.

MayBee said...

Look at the current health care debate.

Obamacare is a mess. It's a mess. It's an expensive mess and it is increasingly falling apart. I get that Democrats don't feel like they need to participate in fixing it.
But news outlets have a choice. Are they going to give headlines and a platform to Senator Elizabeth Warren, who says people will DIE because of the republican changes? Or are they going to give a platform to someone with good ideas on how to solve the problem?

Rick said...

McAuliffe said: “I think we need to do more to protect all of our citizens. I have long advocated — this is not what today is about, but there are too many guns on the street. We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence.”

What a maroon.

DanTheMan said...

>>Is it just me or does the shooter look like Walter Sobchak?

He looks like a Russian to me. This story takes the Russian Connection story off the front page.

Coincidence?

I bet he's one of those 50 year sleeper agents Putin recruited back when he was in grammar school...

rhhardin said...

Violence is good for networks.

Brookzene said...

"Obamacare is a mess. It's a mess. It's an expensive mess and it is increasingly falling apart. I get that Democrats don't feel like they need to participate in fixing it.

They haven't been asked to participate in fixing it.

Sebastian said...

From Rape Melania to antifa to decapitation to theatrical assassination to actual murder in the park: the progression of American progressivism.

Of course, prog violence started before the election. Thug organizer Robert Creamer visited the O White House over 300 times.

traditionalguy said...

The President Pence Now meme is lurking. But will the Soros Progs dance in the streets when the deranged loner kills Trump? Stay tuned.

Browndog said...

If you Trumpers don't shut up about this, more of you might end up getting shot.

-Chuck Todd

exiledonmainstreet said...

donald said...
Do they actually play baseball? Some news readers interchange baseball and softball when discussing it.

Don't mean to be douchey, and can't tell from a quick search."

There has been an annual Congressional baseball game for years now. They play at the Nationals Park (the Nats, are,obviously, on a road trip).

I'm sure it's pretty crappy baseball, as most Congress critters are long in the tooth as far as baseball goes. You're not going to see amazing catches or 55 year old dudes sliding into 2nd base. (Ron Paul did hit a HR once - the only Congress person who ever did so.)

It's supposed to be a friendly bipartisan affair, where both sides forget about politics for a few hours and focus on not looking like complete asses on the field. It's a good thing because it keeps their minds of off spending more of our money for a little while.

Now even that has been poisoned.

Achilles said...

I would like to point out that Progressives almost never come to power without violence. Europe is a variant because the Europeans were allowed to live so long behind the shield of the US Army. They didn't have to defend themselves and deal with the reality of the world and were able to slowly slide into socialism. But now they are learning that Socialism is just Aristocracy in a different name. The serfs of Europe are being replaced.

All of the places that went down the progressive road not under US protection did so at the point of the progressive gun.

tcrosse said...

So we're supposed to bring a Kumbaya to a gunfight. That'll work.

Jason said...

Antifa has made a statement:

https://twitter.com/OfficialAntifa/status/874977210930802688

Biotrekker said...

Another violent and intolerant Leftist (the crazy guy in Portland was also a Bernie Bro).

Matthew Sablan said...

McAuliffe said: “I think we need to do more to protect all of our citizens. I have long advocated — this is not what today is about, but there are too many guns on the street. We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence.”

-- Changing the law in VA won't stop a crazed man from Illinois, if I have the story straight.

Achilles said...

Brookzene said...
"Obamacare is a mess. It's a mess. It's an expensive mess and it is increasingly falling apart. I get that Democrats don't feel like they need to participate in fixing it.

They haven't been asked to participate in fixing it.

Democrats have not been acting like decent human beings. Why would any sane person ask any of you for any kind of help?

Brookzene said...

"Violence is good for networks."

That's probably true. And there's that entire junk-food, info- and enertainment culture, mass television viewing, massive cultural tsunami wiping a lot of values away. Been a long time building by that measure.

Matthew Sablan said...

"They haven't been asked to participate in fixing it."

