"One reason is a stylized wariness that Black Americans are often taught as a kind of wisdom — to be ever on guard that the bad old days could return at any moment. Another reason is a belief that Black people don’t hang themselves because of the fraught historical associations with the act. 'It is very uncommon for young Black men to commit suicide, let alone by hanging,' Raymond Winbush, a psychologist who has treated hundreds of Black men and boys, told The Washington Post. 'That’s not the way we do' is how Black Americans often put it in conversation. But we must ask, with all due compassion: Suppose it is?"
Writes John McWhorter, in "Are Lynchings Really Happening?" (NYT).

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Why is this alleged to be a crisis? Easy. To gin up fear and keep Blacks in the Dem party.
"Suppose it is?"
Suppose a young black man is disgusted with life, particularly the indifference of white culture to his unique gifts as a rap artist. Not yet the zillionaire he believes is his due, and with no prospect of even attaining a paltry millionaire's status, our young negro artiste decides to end it all with a measure of revenge on the blue-eyed devil responsible for his obscurity. Further suppose he hits on the idea of staging his own lynching, killing, as it were, two birds with one stone.
Think of it as kamikaze strangulation.
Is a selfie-abortion evidence of insanity? Planned MeHood
"with all due compassion" Compassion for whom? People committing suicide? People who spin an absurd narrative for partisan gain? Blacks still mired in baseless assumptions?
Is suicide by cop more respectable than by hanging?
It's "uncommon" for people in any group to commit suicide, but a number of people still do.
A question addressed to no one in particular: Just what is the way you do? Declare oneself a Blood in a Crips neighborhood?
Must be an election coming up.
Another fabricated crisis.
What crises? Oh, Trump.
Hoax-in-waiting: Slave auctions in Michigan.
I won't believe any of the multiple "reports" of such that pollute my FB Threads until there is credible evidence and a Grand Jury indictment is handed down. This is not the early 20th century and blacks were not the only "race" to be lynched.
In the comments for the article, it is amazing the number of people who ignore the evidence, or lack thereof, to continue to be convinced these are indeed, lynchings. They want to be, they need to be, incensed!
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“Hoax-in-waiting: Slave auctions in Michigan.”
To make the hoax credible, they’d have to put it in Dearborn.
Critical Diversity Theory
I often hear the same thing from Catholics. “I would never commit suicide, I’m Catholic!” And yet, Catholics do commit suicide. (Same with divorce.)
‘If lynchings are happening it’s Democrats that have always done it. Read a history book then vote Republican’ …is definitely not what NYT is inviting me to believe…
"It is very uncommon for young Black men to commit suicide, let alone by hanging..."
My understanding is that there were 10 reported potential lynchings (i.e., blacks who died by hanging) last year, and according to advocacy groups (i.e., those with the greatest incentive to identify and characterize hangings as lynchings) there were over 70 documented hanging deaths between 2000 and 2025. As of last year, there were approximately 52.8 million blacks in the country. So the ten hangings from last year constitute about 0.0002% (1 per 5.28 million). This is considerably less than an American's 1 in 1.2 million chance of being struck by lightning.
I would suggest that these numbers fit quite comfortably in the "very uncommon" range as suicides.
I would also suggest that, even if all of these were lynchings, 1 per 5.28 million does not constitute a "national crisis."
Selfie-lynchings are on the rise across diversity, and Diversity blocs, of life.
"I would suggest that these numbers fit quite comfortably in the "very uncommon" range as suicides."
Yes. I thought McWhorter was smarter than that. He probably is, but is invested in pushing the narrative.
To have a lynching, you need a perpetrator. Where and who are they/them? Are there signs of struggle? Are hands bound?
Why? Money and attention, obvs.
About 2000 or so, my son found the black teenaged boy who lived next door hanging dead from a tree. Not even his mama tried to blame whitey AFAIK.
If he hadn't done it himself, the most likely culprits were the black thugs who lived behind us in the crappy rental duplexes, who had been allowed to break through the nice wooden fence that had been erected between our backyards and theirs.
The official ruling was suicide.
"To make the hoax credible, they’d have to put it in Dearborn."
I was thinking of the lily-white Upper Peninsula as the setting. A Dearborn slave auction would reflect disastrously on the wrong Senatorial wannabe.
Hangings by Jessie, the new, improved race hustle!
I was going to ask something along the lines of where are the streamers for attention $$. If there was a crisis of that kind.
Upon further reflection, however, that is better left un-answered.
The left lie about all sorts of crime data and statistics.
All while black on black crime in parts of Chicago is ignored.
Smollete crimes are excused.
whatever feeds the narrative of victimhood.
