Althouse: "Asked how the passengers had stopped the attacker, Ms. Ohayon said, 'I believe with their bare hands inside the cockpit.'"

September 30, 2026

"Asked how the passengers had stopped the attacker, Ms. Ohayon said, 'I believe with their bare hands inside the cockpit.'"

From "Passenger Describes Chaos Aboard FlyDubai Flight/The passenger, Miriam Ohayon, said people on board felt the jet lose control and heard screams. 'When they opened the cockpit, there was a lot of blood,' she told Israeli television" (NYT).

109 comments:

Leland said...: Miriam Ohayon and fellow passengers are base.

Glad they returned to us safely.; 9/30/26, 10:37 AM
Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...: Amazingly light on details. Makes me think there’s more to the story.; 9/30/26, 11:06 AM
William said...: This was a spectacular act of heroism by everyone involved, and should be celebrated as such.......I would guess that any attempt to give Muslim pilots extra scrutiny will be described as Islamophobic.; 9/30/26, 11:08 AM
Humperdink said...: There are Americans, including some on this blog, who are disappointed the terrorist(s) didn’t succeed.; 9/30/26, 11:08 AM
Dave Begley said...: This Islamist craziness will never stop.; 9/30/26, 11:12 AM
William said...: Perhaps we shouldn't blame the NYT for not knowing the full story, but the story linked to leaves out all the important details. An Islamic pilot attempted to stab his co-piilot and crash the plane. Passengers broke into the cockpit and prevented that from happening. Two pilots, seated as passengers, took over the controls and safely landed the plane. This is the stuff of Walter Mitty and Indiana Jones. Bravo!; 9/30/26, 11:13 AM
Hassayamper said...: Most Israelis have served in the IDF and have training in hand-to-hand combat. The Muslim vermin is lucky he survived. No doubt he got the worst beating of his life.; 9/30/26, 11:19 AM
ronetc said...: It does make one wonder how passengers were able to break into the cockpit.; 9/30/26, 11:23 AM
Hassayamper said...: ***
I would guess that any attempt to give Muslim pilots extra scrutiny will be described as Islamophobic.
***

Is there anything the Israeli authorities care less about than being thought Islamophobic? We should take a page from their book.

I don't think mosques or imams should be allowed anywhere outside the Arabian desert, or that one single more Muslim should be allowed across the borders of Christendom. I'd love to see them driven out of Turkey, the Levant, and North Africa, and the glory of Constantinople restored.; 9/30/26, 11:26 AM
Leland said...: The lock is a switch on the center console that was within reach of the injured Captain to open the door. The Captain also managed to change transponder codes and alert the flight attendants.; 9/30/26, 11:27 AM
Jim Gust said...: The off duty pilots who took over were Russian and Ukrainian, according to other sources. Had they not happened to be on board, the terror attack would have succeeded. The co-pilot who tried to crash the plane was Omani.; 9/30/26, 11:28 AM
RideSpaceMountain said...: If one acknowledges that they'll die someday and a situation they're experiencing may mean they're dead already, every act they may undertake is essentially a bonus.

Fortuna Audaces Iuvat. Fear profits the dead nothing.; 9/30/26, 11:41 AM
David53 said...: Great headline from NYTimes.com

Clash Between Pilots Prompts Distress Signal on Flight From Dubai to Tel Aviv; 9/30/26, 11:42 AM
Howard said...: We all know this is Trump's fault:

Things got a little out of hand. It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch, Johnson!; 9/30/26, 11:57 AM
Hombre said...: Any chance this was Muslim terrorism? No comment section in NYT is the first clue.; 9/30/26, 11:58 AM
Dr Weevil said...: Jim Gust (11:28):

Your "other sources" may have just made that up. Early on, Twitter accounts were claiming that the two pilots were a Russian and a Ukrainian, and that's why they fought. After that was exploded, and we knew that the pilot who was stabbed was an Emirati, the stabby co-pilot Omani, some tried to save face by claiming the pilots who took over were a Russian and a Ukrainian. Others said at least one was British.

I suspect the first claim was Russian propaganda, trying to depict Ukrainians as knee-jerk anti-Russian psychotics. It does appear that just about all the passengers were Israelis, so no doubt some (possibly including the substitute pilots) are dual citizens, or immigrants, from Russia, Ukraine, or Britain, as so many Israelis are.