-- Trump has met with them on it; Ryan has held meetings on it.

You may be thinking about when Democrats locked Republicans out of chambers to keep them from helping.

Trumpit said...

Are we going to discuss the morality of assassinating political leaders? Who among you think it was wrong to try to kill Adolf Hitler? News reports from North Korea suggest that Trump has recently used the CIA to try to kill Kim Jung Un. Trump had said, referring to the possible assassination of Mr. Kim, "I've heard of worst things."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-assassinating-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-china-role/

That's ironic because a young British man tried to kill candidate Trump.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-man-8241971

Virtually Unknown said...

They haven't been asked to participate in fixing it.

Didn't a wise man once talk about ignoring the guy in the back seat who drove the car into the ditch in the first place?

Matthew Sablan said...

In fact, if I recall, Ivanka met with people and is pushing to keep a lot of the maternity benefits/pieces of the ACA.

Virtually Unknown said...

Who among you think it was wrong to try to kill Adolf Hitler?

This is why these people are so damn difficult to parody.

Brookzene said...

So we're supposed to bring a Kumbaya to a gunfight. That'll work.

Maybe everybody brings what they have to bring to their own personal gunfight at the OK Corral.

steve uhr said...

Happy days are here again. Obviously this single incident proves that democrats are more likely to be deranged than republicans.

Michael said...

Trumpit

Has laid out the rationale for all left wing violence. If Trump is Hitler (a given) then it is heroic to kill him, to stop history from unfolding. Slightly less heroic but heroic nonetheless to kill members of his party (Nazis, a given).

The sophomoric thinking here cannot be surpassed.

Virtually Unknown said...

"The only good fascist is a dead one." - Antifa today.

So I guess they are disowning the dead shooter then. Go figure. Blind squirrel, etc.

Tommy Duncan said...

Why has there been a noticeable uptick in violence from the left?

Is this their reaction to losing the House, Senate, Presidency and many state elections?

Does the uptick reflect the violent origins of socialism and communism?

Some say the Obama DOJ spent 8 years "looking the other way". Does the left now fell entitled to the use of violence? Why not be violent, when there are no negative consequences for you?

After largely getting their way for 8 years do progressives feel an entitlement slipping away? Is violence their reaction to not getting their way?

Are organizations (CPUSA, OFA, BLM...) inciting or encouraging the violence?

What's going on here?

Virtually Unknown said...

Obviously this single incident proves that democrats are more likely to be deranged than republicans.

There's one side that is bringing effigies of severed heads and bloody corpses to national attention and running little 15 second blurbs of Trump hatred several times an hour on most channels disguised as "promos" for late night TV.

Fen said...

"Is this a road to Damascus moment for Brooke?:

No it is not. The Left's playbook is a fake call for civility and unity in cases like this. They know they have overplayed their hand and only seek to avoid backlash.

The Left is back on its heals today, calling for a time out. Soon as they catch their breath they will resume spitting in your face, I guarantee it. I know this from 30 years experience.

They will ask you to give them an arn to help them up off the mat, and as they rise they will stick a shiv in your gut.

Give them no quarter, show them no mercy. This is the play they run every time their violence backfires.

MikeR said...

Go through his facebook page. Every anti-Trump or anti-Republican blog or website he frequented "contributed to the climate of hate" that led to this sad event. Each "must be held responsible".
I'm pretty sure that's what I'm supposed to say; wasn't that what they said by the Clifford shooting? - at least until it became clear that the shooter wasn't a Tea Partier?

MayBee said...

They haven't been asked to participate in fixing it.


Whatever do you mean? It's been a mess for a couple of years now. They need to be asked????? When Obama was president, did they need to be asked?

Even if you truly believe that, they don't need to go around saying "People are going to die because of Republicans!!!" like Warren is doing. That has nothing to do with being asked to participate. That has to do with stirring up fear and hatred.
And people who do as Warren is doing don't need to be given prominence by media outlets.
People with ideas to help fix it, or an understanding of the problems, need to be given prominence by media outlets.

