February 19, 2014

"Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who has been eyeing a 2016 presidential run since his battles with labor unions made him a Republican star..."

"... is in the midst of dealing with the fallout of two criminal investigations at home that could complicate his move to the national stage."

So begins a big, conspicuous piece in The Washington Post, which doesn't say anything that's not familiar to those of us here in Wisconsin, including the spin of last paragraph:
If conservative groups succeed in undermining the investigation’s legitimacy, the result could ironically convert the probe from a possible Walker weakness into an unexpected strength, rallying conservatives around a governor perceived to be holding firm against liberal bullies.
By the way, 3 years ago today, in the Wisconsin protests, which included teachers who were calling in sick to absent themselves from the classroom, doctors stood on a street corner under a sign that read "I'm a doctor/Need a note?" They were real doctors, putting their names on notes that the protesters could use to excuse their absence from work:

At first I thought it was some sort of comic street theater, but it was, apparently, real doctors, defending what they were doing.... I asked if it was dishonest or unethical, and the answer was that everyone has symptoms, perhaps a migraine, diarrhea, or insomnia. I suggested "activitis."....

I spoke to another doctor... and I asked him whether he was worried, with all the cameras here, about his reputation. He said no. But he didn't use a political defense. He didn't say he supported the protesters and wanted to help them. He said people really do have symptoms, and it's a normal thing for doctors to believe patients who report symptoms and to write excuse notes for them. People call doctors all the time to get the required notes, and doctors trust the patients to report their symptoms properly. He ticked off the symptoms I've listed above.
(The doctors were later reprimanded.)

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traditionalguy said...

Too bad that Scott is still a suspected of several criminal investigations. Now the Repubs are stuck with Chris Christie who is not suspected of anything at all.

Bob Ellison said...

That WaPo article is so hopeful. It reminds me of Fitzmas.

Bob Ellison said...

What did Scott Walker do that is wrong? I'd like to know. But don't give me crap about some staffer at a computer in the Governor's office logging on to her Yahoo account and saying "please give to the campaign". That's leftist, Alinskyite BS.

Alexander said...

Well right off the bat, he's obviously guilty of 1st degree crimethink, unorthodoxy, and feelhurt, with countless additional infractions of speakbad, surrenderrefuse, and wrongside.

Pogo is Dead said...
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Pogo is Dead said...

Bob,
Walker used the IRS to target his opponent's donors and unfriendly organizations.

Oh wait, that was the Democrats.
So never mind.

Something about 'secret routers', I believe.

Bob Ellison said...

WaPo even noticed Kathleen Sebelius doing fund-raising for ObamaCare. A Cabinet Secretary soliciting money from people whose livelihoods depend on her decisions and regulations. A government official using her position of power to push her political agenda, which is mostly the uplifting of her own power.

So what did Scott Walker do?

JPS said...

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime….

He must have done something a determined opponent can dig up.

Bob Ellison said...

Boy, it's quiet around here. Where are all the lefties? Show me the puppy-blender! Walker must be Hitler somehow. Give me the goods!

MathMom said...

@Alexander, 8:24 am -

Great observation!

garage mahal said...

T minus 16 minutes.

SGT Ted said...

ho-hum another anti-GOP hack job from the WAPO. How ordinary.

Meanwhile, no curiosity about the IRS and Obamas ongoing violations of the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments of the Constitution, as well as usurping the legislature.

Curious George said...

These docs are the perfect example that the left have no boundaries. Doesn't matter if they are judges, or even doctors. No boundaries. The ends justify the means.

mishu said...

I don't know. Wouldn't the EPA coordinating with wacko environmental groups to file frivolous lawsuits in order to backdoor policy changes without *any* congressional debate be more serious than this?

Anglelyne said...

Bob Ellison: Boy, it's quiet around here. Where are all the lefties?

They're all over at that WaPo article muttering darkly about Walker and the Koch brothers.

garage mahal said...

Maybe I'll live-blog. What do you think? #WalkerDocs

Jay said...


He put northern Wisconsin's pristine environment up for sale, and waived regulations re. high capacity wells and other protectuions that help secure these resources for today and tomorrow's Wisconsonites


It sounds like a good plan to me.

Bob Ellison said...

garage mahal, I hope you do live-blog that. Can you provide a link to the original source? I assume it starts at 9:00 CST.

Jay said...

If conservative groups succeed in undermining the investigation’s legitimacy

Yeah, like WJC did with Whitewater and the Lewinsky affair, and Barack has done with Benghazi.

Alexander said...

I for one think it's highly privileged-inclusive, xenophobic, and (given the demographics of Wisconsin) very racist to declare that Wisconsin's resources belong to 'Wisconsinites', as if a group of people living in a specific geographic place have the right to expect that they and theirs have first-say to their own area and who can and cannot have access to it.

No doubt the liberals would be aghast at the idea that their side is so anti-global citizen. Come with me, friends of progress: Scott Walker, the TRUE man of the left!

SGT Ted said...

The WI Progs simply will not accept the results of Scott Walkers 2 election victories.

They are desperate to invalidate those elections by any means necessary. Hence the continuing, conveniently one sided, secret "investigations" of only member of the GOP.

garage mahal said...

Can you provide a link to the original source? I assume it starts at 9:00 CST.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is live blogging it. jsonline.com

Wisconsin State Journal madison.com

I'm following it all on twitter.

Biff said...

C'mon. Everyone knows the most important thing, to be trumpeted again and again, is not the actual guilt or innocence, but rather the seriousness of the allegations! It's Political Demonization 101.

chickenlittle said...

garage mahal said...
Maybe I'll live-blog. What do you think? #WalkerDocs

I heard a TV commercial last night (I don't actually watch the stuff) that some of America's best inventions started in a Garage. So get Crackin' -- there's a dragon to slay out there.

chickenlittle said...

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is live blogging it. jsonline.com

Comrade Rowen again?

Bob Ellison said...

I really would like to see the original source. Following on Twitter seems like observing goose poop in order to discern the migration patterns of coyotes.

Is there an actual video feed somewhere?

Illuninati said...

American lefties are similar to the Communist lefties. They use the courts to destroy good people who disagree with them all the time. So far they have not killed anyone after their political trials, but that may change.