William (11:13am):

The pilot did not "try" to stab the co-pilot. It was the other way around, and the attempt was successful. The co-pilot stabbed the pilot, apparently more than once, and possibly some of the rescuers. There was certainly blood all over the place when things settled down, and the pilot was in bad shape: covered with blood, with an oxygen mask over his face. (Plenty of pictures on Twitter.) Latest reports (not always reliable, of course) are that the Omani co-pilot used an axe, not a knife.

Everyone:

No one's talking about this on Twitter, but it could have been much, much worse. The fact that the plane dived 17,000 feet in a minute, ripping part of the tail off, suggests that the co-pilot was just trying to kill everyone on board. I wonder whether he might have been planning a 9/11-style attack, and hoped to fly to Tel Aviv and crash into the biggest high-rise he could find. It may have been only the wounded pilot's ability to unlock the cabin that prevented him from attempting that. Of course, the Israeli Air Force would probably have been able to intercept the plance, but I still wonder what he had in mind. No doubt the Saudi investigators will soon find out. This is one case where the Saudi custom of publicly beheading convicted criminals doesn't seem at all excessive.; 9/30/26, 12:02 PM
Humperdink said...: Howard: “ We all know this is Trump's fault:”

Get with program Howard it was the Jooos fault.

BTW, the wounded pilot was able to open the cockpit door.; 9/30/26, 12:04 PM
Howard said...: Oh yeah, I forgot about the memo that says that Trump is merely a puppet of Benji Netanyahu. Maybe the perpetrator will claim temporary insanity having postpartum depression after listening to netanyahu's UN speech. Maybe we could stir up the Lindsay Clancy fans into ulululating for him as he gets frog marched to prison.; 9/30/26, 12:07 PM
narciso said...: Like the 99 egypt air crash; 9/30/26, 12:21 PM
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narciso said...: https://x.com/AGHamilton29/status/2105313773179617599; 9/30/26, 12:44 PM
narciso said...: https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2105269121327804558; 9/30/26, 12:48 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Lack of details on who were the terrorists. Rather odd; 9/30/26, 12:48 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: There was someone who had a brother killed on october 7th. Shocking there were no holocaust survivors mentioned.; 9/30/26, 12:53 PM
Tacitus said...: I'm fine with some details being left out. I'd speculate that there are buttons, disguised in some way, that let pilots unlock the door or do other sneaky things. I know the stewardesses have a special unlock code but that it can be over ridden from inside the cockpit. Mentour Pilot has lots of good stuff on this sort of question. See the German Wings suicide flight of some years back.; 9/30/26, 12:57 PM
Tom T. said...: There's a guy on Twitter showing a selfie outside a flyDubai plane, saying "I survived a kidnapping attempt, send me nudes." Have to admire his presence of mind.; 9/30/26, 12:58 PM
Not an oldster. said...: How is this going to affect diesel prices, like what American school buses run on, though?; 9/30/26, 12:58 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Did we get anything in the NYT's on this?

"The Republicans in the United States Senate has blocked a resolution that would have required President Donald Trump’s administration to report on the killing of nine Americans in the occupied West Bank and on Israel’s treatment of Palestinian children in military detention."

Of course, thats a "feel bad" story. While people stopping a hi-jacking is the opposite.; 9/30/26, 1:05 PM
Saint Croix said...: Here is Bibi talking to the guy who subdued the attacker.

The stabbed pilot (from the UAE) managed to open the cabin door, allowing the Israeli passengers to subdue the attacker. The Omani was trying to sabotage the plane's controls. Yanif Hayun put the terrorist in a sleeper hold.

Apparently, two off-duty pilots (one from Ukraine and one from Russia) safely landed the plane in Saudi Arabia. That's an incredible story!; 9/30/26, 1:13 PM
Saint Croix said...: Plane dropped 17,000 feet in two minutes.; 9/30/26, 1:17 PM
Gospace said...: Also reported- the agreement with the UAE and Israel is that all pilots/flight crew of their planes going to be Israel must be from nations that have diplomatic relations with Israel.

Oman doesn't have diplomatic relations with Israel.; 9/30/26, 1:17 PM
Saint Croix said...: Saudi Arabia also does not recognize Israel's right to exist. Although the two countries have been secretly working together for many years now, to thwart Iran.

