Let's just start with the way things look at Elon's place:
There's so much to say about this story. It's so complicated that I expect most who write on the story to accept and amplify either the GOP or the Democratic Party's approach. That's important but wearisome for those of us who want to get the facts straight and to criticize everyone who deserves it. I'm not going to blog in proportion to the importance of this story. That's not what I do.
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Many of us on the NON-left have known about SPLC's treachery for decades.
That this corrupt group of leftist liars will be prosecuted makes us happy. Justice.
SLPC is slimy more competent version of Smollett.
Don't forget Act Blue.
The entire Democrat machine was a vehicle to funnel money foreign money and US taxpayer money to a traitorous foreign army trying to take the Unite States down.
They are just pure thieves and traitors.
Indeed, the ActBlue story is likely bigger.
The problem with American politics is that the perfidy of the Progressives takes more than 4 years to unwind, and the Great Unwinding ties everyone up - nothing constructive gets done because of it, and the shade it throws provides shelter for the insincere to pretend they are powerless.
I'm not going to blog in proportion to the importance of this story. That's not what I do.
You mean blog about the fact that the Democrat Party has been a foreign run conspiracy to steal money from US taxpayers and ship it out of the country?
Or that the Democrat and Neocon Republican party were always serving foreign interests and are essentially all traitors who were taking foreign money and stealing from American taxpayers?
When I was looking at the headlines yesterday, most were talking about the existence of paid informants. WaPo's was that the SPLC "overpaid" informants.
The problem with the SPLC was that anybody listened to them. Otherwise it's just free speech, maybe with defamation problems. They've declared everybody I listen to to be racist, long ago. Then they get debanked when banks listen to them.
The problem is the debanking.
A probable Whitmer-conspiracy. An Obama-fueled gun runner.
That's important but wearisome for those of us who want to get the facts straight and to criticize everyone who deserves
…that’s a healthy attitude though it’s quite discouraging that the opening remarks are not about the accusations in the suit but rather the shaping…
That's important but wearisome for those of us who want to get the facts straight and to criticize everyone who deserves it. I'm not going to blog in proportion to the importance of this story. That's not what I do.
…and that’s discouraging as we all know it’s dangerous to stand between you and your keyboard whenever the President cusses…
The Left is ashamed of NOTHING. Everything is fair game when your goal is the destruction of the US of A.
Let the investigations, prosecutions and lawsuits rain down on these malicious corksoakers.
'm not going to blog in proportion to the importance of this story. That's not what I do.
No, your “cruel neutrality” means minimizing stories that deservedly make the left look bad and maximizing stories that make the right of center look bad. It’s been your pattern since 2008.
Leftist lies = a network of billionaire soros-cancer.
I hate the SPLC. It's a garbage, grifter organization. That said, I also hate lawfare and when fraud is found in brand new ways that have never been prosecuted before its a good indicator that you are looking at lawfare. Has anyone ever been prosecuted by the U.S. government for paying citizen informants?
BTW, Althouse, why do you care how Elon Musk “shapes” the issue? You’re a law professor; why aren’t you looking at the DON’e indictment itself?
All's fair in lust and abortion.
Jusr like the george floyd op that justified an epic of violence and chaos
Turns out, there were bad people on “both sides” of Charlottesville unrest.
Southern Poverty Law Center
I think the most cruelly neutral take on the SPLC activities would be to think they established certain operating practices when they were first formed, and those practices didn't change but were unconsciously repurposed over time.
Certainly I would not expect an anti-Klan group in the 1970s to advertise what they were going to be doing. Still, as noted by Steve Sailer and I'm sure others, the relative ambiguous
Southern
Poverty
Law
Center
produces initials extremely similar to
Student
Non-violent
Coordinating
Committee
and maybe more tellingly
Southern
Christian
Leadership
Conference
in an amazing coincidence.
I'm not seeing what is complicated about this story. Yet another Democrat Party organization has proven to be a corrupted criminal conspiracy. I'm not a braindead libtard or a Democrat Party cult member, so the Democrat Party excuses aren't tailored to persuade me and interest me only to the extent which it exposes the moral decay of those who uncritically accept such horseshit.