1. Tom Delay who was convicted by a partisan prosecutor was recently exonerated.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/19/tom-delay-conviction-overturned-money-laundering/2837053/
2. Lewis Libby was the only one convicted for leaking Valerie Plame's name as a CIA operative. Problem is, he didn't leak her name and apparently didn't know who did leak it. The lefties were so eager to destroy their political opponents that they pursued perjury charges against him because his memory of when he first learned she was an undercover CIA agent of some sort differed from when the prosecutors said he had learned it. This tawdry affair included journalist Judith Miller who was jailed for months to get information to use against Libby. The real leaker, Richard Armitage, was known to the prosecutor but was never charged:

"Armitage was not indicted by the federal grand jury that investigated the disclosure of Plame's name to Novak and other journalists. He told CBS that the special counsel investigating the leak, Patrick Fitzgerald, "asked me not to discuss this, and I honored his request"."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.armitage/


Krumhorn said...

I'm missing the part where there is virtue in the state owning huge chunks of land that aren't state parks. Only a leftie enviro zealot from Rice Lake can muster the nerve to deny others the right to own and enjoy it. Why? Because it abuts your land and you thought you had the lake to yourself?

- Krumhorn

garage mahal said...

I really would like to see the original source.

You have to follow a news org that received the docs. Going to take awhile, there are tens of thousands of documents to upload.

Curious George said...

garage is furiously beating off to the news that a bunch of emails, that prosecutors have had for years, are going to indict Walker somehow.

Will Cate said...

Jeez... sling that mud. Ya know, it also could be damaging to Walker's 2016 hopes if he were struck and killed by a meteor. That's about the level of speculation presented in this silly WaPo story.

drywilly said...

based on the comment stream, looks like the left sleeps in

Bob Ellison said...

garage mahal, I can upload an entire HD 90-minute movie in a matter of minutes.

Are they working with modems at 300 baud?

Or are you referring to the time it takes to spin?

John (the other John) said...

“It was like a slow-moving glacier, picking up everything as it went,” said Michael Maistelman, a Democratic attorney who for a time represented Russell. “You turn over enough rocks, you’re going to find something.

Lots 'o people livin' in glass houses turning over rocks...

Paul Zrimsek said...

You military folk don't get paid to think

No indeedy! Those huge, immensely complicated military operations just plan themselves. Rather like the way those big taconite mines dig themselves, and the ore jumps into the lake boats under its own power, all without creating a single job!

Crimso said...

"If conservative groups succeed in undermining the investigation’s legitimacy, the result could ironically convert the probe from a possible Walker weakness into an unexpected strength"

Alternatively, if conservative groups successfully assassinate everyone who attempts to further the investigation, the result could ironically convert the probe from a possible Walker weakness into an unexpected strength.

If conservative groups successfully blackmail everyone who attempts to further the investigation, the result could ironically convert the probe from a possible Walker weakness into an unexpected strength.

If conservative groups successfully...

How about: if the investigations find no evidence of wrongdoing by Walker, the result could ironically convert the probe from a possible Walker weakness into an unexpected strength.

A normal, rational person would tend to go with the latter.

chickenlittle said...

Curious George said...
garage is furiously beating off to the news that a bunch of emails, that prosecutors have had for years, are going to indict Walker somehow.

Hordes of ilk will voluntarily read them and upload the "best." Who knows, maybe they'll find a heartfelt letter to family and friends -- the equivalent of a "Letter from God about Trig" which will amuse those afflicted with WDS.

Bob Ellison said...

It's 9:33 CST. Still looking for the bloody glove Walker owned.

Happy Warrior said...

@Alexander, 8:24 am - You made me laugh and made my day. Perfect!

Happy Warrior said...

@Alexander, 8:24 am - You made me laugh and made my day. Perfect!

RecChief said...

One thing about it, these emails shoudl be public. While I believe WAPO as much as I believe Garage, I don't see anything wrong with making them public.

But, if you believe that Walker should be held accountable for the actions of his staff, or that "he must have known," even if the emails show independent action by his staff, then the same standard must be applied to all politicians of any political party. Politicians should regularly have their emails sifted on the flimsiest of excuses as in (it appears to me) this case.

I kind of hope there is nothing there that implicates Walker. Not because of any love of Walker, but to see Garage's virtual tears when his hopes of finding malfeasance fall apart. Much like what happened after the UAW vote at the VW plant.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

T minus 16 minutes.

2/19/14, 8:44 AM


HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA

Looks like the router is a little slow there.

Brennan said...

The doctors that wrote those notes should have their practices investigated for fraud. Hello insurance actuaries. Time to go to work.

SGT Ted said...

You military folk don't get paid to think

What sort of dumbass declaration is that?

David said...

This article comes on just the day that the John Doe documents are going to be released.

The documents should be interesting.

However, I expect the left to be about as honest about these documents and their actual significance as they are about (say) the evil Koch brothers.

They want to ruin Walker and will do whatever it takes to do so. Anything to avoid a debate on the merits of your policies.

Bob Ellison said...

Wait! Scott Walker pleads guilty to fraud and conspiracy!

gerry said...

garage is furiously beating off

He has something to beat off?

Michael said...

Here is what is taking so long, as Gatage could have explained. The emails are being "unsealed." Do you know how long it takes to use a cyber opener to unseal a single email much less thousands of them? And then, of course, they have to be read. Plus the paper cuts.

T plus 50.

garage mahal said...

They want to ruin Walker and will do whatever it takes to do so

Why would that be surprising, seeing that is exactly what Walker has done/is doing?

Bob Ellison said...

Really quiet around here.

RecChief said...

@Bob Ellison

hahahahaha

that was funny

Crimso said...

It is serious. Current CNN headline: "Bloodshed and ultimatum"

Oh wait, that's the Ukraine.

RecChief said...

finally forced myself to read part of the column. Seemed to express wishful thinking that this would follow Walker, making it impossible for him to run.

garage mahal said...

Rindfleisch: How do you not blow a nut with all the lies Dems put out. It makes me wanna get Villa’s uncle mike to make mike tate disappear.

LOL!

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Bob Ellison said...

T plus 1:09 and counting. This mission doesn't look good from here.

alan markus said...

I predict a lot of "he say, she say" will come out of the emails. Just the stuff your typical voter is going to get real excited about - (NOT!). It better be good - not so sure if the anti-Walker crowd can afford to piss off the voters a 2nd time with a new round of inanity. I did read that Mike Tate is "salivating" today - not a pleasant image, but better than what has been suggested of Garage Mahal.

Gee, you think maybe putting out a bit of that Koch money would shake loose some incriminating Democratic staff email(s)that some disinterested 3rd party happened to be "cc'ed" on?

gadfly said...