Rene Saunce said...

"We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence.”

What?

exiledonmainstreet said...

Obviously this single incident proves that democrats are more likely to be deranged than republicans.

6/14/17, 12:21 PM

Oh, no, steve, not this "single incident." There have been dozens of incidents since Trump's election which prove you people are deranged.

Riots on Inauguration Day in DC. Riots in Portland, Oakland and Berkeley. Trump supporters attacked. Dozens of hate crime hoaxes. Media portrayals of Trump getting shot (rapper video) or beheaded. That's just a brief summary. I'm sure I've left incidents out.

This is just an escalation of what you people have been doing for months.

Brookzene said...

"When Obama was president, did they need to be asked?"

They had the votes and a Dem pres then.

Jim at said...

You want war, leftists?
Then you shall have war.
Because this is exactly how you get war.

Achilles said...

steve uhr said...
Happy days are here again. Obviously this single incident proves that democrats are more likely to be deranged than republicans.

No. It is the constant string of leftist violence that proves democrats are more likely to be deranged and violent. It is the leftists running around numerous universities attacking people they disagree with.

It is the fact that the left in the US is indistinguishable with Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, Germany, and so many other historical examples of leftists/socialists taking power.

The only difference is their victims are protected by the second amendment here. You people have made it clear what will happen to your political opponents if you gain power.

Rick said...

They had the votes and a Dem pres then.

Left wingers always excuse the left, without double standards they couldn't maintain their worldview.

Drago said...

Steve Uhr makes it a point to immediately forget all left wing violence so that the "next time" will become the new "that one time".

He has alot of help in that regard from the Democrat Praetorian Palace Guard Media.

Brookzene said...

"Left wingers always excuse the left, without double standards they couldn't maintain their worldview."

Don't know what you mean. What's being excused here?

MayBee said...

They had the votes and a Dem pres then.

So why didn't the Democrats fix it then? Why do they wait until Trump is president and they aren't being "asked to participate"?

Drago said...

Brookzene: "They had the votes and a Dem pres then."

And so they passed the most magnificent and wonderful bill evah!....that happens to have been collapsing all around us for several years which is why all those wonderful, terrific "fantabulous" provisions had to be delayed and delayed and delayed until a republican President hit the oval office.

At which point merely noticing that obamacare was failing nationally (as it was designed to do) is reason enough to call the republicans nazi's and Klansmen and murderers of women of children which itself inevitably leads to......today.

Brookzene said...

I don't know why fixes weren't done under Obama. We had like 49 votes to repeal it.

Jim at said...

"I agree with Chuck Todd."

Go fuck yourself.

madAsHell said...

The Facebook links are 404 error not found. I guess Facebook has a sandman.

I want to know how this guy knew they were going to be playing baseball at that field, and at that time. Somebody must have told him. I can't believe there's a social media account telling people where Republican lawmakers will be playing baseball.

Quaestor said...

That extremely Julius Caesar production (casting a woman as Antony is frankly moronic) will loose even more corporate sponsorship thanks to today's incident. Everyone of good will should demand its immediate closing.

Quaestor has noted a "Trump is Caesar" meme which cropped up nearly everywhere over the weekend, following on the heels of the notoriety of the aforesaid outdoor drama. Though not to belabor the point, the thrust of the meme is that Trump intends to destroy our republic, just as Caesar sought the blood of Rome's, which is utterly absurd to one who has studied the sources. Firstly, Trump is not that talented. Secondly, it was Sulla who put the rope around the Republic's neck, and it was Brutus and the Conspirators who pulled the trap.

Drago said...

Brookzene: "I don't know why fixes weren't done under Obama. We had like 49 votes to repeal it."

Because obama vetoed them.

Thanks for playing "School House Rock knows more about the government and legislative processes than me!".

It goes without saying you "won".

Rick said...

What's being excused here?

You excusing the Dems from responsibility of Obamacare, a program they completely designed and implemented.

Don't know what you mean.