The SPLC couldn't find enough racism in America.
So they paid for false flags.
It is just an evil foreign entity and democrats just need to be shipped to Europe in mass.
When you call everything you dont like nazi like tpusa well we know where that ends
…that the headlines, not only here, are about the shaping of the story leads me to believe indictments will be the end of it. We simply do not prosecute Democrats for crimes committed in the name of their politics. Our democracy is a handicap tournament where lefties get to rig it…
There is a fair chance tge prosecution could succeed in alabama
It’s been your pattern since 2008.
‘I’m not going to help your side’
Several of the informants were also being paid while simultaneously being featured in SPLC publications — including on its public-facing “Extremist File” webpage — as members of the hate groups.
We've known for many years that the SPLC fundraises off fake accusations of racism, smearing legitimate groups with missions they don't like. It's hardly a leap to think that at least sometimes they cross that line and actually create racist incidents themselves.
What I'm curious to see (and I haven't seen yet) is if anyone defends them.
I'm touched by Ann's naive belief that there is a pea of objective truth under the many mattresses of partisan spin.
Sorry to go all post-modern, but there is no pea anymore. Everything is interpretation and spin.
D.D. Driver said... Has anyone ever been prosecuted by the U.S. government for paying citizen informants?
Is that what they're accused of doing?
D.D. Driver said...
Has anyone ever been prosecuted by the U.S. government for paying citizen informants?
That's not what they are being prosecuted for.
They are being prosecuted for claiming to their supporters their donations would be used to "dismantle" the hate groups they put on their infamous map while at the same, at least arguably, providing significant funding to those same groups. They are also being prosecuted for lying to financial institutions to disguise the source of funds moving through the accounts they created.
Using Project Veritas as an example, they claim their funds are used to obtain information and undercover recordings are usually done by people directly employed by the organization. In most cases that I'm aware of, media companies that pay for stories also do that above board directly from their own accounts, not via false fronts.
I'm touched by Ann's naive belief that there is a pea of objective truth under the many mattresses of partisan spin.
…a NYT and WaPo bitter clinger…
I smiled to read, for example, that "The Southern Poverty Law Center reckons there are now 700 hate organizations, with more than 100,000 members, the highest count for 20 years." This is a bit like quoting an opticians' trade association to the effect that more people need glasses now than ever before. Murmur a single sentence deviant in any way from left-liberal orthodoxy and you are very likely to find your website, or any periodical you work for, labeled a "hate organization" by the SPLC — this has actually happened to friends of mine.
- Derbyshire writing in 2004
Paying someone to be racist? Isn't that worse than racism?
ai : "While the term "paying someone to be racist" isn't a standard legal category, paying for acts of discrimination is often considered more severe than individual bias because it weaponizes financial power to scale or incentivize harm."
SPLC took donations - and spent those donations building fake "Extreme White Right Wing Supremacist" groups. Then the dutiful Soviet (D) press pointed at them as proof!
If you are not a good Nazi , er I mean Democrat - you will be placed on a list.
Everyone wants to tip toe around the fact that the SPLC was funded by rich liberals and its job was destroy those on the Right. Not "racists". That was the cover story. The excuse.
We have laws against racism. We have large numbers of government employees tracking violent violent racism. We don't need private, vigilante organizations like the ADL and the SPLC "fighting racism" by doxing and debanking People.
That their corruption was uncovered is good. But its hard for me to care that they were stealing rich people's money. Rich people who wanted to use Lawyers and PI's to destroy the lives of people they don't like.
From what I've read Trump signed an exec order (approved by our 600 District Court Judges) that you cant debank people for their religious/political views. No doubt because Trump was "debanked" by the liberal/leftist CEO who ran his bank.
And when some of the nazguls attack we have the usual pozsums distract groypers or boogaloo boys
$270k to an organizer for the Unite the Right rally is going to be really hard to wave away.
The ADL/SPLC are simply the tools of liberal rich billionaires. You saw that when the ADL organized a boycott of Elon Musk when he took over Twitter. Suddenly everyone from Chase Bank to Ford to Hersey's Chocolate was refusing to advertise. Then the President of the ADL met with the Elon Musk and reached an agreement. Advertising back on.
