I was interested in that quote — "I did everything wrong 5 times" — not because I'm following the Brewers, though I am, but because — just 5 days ago — I was blogging about the positive side of wrongness.Pat Murphy did not get a real big league managing job until he was 65 years old He has won Manager of the Year twice since Here is his whole story He never played a day in the major leagues himself. He was a catcher who signed with the San Francisco Giants and spent four years in the minors without ever getting called up He was the head coach at Arizona State for fifteen seasons. He won 629 games there and took them to the College World Series four times. Before that he was at Notre Dame and won 318 more Then it ended. He resigned in the middle of an NCAA investigation, after being told to resign or be fired The NCAA found him innocent of the violations. What they actually reprimanded him for was his attitude toward their investigators. They called it cavalier Here is how he describes that stretch "I was a college coach forever, and then I had this huge injustice happen, and I thought, Why me?" And then this, about himself "My ego was involved a great deal more than it should have been." So at 51 years old he went to the minor leagues Eugene, Oregon. Tucson. El Paso. Nearly five years riding buses in the low minors after fifteen years running one of the best programs in the country San Diego gave him the interim job and he went 42 and 54 in 96 games. They did not keep him "I did everything wrong five times." So he took a job as somebody's bench coach in Milwaukee. He did that for eight years Then Craig Counsell left for Chicago, and the Brewers handed it to the 65 year old Here is what happened next. Manager of the Year. Then Manager of the Year again. 97 wins last season, 103 this one And a sweep of a Los Angeles roster built to never lose a series like this He was not some nobody they found in a parking lot. He was one of the best college coaches alive before any of this, and the Brewers handed him a roster Counsell had already built. But he was 51 when he had to start over in the low minors, and 65 before anybody gave him a team of his own for a full season. Christian Yelich said it takes a certain kind of player to play for him. It took a certain kind of man to still be waiting at 65 (Via @thesportsontap)
— Punchoutpitch (@Punchoutpitch) October 18, 2026
October 19, 2026
"I did everything wrong 5 times."
After Anne Carson won the Nobel Prize, I started reading her book "Wrong Norma," and I wrote about her answer to the question, "Tell me about the 'wrongness' in the title of Wrong Norma." She said that in academia you always feel "that you’re wrong or on the verge of being wrong and you have to worry about that, because everything is so judgmental and hierarchical." And that's "kind of a mentality I was interested in disabling." It "loosens the mind" not to worry about being wrong: "you can go on to think other things or wider things or the things underneath where you were. It’s just suddenly a different landscape."
Apply that to baseball.

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"The NCAA found him innocent of the violations. What they actually reprimanded him for was his attitude toward their investigators. They called it cavalier"
He does not suffer fools gladly.
"It "loosens the mind" not to worry about being wrong: "you can go on to think other things or wider things or the things underneath where you were..."
I think of baseball's Bill James, of whom I first became aware in 1983. I consider him as much of a baseball historian as anything else.
I did not know any of this. Pat Murphy is my hero.
Re "cavalier"
Remember when Obama said "We should try to prevent unintended pregnancies by providing appropriate education to our youth, communicating that sexuality is sacred and that they should not be engaged in cavalier activity..."?
Talk about bethwacking giblets."
Joe Biden apologized for what he called his "cavalier" statement — "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."
Good judgment keeps you from making mistakes. How do you get good judgment--you have to make a lot of mistakes before you get it. Murphy had a great career at the NCAA level--but it took him a while to get that level of success in MLB. He was an interim manager for the Padres--and got fired. He later said he would have fired himself. Well now he's at Peak Pat Murphy--and good for him. Although I wish his Brewers hadn't done the Padres in this post season.
Catchers and utility infielders who had to live by their wits to keep their baseball jobs are overrepresented in coaching. They have a different attitude than "I can win this by brute force." Learning, experimenting, always watching from the dugout and paying attention.
Interesting to see the number of commenters on that tweet talking about how Murphy doesn't deserve the credit because the team was built by the Brewers' front office long before he arrived. I'm guessing they are part of an "engagement farming" campaign for sports betting or loans or some other sort of garbage..
Murph has similarities to Curt Cignetti, the football coach at Indiana, who reached the mountaintop relatively late in his career. Sometimes the opportunity to prove your worth comes late, but if you're confident and ready, you can achieve great things. And being a tad curmudgeonly is part of the package.
"I did everything wrong 5 times."
This may have been borrowed from Yogi Berra.
I get everything wrong the first time, but I rarely make the same mistake twice. I've lived looking enough that there aren't many first times left. Not many mistakes left to make.
If you're not Cavalier does that make you a roundhead?
There's a quote from Forbes that I've always liked: "Successful people have a lot more failures than failures do."
Most great managers were catchers. Most great coaches in all sport were fair to middling performers.
It seems like trial and error has been rediscovered anew.
Crazy that was such a good manager took so long to get to the MLB brewer's manager position. But whoever had the brains to give him the position has been proven right.
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