". . . succeed in undermining the investigation’s legitimacy."

I get it! So the investigation is, without question, legitimate because liberals only conduct legitimate investigations. Conservatives, on the hand, lie, obfuscate, and employ all of Alinsky's Rules to control the progressive agenda for their own benefit.

My congratulations to Rosalind Helderman who successfully crushed conservative principles with just the six words above. /snark off

Drago said...

garage: "Why would that be surprising, seeing that is exactly what Walker has done/is doing."

To whom?

RecChief said...
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Curious George said...

"RecChief said...

I kind of hope there is nothing there that implicates Walker. Not because of any love of Walker, but to see Garage's virtual tears when his hopes of finding malfeasance fall apart."

These aren't new, the John Doe witch hunt folks have had them for years, so there is nothing that will implicate Walker.

As for your latter desire...good luck. There is sure to be some morsel that the left can spin to make Walker look bad, which is what this is all about, and garage will read it on a blog, and we will hear about it then.

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Seeing Red said...

So this might be a Palin redo?

Pogo is Dead said...

There will be damning evidence of Walker's micro-aggressions.

Beta Rube said...

I wonder if they'll finally provide details of the "Fast and FIBious" gun running scheme. Illinois is still upset.

Mark O said...

Can we agree not to talk about this until we can talk about Monica and Bill?

Illuninati said...

Beta Rube said...
"I wonder if they'll finally provide details of the "Fast and FIBious" gun running scheme. Illinois is still upset."

The left is too busy investigating some lane closures on a bridge in New Jersey to worry about government sponsored gun running across international borders which contributed to possibly hundreds of murders. We have to give the left credit, they do have their priorities right.

Matthew Sablan said...

Guilt by association is fine when the target is a popular Republican. Maybe he can say he learned about all this by reading the paper and be done with it?

Matthew Sablan said...

Remember when they live-blogged the Palin Papers? I wonder if we're in for a repeat.

SGT Ted said...

Garage is till digging through the horseshit, hoping to find a pony, I see.

Matthew Sablan said...

"Are they working with modems at 300 baud?"

-- The documents may all be hard copy [that is, they may have only been given print outs of the emails], and the time is the time to re-format them as electrons.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Don't worry. In a release this size there are bound to be a few ambiguous phrases that we can jump to conclusions about, Downing Street Memo-style.

Matthew Sablan said...

Are you saying Walker might have a nature trick to help him hide the decline?

Pogo is Dead said...

In the e-mails, Walker admits he killed JFK.

Pogo is Dead said...

Quite seriously, how are we to trust that anything the Democrats publish on the e-mails now will be factual?

They make crap up all the time. Why trust them in this instance to report honestly?

If the prosecutor found nothing worth indicting, anything they find now I already suspect to be fake.

Mitch H. said...

Just read the first words of every third sequential email:

"I"
"Buried"
"Paul"

B said...

Pogo is Dead said...In the e-mails, Walker admits he killed JFK.

McKinley too.

Pogo is Dead said...

My book The Walker Code proves he is one of the immortal Illuminati, and he killed Jesus, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and John Lennon.

Plus he is married to a woman and is a breeder.

And he doesn't always recycle.

Jay said...

Walker email #1!

"Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?"

Oh, sorry, that was Dr. Phil Jones, disgraced head of the CRU at the University of East Anglia

Mark said...

A lot of local journalists are really looking into this today, reading the evidence from the Doe trial. As are national outlets.

While there is obviously no smoking gun here, some of Walker's prior statements may no longer seem credible and there will be questions about specific items seen here.

It is going to take a while for any real analysis of what is here to be completed and published ... But I have little doubt there will be a number of journalists who take a crack at it. Whether they effect the election in November is yet to be seen.

Pogo is Dead said...

It's the underwear selfies that'll do Walker in.

And the ones with six foot stuffed animals are just gross.

Jay said...

Wait, we got something here!!!

"I've been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process."

Ah, damn. That was that AGW fraud Phil Jones again!

Henry said...

chickenlittle wrote Hordes of ilk...

Just that made me smile.

John (the other John) said...

"The emails show Walker deeply involved in crafting his message as a candidate, including holding daily conference calls to discuss the day's events and writing his own quotes for press releases."ABC News

alan markus said...

Oh no - this is big - Walker might have gay cooties or sometning.

Boyfriend of former Walker aide behind campaign website

For months and months, no one would say who exactly was behind ScottForGov.com, a prolific website that posted anonymous items supporting Scott Walker's gubernatorial bid in 2010.

Now we know.

Records released Wednesday show that it was Brian Pierick, the boyfriend of longtime Walker staffer TimothyD. Russell who was convicted in the John Doe investigation of Walker's county aides.

More important, Walker signed off on the name for the anonymous site.

Russell sent an email to Walker in August 2009 saying the author of the retiredoyle.blogspot.com website wanted to set up a new website using scottforgov.blogspot.com "unless you have any objection to the name."

"No prob," Walker responded.

Russell then wrote Pierick: "Approved."

John (the other John) said...

"The emails show Walker deeply involved in crafting his message as a candidate, including holding daily conference calls to discuss the day's events and writing his own quotes for press releases."

The nerve of a candidate deeply involved in trying to win an election. Thank God no other candidate, in the history of man-kind, would ever have done what this evil person did to the good people of Wisconsin!

David said...

garage mahal said...
They want to ruin Walker and will do whatever it takes to do so

Why would that be surprising, seeing that is exactly what Walker has done/is doing?


For once we agree Garage. It's true that Walker has been kicking left wing ass, making them look foolish and feel afraid. That alone is grounds for the politics of personal destruction, isn't it.

And yes I know that the economy is better in Minnesota.

But I also know why.

RecChief said...

the abc story also stated that members of Walker's staff regularly emailed his campaign staff. But they dont' say what about. Since Walker was exonerated, my guess is no bombshell revelations there.

garage mahal said...

That alone is grounds for the politics of personal destruction, isn't it.

Think of it as fighting Walker's Big Government that he uses like a sledgehammer.

I thought for sure Althouse would be rifling through these documents. Seems like it's right her alley? Hillary diaries, journolist emails. Maybe she's busy.

RecChief said...

@David- intersting thing, ecomomies of those two states. I saw a chart, and now I can't find it, that showed both states were in the top 10 in economic generation for the last year, or maybe 2 years. Wish I could find it, because after all of Garage's carping about how Minnesota is doing so much better than Wisconsin, that chart exploded his myth

EMD said...