Lynching accounts for why a race with an average IQ of 86 doesn't do as well as a race with an average IQ of 100 without bringing up the 86.
THere are no lynchings. There are nooses that get hung at NASCAR car bays. And the DOJ sends 50 agents to investigate.
Nor is there a KKK, even though boomers cant stop talking about it.
We do have a black-white violence problem. But its black criminals killing white people.
One possible cause for public notions that we're suffering a sudden rash of lynching are the purposely poorly worded headlines like the one this week that said "second arrest in hanging death of black man." Of course the second man arrested, like the first, was black like the victim but the headline was intentionally vague.
We all know why.
The thing about suicide is that it usually requires a "thing" to commit the act. Granted, you could starve yourself to death, but that would take a long time and someone might find you. And it's pretty hard to drown yourself at home. Now you can jump from a tall building or bridge, but that's not guaranteed to be fatal. So when it comes to using "something" to do it, you can use a gun, if you have it; you can use poison, if you have it, but a knife is problematic. But one thing that is really easy to find lying around everywhere is something that can be used for a rope. Seriously, there's stuff all over the house and the garage that would work. So I think that the answer to question of why people hang themselves is that you use what you have, and you use what you know will work.
Summarily: "Are there lynchings going on? We will never know, of course, but black people don't hang themselves"
How to keep racism alive and well - just write an obnoxious 'opinion' piece.
String 'em up!
"second arrest in hanging death of black man."
I believe it was a black woman.
Gotsta keep da natives stirred up.
Not a lynching. Nor a crisis, either. Business as usual, actually.
Helps to read the article before you judge it. It's on archive.today.
To follow up on loudogblog's theory that people hang themselves because that's where the rope is, I would remind the audience that 'lynch' is a generic term for any mob killing, but we tend to associate it with hanging because that was common in the South. And it was common in the south because most states used hanging as their method of capital punishment. And most lynch mobs thought they were delivering justice that the court system had denied or was likely to deny.
With all the guns in this country, it would be easier to shoot the object of your rage. But the lynch mobs wanted to copy a legalized killing as much as possible. CC, JSM
I was tempted to use Kollwitz's work "Old Man with a Rope" as my icon, but I'm not that old yet.
The demand for racism in this country far surpasses the actual supply.
In a way, I applaud these efforts to remind black people of what Democrats used to do to them.
Quick data scan via Grok on black suicides:
"2024 final counts (American Association of Suicidology, based on CDC data):
Black/African American men: 3,181 suicides
Black/African American women: 803 suicides
Combined: 3,984 suicides
Nationally in 2024, hanging/suffocation accounted for 11,453 deaths, or 23.5% of all suicides.
Method mix varies by group. One state system with detailed breakdowns (North Carolina Violent Death Reporting System, 2015–2024, non-Hispanic African American residents) found:
Black men: hanging ~19.7% of suicides
Black women: hanging ~25.1% of suicides
Applying those percentages to the 2024 national totals produces a rough order-of-magnitude estimate of several hundred Black men and roughly 150–200 Black women per year. These are approximations, not official CDC counts. Firearms remain the leading method for both Black men and Black women nationally.
Suicide rates among Black Americans have risen faster than the national average over the past decade, though they remain lower than rates for non-Hispanic White and American Indian/Alaska Native populations."
How do black men commit suicide? Maybe by gunshot, but hanging is less messy and less mutilating. Suicide by overdose would be classified as accidental overdose. Wrist-cutting and plastic bags sound like things men are less likely to do.
You'd think the black politicians and rev'rends and other parasitic gadflies would be relieved to learn that there is not, in fact, an epidemic of lynchings affecting black people.
But you'd be quite wrong. They are incandescently angry at the suggestion, and in any institution or locality that the Left completely controls, your reputation, livelihood, and maybe even your life would be at risk if you dared to say so out loud. This is among the biggest of many big rice-bowl issues for them. They amass a great deal of power and wealth by convincing ignorant people that the Ku Klux Klan is on the march everywhere.
Brings to mind all of the creative methods in Mad Magazine's "Why Kill Yourself?" illustrations. (it could be a misrememberance / confabulation).
Also not a lynching. Maybe a suicide?
This wallowing in self-pity is destructive. Too bad blacks don't see it.
I'm definitely not in favor of a return of lynching, but honestly I wouldn't mind seeing a little tar & feathering once in a while, as long as it's to the right people.
