UPDATE: At Truth Social:
Based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United States of America, cancelled the scheduled strikes and bombings against Iran this evening. Discussions and final points have been, in both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved, including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, and others. The Naval Blockade will remain in full force and effect until this Transaction is finalized — Time and place of the signing to be announced shortly.
DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
So "discussions" have been approved. That doesn't sound like an agreement. But there is "this Transaction." That too doesn't sound like an agreement, and yet it is something that can be "finalized" and signed, which does sound like an agreement.
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Saying the loud part, out loud.
The man likes to keep busy.
I'm starting to feel like I've been hearing about the not too distant future for a long time.
If Trump is just trying to wear them down to set the conditions for regime change, fine. But if he's not going to push for much more than he's already gotten, then wrap it up already.
Trump has kind of reversed the connotation of "lame duck".
Time will tell.
So far in this war, time has shown Trump to be a bald faced liar. Maybe it will be different this time.
Let's have the Marine Expeditionary Force raise the flog over Kharg Island.
I suspect this is Trump saying, Let's make a deal.
If he had concrete plans to do this he wouldn't have announced it was coming...or would he?
Could he do it? I picture the mullahs and the IRGC thugs looking at one another with wide eyes wondering the same thing.
"raise the flog over Kharg Island."
The jawboning shall continue until morale improves.
Trump should change its name to Trump Island and host UFC fights there, like "Han" in Bruce Lee's 'Enter the Dragon.'
Han even had a prosthetic hand claw with a merkin that looked like Trump's hair!
Trump has shown he's not restrained by what people will say about his actions and policies. He's willing to do just about anything that makes sense to him, like it or not. None of us know what the intelligence is about what's feasible, how the various scenarios war-game out, what the regime is capable of, and what other nations are offering or threatening. Whatever all that is, it has Trump wanting to avoid bringing the hammer down unless all else fails. We don't know the calculus, but I'm confident the restraint is not due to weakness, but rather strategy and long term outcome in the bigger geopolitical balance. It's fascinating that Trump is the one being more restrained than a lot of us want.
Mullah: Trump didn't invade Greenland. Maybe he won't...
IRGC thug: Greenland is infidel! Maybe you are infidel.
Mullah: No, I just meant maybe...
IRGC thug: You are spy for Greenland and unbeliever! Put this Geenland dog in the freezer where he belongs!
Mullah: Hey...
IRGC thug: Your virgins are already being re-assigned.
Mullah: But...
IRGC thug: Who wants to be the new Supreme Leader? You! Come here.
I’m sure we will be taking their oil in self defense, that’s the ticket.
Why did the Iranians have to take back their country in 1979 from the Mossad and CIA control, causing this 50 year war? You can always spot an evil country by the fact that they are sitting on oil we don’t control.
Jag off.
We went into Iraq over the weapons of mass destruction that we gave them to use against Iran, and now every dollar they get from their oil is controlled by the US, leverage we just used there to reverse an election.
It’s like we live in the Matrix, blinded from reality by a flood of propaganda that rains down on us like those glyphs at the start of that movie. How many wars has Iran started?
Shorter Trump: “I drink your milkshake!”
That comment is not aimed at me, propaganda science says that an effective way to prevent people from thinking for themselves is to make them worried about being ostracized, it came from Freud’s book, Totem and Taboo. It isn’t aimed at me, it’s aimed at people who might begin to think for themselves. Notice that there is no factual rebuttal.
If all we wanted was their oil we could just drill through from Texas and suck it out from under them.
But I thought a peace deal was 99% agreed? Color me orange with shock!
Heartless Aztec said...
“Let's have the Marine Expeditionary Force raise the flag over Kharg Island.”
But not have the Maine Expeditionary Force raise a totenkopf over Kharg Island.
bagoh20 write: “Trump has shown he's not restrained by what people will say about his actions and policies.”
President Trump will be remembered as the most influential and greatest President in modern American history. Yet another groundbreaking initiative, yet another historic victory is coming for America. We are witnessing a legacy of strength, prosperity, and diplomacy that will stand for generations. Thank you President Trump!