I wonder how much $$, rich pedophile Jeffrey Epstein gave to the SPLC or the ADL?
Southern Poverty Law Center ... I always thought the only poverty Morris Dees was interested in was avoiding it for himself.
I know a very smart and liberal lawyer in Omaha who worked for them. He got duped by the narrative.
Boomer libs hardest hit as I'm sure they have held this organization in the highest regards for 50 years. I could see this being dragged into a new D administration and charges dropped.
Of course, the SPLC and ADL only have power because 'muricans are so Goddamn stupid. Oh how they hate "racism" - even though they cant even tell you what it is - or isn't. Same with Antisemitism. Or why saying the "Wrong words" should result in punishment. Or why sayng expressing the same sentiment against white, or non-Jews is OK.
Again, trying to understand their "Thinking" is simply impossible. Just say "racism" and they're like Pavlov's Dog.
Ken Gardner
@KenGardner11
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It remains a total mystery why our politics have gotten so much worse since electing a professional community agitator POTUS.
https://x.com/KenGardner11/status/2046805869531156484?s=20
Patel alleged SPLC funds were used by extremist groups to “facilitate the commission of state and federal crimes.”
Why weren’t any extremists charged with those supposed crimes? The indictment doesn’t allege any extremist crimes, except for possibly stealing documents -- from extremist groups.
Patel himself cut off “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC less than a year ago. So he knows SPLC was feeding the FBI intel on extremist groups -- that is, seeking to “dismantle” these groups, just as they told donors. Nothing in the indictment shows they misled donors.
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1974111441671123293
The indictment doesn’t mention that SPLC provided intelligence from its informant program to law enforcement/FBI to dismantle extremist groups. But that fact, which will surely come out in discovery, undermines the entire premise the DOJ/FBI case.
In general, informants are unreliable (to the truth). Naturally, paid or extorted informants are even less reliable to be telling the truth. This isn't new info. The purpose of these type of informants is to please the group that is receiving the information and the groups know that. Law enforcement uses them as a matter of course to get search warrants based on untruthful info. Somehow, there seems to be very few repercussions for doing so.
Otto might be stupid enough to believe this folderall
Like billy with those 'genocide' pompoms
Kimberlins justice through music project was a smaller venture
Nice spin, Bich. Like the Whitmer Fed-napping, it's easy to provide information on the activities of organizations you control, and not particularly surprising the people agitating for other to commit crimes don't get punished if they are aligned with the political goals of the Feds.
Kimberlin the speedway bomber, who fooled the suprems court into releasing him
“Imagine a leftist group with ties to Antifa puts conservatives and Christians on a “hate map” with defunct chapters of the Ku Klux Klan, and that map inspires an act of terrorism and would go on to contribute to the demonization of Turning Point USA ahead of the Charlie Kirk assassination.”
Had the SPLC just ask the Feds to declare racists an endangered specie, they wouldn't find themselves in this hot mess.
But Noooo. They had to run a scam... like some Somali Minnesotans. Worse, The SPLC soaked rich donors; Somali Minnesotans weren't bold enough to try that.
Barack Obama
@BarackObama
“Congratulations, Virginia! Republicans are trying to tilt the midterm elections in their favor, but they haven’t done it yet. Thanks for showing us what it looks like to stand up for our democracy and fight back.”
Thoughts from former president Malevolent BIG Zer0, aka King Shameless
We have seen a similar pattern across the pond with stockport with debanking and lawfare against farage cummingd et al
Jussie Smollett was not a one off.
“That's not what they are being prosecuted for.”
No, it’s what AP News whispered in DeeDee’s earbud
Isn't odd that no one actually knows an actual "Right Wing White Supremacist!"
they must be invented - so the corrupt left/corrupt FBI left- have a boogaloo-man.
Jackson Lahmeyer
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Nobody in American politics has benefited more from racial division than Barack Obama and the Democrat Party.
After Charlottesville, Obama posted the most-liked tweet in Twitter history at the time.