Maybe she's busy.

There are dogs to be played with.

garage mahal said...

Wish I could find it, because after all of Garage's carping about how Minnesota is doing so much better than Wisconsin, that chart exploded his myth

That chart doesn't exist.

RecChief said...

ah garage. actually it does, challenge accepted

Alex said...

garage loves Big Government as long as it has a left slant.

Alex said...

Look like I've said for 4+ years now, Wisconsin deserves the most horrible fate possible if they get rid of Scott Walker this year.

garage mahal said...

Scott Walker is great, in one easy to read chart.

John (the other John) said...

Here's one example of WI (32) ranking higher than MN (41) in Economic Outlook. Comes from the American Legislative Exchange Council. Of course this analysis also makes the case that lower taxes and effective taxation principles drive economic performance. Most on the left will discount his immediately.

garage mahal said...

ALEC-Laffer?

Bwhahaha.

Big Mike said...

@The-Other-John, damn but you're prophetic!

RecChief said...

John (the other John) said...




Nah that's not it. I'll have to go through the history from yesterday to find it, if I can. Sorry for introducing a squirrel, let's back to the Walker emails.

Big Mike said...

@garage, the fact that you hate him so much is one heckofa reason to support Scott Walker. You're a destroyer, not a builder, and you deserve the greatest contempt one can muster.

alan markus said...

Here is a chart showing MN surpassing WI on jobs - has been playing catchup to WI - increase is attributed to the health care sector - in 2005 MN had 7,500 more health sector jobs than WI, in 2013 was over WI by 33,000. Overall, WI added 28,000 health jobs since 2005, MN added 53,000.

Healthy jobs checkup: Minnesota closing job gap with Wisconsin

MN must have a lot more old and sick people than WI.

alan markus said...

@ RecChief:

Sorry for introducing a squirrel, let's back to the Walker emails.

Well, so far there isn't much in the Walker emails to discuss right now.

John (the other John) said...

I called it, and garage didn't dissapoint...

ALEC-Laffer?

Bwhahaha.


Knee jerk dismissal, without corresponding support...

David said...

It's a stretch to say that Wisconsin is doing as well as Minnesota economically. Minnesota is better in unemployment rate, income per capita, banking strength. Minnesota has a considerably larger percentage of citizens with college degrees and its gross economic product exceeds that of Wisconsin, even though the Wisconsin population is slightly higher. Demographically (race, age, immigration, etc) the two states are very similar.

Where Garage is wrong is in his attribution of the reasons for these differences. The differences were pretty much the same under Doyle, and in fact the gap got worse under Doyle.

But you really can't pin this on either Doyle or Walker as the primary cause. It's been a long time coming, and the whole state is "responsible" for the issue.

The main difference is in economic base. Wisconsin's economic base is considerably more concentrated in manufacturing than is Minnesota's, about 16% to 11%. The manufacturing contributions of both economies have been declining, but Minnesota has done a better job of adding other types of economic activity. Minnesota is stronger in high tech and even its manufacturing base is more modern and technology oriented. It's stronger in finance and health care.

Part of this is just history. The traditional Wisconsin base was heavy industry, including a lot of automotive work. Minnesota was less so, so it had less declining industries to shed. Both states have some great companies, but think of the Minnesota list. 3M, Target, Medtronic, United Health, US Bancorp, Mosiac, St. Jude Medical, Fastenal, General Mills, Cargill (America's largest private company) and many more. Wisconsin can't quite match that.

The private sector matters, as conservatives are fond of pointing out, and over time the private sector in Minnesota has simply done better than that in Wisconsin. Since the demographic and tax structures of the states are and have been similar, I believe the biggest difference in performance long term has been private sector economic success.

This will also be the biggest factor in the future, and it's something government can influence but not control. In any event it's going to be a while before Wisconsin catches up, but Wisconsin certainly can.

Mike said...

Garage has it been 16 minutes yet? Where's the scoop?

Krumhorn said...

ALEC-Laffer?

Bwhahaha.


Lefties like Garage blissfully ignore the scientific literature, even that which is published by a fellow leftie. Christina Romer, Our Dear Leader's first chief economic adviser, and her husband (both Berkeley leftie economics professors), published a very compelling paper that demonstrated that for every dollar in tax increases, there is produced a three dollar drop in economic output. And, naturally, the reverse is also true that each dollar of a tax decrease is followed by a three dollar increase in GDP.

They found that the impact of taxes is primarily found in investment. Take away a rich guy's dollar and give it to some poor guy, you get a brief rise in the sale of beer and pork rinds. Let the rich guy keep it, and he'll invest in some risky start-up that creates new jobs and wealth.

It's a magnificent paper. You can find it here.

_ Krumhorn

Beldar said...

From the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel story that Prof. Althouse's earlier post on the doctors (linked above) links:

"The Medical Examining Board reached stipulations with seven doctors Wednesday in which they were formally reprimanded for failing to make adequate records on the patients they saw during the protests. The stipulations also required the doctors to pay $225 to $350 each for costs and take four hours of continuing education courses within 90 days on medical record keeping."

So these doctors were indeed reprimanded -- but for poor record-keeping, not for perverting their medical licenses through the knowing and deliberate telling of professionally-approved lies in writing, lies whose primary purpose was political (but whose effect also included defrauding the employers who relied upon them).

Again from the story:

"Attorneys for the doctors stressed that there was no finding they issued any fake sick notes or engaged in fraudulent behavior. They said the doctors assessed protesters before providing any notes and did not issue them to everyone who sought them."

But note that the seven doctors who were actually reprimanded effectively cut a deal by entering into factual stipulations, so there was no trial at which there would have been an opportunity for anyone to contest their claims that, for example, they "did not issue [notes] to everyone who sought them."

Nor, apparently, were the state authorities well prepared to prove their cases absent such stipulations: The two who didn't stipulate received "administrative warnings, a lesser form of discipline," meaning they did better than the settling docs by fighting. (We shouldn't presume that all of these docs were exactly similarly situationed; the ones who didn't stipulate, and who got lighter punishment, may indeed have been less guilty.)

These nine were all private-practice docs. What's even more shameful, though, IMHO, is the result with respect to a much larger group of docs -- those whose paychecks come from the State of Wisconsin, and whose lies were under authority of their official positions as public employees:

"Separately, the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health has reviewed cases in which its physicians were alleged to have participated in handing out fake sick notes.