"But I thought a peace deal was 99% agreed?"
With Islamists? It turned out exactly as expected. We only get Trump's public version, and that may have nothing to do with what's actually happening. 1st) It's gamesmanship. 2nd) There is no secure leadership in Iran to make decisions that stick and control all the factions and their weapons. Simplistic expectations are just not going to line up.
If you wrote things like that more often, you wouldn't need to change your identity all the time.
…I see failure to recognize that during wartime sometimes the first priority of what is said publicly is not to inform the least informed members of the general public…
….and look at that, no ten percent for the big guy…
Jag nose on…
"President Donald Trump on Wednesday announced that more than 100 million barrels of oil had made their way through the Strait of Hormuz as part of a "secret mission" he gave the U.S. military to support oil tankers moving through the waterway."
https://justthenews.com/government/security/secret-mission-trump-reveals-100m-barrels-oil-have-cleared-strait-hormuz
The Althouse blog is full of Democrat operatives and woke types who do nothing but trash President Trump and carry water for the Iranian regime. Just try to be objective and don't get sucked in by their leftist nonsense. Trump's foreign policy has been a resounding success. This one will turn out fine too.
I certainly hope so!
Economic destruction of Iran when we do this. They will have to surrender.
Churchill is supposed to have said: "In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."
Is Trump being too aggressive or too restrained?
We need a poll...daily.
Jaq wrote (9:17): “It’s like we live in the Matrix, blinded from reality by a flood of propaganda that rains down on us like those glyphs at the start of that movie.” Projection abides in the hearts and tiny minds of the lefties. “We?” LOL!
Trump is moving into Bush-Cheney territory. Adopt Bush foreign policy, get Bush poll numbers.
"Bush-Cheney territory"
My favorite part of a two week war is the first two decades.
It is inconceivable that Trump has not been advised by folks who know that he cannot make a deal with Shia taqiyya people. There was no uprising by the unarmed population. Therefore it’s time to get on with the taking of Kharg Island, etc., which has likely been the plan all along. No need to keep making nice for the mediaswine and the Euroweenies.
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Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
bagoh20 write: “Trump has shown he's not restrained by what people will say about his actions and policies.”
President Trump will be remembered as the most influential and greatest President in modern American history. Yet another groundbreaking initiative, yet another historic victory is coming for America. We are witnessing a legacy of strength, prosperity, and diplomacy that will stand for generations. Thank you President Trump!
6/11/26, 9:30 AM
Exactly correct.
I can already hear the pitter patter of the IGRC's Little feat as they quickly run back in abject terror to the negotiating table
Jaq says, "So far in this war, time has shown Trump to be a bald faced liar."
Yes, because in war, truthfulness of intentions and objectives is paramount, particularly if you want to have any hope of garnering your political opponents' praise.
Shame on the US for creating a man who never was. They should have told the Nazis the man never was - he wasn't an actual person - lest Roosevelt's political opponents accused him of being untruthful.
A few other guesses as to why what seems to be happening is happening:
1. Cease fire was primarily about rearming.
2. Pakistan has been involved in talks. Pakistan is not an honest broker. Pakistan has nukes.
3. Going Dresden on the deal is not polite.
4. Even with an election looming, Trump has more time than the mullahs do, or so he believes.
Of those options, don't sleep on the importance of #2.
The Althouse blog is possibly witnessing a miracle of sorts: Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ (aka TinyEE®, aka Rich, aka Chunk, aka kak) is undergoing a transition of activity from his brain stem to the prefrontal cortex.
Get out of the sense dep tank
I think thats largely true
I havent see he uses his brain atem
"...undergoing a transition of activity from his brain stem to the prefrontal cortex."
Possibly a change of employer.
What size flag?
Yuuge enough to bring down power lines
Pakistan @ 40 million is second largest Shia population after Iran
Field Marshal Asim Munir is mediator between Iran and USA
He could be transitioning between Shia and Sunni
I meant to say ::::: yuuge enough to bring down gas prices
Reuters: “Trump says US will hit Iran 'very hard,' take control of energy infrastructure“
Boots on the ground, here we go again.