But now we know the SPLC funded the very white supremacist groups behind Charlottesville. They pumped money into a fringe movement that barely existed and manufactured a national crisis.
Democrats turned it into their biggest cultural weapon of the decade. Viral posts like this one. Millions of likes. Years of ammunition against
@POTUS
.
The left rode would ride that manufactured outrage through the midterms and the rest of President Trump's first term.
https://x.com/JacksonLahmeyer/status/2046938672532959411?s=20
Scott Adams was on this since Charlottesville
Well, obviously those KKK Grand Exalted Lizards and Imperial Whachamadoos are livin' and breathin' in da Souf, and they ain't gettin' the income they were accustomed to in the past, and it's in the name, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER... so what's the beef?
"Jussie Smollett was not a one off."
It goes back at least to Tawana Brawley. She had the excuse of being only 15, but Al Sharpton jumped in to fan the flames.
Kak-a-bitch(D) - you are not asking the correct questions.
The SPLC were using funds to create and fund the very "White Supremacist HATE!" groups they were decrying.
There is a viral video waiting for Nick Sherley to produce.
"We are coming to you live, in front of a dilapidated building that according to the SPLC houses 35 Hate Groups. When we went inside, we found a Mail Box farm."
Them green silk sheets cost money, ya know?
How far back does this go, was tom metzger the goat back tgem when he was on geraldos show
That's not what they are being prosecuted for.
They are being prosecuted for claiming to their supporters their donations would be used to "dismantle" the hate groups they put on their infamous map while at the same, at least arguably, providing significant funding to those same groups. They are also being prosecuted for lying to financial institutions to disguise the source of funds moving through the accounts they created.
Let's see the "significant funds." So far all we are hearing is about payments to informants. This stinks. It smells like prosecuting Trump for "misrepresenting" the value of his properties to his bank (who didn't care). The Trump "fraud" prosecution was lawfare and so is this.
I am supposed to believe (with a straight face) that this about "protecting" the stupid lefties that donate to SPLC? Is there any evidence that the donors even *care* that SPLC pays informants? Shouldn't that matter? How can they be "defrauded" if they got what they paid for? This is not about protecting lefties from fraud, its about shutting down a viewpoint that you don't like.
I am all for suing SPLC for civil *defamation*. Criminal fraud? That is just lawfare.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/whistleblowers/ided-witness-2-helped-ukraine-whistleblower-worked-strzok-wrote-2016
Narratively speaking, this is very similar to MAGA’s favorite conspiracy theory about January 6 -- namely, that the FBI used informants to dupe Trump supporters into attacking the U.S. Capitol. It’s a way of deflecting moral responsibility for the extremism of their own side.
There is a very deep well of credulity on the American right for such conspiracism. And indeed rightwing media is abuzz today with the claim that the SPLC is the supposed real source of white supremacist violence and extremism. ExTwitter is filled with such nonsense.
One thing that's very clear: cognitive dissonance among extremists is very real. They’ll simultaneously celebrate an action while blaming their perceived opponents for it: “The 2020 election was stolen, January 6th wasn’t that bad, but the deep state did it!”
It's gotta be genuine mulberry-fed silk. Ya'll don't wanna go cavortin' around no fiery cross wearin' rayon... no siree.
Trump should tweet that we shouldn't be too hard on the SPLC because there are some very fine people working there.
By "Patel alleged" Kak means "the grand jury indicted them for."
And I absolutely love triple-DDDummy completely missing the fraud because it's Trump's DOJ. "Akshally it's not illegal to go undercover."
Obviously you don't live in California!
I really appreciate the symmetry that the KKK, founded by Democrats, is still being financed by Democrats all these years later. Man if schools ever start teaching kids to read this'll look bad for the democrats.
Thank you, Elon. Seems maybe you keeping an interest in the Doge Boys.
Q: What’s the difference between TinyShortschwantzE®, RJWard, DeeDeeDrivel and Flying Pigs?
A: The letter F.
I'm hoping one of the exhibits for the case is the invoice for the tiki torches in Charlottesville.
Don’t get bogged down in the political flotsam. Keep your eye on the banking fraud. Payments through cut-outs and sham organizations to disguise where the money went and what it was for. Has a sort of Hillary and Biden flavor to it, doesn’t it ?