"The school reviewed 22 cases and found some of the doctors had not participated, said Lisa Brunette, a spokeswoman for the school. For others, their participation varied widely, and they were given punishments that ranged from disciplinary letters to a loss of pay and loss of leadership position, Brunette said.

"Brunette declined to say how many were disciplined under work rules or to release their names because one of the doctors has appealed the matter. Once that appeal is resolved, the names and discipline records can be released, she said."

Notice the spectacular double-standard here? The docs who work for the public got to keep not only their identities, but the extent of their misdeeds and their punishment, completely private!

If only the Tsar knew ....

Inga said...

Archer says to Rindfleisch:

"I use this private account quite a bit to communicate with SKW and Nardelli."

Didn't Walker deny knowing about any of this all along?

garage mahal said...

Garage has it been 16 minutes yet? Where's the scoop?

Walker has said all along he nothing of the email system. In the emails we can see that wasn't true.

Inga said...

LOL, garage, bread and butter.

Drago said...

RecChief: "Wish I could find it, because after all of Garage's carping about how Minnesota is doing so much better than Wisconsin, that chart exploded his myth."

Garage is our 2000's version of the 1970's analysts who kept telling us the Soviets were approaching economic parity with us and we had just better get used to it.

They believed it because they wanted to believe it.

They wanted to believe it even more after Reagan was elected.

You know, Reagan. The guy that dared to call a regime that murdered 10's of millions of it's own citizens "recently".

The left hated Reagan.

And the garagies hate Walker.

Why?

Because leftism fails and they must lodge 489 kajillion accusations to keep you from noticing that leftism fails.

The only question is does garage get heart palpatations from excitement over Maduro's actions in Venezuela.

We ask because we care.

Drago said...

Inga: "Inga said...
LOL, garage, bread and butter."

Close Inga.

It's actually "Peace, Land and Bread".

Good times, good times.

Drago said...

krumhorn: "Christina Romer, Our Dear Leader's first chief economic adviser, and her husband (both Berkeley leftie economics professors), published a very compelling paper that demonstrated that for every dollar in tax increases, there is produced a three dollar drop in economic output. And, naturally, the reverse is also true that each dollar of a tax decrease is followed by a three dollar increase in GDP."

If the lefties were even remotely correct, then the further left the administration (in terms of taxation), the more powerful the nation.

If the lefties were even remotely correct, the Soviet Union would still be staring us in the face.

As opposed to just Putin's "KGB'ish" smiling visage.

garage mahal said...

Don't ever change Drago. Don't ever change.

Drago said...

garage: "Walker has said all along he nothing of the email system."

I did not have electronic relations with that system.

Drago said...

garage: "Don't ever change Drago. Don't ever change."

On the contrary, I'm constantly adapting.

That's one of the differences between us I suppose.

Mark said...

It will be interesting to see what legs this story has.

It would appear the lead story coming out currently is about Walker's knowledge of the email system, as all the journo's have been reporting his line about how he didn't know until now.

In depth reporting these days seems to require some slight to the reporter, some lie that pisses them off. It looks like some of the state press have come to that point.

Will said...

Alexander, your 8:24am comment is priceless:


"Well right off the bat, he's obviously guilty of 1st degree crimethink, unorthodoxy, and feelhurt, with countless additional infractions of speakbad, surrenderrefuse, and wrongside."



I laughed!! If you make T-Shirts I will buy one!!

President-Mom-Jeans said...

It is good that Garage and Inga are chowing down on this nothingburger.

They both certainly need less calories in their diets.

Drago said...

"They both certainly need less calories in their diets"

Considering what their marxist pal is doing in Venezuela to the opposition leaders and people who have had the poor taste to notice the deprivation that leftists bring, Inga and garage probably need just a few more calories in order to keep up the excitement level.

Pogo is Dead said...

Again, how do we know that what the left prints about the e-mails is true?

Pogo is Dead said...

Shit, even CBS faked correspondence, so why not the rest of them?

Michael said...

If I get an email from someone I am not sure if that missive comes from a server or from the cloud. I look to see who the email is from and my several systems do not show me the email address of the sender, just their names. I could be sending emails back and forth all day long and never know that they are sending me emails from a super secret server with addresses that read @evilrepublican.org. I would not know anything about the system. What am I missing here?

garage mahal said...

Again, how do we know that what the left prints about the e-mails is true?

That's a great questioned to ask Walker. "Are those your emails to the network you said you weren't aware of?"

Alex said...

challenge to garage/Inga - name me a single Scott Walker/GOP policy that killed 10s of 1000s of private sector jobs in Wisconsin. Provide proof of direct causality.

Alex said...

One thing Wisconsin could use is a hi-tech sector. Oops, not happening ever.

Pogo is Dead said...

Garage read Micahel, there's your answer.

So answer my question.

garage mahal said...

LOL

Pogo is Dead said...

I figured as much.

Drago said...

LOL

garage will be n-tupling down on "Emails!!"

It's gonna be fun.

Drago said...

Michael: "What am I missing here?"

Nothing.

But that doesn't mean the left won't be up for the challenge of making stuff up.

Cookie is still wandering around telling us that Reagan actively conspired with the Iranian mullahs to keep Americans hostage until he could be elected.

There is no limit to the bat-crazy stuff the left is capable of.

Matthew Sablan said...

Is Walker tech savvy? I couldn't tell you what servers any of my emails are on -- be they personal or work. It's entirely possible Walker just didn't know the technical specifications of what was going on.

But, hey, he's read it in the newspaper now.

Drago said...

Mathew: "Is Walker tech savvy? I couldn't tell you what servers any of my emails are on -- be they personal or work. It's entirely possible Walker just didn't know the technical specifications of what was going on."

Of course Walker doesn't know with servers or networks his emails travel over!

That's the entire point!

It's the only angle they've got and they are going to run with it.

Think of it as garage's "sullivan: Palin didn't really have a baby" gambit.

Cliff said...

I'm more concerned about the recent news that the states unemployment rate is increasing. Walker supporters have been claiming he primed the state for job increases, but Walker seems to actually be terrible for job creation. Union busting is only a good thing if it leads to jobs. If it's simply to bust unions just for the sake of busting unions, well that's hardly conservative.

garage mahal said...

"I use this private account quite a bit to communicate with SKW and Nardelli. You should be sure you check it throughout the day."

So the theory is Walker had no idea it was a non-work email he was replying to, and had no idea the router was in a amoire in his office? Then why did he tell his staff to deep six the email system after a story broke that Wink was campaigning on county time? That's weapons grade denial. But not surprising.