The passengers were afraid to get on another plane flown by anybody but an Israeli. Saudi Arabia refused to allow an Israeli jet -- even one unmarked -- to land in the kingdom. So ultimately the Israelis had to fly home on another flydubai jet, after the IDF did a security check on the new pilots.; 9/30/26, 1:28 PM
Saint Croix said...: Jerusalem Post report is pretty good.; 9/30/26, 1:33 PM
Dave Begley said...: Clay Travis on the radio made an excellent point. The attack was made 2 hours into the flight. The attacker may well have intended to crash the plane into a building in Israel. The Islamists want to commemorate 9-11-01 in 2026.

And don't forget, the Dems hate Israel and they are the ones always complaining there was a genocide in Gaza.; 9/30/26, 1:41 PM
bagoh20 said...: Very lucky. If the attempted murder had succeeded, or the attempt had been made at a lower altitude, all would have died.
I think that the post 9/11 expectation that passengers will now respond like this is what has prevented another 9/11 more than TSA has.; 9/30/26, 1:43 PM
Saint Croix said...: The attacker may well have intended to crash the plane into a building in Israel.

He smuggled a knife on board, so he was clearly planning something. At a minimum, he was trying to kill all the Jews on the plane.

Flights from Israel to UAE are relatively recent, thanks to the Abraham Accords. These are the Accords started in the first Trump administration by his son-in-law. Basically it's building on the Egypt-Israel accord signed with Jimmy Carter. It's a simple recognition of Israel's existence and diplomatic relations. Multiple countries had signed on, and Saudi Arabia was about to, when Hamas did its terrorist attack, sabotaging the whole process.

This terrorist attempt was done to sabotage peace in the region, to isolate Israel and keep it from having any relations with its neighbors. Murdering civilians is their m.o. If this had succeeded, there would have been cheers in Gaza, in Iran, and some faculty lounges here in the USA.; 9/30/26, 1:50 PM
Saint Croix said...: NBC news with some images; 9/30/26, 1:52 PM
Quaestor said...: "I would guess that any attempt to give Muslim pilots extra scrutiny will be described as Islamophobic."

I remind everyone that this is the fourth time a Muslim airline pilot has crashed or attempted to crash his aircraft, not counting the 9/11 terrorists.

Islam is the most destructive mental illness known, and "Islamophobia" is merely practical wisdom.; 9/30/26, 1:53 PM
Quaestor said...: "NBC news with some images."

And without an adult mind in sight: "Could this be terror related?"; 9/30/26, 1:59 PM
Saint Croix said...: From the NYT

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel identified the pilot who was stabbed as Capt. Smit Machchhar, an Indian citizen.

“Despite being stabbed and seriously injured, he fought back, resisted, opened the cockpit door, and enabled passengers and crew to overpower the attacker, preventing a catastrophic mid-air disaster,” Netanyahu said. “He saved the lives of 174 people, including Israeli citizens and other nationals.”; 9/30/26, 2:05 PM
Mary Beth said...: "Latest reports (not always reliable, of course) are that the Omani co-pilot used an axe, not a knife."

There was a discussion on r/aviation about there being a fire axe in the cockpit.; 9/30/26, 2:05 PM
Vance said...: Surprised RC hasn't tried to start a memorial fund for the Omani and called for the arrest of the passengers, with IEEE joining RC in that call.; 9/30/26, 2:11 PM
Not an oldster. said...: I think this is going to be another case of workplace violence by a co-worker is all... we've seen suicidal pilots before.

Glad no one died.; 9/30/26, 2:16 PM
Quaestor said...: "There was a discussion on r/aviation about there being a fire axe in the cockpit."

I doubt that. I can't think of a single non-insane reason for an aircraft to be equipped with a fire axe. If your plane is on fire, there's nothing an axe can do to mitigate that situation.

That said, a camping axe would be small enough for a pilot to smuggle aboard an aircraft, since pilots' baggage items aren't routinely searched or scanned in many jurisdictions. Such an axe would be a formidable slashing weapon, which could account for the copious bloodshed.; 9/30/26, 2:17 PM
Original Mike said...: "If this had succeeded, there would have been cheers in Gaza, in Iran, and some faculty lounges here in the USA."

Not to mention a couple of commenters here.; 9/30/26, 2:27 PM
bagoh20 said...: "This terrorist attempt was done to sabotage peace in the region, to isolate Israel and keep it from having any relations with its neighbors. "

Those who thwarted this attack likely saved the lives of many more in the near future.
Israel is routinely criticized for overreacting to being attacked, but I think they are more reserved than most other nations would be. The fact that they continue to be attacked is an indication that they don't respond strongly enough, which their enemies count on.; 9/30/26, 2:41 PM
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bagoh20 said...: From the Jerusalem Post: "A number of failures are being probed by the joint Israeli security team, including why the Omani pilot was not properly checked for weapons possession, since he had a weapon with him in the cockpit with which to stab his co-pilot.