Redistributive change schemes.
It's often said a skilled prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.
In this case, picture a three-hundred pound hog between two slices of rye with mustard.
Democratics assume anyone not dutifully loyal to their party - they are all racists and white supremacists.
It's a lie that works for them. Disgusting.
DD will always make excuses for her corrupt party.
A fetus... feature of DEIst philosophy is to bray handmade tales and tell them selfies what good Democrazis they are.
Many years ago, I was told that Morris Dees was a very smart man with a law degree, the ethics of a door-to-door Bible salesman, and a plan. We are seeing the plan be exposed to the light of day, even though we had to wait a lifetime for the unveiling. The stakes in this are higher than they appear. Stay safe, Kash.
"I am supposed to believe (with a straight face) that this about "protecting" the stupid lefties that donate to SPLC? Is there any evidence that the donors even *care* that SPLC pays informants? Shouldn't that matter?"
Next up, DD. will decry the prosecution of Al Capone for tax evasion.
The key part of the indictment, and the part the mainstream media went to great lengths to avoid even mentioning, is the wire fraud and money laundering charges:
If I grant the claim, for purposes of argument, that the SPLC is telling the truth that the payments were to informants in order to dismantle the groups infiltrated, why did it create fake companies and bank accounts in order to pay them? I can't think of any logical and legal reason to create such round-about ways of payment. Were I to do that, for example, to pay the guy mowing my lawn, I would be committing a felony. It is certain that the DoJ has SPLC dead to rights on the wire fraud- the paper trail will undeniable. I guess the SPLC could try to demonstrate any single example of its work funding members of these groups in order to legally dismantle them but I did a pretty deep search yesterday and came up blank on such deconstructions- everything I found were of the kind of the SPLC literally paying the people they were revealing publicly as members of rightwing organizations. In other words, the people being revealed as right wing extremists were on the SPLC payroll.
They got Fritz Kuhn on fraud and other financial charges, not for being a Nazi schmuck.
We've got Pete Hegseth at the Department of Defense, and we've got Tulsi Gabbard, who is the DNI Director of National Intelligence and Kash Patel at the FBI.
Everybody, including in the Republican Party, was questioning their credentials for their jobs. I don't think there was anyone in the Senate, on the Republican side, who would have come forward and said: Kash Patel is uniquely qualified to run the FBI. Pete Hegseth is uniquely qualified to run the Department of Defense. And Tulsi Gabbard is uniquely qualified to run the country's intelligence.
All three of them have something in common, they have absolute loyalty to Trump and promises made to him to do things that Donald Trump wanted. And that loyalty, combined with the fact that none of those three people has the kind of experience you would normally find in a cabinet member in that position, makes them indebted to Donald Trump. They have their jobs because of their loyalty to Trump.
They do not have their jobs because of past experience, which qualifies them to do their jobs. And Trump knows that. So he has chosen people who he can put in those positions, who know that they are only the head of the FBI, the head of the Department of Defense, the head of DNI, because they are loyal to him, which gives him an enormous amount of power over them. That's why they have their jobs.
This should not be difficult. The SPLC has been a grift machine selling hate for decades now. There have been numerous research articles and interviews with Mark Potok, showing how nastily corrupt he is, how he loves to use his position to just label anyone on the right, grouping such organizations as Turning Point USA in a par with the Ku Klux Klan- and getting away with it.
To me they are like the UN. A possibly good idea, that gets money coming in based on a good idea and hope, and then turns into a giant grift machine that can only keep making money if it keeps making people think they are doing good work. In this case that means finding more hate groups. So, even as they ran out of real hate groups, they never ran out of conservatives. And so, anyone on the right, any group on the right, had the high possibility of showing up on Potok's Hate Map.
They got away with it for years. Then finally...more and more people affiliated with the org started coming out and stating what many knew. There are scores of articles dating back over 20 years on how they operate. If one is interested, just ask Chat or Grok for some direction.
I think Progressives kind of consider Alabama as their experimental laboratory - the dark heart of the Deep South, where racism and white supremacy is genetically preserved by marrying your first cousin, or optimally, your sister.