Matthew Sablan said...

"I'm more concerned about the recent news that the states unemployment rate is increasing"

-- Why is the rate increasing [are more people becoming unemployed, are more people leaving the uncounted unemployed by looking for work again, is there a spike in population from people moving in, is it a transition season, like after Christmas/summer that shakes things up?]

We need more than just a data point to really say anything.

Drago said...

Cliff: "If it's simply to bust unions just for the sake of busting unions, well that's hardly conservative."

Cliff is very very very very concerned that reducing the public sector union stranglehold is not very conservative.

tsk tsk.

Thank you Cliff.

For your heartfelt "concern".

Matthew Sablan said...

Garage: I don't have all of the emails or information, but nothing criminal happened -- or they'd have nailed him with it.

What wrong doing -- exactly -- are you accusing Walker of?

Lay out for me something that we can actually talk about. Not just insinuations about people we don't like.

Drago said...

Mathew: "We need more than just a data point to really say anything."

Cliff is a very very very very concerned "republican" who knows that only by increasing the public sector and increasing the power of public sector unions do you create additional wealth.

He is very very concerned that we don't understand that.

As a conservative.

And as a republican.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Now that the lefties have emails to sift through, that the prosecutors weren't able to pin anything on Walker with, the indictment will be coming out any day now.

Because secret routers.

Alex said...

Cliff - what is conservative about being pro-union? Conservatives by definition are union-busters going back to Ronald Reagan.

Matthew Sablan said...

Right now, my understanding, is that you think that Walker knew more than he let on because he wrote some emails that appear on the server.

Do you ALSO agree that Obama knows more about Benghazi, the IRS scandal, and the F&F than he let on? I'm trying to see how consistent we have to be.

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garage mahal said...

Do you ALSO agree that Obama knows more about Benghazi, the IRS scandal, and the F&F than he let on? I

Let's see the emails. You might have something.

Classic squirrel there too. I was wondering when Benghazi would appear.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...
ALEC-Laffer?

Bwhahaha.


If anyone thinks you're going to get any more in the intellectual candle-watt-power department than what is above from this loon, you're mistaken.

mrs. e said...

“Notice the spectacular double-standard here? The docs who work for the public got to keep not only their identities, but the extent of their misdeeds and their punishment, completely private!"

Well, Beldar, not so much...

Matthew Sablan said...

Ok, so what do the emails prove? That Walker sent emails so he must know about a thing, that once he learned about, he tried to stop -- so that proves he knew about the thing before he was told about the thing?

Jay said...

Cliff said...
. Union busting is only a good thing if it leads to jobs. If it's simply to bust unions just for the sake of busting unions, well that's hardly conservative


Concern troll:

1. There was no "union busting" in Wisconsin

2. The thing you're calling "union busting" was a budget bill.

3. Per # 2, it had everything to do with the state finances.

Thanks, bye!

Matthew Sablan said...

What is meant by "Walker knew nothing of the email system?" That can mean what Garage is implying it means [he didn't know how to send an email/use the system], what it seems he meant [he did not know the technical specifications], or any number of things.

Can we define things more clearly, so we know what charge -- exactly -- needs to be defended/advanced?

garage mahal said...

Ok, so what do the emails prove?

That he's been lying about the entire time for starters.

Alex said...

Jay - it doesn't matter that it wasn't "union-busting" technically speaking. It caused pain to unions, and therefore it's evil.

Alex said...

garage - do only Republicans lie?

Matthew Sablan said...

"That he's been lying about the entire time for starters. "

-- About WHAT? What quote -- exactly? All I've seen is that you claim he stated he knew nothing about the system -- up to and including that you could send an email using it. But... that's ridiculous. Eight-year-olds know you can email people. What quote -- exactly -- are you claiming is a lie?

Pogo is Dead said...

Forget it, Matt, it's Leftytown.

eric said...

Matthew,

I think you're falling into a classic lefty trap. For some reason, we humans always want to make reasonable, logical, arguments with one another to demonstrate our thinking process and prove our position.

But in my experience, the left doesn't think this way.

For example, the right will generalize and say, "Getting rid of the minimum wage is a good thing. The reason is, you can now have people in their first jobs learning how to do very difficult things, like plumbing, electrical, home building, without having to pay someone for the experience. Instead, they can learn for free and gain experience as their reward."

Then the left will answer that charge with, "See Molly Smith here? Molly is starving to death. She is starving to death because Walmart only pays her $8.00 an hour and doesn't give Molly Smith a fair wage. Nor do they offer her health insurance. Therefore, we need to change the entire country and apply a federal law because, Molly Smith."

Don't expect Garage to engage you. The answer to any of your questions is, "Walker bad."

Chef Mojo said...

"That he's been lying about the entire time for starters. "

-- About WHAT? What quote -- exactly?


^^THIS!

There's no there, there.

If there was, Walker would have been indicted and tried very swiftly. The people who have the most to gain from Walker going down are the ones who have held this information for how many years now? And Walker is still, ah, Scott-free?

This is what I don't get about this whole thing. Walker's enemies have been driving this, and driving it hard, and there's nothing of legal consequence. It's amazing.

Scott Walker lied about something? Really? Well, knock me over with a feather and grab my smelling salts, honey!

garage mahal said...

Theory 1: Walker knew nothing of router in amoire of his office, knew nothing about email system he routinely emailed to.

Theory 2: Emails were forged by Democrats.

Theory 3: He's a Republican and I could care less.

And Benghazi.

Matthew Sablan said...

... Garage, I'm the only one even giving you a chance. What did he lie about? What quote -- what remarks? What specific charge?

EMD said...

So, is it simply using official office channels to discuss or coordinate campaign goings-ons?

Is that the crime?

Cliff said...

Ouch. Actually the more I read the more it looks like Walker is guilty of illegal campaign coordination and using taxpayer resources and time to campaign. That upsets me as it is both illegal and a corrupt use of tax dollars. And that is not conservative, or at least it wasn't until Althouse commentors decided that abuse of taxpayer funds and election corruption is totally cool if Walker does it.

Chef Mojo said...

And thankfully, because I follow Althouse on the strange and weird phenomenon that is 'Sconsin politics, I could read the WaPo article - which is my regional go-to big-time-big-deal fish wrap - and see that that it was utter crap.

Key words in the article that tell you it's going to mean pretty much nothing:

"Fallout"
"That investigation could prove damaging if it hobbles"
"Walker was copied on a handful of e-mails"

Sheesh. Really?