The Saudis are also probing how the United Arab Emirates allowed an Omani citizen to pilot an aircraft flying to Israel, given explicit agreements between the countries that this would not occur."

Accidental or intentional failure? Reminds me of the failures at the Butler assassination attempt.; 9/30/26, 2:49 PM
Dr Weevil said...: I wonder if there's a translation issue, and the weapon was actually what Americans would call a hatchet, not an axe. It wouldn't be surprising if some languages used the same word for both.

Hmmm. Why not check Google Translate? It says they're both 'gar'zen' in Hebrew, but in Arabic axe is 'alfas', hatchet 'fas'. Not that I trust Google translate: isn't 'al' Arabic for 'the'? In that case, it may be that axe and hatchet are both 'fas', but GT for some reason added 'the' for one but not the other. In any case, the information probably came from the passengers, so a Hebrew original of the axe story is more likely.; 9/30/26, 2:49 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: "sabotage the peace". LOL. Is that NYT's satire bags? what "peace"? Israel has is attacking Iran and lebanon. They're occupying Syria, and killing gazans and palestinians in the West Bank. Its similar to someone talking about a terrorist action in 1940 sabotaging "the Peace" in Europe.; 9/30/26, 2:50 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Amazingly, the NYT's actually reported that Jewish/Israelis are burning Palestinian homes on the West bank. that was on Sept 26th. Of course, Mike Huckabee approves. Because "the huckster" isn't a Christian but a paid off pol who'll do anything for $$, and has the morals of whore-beating pimp and conman.; 9/30/26, 2:53 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: BTW, here's the news value the NYTs - our elite's newspaper - puts on human life. We get a news article if:

1) An earthquake in China kills 10,000
2) 100 Americans are killed in "Fly-over country"
3) Israelis were in danger on an airplane.; 9/30/26, 2:57 PM
Aggie said...: The plane diverted to western SA. Where in the airspace did the attack take place, if it was two hours into the flight? Must have been in SA airspace, but I wonder how far from Israel?; 9/30/26, 2:58 PM
wildswan said...: What I've read is that it was a international effort. The pilot (who was a Dubai national) managed to get the door to the cockpit open when he was attacked by the terrorist co-pilot. A passenger saw the fighting and alerted other passengers. Israeli passengers dragged the terrorist co-pilot (who was an Omani citizen) from the cabin and subdued him, getting stabbed in the process. A Russian and a Ukrainian who were backup pilots for Dubai, took over the controls and pulled the plane out of its dive. They landed it in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis returned the passengers to Israel.; 9/30/26, 3:06 PM
Quaestor said...: "The plane diverted to western SA. Where in the airspace did the attack take place, if it was two hours into the flight? Must have been in SA airspace, but I wonder how far from Israel?"

According to a graphic broadcast by NBC News, the knife/axe attack by the co-pilot happened near the air border between Jordan and SA. Evidently, the two FlyDubai pilots who assumed command of the A/C radioed ATC (as required) and were instructed to divert to a nearby Saudi airport. According to international regulations, diversion to the nearest landing is SOP in cases like this.; 9/30/26, 3:13 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Although nobody axed me, here is the low down on Planes and fire axes:

• Reaching Hidden Fires: Pilots use the insulated axe to break through interior panels, ceiling linings, or sidewalls to fight hidden electrical fires.
• Emergency Egress: The tool helps crew members clear a path or break through wreckage and structural components during an emergency evacuation.
• Clearing Blocked Routes: It can force open jammed doors or compartments if normal mechanisms fail.

And now you know..the rest of the story.; 9/30/26, 3:15 PM
Saint Croix said...: Terrorist states will never bring peace, RCOcean, and it’s obscene, and irrational, that you think eliminating the Jewish state will help the world.; 9/30/26, 3:17 PM
Quaestor said...: "A Russian and a Ukrainian who were backup pilots for Dubai, took over the controls and pulled the plane out of its dive."

According to eyewitness Zvika Mans, head of investment underwriting for Bank Leumi, the relief pilot who landed Flight FZ1073 is from Fiji. What's your source, wildswan?; 9/30/26, 3:25 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Terrorist states will never bring peace, RCOcean,

Thats the only true part of your statement. And israel is a Terrorist gangster state at this point. And until Uncle Sam acts like a grownup, instead of vassel, this Gangster State of Israel will continue to cause wars and terrorism in the Middle East.