This seems to be where they try out their most outrageous projects, like the SPLC, or the stealth campaign against Roy Moore for Senate, where he was accused of stalking underage girls for sex. I wonder which thought-leaders within the Progressives conceived these projects.
They might have thought that basing themselves in Deep Red territory like Alabama would be good camouflage, to use their base location as protection-by-association, but getting their court cases heard there probably isn't going to work out very well.
They've got a huge pot of money, and tying that up in legal battles means that Democrats won't get to spend it on midterms. Almost like it was timed, you know?
Let's let the record develop. I never understood where the abundance of SPLC's prototypical neonazis was coming from, other than prison-related gangs.
BTW, the lawyers for the SPLC are going to do very well.
It was the cointelpro model, which they always told us was bad
when fraud is found in brand new ways that have never been prosecuted before its a good indicator that you are looking at lawfare. Has anyone ever been prosecuted by the U.S. government for paying citizen informants?
Money-laundering has been a vigorously prosecuted crime for many decades. So has fraud.
I wonder how the timid old yentas diligently sending a hundred bucks a month to SPLC, to protect them against the very people SPLC is funding, feel about this.
The Case of Fritz Kuhn is a laughable example of the bias of Judges and the Law. Kuhn and many of his defendents were stripped of their naturalized citizenship in 1943 because they supposedly had committed "Fraud" when they agreed to become US Citizens and swore "attachment to the principles of the Constitution of the United States and favorable disposition to the good order and happiness of the United States"
Of course, using that standard, would've resulted in every naturalized American member of Communist Party USA being stripped of their citizenship. But of course only a handful of "Nazis" during WW 2 were treated so.
After all Uncle Joe and the Commies were our "friends". so what if they believed in "the dictatorship of the proletariate"? or Spied for the USSR? FDR didn't have any problems with commies, he was telling the NKVD that the FBI was bugging the soviet embassy and having backdoor talks with Browder in 1944.
It fascinates me that the Althouse commentariat is so much more conservative than Althouse. That speaks well for Althouse's open mindedness.
Its weird thing about 'muricans. Gulags and millions of dead killed by Communists don't seem to bother them. Bring it up and you'll get a blank stare. But talk about "fascists" and suddenly they're angry at hell (even 80 years later) at the Evil Nazis and burst into tears at the victims of fascism. Oh the humanity!
I don't know why there's such a difference in attitude. But no matter what you say, Americans just cant get upset about Communist crimes and atrocities. And never stop being upset at the Nazi ones.
Like you care about actual genocide, there have loads of frauds who enabled the communists in the media
If "conspiracism" and conspiracy theories are common, it's because there are so many conspiracies, or because the ways government functions are so conspiratorially. That doesn't mean that everything can be explained away by conspiracy theories, but there are usually some backstage machinations that aren't covered in the mainstream media.
Still, I've long assumed that online "right-wing extremist" forums were so closely monitored by the authorities as to be almost government agencies. Post something and they have your email address and eventually more about you. The FBI may have been in the same business as the SPLC. Haven't they been cooperating for years, or is that the ADL?
Hoover was a little sloppy in how he handled the leftists which were supported by the infrastructure evealed by the reece commitee
The splc was picking doj and dhs personnel
The same side that has "fact checkers" also falls for every left-wing conspiracy theory. The weird thing about right wing conspiracy theories is they keep proving true. We told you they were Feds. In fact they were Fed "infiltrators" paid for by SPLC. That's how Wray could say they were not paying the plants.
We told you the "perfect phone call" impeachment was a hoax. Now that's tumbled out of Eric Cimarella's [?] closet too, catching IG Mike Atkinson in the process.
We also said (although berenson and taibbi were not right wing) that covid was overblown and lockdowns were useless, that the floyd death was legitimate use of force etc
What's the big deal? The Harlem Globetrotters pay the Washington Generals too.
Admit it, MAGA: if Tony Dokoupil did Whiskey Friday interviews with Kash Patel and Pete Hegseth, you would watch.
This is a walking talking paying example of Fen's Law.