YouTube: Single Gun Theory — Metaphysical
Biden got the US involved in war fighting Iran backed Hamas in Gaza, then Iran backed Hezbollah in Lebanon, then Iran backed Houthis in Yemen. The issue is not WMDs, it’s all the conflicts of my lifetime. USSR backed Cuba, USSR/China backed N. Vietnam and Korea, etc..
Iranian coastline is Guns of Navarone terrain
Thats the analogy i thought
"The issue is not WMDs, it’s all the conflicts of my lifetime."
It is if you're talking about oil...the planet's pre-eminent economic Weapon of Max Disruption.
It is if you're talking about oil...the planet's pre-eminent economic Weapon of Max Disruption.
Net Zero, Baby, Problem solved. Easy Peasy.
Recently I learned: "The Romans utilized temporary dictators as an emergency measure. During severe military or civic crises, one of the consuls would appoint a dictator with absolute authority to swiftly resolve the situation. Once the crisis passed—or their strict six-month term limit expired—the dictator was expected to immediately resign."
Caesar wanted to be permanent dictator
"Based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United States of America, cancelled the scheduled strikes and bombings against Iran this evening. Discussions and final points have been, in both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved, including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, and others. The Naval Blockade will remain in full force and effect until this Transaction is finalized — Time and place of the signing to be announced shortly.
DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"
The latest kinetics seems to have smacked the IRGC/mullahs in the head again.
Trump said the blockade stays until the agreement is signed. I imagine we’ll still be in the neighborhood though until the nuclear dust is dealt with thoroughly.
"Net Zero, Baby, Problem solved. Easy Peasy."
Always nice meeting a fellow optimist anxiously awaiting sunrise from the West.
For the 37th time we are told that a deal is imminent.
Always nice meeting a fellow optimist anxiously awaiting sunrise from the West.
Why else would I check the pictures on this Blog every morning?
🤔Hmmmm.... who was it who predicted Trump would announce a new cease fire and tell us that a deal was very close" by the end of the week? Think, think, think. Which one of us knew exactly what would happen?
Hint: not Bagoh or Achilles. Derp.
It doesn't take much to be smarter than the retards that read Althouse.
Caesar wanted to be permanent dictator
That is a slander of a great man.
Caesar wanted to restore the strength of the Republic and give up power to newly elected consuls as soon as it was safe to do so. He only crossed the Rubicon because his rivals and enemies in Rome were already scheming against him, with a conspiracy to use the Roman equivalent of lawfare to do what the Deep State scum did to Trump under Biden - the difference being, the Roman version would have involved torture and death, so he really had no choice. He refused a royal crown three times! But his rivals figured the fact that his fans and followers loved him enough to offer him the crown was reason enough to murder him.
History could have been much different without the assassination of Caesar. There might have been a Roman Republic mission to the moon a thousand years ago.
It isn’t aimed at me, it’s aimed at people who might begin to think for themselves.
That sounds like a bit of a self-own, doesn't it?
"So 'discussions' have been approved. That doesn't sound like an agreement. But there is 'this Transaction.' That too doesn't sound like an agreement, and yet it is something that can be 'finalized' and signed, which does sound like an agreement."
"I will keep 'truthing' until your morale improves. Raise the flog!" - Trump
Groundhog Day 2, coming to a theater near you.
Trump says he's canceled Iran strikes, adds potential deal-signing 'to be announced shortly' ~ FOX News
Like clockwork
Probably not the first time he’s promised something “very hard tonight” and failed to deliver.
"...Pakistan @ 40 million is second largest Shia population after Iran..."
That statement is a little misleading, I think.
"The country has over 231.69 million adherents of Islam, making it the world's second-largest country by Muslim population. 85–90% of Pakistanis follow Sunni Islam, with 10–15% following Shia Islam. About 97% of Pakistanis are Muslims. " (wiki)
The overwhelming majority of Pakistanis are Sunni. Shia Muslims do not rule the country.
Stop talking and DO
"but I'm confident the restraint is not due to weakness, but rather strategy and long term outcome in the bigger geopolitical balance."