But then I'm just Joe six-pack American. Waving the flag and singing yankee doodle dandy. And not someone who believes "The Bible" gives a bunch of people - like Netenyahu - who can trace their heritage from Russia, Ukraine or poland the right to the whole middle east. Unlike "The huckster" or Ted cruz.; 9/30/26, 3:29 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Matt Yglesis really loves fire axes. They can be used for chopping. And he's really into that.; 9/30/26, 3:31 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Nice of RCOCEAN to confirm what a contemptible Jew-hating swine and liar he is.

An interesting angle no one here has mentioned, that makes this story very newsworthy, the description "Israelis were in danger on an airplane" disgusting and false, and shows that their survival was miraculous as well as heroic.
A military pilot explains (link) how surprising it is that the plane survived, losing only part of its tail: its air speed was far beyond safe limits, and the strain should have ripped the entire tail off and killed everyone on board.; 9/30/26, 3:48 PM
bagoh20 said...: "...its air speed was far beyond safe limits, and the strain should have ripped the entire tail off and killed everyone on board."

RC, if that happened, what would you be saying here today?; 9/30/26, 3:52 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Here's an interesting account of what (supposedly) happened in the cockpit: link.; 9/30/26, 3:54 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Someone on Twitter - sorry, forgot the link - observed that Capt. Sullenberger landing his plane safely in the Hudson River with no engines and no casualties is now only the second-best such feat.

And speaking of casualties, someone above seemed to think the murderous co-pilot was killed. I don't think so, but I'm pretty sure he will be publicly decapitated in the next few months.; 9/30/26, 4:02 PM
n.n said...: Hamasidals in flight. Hamasidals and human shields on the ground.; 9/30/26, 4:07 PM
Dr Weevil said...: It does appear that the off-duty pilot who landed the plane was not Russian or Ukrainian, he was from Fiji. So says one of the people who stormed the cockpit, an Israeli investment banker: link.; 9/30/26, 4:11 PM
Mason G said...: "RC, if that happened, what would you be saying here today?"

Well, if it means a bunch of jooos get killed...; 9/30/26, 4:13 PM
Gospace said...: Islamophobia isn't a phobia, phobia meaning irrational fear. I've been trying for awhile to find a suffix or prefix that means rational fear, but have yet to find one. Anyone here know one? Because islamo needs one.; 9/30/26, 4:16 PM
paminwi said...: May I say “Screw Saudi Arabia”? I thought they were part of the Abraham Accords. Israel sending an unmarked plane shouldn’t have been a big deal.; 9/30/26, 4:21 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: If a terrorist killed a bunch of Israelis on a plane, I'd be sad about it. And that's the difference between the IDF brigade and me. I don't want anyone killed.

IOW, I'm a decent and moral person. And an American. I don't clap when innocent Arabs are murdered by Israel or vice-versa.

Right now, lets total up the score. 4000 Lebonese murdered by the IDF. 80000 Gazans Murdered by the IDF. 5000 or more Iranians murdered in USA/Israel in their attacks on Iran. And of course, the non-stop decades long murder of Palestinians in the West bank by Jewish Settlers.

OTOH, 1300 israelis killed on October 7th. I'm sure you can add some more since then for other terrorist attacks and attacks on Israel.

So, what is that 100 thousand to 2 thousand approximately?; 9/30/26, 4:22 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Nice of RCOCEAN to confirm what a contemptible Jew-hating swine and liar he is.