There's a lot of sizzling and smoke, but we haven't seen the steaks broiling on the Weber yet. Althouse knows how to get you people hot and bothered, riled up ready to rumble. Stay anxious, my friends. It means you care. You really really care.
’I guess I’m going to have to explain this like I’m talking to a four-year-old, but the SPLC is not a law enforcement agency. The fact that the DOJ pays and uses informants to investigate crimes is not, in fact, relevant at all to what happened here. Yet, you’ve got Democrat Rep. Daniel Goldman (NY-10), ABC News, USA Today, the AP, and many others all running with this line that these were just payments to “informants.”
How exactly is allegedly paying someone who helped organize transportation to a neo-nazi rally just paying an “informant? What were they informing on? To who? About what? For what reason? That doesn’t even make any sense. The SPLC can’t indict anyone. They have no jurisdiction to investigate criminal activity, nor would they need “informants” to be able to say the Ku Klux Klan is bad.’
—— Bonchie @RedState
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2026/04/22/the-democrat-lie-about-the-splc-indictment-has-been-formed-and-now-theyre-running-with-it-n2201558
Howard’s arrogant cynicism is matched only by his total bumfuzzlement.
Eric Cinderella, (MJB) Wolf… get it right! 😁
Nontrivial probability that our tax dollars were used to pay the Nazis.
According to GROK, SPLC is a 501(c)(3) organization. At the very least, wouldn't these little manoeuvrings make them indictable for tax fraud?
@bagoh20 posted: "This is a walking talking paying example of Fen's Law."
Bingo. Why innovate when you can simply replicate? The opp works until the guilt runs dry. Dees just found the deepest well to drill into. If the news won't deliver what you need, make some news. Always maintain plausible deniability. AI tools are good at drilling through that plausible deniability.
what happened to the Kohl's khaki brigade?
The leftist/ hack D- Media/ Dem party talking points are out.
Reality -
SPLC acted like the FBI.
"That's important but wearisome for those of us who want to get the facts straight and to criticize everyone who deserves it."
That's a reasonable way to approach this story.
Here's a good place to start with the fact garnering.
So what are the penalties for violating 18 U.S.C. § 1014?
"shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both"
I really appreciate the symmetry that the KKK, founded by Democrats, is still being financed by Democrats all these years later.
Almost certainly, with your tax dollars and mine.
What other lefty organizations are doing this sort of thing? ADL? Tides? Arabella? Here's hoping Trump crucifies all of them, disgorges every penny, and puts their leaders and funders in prison for the rest of their lives. Soros is the one I really want to see go down.
They CANNOT bring charges in DC or any other Democrat rotten borough, though. There should be a nexus anywhere an American taxpayer's money is being diverted to neo-Nazis, or a Jew is being fraudulently frightened into coughing up money to the SPLC, so let's nail their hides to the wall in Alabama or Wyoming or Oklahoma.
"It's so complicated" Is it? More complicated than any other issue regularly discussed on the Althouse blog?
Mike Benz
@MikeBenzCyber
Replying to @MikeBenzCyber
No small irony in SPLC going from being partnered with the FBI to raided by the FBI in under 4 years...
“SPLC was not "indicted for paying sources". They were indicted for wire fraud and making false statements. Just tell us the truth! It's not that hard!”
PoIiMath
@politicalmath
A few reactions as this thing approaches the end of its first day of life:
1. I am surprised we haven't heard of this before. Didn't DOJ need to subpoena records? And wouldn't SPLC have tried to get the subpoenae quashed? Is the MDAL USAO already so tight under Trump that no one leaked? Not even the Grand Jurors?
2. Very ironic that the Dems try to criminalize Project Veritas and Nick Shirley for doing far less than SPLC is accused of.
3. Indicting just the SPLC itself as a legal person is an interesting tactic. Wonder why DOJ chose to go this route. Maybe they think a jury will be more likely to convict an organization than individual civil-rights "heroes?" Maybe the organization will just fold up after it spends too much money defending itself? Process as punishment works even better when it's not a human? CC, JSM
Only the most gullible of the Goobers, the indoctrinated MAGA nut jobs, the election deniers and flat earthers, those who genuflect to the Orange Doctor Jesus, would see the charges of the SPLC as legit when it’s actually nothing other than protecting supremacist groups that this administration has elevated to new heights.