Of course you don't. It's not like tactical ignorance is the first thing left wingers grasp at.

Virtually Unknown said...

Don't know what you mean. What's being excused here?

This talk that this is a "single, isolated incident." No mention of the cache of weapons, like brass knuckles and knives that were found on the ground after an "Antifa" gathering recently, for example. If that isn't "excusing," I don't know what it. And the "Antifa" are not disowning, but celebrating this guy.

n.n said...

Rene Saunce said...

"We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence.”

What?

Model estimates of catastrophic anthropogenic elective abortion. I think the real number for gun violence is around 10,000 annually, and scalpel/vacuum/scissor/etc. violence is around 1,000,000 annually.

MayBee said...

Here we go:

Markos Moulitsas retweeted Rand Paul saying this:
@RandPaul
.@Judgenap: Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical!

and added this comment:

Markos Moulitsas @markos 2h2 hours ago

Republicans are getting what they want

---------

But yeah, Alex Jones is so scary with his conspiracy theories he should be kept off tv.

exiledonmainstreet said...

HuffPo spiked an article calling for Trump's execution:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2017/06/14/

Brookzene said...

"At which point merely noticing that obamacare was failing nationally (as it was designed to do) is reason enough to call the republicans nazi's and Klansmen and murderers of women of children which itself inevitably leads to......today."

You can do a connect-the-dots anywhere or any two situations. That's not hard - we learn to do it as young 'uns. Talking reasonably and practically about these things is more difficult.

Drago said...

Brookzene: "You can do a connect-the-dots anywhere or any two situations. That's not hard - we learn to do it as young 'uns. Talking reasonably and practically about these things is more difficult"

How would you know?

Achilles said...

Brookzene said...
"When Obama was president, did they need to be asked?"

They had the votes and a Dem pres then.

When they had the votes they passed a bill in one of the most partisan events in history. After losing the election they made up a Russian Collusion story out of whole cloth to cover up their own rigging of the primary and fed it to their idiot base.

After whipping up their idiot base trying to destabilize a lawfully elected president they wring their hands when the idiot base starts turning violent? No. They aren't even wringing their hands.

Everything the democrat party is doing right now is in bad faith.

Drago said...

Brookzene wants us to take time out from the dems calling republicans treasonous traitorous murdering nazi klansmen to speak "reasonably and practically about these things".

I imagine some posters here might have some "reasonable and practical" responses to just such a request from a lefty.

Trumpit said...

"You want war, leftists?
Then you shall have war.
Because this is exactly how you get war."

We had a bloody Civil War from 1861-1865. Your side lost. One possible benefit from the baseball-game shooting of congressmen, it that it reminds redneck Republican gun-toting fools that liberals can also be violent gun nuts. Republican don't have a monopoly on guns or gun violence.

Quaestor said...

You people have made it clear what will happen to your political opponents if you gain power.

2020's most effective bumper sticker.

Hope most folks realize we have a toxic political culture and that attempting to exploit today for political gain will only poison us more... Todd aims his bullets at Republicans. Never Democrats. He's deathly afraid that people will interpret this shooting correctly.

PackerBronco said...

Well since the shooter has been killed, that's one less democrat voter.

Wait, what am I saying? He'll still be voting ...

Drago said...

Trumpit: "We had a bloody Civil War from 1861-1865. Your side lost."

Hmmmm, note to self: apparently the "New History" teaches the Democrats won the Civil War.

Interesting.

If the democrats won why did that democrat Boothe feel the need to assassinate a republican President, just as so many on the left are calling for now?

Brookzene said...

"I imagine some posters here might have some "reasonable and practical" responses to just such a request from a lefty."

We're done playing connect-the-dots. Time to play Burn the Witch.

MayBee said...

Talking reasonably and practically about these things is more difficult.

Exactly. And those who can do that and are willing to do that should be the ones gaining headlines and spots on Chuck Todd's show or on CNN.
But that's not what's happening. Instead, Elizabeth Warren is the brave truth teller for saying Republicans are just going to kill people with their attempts to fix Obamacare.
Media outlets should not encourage the outrageous But that's what they do.