Thanks Dr. I love you too.; 9/30/26, 4:26 PM
Dr Weevil said...: A "decent and moral person" would have done a little research, especially when repeatedly asked to do so by other commentators, and figured out that the 80,000, 4,000, and 5,000 numbers are baldfaced lies by Muslim propagandists, who count armed terrorists killed while firing at Israeli soldiers as "civilians", and also count deaths from natural causes as Israel's fault, plus the hundreds of Gazans who have been murdered by Hamas for insufficient servility. As far as Hamas is concerned, all Palestinians are civilians, even when trying to kills Jews, and all Jews are soldiers, even when they're infants in diapers like the Bibas children. And RC eats it all up, because he's a Jew-hating bigot and a fool.; 9/30/26, 4:32 PM
Dr Weevil said...: By the way, it's not hard to find out how many Israelis have been killed since October 7th. A simple Google search tells me 968 soldiers, including 6 colonels, plus 88 policemen. People who pretend that Israel is just dropping bombs from great heights on unarmed civilians, and say that they should have gone into the tunnels to fight are, as usual, fools. That's exactly what they did do, and they took a lot of casualties trying to reduce the number of civilian deaths and injuries, while Hamas tries to increase them, knowing they make good propaganda.; 9/30/26, 4:35 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: One pilot of Israel-bound flight stabbed the other and tried to crash plane ~ FT
𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘪𝘭𝘰𝘵’𝘴 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘪𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘈𝘯 𝘐𝘴𝘳𝘢𝘦𝘭𝘪 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘪𝘭𝘰𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘯 𝘖𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘥 “9/11-𝘴𝘵𝘺𝘭𝘦” 𝘢𝘵𝘵𝘢𝘤𝘬.

That seems premature. The cockpit attack and attempted seizure of control appear well supported, but the motive is still under investigation. Calling it a planned “9/11-style” terrorist attack at this stage is an official suspicion, not an established fact.; 9/30/26, 4:52 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: People who pretend that Israel is just dropping bombs from great heights on unarmed civilians, and say that they should have gone into the tunnels to fight are, as usual, fools.

Nobody said they were fools. The IDF are simply gangsters and cowards, who instead of going into the tunnels and killing Hamas like men, killed women and children. Sniped people in churches and bombed hospitals and day care centers. They did the same thing in lebanon. Its their MO.

Not sure why the Israelis and their supporters are upset when you bring it up. Why 'murcians just love kid-killers. that's the mark of a true man and true soldier. "Honor" - what the fuck is that?; 9/30/26, 4:54 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: If you want to know a "real American" ask them about our killing 168 schoolgirls? They practically revel in it. Just like they love bombing Dresden and HIroshima. Of course if the enemy kills "our" women and kids - why that's different. The evil bastards.; 9/30/26, 4:56 PM
Dr Weevil said...: RCJewHater just can't stop lying. How many of the hospitals Israel bombed had armed terrorists hiding in them, tunnels full of weapons under them, or other things that made them legitimate targets? The answer is: all of them. Putting weapons or soldiers or terrorists (active ones, not wounded ones in beds) in hospitals is a war crime. Same for keeping ammunition in or under hospitals. Bombing a hospital with weapons or soldiers or terrorists in it is not a war crime.

The same goes for child soldiers. Putting loaded guns or bombs in the hands of 16- or 14- or 12-year-olds and sending them to shoot at soldiers is a war crime. Soldiers shooting back at them and killing them is not a war crime. We've explained this to RCMoron many times, but he just doesn't get it.

And no one "revels" in the alleged killing of 168 schoolgirls. Many Americans have grave doubts as to who did it, and as to the number of victims, which kept increasing from 40 to 168, That is entirely different from revelry. Again, RCPinhead just can't stop lying.; 9/30/26, 5:05 PM
Joe Bar said...: Russians and Ukrainians working together to save lives! Halleluhiah!; 9/30/26, 5:14 PM
Dr Weevil said...: The Russian and Ukrainian pilots thing seems to be false. See the first two paragraphs of my 12:02pm comment.; 9/30/26, 5:15 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: Initial uncertainty about responsibility and casualties was legitimate, but the evidence has since narrowed it considerably. An AP investigation found that at least one U.S. missile struck the school, while a U.N.-commissioned mission found “reasonable grounds” to believe U.S. forces were responsible and that the school was the intended target. The Pentagon has not released its own investigation, so some questions remain. Also, 168 was the reported total killed—not 168 schoolgirls; the victims included children and adults, boys and girls.; 9/30/26, 5:20 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Did the total include uniformed soldiers on duty? Were they hiding behind civilians while firing at U.S. targets? Hamas and Hezbollah do that all the time, and Iran is certainly no better at obeying the Laws of War than its puppets.; 9/30/26, 5:25 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: Dr Weevil writes: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘱𝘪𝘭𝘰𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘧𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘦.

Yes — social media, and Ex-Twitter in particular, seems to do the investigative work for the armchair investigators posting here.; 9/30/26, 5:26 PM
gilbar said...: RCOCEAN II said...
If a terrorist killed a bunch of Israelis on a plane, I'd be sad about it..
I don't want anyone killed..

all this makes Perfect Sense, once you remember that rcola does NOT think that a JOOO is a human being.
he'd "be sad" if any Israeli Arabs died.
he doesn't 'want anyone killed'..
but, he doesn't think the Joooze count as "anyone".; 9/30/26, 5:27 PM
gilbar said...: from KC-10 driver on X..
[pic]
This is a “Crash Axe” on a 737 MAX. It’s in the cockpit.