How many different versions of this abuse and weaponization movie does the Basket of Gulibles have to watch before they get it?
Which facts does our hostess hope to obtain , and from whence shall she obtain them?
Fiscal affirmative actions of liberal fraud most progressive with conspiracies of Diversity most rabid. A veritable incorporation of an extremist, hate group with benefits.
Democrats lie about everything and are ashamed of absolutely nothing. Fuck ‘em.
RCOCEANII is here to remind us who the real victims are.
Don't ever change, little buddy.
“Ignorant funds”? They shipped hundreds of millions off to the Cayman Islands. Look at the resignations from this group within the last 2 years. The rats were jumping off a sinking ship.
If you’re on X I’d recommend a follow of a guy named “Shipwrecked”. Former lawyer in the Fed system.
Oops: SIGNIFICANT FUNDS
ANYONE making excuses for this disgusting group has turds for brains.
SPLC hoisted on their Fani while Walz 'n Karma-lic. Ironic.
My comment as said by a lawyer on X:
If you’re not clear on what’s going on with this SLPC thing, the federal prosecutors believe that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the SLPC was, among other things, funding the various organizations that it then cited to justify its own fundraising.
In other words, it’s accused of funding white supremacist groups, and then pointing to these white supremacist groups to get people to give it money. That’s not “paying informants.” That’s a massive fraud.
Well Narr, I just admire your ability to still hate Nazis after 80 years. Who else would even know who Fritz Kuhn was? I had to look him up.
when it’s actually nothing other than protecting supremacist groups that this administration has elevated to new heights. - Chuck
I was waiting for the stupidest take on this subject. I would've put money on Freder, but alas.
Now let's see who can surpass it.
“KASH PATEL JUST CRUSHED THE ATLANTIC INTO THE GROUND — THE LYING LEFT-WING RAG IS FORCED TO PRINT A FULL RETRACTION AFTER THEIR PATHETIC DEFAMATORY HIT PIECE BLEW UP IN THEIR FACES!
The desperate magazine that tried to smear the FBI Director is now crawling on its knees: they’re printing a retraction in the next edition and have already suspended the hack reporter on unpaid administrative leave while they scramble to “vet her sources.”
“It should never have gotten this far,” admitted Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Joe Barron.
“Our reporters are expected to conduct themselves with integrity.”
Translation: They got caught red-handed lying their asses off and are about to get sued into oblivion.
The outlet is expected to settle Patel’s massive lawsuit before it even reaches discovery — because they know the receipts will destroy them.”
Timing is everything.
The SPLC is just the beginning. Kash Patel has been a busy man.
I was seated at a dinner a few years ago with a lady who smugly told me that her biggest charitable gift every year was to the SPLC (on the order of $50,000). My response was, "To each his own."
I rather like the idea that she was giving to the KKK.
Pretty clear that the Democrats involved in this hate Republicans much more than they hate the KKK. A civil rights organization that funds the KKK. Tell me a single principle that Democrats reliably support above political power and it's associated grift.
Think about how many times these Democrats called people racists while they were funding the KKK.
"The SPLC is just the beginning. Kash Patel has been a busy man."
According to Dan Bongino, what's coming in the pipeline, like this SPLC charge, is the reason the Dems have chosen now to slandering Patel in the press.
It would be helpful to know how much money was needed to organize the Unite The Right event, how much was from the SPLC, and where the other money came from. The strange thing about the the images I saw from that event was that they had no connection to any sort of political activity I had previously seen. It was as though a novelist imagined them. Who were those right wing guys? Family Men? Ex-convicts? Educated? high school dropouts? I had no context other than right wing monsters, white skinned and clean cut. Still seems inexplicably weird.
Why haven't we ever gotten to the bottom of the Ray Epps story?
Mike Lee: “shameless bastards”
https://x.com/basedmikelee/status/2046821861300883715?s=46
That's fake, Eva.
Check the bottom right of the included photo.
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