And then there's this:

"Even in the face of profound pressure from prosecutors, Walker’s aides did not turn on him — and there is no sign that any are likely to provide new attention-grabbing information in the future.

“I am certain that Kelly Rindfleisch isn’t going to be that person,” said Franklyn Gimbel, Rindfleisch’s attorney. “Under any circumstance, for any reason. Because she doesn’t believe he did anything.”"

Now, that's pretty interesting. Imagine. People so convinced of Walker's innocence that they'll undergo that sort of pressure and prosecution, rather than turn around and backstab Walker for convenience. I'd say that speaks a lot to how people view Walker's character.

Pogo is Dead said...

Secret routers secret routers secret routers!!1!

EMD said...

Thank you, Cliff, for keeping us honest.

Matthew Sablan said...

What level of coordination using government computers does it take to break the law? Sending a few emails "Talk to so-and-so," is probably not wise, but it certainly doesn't break what we see stand at the national level routinely [for both parties].

Matthew Sablan said...

[On the other hand -- if it was as obvious that Walker illegally campaigned, such that we're all seeing it -- wouldn't the prosecutors have seen it? I'm just not buying such a blatant smoking gun was missed.]

Chef Mojo said...

Uh, Cliff?

You really need to work on your concern troll script. Or get the guys who email it to you to work on it?

It's the Dick and Jane reader of concern troll scripts. Pretty obvious and transparent. Try to kick it up with a little imagination and nuance.

The whole, "I'm shocked!" schtick coupled with "It's not a conservative or liberal thing!" is a dead giveaway.

Back to the drawing board, Cliff.

erikarndt said...

Using taxpayer funded offices on the taxpayer time and dime is illegal. If he knew abou it he is guilty of a crime. It appears he knew aout it and may actually have been directing it.

Matthew Sablan said...

[On the third hand -- they could just be incompetent, and Walker DID do brazen and obviously illegal things in their plain view, and they just missed it.]

garage mahal said...

You're such a good little foot soldier, Pogo. Anything for The Party. Do you bark like a seal on command?

Mike said...

Theory 1: Walker knew nothing of router in armoire of his office, knew nothing about email system he routinely emailed to, because all of the rest of us are totally aware of each and every server our packets are routed through and any denial of knowledge of the inner workings of the interwebs is just Republican lies.

Theory 2: Emails were invented as an "issue" and flailed during the Doe hysteria by Democrats.

Theory 3: He's a Republican and I could care less whether any of my inane writing makes sense to you idiots. Routers! Routers I say! Have you EVER sent any email without using a visible and clearly labelled ILLEGAL ROUTER?

FIFY Garage. And I choose number 2. Thanks!

Michael said...

I suspected that some of the lefty posters here were not the brightest bulbs in the lamp but I am gobsmacked that they seem to think that senders of emails are supposed to know the whereabouts of the server that is hosting the person to whom they are replying. Or that people see that an email comes from Garage Mahal and are expected to discover if it comes from his AOL account or his dumbshit.com account or his asshole.org account. Or that all of those accounts pass though his double secret "router" that was in his office. Do they know the fucking difference between a router and a server?

erikarndt said...

They may not have charged him because they were trying to gather more evidence, the investigation wasn't/isn't nearly over.

Mike said...

Cliff you might want to turn your gaze toward the IRS and repeat that little exercise of pondering "political" activities versus doing good old Public Servant type work. Yeah, that could use your eagle eye for detail.

Michael said...

Chef Mojo: I think that "Cliff" must be posting through a secret "router" with a dot ignore address.

Cliff said...

What I don't understand is why people here are so quick to defend his probable illegal actions. I once took it on faith that he was turning the state around, but the facts show he has been terrible for job creation and economic growth in the state. Why is he a star when his record is so awful?

Edit: I'm a conservative, you guys mot so much.

garage mahal said...

. People so convinced of Walker's innocence that they'll undergo that sort of pressure and prosecution, rather than turn around and backstab Walker for convenience.

Walker's pals got her jobs to pay for her defense. Christie forgot to do that. Rindfleisch has been though this all before, she got caught doing the same thing in an earlier caucus scandal. She knows the drill, and that's why she was hired in the first place. Probably what these emails reveal more than anything what cheap, reprobate know-nothings Walker surrounds himself with.

EMD said...

What I don't understand is why people here are so quick to defend his probable illegal actions

Probably because the burden of proof in a normal criminal case has not been met.

Pogo is Dead said...

"using taxpayer resources and time to campaign. That upsets me as it is both illegal and a corrupt use of tax dollars."

Get back to me when the outrage against Sebelius and Holder's offenses reaches even 1/50th the level you profess here.

Fucking bullshit.

Pogo is Dead said...
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Pogo is Dead said...

Cliff and garage, if what you say is true, how did it happen that prosecutors whose goddamned job was to find illegality could not, even though their lefty reputation was at stake, and their lifelong desire was to become famous for taking Walker down?

Even then, nothing.
Why?
Because bullshit, that's why.

Alex said...

There are thousands of corrupt Democrat officials, but garage is up in arms about Walker. Logic dictates it's about ideology and not corruption. Logically, garage has no problem with corrupt Democrat politicians who cave into the unions.

Mike said...

Goddamnit Pogo-is-dead you've gone and killed the thread.

Chef Mojo said...

Using taxpayer funded offices on the taxpayer time and dime is illegal. If he knew abou it he is guilty of a crime. It appears he knew aout it and may actually have been directing it.

Hey, Sparky? Haven't you been paying attention?

Prosecutors have been after Walker since he was elected. Don't you think they'd have charged him by now if he had committed a crime? They've been itching to nail this guy so bad they can taste it!

Why, after all this time, if he has allegedly committed these heinous crimes, has Scott Walker not been charged?

Lefties seem entirely incapable of comprehending the concept of Occam's Razor. There it is. Staring them in the face, and they're all going tilt-head like one of the Meadehouse doggehs.

Chef Mojo said...

They may not have charged him because they were trying to gather more evidence, the investigation wasn't/isn't nearly over.

What utter crap. Everything those prosecutors could get, they got a long, long time ago. Everything. And these guys are out to get Walker in the most serious way. They want him bad. It's like Joe Lefors trailing Butch and Sundance, but without a crime to charge Walker with. They're just riding along in their straw boaters looking serious for no damn reason at all. Talk about abuse of the public purse.

The investigation is a political sham. If Walker had committed a crime, they would have charged him. They hate Walker. They would do anything skirting the law to nail him.