In a crash, the airframe may get distorted to such an extent that the doors won’t open. While the skin of the jet looks thick at the entry doors, it’s not as thick along the rest of the fuselage. In theory, you could hack your way through it with the axe as a last resort to escape.
https://x.com/MCCCANM/status/2105315377228202063; 9/30/26, 5:33 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: US government debt rout triggers ‘vicious loop’ of selling ~ WSJ

Well done Donald. Bond investors must feel like they are on a flight to Tel Aviv.; 9/30/26, 5:36 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: BTW, BTW, i always find it amusing that I can cuss, defame, and shit on Americans, till the cows come home and i get.....zero reaction. The 'muricans don't care. They're just bi-peds living in a space called the USA.

But if you whisper one word of criticism of Israel. Y'now, God's country. Land of the free and home of the brave. Why an avalanche of criticism and hate comes down on you. Burn an israeli flag - you land in jail and everyone claps. Burn an American flag - and its Ok. That's in constitution. Really.

Why don't we just change the flag from 50 stars to one? If the Mossad started killing Americans would anyone care? I doubt it. They've killed nine on West Bank and no 'murican cares. Huckabee thinks its great!

What a country!; 9/30/26, 5:44 PM
Candide said...: Russian consulate in Dubai states no Russia citizens were on that plane. Other Russian news identify back-up pilots as citizens of South Africa and New Zealand.; 9/30/26, 5:46 PM
gilbar said...: RCOCEAN II said...
BTW, BTW, i always find it amusing that I can cuss, defame, and shit on Americans, till the cows come home and i get.....zero reaction..

could you Please give one (just ONE) example of when you
"cuss, defame, and shit on Americans"?
just ONE?? EVER?; 9/30/26, 5:48 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Candide:
An eyewitness and participant said the pilot who landed the plane was from Fiji. I wonder if he was born in New Zealand and lives in Fiji, and maybe has dual citizenship. NZ would be an obvious place for Fijian airlines to recruit pilots.; 9/30/26, 5:49 PM
Dr Weevil said...: gilbar:
RCPinhead certainly does "cuss, defame, and shit on Americans" all the time - as long as they're Jews. Of course, he didn't think they're real Americans, so your point stands.; 9/30/26, 5:50 PM
Peachy+2 said...: RC - cut the crap with your fake stories. Lies.; 9/30/26, 6:05 PM
jim said...: Wait, isn't the New York Slimes was covering this up?; 9/30/26, 6:30 PM
Michael McNeil said...: Monty Python's John Cleese likes the term is Islamoskeptic, rather than Islamophobia.; 9/30/26, 6:47 PM
hanuman_prodigious_leaper said...: Diversion to Saudi airport for lower population density? - could have landed in Jordan otherwise?; 9/30/26, 7:00 PM
Humperdink said...: RCO stated with certainty: “ I'm a decent and moral person”

That’s hilarious RC. When you have to broadcast that you are decent and moral it generally means that even you recognize that you are not.; 9/30/26, 7:01 PM
Jim at said...: *Wait, isn't the New York Slimes was covering this up?*

When they refer to one pilot stabbing the other (multiple times) as an 'altercation' they might as well be.

Why are you leftists so afraid of the truth?; 9/30/26, 7:02 PM
Mason G said...: Why do people who make no secret of the fact that they hate jews get so upset when you point out that they hate jews?; 9/30/26, 7:21 PM
narciso said...: Islamggnosos; 9/30/26, 8:06 PM
Original Mike said...: "BTW, BTW, i always find it amusing that I can cuss, defame, and shit on Americans, till the cows come home and i get.....zero reaction. The 'muricans don't care. They're just bi-peds living in a space called the USA.

But if you whisper one word of criticism of Israel. Y'now, God's country. Land of the free and home of the brave. Why an avalanche of criticism and hate comes down on you."

You live on a different planet than the rest of us.; 9/30/26, 8:25 PM
Hey Skipper said...: @Quaestor: "'"There was a discussion on r/aviation about there being a fire axe in the cockpit.'  I doubt that. I can't think of a single non-insane reason for an aircraft to be equipped with a fire axe. If your plane is on fire, there's nothing an axe can do to mitigate that situation."