A lot of people operate on the "I don't understand what Trump is doing, so he's an idiot" principle.
A lot of people operate on the "I don't understand what Trump is doing, so he's an idiot" principle.
A lot of other people are operating under the principle that you are an idiot. (Trump is one of those people.)
Those people are correct.
Not only do we understand what Trump is doing: we can predict it! Derp!
I prefer the wisdom of DJT to prevail in the decisions of this conflict and laugh at the many here who are commie second-guessing. These people, a few months after Pearl Harbor, would have been strung up by patriots with this kind of rooting for the enemy.
For the 37th time we are told that a deal is imminent.
And for the 37th time, have you ever considered Trump knows a helluva lot more of what's going on than you do?
Not only do we understand what Trump is doing: we can predict it! Derp!
Says the fuckhead who just earlier in this thread boasting about predicting something and then called everybody else a retard.
Do YOU ever stop to think Trump knows a helluva lot more of what's going on than you do?
Hmmm?
I note that a lot of people here who call Trump an absolute idiot, also refer Iran as though it was a country with a functioning central government - as in "Iran will do this" or "Iran has played Trump again." The likely reality is that there is no cohesive functioning central government in Iran. It strikes me also that Tump may be shredding the internal cohesiveness of what is attempting to function as a central government, and couldn't care less that his U.S. detractors are counting the number of times he "lied" or "said the deal was done." Or whatever. I read one commenter saying that Trump saying that "A deal is imminent" is likely a move to cause internal strain between the various parties and factions in Iran. I don't know. But I do know that Trump's detractors don't know either.
Hassayamper: "History could have been much different without the assassination of Caesar. There might have been a Roman Republic mission to the moon a thousand years ago."
Really? Wouldn't the Republic have continued to rely on slavery? And slavery is an innovation-killer. One of the answers to my favorite historical questions - why wasn't the printing press invented much earlier - is because the Romans had slave scribes to do all the copying. No incentive to come up with labor-saving devices.
And any improved efficiency from a continued Republic, fighting for family and honor rather than fear, would have been used to conquer even more ground and take even more slaves, exacerbating the innovation-killing effect.
But you apparently have thought about this. What's your counterhistorical chain of events from a surviving Caesar to Luna Nostra? CC, JSM
I note that a lot of people here who call Trump an absolute idiot, also refer Iran as though it was a country with a functioning central government
I believe there is truth to this. We don't know who is in charge or whether anyone is actually in charge. How the fuck do you negotiate with a failed state? The official Iranian channels say they have no clue what Trump is even talking about regarding a peace deal. So is Trump making it all up to sooth the markets or is the US negotiating with scam artists who have no actual authority in Iran? Who the fuck knows.
It ain't good. I do not know where the breakdown occurred but I know its well past the promised 6-weeks so we know with certainty there was a breakdown. You can try to polish this turd how ever you like but it ain't good.
"I read one commenter saying that Trump saying that "A deal is imminent" is likely a move to cause internal strain between the various parties and factions in Iran. I don't know. But I do know that Trump's detractors don't know either."
A lot of them don't seem to consider the possibility that his public comments serve a purpose known to Trump himself and might not be intended for consumption by his detractors.
Or he's an idiot. You decide.
But remember- many of those in the "He's an idiot" camp also act like they think he's an evil genius when it suits their purposes.
Some would say this administaration painted themselves into a corner with the war on Iran. But Donald J Trump's dementia is consistent. He's always making big statements and then weaving the other direction.
That makes him worthy of our adoration and worship. Biden's dementia was inconsistent. One minute he's helping to pass infastructure bills and the next he's frozen and drooling. Trump is consistently sleeping and lashing out incoherently when the situation calls for it. Thats why he's our man forever.
MAGA!
Weird war. Our team is undefeated, Iranians are going about their business without much threat of harm and the Iranian military is demonstrating that Chinese and Rooski gear kinda sucks.
There’re a couple of problems with this - you get to thinking war is ‘easy’ and when you poke the bear you really ought to kill the bear. We’ll see…
Jaq said...
I’m sure we will be taking their oil in self defense, that’s the ticket.