Achilles said...

Brookzene said...
"At which point merely noticing that obamacare was failing nationally (as it was designed to do) is reason enough to call the republicans nazi's and Klansmen and murderers of women of children which itself inevitably leads to......today."

You can do a connect-the-dots anywhere or any two situations. That's not hard - we learn to do it as young 'uns. Talking reasonably and practically about these things is more difficult.

I have advice for intelligent people. Distance yourself from the democrat party. Distance yourself from ANTIFA. Distance yourselves from people on facebook that are supporting the "resistance." Distance yourself from ABCNBCCBSMSNBCCNNNYT. Distance yourself from Carlos Slim. Distance yourself from George Soros.

Hopefully we get something better next time.

Virtually Unknown said...

We had a bloody Civil War from 1861-1865. Your side lost

No, the Democrats lost. Republicans won that one. And if you are going to tell me that the parties have switched sides, let me ask you what today's Democrats would have done if anybody had tried to get them to march off to war in the South to help others.

Quaestor said...

The Famously Ignorant Fool Known as Trumpit wrote: We had a bloody Civil War from 1861-1865. Your side lost.

The Republicans won the Civil War, you risible imbecile.

Paddy O said...


An actor was inspired by his role in Julius Caesar to assassinate the Republican President in 1865.

Inflaming rhetoric leads to conflagrations.

Humperdink said...

Has any commie-pinko lefty posited that Trump was behind this shooting to deflect attention away from Russia, Russia, Russia.

Drago said...

Brookzene: "We're done playing connect-the-dots. Time to play Burn the Witch."

Says the dem just one day after the Dems put on an hours long combo Witch-Hunt Stalinist Show Trial with Jeff Sessions.

Sen Wyden: "“The question is: Mr. Comey said there were matters with respect to the recusal that were problematic and he couldn’t talk about them. What are they?”

Lavrenti Beria smiles.

For the left, history truly begins anew each day.

Unknown said...

Brookzene has not condemned this attack nor has he expressed a whit of sympathy for those injured by being shot by someone with his identical political beliefs.

So this is an explicit invitation for Brookzene to state his position: Was James T. Hodgkinson doing the right thing in trying to kill Republican congressmen and women?

Is violence always acceptable when done by the left?

Your posts today strongly suggest you fully endorse political violence against Republicans. You have an opportunity to correct that. I suspect you won't.

--Vance

Drago said...

Humperdink: "Has any commie-pinko lefty posited that Trump was behind this shooting to deflect attention away from Russia, Russia, Russia"

Brookzene's pals on the left are all over the "false flag" meme.

All. Over. It.

But hey, lets not politicize anything.

Jason said...

CAN YOU BELIEVE HE KILLED BUCKWHEAT?

Virtually Unknown said...

Elizabeth Warren is the brave truth teller for saying Republicans are just going to kill people with their attempts to fix Obamacare.

That meme is all over Twitter now. That the Republicans were murderers. But it is conservatives who have the "hate machine."

Fen said...

Uh Trumpit, Lincoln was a Republican you idiot.

As for guns, your guy took 50 shots within 100 meters and only hit twice. I was trained to shoot by the United States Marine Corps. Very easy to put 9 of 10 center mass at 500 meters, with iron sites.

You really don't want to play this game, son. You are over matched. We won't shoot first, but we will kill every last one of you motherfuckers. And we'll sleep well that night.

Go back to playing Call of Duty on your xbox, boy.

Achilles said...

Trumpit said...

We had a bloody Civil War from 1861-1865. Your side lost.

He has to be a moby. Nobody is this stupid. Democrats started the civil war to keep their slaves. This time is no different.

robother said...

No doubt the FBI will be questioning each of the members of the shooter's "Terminate the Republican Party" Facebook Group, after they wrap up the Russian/Trump collusion investigation in 2020. The FBI says its too early to ascribe a political motivation to the shootings.

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