*All* airliners have a crash axe on the flight deck. The primary use is to break out the secondary exits — the sliding flight deck windscreens — in case exit by the primary exit — flight deck door — is impossible.

RCO: ''sabotage the peace'. LOL. Is that NYT's satire bags? what "peace"? Israel has is attacking Iran and lebanon. They're occupying Syria, and killing gazans and palestinians in the West Bank. Its similar to someone talking about a terrorist action in 1940 sabotaging "the Peace" in Europe."

You are a Jew-hating moral cretin. In all your loathsome comments, not once do you mention Islamo-fascist Sharia supremacism. Oh, and arguments from analogy are a sure sign of a logic-impaired idiot, or a liar. In your case, based on extensive evidence, both.

"BTW, here's the news value the NYTs - our elite's newspaper - puts on human life. We get a news article if:  1) An earthquake in China kills 10,000 2) 100 Americans are killed in 'Fly-over country' 3) Israelis were in danger on an airplane."

Once again with analogizing via body counts. A landslide in China has absolutely nothing to do with a universalist, eliminationist, totalitarian ideology. Yet you bring them both up in the same sentence, nonetheless.

"And until Uncle Sam acts like a grownup, instead of vassel, this Gangster State of Israel will continue to cause wars and terrorism in the Middle East"

This war would not exist were it not for Iran's support of sovereignty-destroying proxies, overtly eliminationist goals, and pursuit of ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons for which it had absolutely no use except to impose Sharia as far and wide as it possibly could.

Nice of you to confirm what a contemptible Jew hating swine you are. n (H/T Dr. Weevil)

"If you want to know a 'real American' ask them about our killing 168 schoolgirls? They practically revel in it. Just like they love bombing Dresden and Hiroshima."

Give us just one example. Otherwise, you are a lying crap sack.

A similarly morally cretinous commenter, Crack Emcee, if memory serves, spewed the very same ignorant nonsense as you do. Unlike you, however, he took the hint and went to more hateful pastures.; 9/30/26, 8:26 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Hey Skipper, long time no see.

Never hear from you - unless I criticize Israel. Why is that?

Just curious.; 9/30/26, 8:41 PM
Peachy+2 said...: worth a big hearty repeat:
Saint Croix said...
Terrorist states will never bring peace, RCOcean, and it’s obscene, and irrational, that you think eliminating the Jewish state will help the world.

@3:17 PM; 9/30/26, 8:44 PM
Peachy+2 said...: RC COLA - How dare anyone support Israel. They must be on the payroll!
Paranoid. loo oo ooooo zer.
History teaches us why Israel has supporters. It's not a grand conspiracy.; 9/30/26, 8:46 PM
Mason G said...: Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean the joooos still aren't trying to get you.; 9/30/26, 8:53 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Nothing wrong with loving Israel, no matter what they do. Israel - right or wrong my country.

But I aint an Israeli. I'm an American. We need to stop this nonsense. This immorality in the middle east. We hold the whip hand. We finance this small gangster country. And they wouldn't last one day without our support.

Imagine LIncoln or Washington putting up this crap. But I guess we'd rather get on our knees and give blowjobs to the Gangsters. Sad.; 9/30/26, 8:57 PM
Peachy+2 said...: I assume the corrupt liar left are already spinning Netanyahu did this! conspiracies/

Asshole Soviet networks like CNN and BS NOW won't even discuss the story. and if they do - it's in BS terms.; 9/30/26, 9:13 PM
Peachy+2 said...: RC Cola - your reductio absurdum arguments are lame.; 9/30/26, 9:14 PM
Peachy+2 said...: This man is a hero.

Captain Smit Machchhar, the Indian captain of flydubai Flight 1073, fought back after being stabbed in the cockpit.

Despite being severely injured, he managed to unlock the cockpit door – allowing Israeli passengers and the Emirati crew to intervene and save all the passengers.

Together, their extraordinary courage saved 174 lives.

Indian. Israeli. Emirati.

Different nationalities. One extraordinary act of courage."; 9/30/26, 9:20 PM
Peachy+2 said...: My opinion of Israel haters keeps sinking lower. You are all the same lie-buying canned ass Owens Hunter-biden-types.
Hamas-hugging fuckheads.
Hamas slaughters Palestinians.
Israel tries to save people.; 9/30/26, 9:22 PM