Am I the only person who doesn't see that much racial basis in our (unfortunate) history of lynching? Approximately 60% of all lynching victims were Black. It's not that far fetched to believe that 60% of the people who "deserved" to be lynched were Black. I know mob violence is terrible and that is antithetical to the assumption of innocence and the right to a fair trial. I know lynch mobs made plenty of mistakes. What I'm saying is that the lynch mobs made as many anti-White mistakes as they made anti-Black mistakes and, maybe, Black people weren't unfairly targeted.
As an aside, and this is something everybody should know, the largest mass lynching in history involved Italian Americans in New Orleans (a truly worthless city) who were trying to unionize or something.
“They amass a great deal of power and wealth by convincing ignorant people that the Ku Klux Klan is on the march everywhere.”
So the ignorant people you mention are unaware that the modern KKK has been funded entirely by the SPLC?
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I know lynch mobs made plenty of mistakes.
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Far fewer than is commonly supposed. In the great majority of cases, they got it right.
Professional police forces, judicial independence, due process, and other criminal-justice reforms since the Enlightenment era were intended to be a more reliable way of achieving the same goals without the relative handful of mistaken identities, vendettas, and false accusations.
We should be open to consideration of the prospect that they have failed to deliver the promised results, whether for punishment of the guilty or exoneration of the innocent, in meaningfully different measures from mob justice.
"The incendiary nature of the claim" is the precise reason why the claim is being leveled. It's psyops all the way down, and aren't we all getting just a little tired of it? Even those who have to encourage them, not just those of us who call them out, or attempt to ignore them, must be well and truly over it.
This would seem to imply that while blacks as a group are much less likely to successfully commit suicide, they have suicidal thoughts and attempts largely on par with whites. https://sprc.org/about-suicide/suicide-data/suicide-by-race-ethnicity/
I wonder if the data for successful suicides is being tainted somehow. One theory is that maybe suicides by drug overdoses are being undercounted among blacks and/or overcounted among whites.
Encouraging a mindset of victimhood has been the democrat preferred method to maintain an underclass of worried, dependant, and dependable voters. Acting like a victim, even if you happen do be one in some sense, is never, ever in your best interest, and no one who tries to convince you that you are one is your friend.
"Writes John McWhorter, in "Are Lynchings Really Happening?"
Are fake hate crimes really happening?
Tarring and feathering sounds like something from cartoons, but it was actually quite brutal and painful.
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Tarring and feathering sounds like something from cartoons, but it was actually quite brutal and painful.
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If the tar was hot enough and covered enough of your body, it was a death sentence. A long, painful death sentence, much worse than just having your head lopped off.
I demand the Jussie Smollet Act to stop all these lynching that are totally happening everywhere. We need to stop that real and not imaginary lynchers AND we need to stop the real and not imaginary reflecting pool vandals AND real and not imaginary election thieves.
There are no many real and not imaginary rascals in this country but nobody can ever tell us the names of who they are or prosecute them for their crimes.
Is strangling an insane Choice or Choice of the insane?
I'm giving a spoiler here, but Nathaniel Hawthorne's short story "My Kinsman Major Molineux" includes a tarring and feathering.
Bigotry is malleable. Over time it changes shape and direction. I'm sure there are some people whose bigotry is of such intensity as to be murderous. but I doubt very much that they would murder in such a labor intensive fashion. Also, if you're looking to get away with murder that doesn't appear to be the percentage play.......It is indeed possible to lynch someone under current conditions, but it takes effort, time, and planning. To show how a successful lynching is executed, I would refer readers to the Chauvin case.
'It is very uncommon for young Black men to commit suicide, let alone by hanging,'
The way some do it is just by walking out of their house after dark and then get shot dead by another young black man.
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To show how a successful lynching is executed, I would refer readers to the Chauvin case.
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Unless you're suggesting Chauvin was the one who got lynched, I call bullshit.
George Floyd was a dead man walking, carrying four or five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, infected with COVID, and complaining of severe shortness of breath well before Chauvin ever touched him. Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's shoulder and the posterolateral aspect of the neck, concordant with the training his police force gave him, and well away from the blood vessels. Chauvin was trying to help him by restraining him until the ambulance arrived, instead of callously forcing him into a police cruiser and sending him off to jail to die, by which action he might have avoided the entire ordeal.
Chauvin was a sacrificial lamb railroaded by panicked white Democrats to stop the unruly blacks from rioting. He is an innocent man, and a political prisoner of the Left.
Anyone else here old enough to recall the church burnings across the nation? Yeah, turns out it was all fake news. Sure a few churches had fires in the 1990s but when researchers ran the numbers the incidence of black church fires was no more than what happened at any other time. Someone just made up some shit to make it look like Republicans were torching black churches. Then there was Jussie Smollette. Don't get me started.