Why is this so hard for lefties to understand?

Mike said...


WaPo: Sebelius Seeks Donations from Healthcare Execs


CA Medline: Sebelius Seeking Private Donations (from companies affected by her rules)

Reuters: Obama's Health Secretary Seeks Donations from Private Companies for HC Law

Bloomberg: Sebelius Asks for Trouble in Seeking Donations

Move along. Nothing to see here because she didn't use secret routers to seek donations from companies that are subject to the whims of the new law, especially the parts that say, "The secretary shall declare..."

Michael said...

Cliff: What I don't understand is how you can't point to a single incriminating actual email that incriminates Walker and yet you leap to call him guilty. Gosh, most conservatives believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty and I am darn sorry to see that you don't think that way. Also, most conservatives have been worried that these emails that have been in the hands of prosecutors for years would lead to an indictment by the double secret grand jury that has been investigating non-stop. No indictments were forthcoming and so most conservatives breathed a sigh of relief. I am sorry that you think that the emails that have been "unsealed" suddenly provide evidence of guilt to you and yet to no other conservative. And so quickly. I am concerned that you might be pulling our legs on this blog and that you do not really believe what you say you believe. On the other hand you write very much like someone who has not had a particularly lengthy or decent education and I suppose you can be forgiven for both your bad writing and your transparent motive.

garage mahal said...

Prosecutors have been after Walker since he was elected. Don't you think they'd have charged him by now if he had committed a crime? They've been itching to nail this guy so bad they can taste it!

Since before he was elected. His campaign office was raided the night before he was elected governor.

Why they didn't charge Walker along with his aides who were charged?

Two theories: 1. $750,000 in white collar criminal defense attorneys. 2. Saving it for John Doe II.

Chef Mojo said...

Meanwhile, back in GarageLand...

Hey, garage!

How 'bout an email update? Sure could use some of that 'Sconsin lefty comedic relief.

Chef Mojo said...

Probably what these emails reveal more than anything what cheap, reprobate know-nothings Walker surrounds himself with.

Well, for a bunch of cheap, reprobate know-nothings, they've been pretty fucking effective at running circles around everything the Wisconsin legal system can throw at them.

What's going to be funny is when Rindfleisch wins on appeal. What's the over/under there on that?

Curious George said...

All garage will have to show for all this is a nasty mess in a sock.

Michael said...

Garage: So in Wisconsin there is a pass on criminal activity if you hire really expensive lawyers? And prosecutors let criminals go and "tail" them to get bigger charges later? So we could conceivably be lucky enough to see John Doe III or IV, perhaps waiting for a rape or murder down the line? Makes sense.

Matt said...

First, I am speaking on behalf of just me: a libertarian who more than ten years ago vowed to never vote for another Democrat.

Did President Obama direct IRS officials to target the Tea Party groups? I have no idea and there is no evidence he did; therefore, I believe Obama did not do it. At worst, there was his joking about having the IRS target his foes. Does that make him guilty? Only of telling jokes in poor taste for a man in his position.

You see, despite the fact I think President Obama is a terrible President, I will not attribute criminal behavior to him where no evidence exists. I think if asked, “Did President Obama direct the IRS to target Tea Party groups?” most of the Walker defenders here would answer, “I don’t know but the issue has also not been thoroughly investigated.”

Where garage and cliff look foolish and like partisan hacks is their willingness to convict Governor Walker despite a lack of evidence. The point has been made repeatedly: the investigators had access to the necessary “evidence” and “witnesses” yet, after years of investigating, they have no evidence of criminal behavior with which to charge Governor Walker. It would be wise and honest for Walker critics to drop it, otherwise, you end up looking as foolish as the Birthers.

garage mahal said...

All garage will have to show for all this is a nasty mess in a sock

Again dude, Walker is the one that surrounds himself with felons, people who steal from veterans's widows, and people who entice children. Which makes sense why you're a Walker Cultist.

John (the other John) said...

Cliff said...
What I don't understand is why people here are so quick to defend his probable illegal actions. I once took it on faith that he was turning the state around, but the facts show he has been terrible for job creation and economic growth in the state. Why is he a star when his record is so awful?

Edit: I'm a conservative, you guys mot so much.

------------------------
He's not creating as many jobs as he said he would so he must be guilty of some campaign felony.

Yeah. That makes perfect sense!

3 + Cat = Purple dishwasher

Chef Mojo said...

Two theories: 1. $750,000 in white collar criminal defense attorneys.

$750,000? Cheapskates. Besides, you're admitting that the prosecution has nothing. If they won't charge based on who opposes them in the courtroom, then that doesn't speak well for their case, does it? Another thing: when is criminal prosecution supposed to be dependent on the capabilities or cost of the defense? Either Walker committed a crime or he didn't.


2. Saving it for John Doe II.

Again, the prosecutors have had whatever they're going to get for a long time now. John Doe 2 is a political sham to give the prosecutors cover. If it keeps getting drawn out, you'll know the veracity of this theory: The longer they wait and draw this out with no charges when the investigation was obviously done a long time ago, the more politically transparent the whole process is.

These guys want Walker bad. Why haven't they nailed him? Either they can get an indictment or they can't.

Prediction: John Doe 2 gets quietly dropped and John Doe 3 gets noisily announced.

Cliff said...

Well, you have to ignore the actual emails to come to that conclusion Matt. The emails show coordination during the workday, and extensive actions to hide that they were doing this. Walker is even on record now (by way of released email) directing his staff to continue working but using the secret servers. Whether he is ever prosecuted is one thing, but it absolutely does prove that he was directing his staff to work on his campaign during work hours. I suppose if you think such waste and abuse of tax dollars is no biggy, then I guess it looks like no biggy. Unlike many Althousers, I disapprove of waste and fraud.

Cliff said...

Oh, and also he has been terrible at job creation. Separate issue of course, but what's the attraction to a guy who abused taxpayer dollars, cheated in college, and has most the absolute worst job creation record of any current governor? How does that make him a republican star?

Pogo is Dead said...

"Oh, and also he has been terrible at job creation. Separate issue of course, but what's the attraction to a guy who abused taxpayer dollars, cheated in college, and has most the absolute worst job creation record of any current..."

And that description varies from Obama how exactly?

garage mahal said...

$750,000? Cheapskates. Besides, you're admitting that the prosecution has nothing.

Um, Walker paid 750k because he thought prosecutors had nothing? What planet are you on right now?

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