Why did the Iranians have to take back their country in 1979 from the Mossad and CIA control, causing this 50 year war? You can always spot an evil country by the fact that they are sitting on oil we don’t control.</b.
You need to move to Europe.
You do not belong in the United States. You are too pure and good to live among us wretched souls.
Just get the fuck out you piece of shit.
NKP said...
Weird war. Our team is undefeated, Iranians are going about their business without much threat of harm and the Iranian military is demonstrating that Chinese and Rooski gear kinda sucks.
It only sucks compared to our stuff.
D.D. Driver said...
Not only do we understand what Trump is doing: we can predict it! Derp!
How come you have been wrong about everything then?
Iran was out of the fight months ago. Nobody even knows who is going to sign the agreement for them.
Trump has drug this out long enough to end any thought of BRICS currency and to make sure everyone is buying oil with dollars.
Now there wont be any question. The dollar is the reserve currency and the globalist effort to take out the dollar is finished. The EU capitulated a few days ago.
I bought gas for 3.50$ today. Trump can wrap this up just in time for driving season to end in September and to start seeing < $3 gas by midterms.
The Abraham accords will probably still be in the news around then and Ukraine will be joining the EU after Russia secures their land bridge.
Not only do we understand what Trump is doing: we can predict it!
It seems that way because an algorithm knows you like content that tells you Trump has done something stupid and evil. The thing that you can actually predict is that you will see more content every day that tells you Trump did something and it was stupid and evil.
"It's fascinating that Trump is the one being more restrained than a lot of us want."
Why is it fascinating? You just typed out a bunch of words that claim DJT is doing the most sensible thing because he knows stuff you don't know.
What's so fascinating about a POTUS sensibly acting on info that the POTUS has but the public doesn't have? You just stated that he is being more restrained because, obviously (according to you), he has perfect non-public justifications for his being restrained.
Nothing fascinating about that. DJT is just being right about everything, as usual. According to folks like Bag that don't suffer from TDS.
Yep, Achilles, keep denying the inflation numbers and decreasing oil stockpile.
RideSpaceMountain said...
"So 'discussions' have been approved. That doesn't sound like an agreement. But there is 'this Transaction.' That too doesn't sound like an agreement, and yet it is something that can be 'finalized' and signed, which does sound like an agreement."
"I will keep 'truthing' until your morale improves. Raise the flog!" - Trump
He is going to keep talking until Merz, Starmer, and Macron are removed from power and/or effectively neutered.
National Rally, AfD and Reform are all leading the polls.
"President Trump will be remembered as the most influential and greatest President in modern American history."
Absolutely! We Americans of this time and place are incredibly lucky to have 2 of the Great Men of History- Donald Trump and Elon Musk- working together for the security of our future and for the benefit of all mankind.
Yep, Achilles, keep denying the inflation numbers and decreasing oil stockpile.
Um. What?
https://en.macromicro.me/collections/19/mm-oil-price/181/us-oil-demand-supply
If you are referring to the Strategic Oil Reserve, that gets drawn down when prices are high, and refilled when they are low. As they will be shortly--see the supply and demand chart.
Current US gas price--without state and local taxes--is $3.06 and dropping fast. Why is that?
boatbuilder said...
Current US gas price--without state and local taxes--is $3.06 and dropping fast. Why is that?
I know your question was rhetorical but I want to rub salt in the wound.
Iranian and Venezuelan oil are going on the open market now. China is going to have to buy oil with US dollars. That means the supply of oil available to people using US dollars is far higher and the price for oil bought with US dollars will be lower.
Chinese military equipment will no longer be a substitute for buying oil. The Chinese will pay dollars for oil and the US will pay fewer dollars for oil because more is available for dollars.
It is a really simple concept. The price of gasoline will see decade lows and it is because Trump has dealt with the structural problem that kept our gas and oil prices higher than they should have been.
boatbuilder said...
“If you are referring to the Strategic Oil Reserve, that gets drawn down when prices are high, and refilled when they are low.”
It also gets drawn down when a Democrat is in office and wants to keep gas prices artificially low for the upcoming elections.
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