Forget lynchings. Did you know we still have cotton fields???
I love the "that is *literally* a cotton field".
"Original Mike said...
Forget lynchings. Did you know we still have cotton fields??"
Cotton is down to a quarter a pound, and I’m busted.
Isn't this derivative of the Obama era race baiting?
The hustle needs to continue for the Democrats.
I am fatigued with this BS.
"The hustle needs to continue for the Democrats."
Democrat success relies on A) segregating people into groups and B) pitting those groups against each other.
Flogging 'racism' as a means to achieve their goals is not going away.
Is this fearfulness about being lynched an innate feature of American black people or is it a conditioned reflex from decades of indoctrination by the gay race communists that dominate public education?
Lynchings in the USA used to be a bi-racial matter. After the civil war till WW 2, over 1000 white men were lynched. People either didn't have enough law enforcement to do the job, or the lawyers were too corrupt to be trusted.
So "Lynch mobs" were often the only law available . Or they did good work. It'd be a lot better if a lot of killers were simply shot after arrest, rather going through these absurd Judicial clown shows. We know Robinson (?) killed Charlie Kirk, but if i've got it right, the trial is STILL going on. For what?
Swift and sure justice is want we're promised, and we don't get that. We get the exact opposite. But who judges the judges? No one. The Lawyers stick their noses into everything and approve or stop it. But who oversees them? No one.
Thats why capital punishment is such a sick joke. You can't even put killers in jail in many cases.
Blacks entertain abortive ideation with scalping and scalpels, first, chopping and machetes, second, and shooting and guns, third. Strangulation with elastic bands, a Jussie noose, a Fentanyl inhibitor, are not their method or weapons of Choice.
BTW "Judicial independence" isnt supposed to be "Judicial Supremacy". If the judges wont or cant base their decisions on the law, they should be removed. And that ultimately goes back to the people's representatives. Otherwise you just have an unaccountable rogue judicial branch which is answerable to no one. Look at Brazil.
What is the point of having a representative democracy, and then throwing a layer of unaccountable unelected judges on top of it to decide everything?
Of course im not talking about $$ directly. So 'murcians are bored by the whole discussion. Because they're too stupid to understand how things are related.
Nobody is dumber than "The smart businessman". The Dumb greedhead who piles up mountains of cash, and does nothing but complain about "the gubmit" and those "Goddamn taxes and Red tape".
Ultimately, the rich guys who DO care about the government gain control - and dumb losertarians lose out. Or they eliminated by some Lenin or Hitler. As Lenin said "the fools will sell us the rope, we'll hang them with".
“ Anyone else here old enough to recall the church burnings across the nation?”
Bill Clinton was.
Who's shootin who?
https://heyjackass.com/2026-race-of-victim-assailant/
'...Did you know we still have cotton fields??"...'
Still deciding whether this is parody or not.
“ Yes. I thought McWhorter was smarter than that. He probably is, but is invested in pushing the narrative.”
I like to listen to McWhorter. In most cases he states the truth but clouds it by a bodyguard of conventional conditional statements, he has to protect himself from being called a sellout or Uncle Tom. You can’t blame him.
Before the revolution tobacco was king, but post, the steam powered mills of Northern England made cotton the largest economic engine of the US bar none.
"Oh, Lawdy, it's time to crank up da Woe B Us Machine and b deliverin' another big heaping of Wallowin' in Self-Pity to America. Get me Reverend Al on da phone pronto!"
Rural black churches used to burn frequently because they were old and often constructed with substandard materials by unskilled labor. Add in drifters trying to stay warm. and racist arson was probably last on the list of causes.
Historic Clayborn Temple here, an important site in 1968, burned a few years ago and the usual morons were in a tizzy about racism.
it didn't take long to determine that some homeless had started a barrel fire where they shouldn't have.
McWhorter like Glenn Loury are really smart guys. Y'never know how much of their bowing down to the Leftists on racial matters is due to their need to "Toe the party line" and how much is sincere.
That they've been passed over for grants and awards by a clown like Tennessee Coats must have been a kick in the pants.
Super-smart people are constrained by the need for elite approval and by the fear they'll be kicked out of the "favored few" if they tell the truth or what they really think.
I can "Tell it like it is" online because i'm anonymous, old, and a nobody. IRL, I'm much more circumspect. And if I was an elite college professor, who knows how courageous I would be.
"McWhorter like Glenn Loury are really smart guys."
Yeah, well. Considering.
I mean, I doubt either one of them would last very long in a class in quantum mechanics, or algorithms. But yeah, for 'groes, they're pretty bright.
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