April 2, 2026
"Earlier this year, Musk said that SpaceX was focused on building a 'self-growing city' on the moon..."
"... which could be achieved in less than 10 years. He said SpaceX planned to start building a city on Mars within five to seven years, 'but the overriding priority is securing the future of civilisation and the Moon is faster.'"
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"Earlier this year, Musk said that SpaceX was focused on building a 'self-growing city' on the moon..."
"... which could be achieved in less than 10 years. He said SpaceX planned to start building a city on Mars within five to seven years, 'but the overriding priority is securing the future of civilisation and the Moon is faster.'"
Because 10 is less than five to seven? This stock might be worth shorting.
That damn Elon Musk, he always takes longer to achieve the impossible than he says he will.
Elon’s a Feat Fan?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2039776866375213554?s=20
"Because 10 is less than five to seven?"
Musk said he was focused on building a city on the moon and that could be achieved in less than 10 years. He also said that he planned to start on one on Mars in 5-7 years. He didn't say "10 is less than five to seven."
"... which could be achieved in less than 10 years. He said SpaceX planned to start building a city on Mars within five to seven years, 'but the overriding priority is securing the future of civilisation and the Moon is faster'...."
Because 10 is less than five to seven? This stock might be worth shorting. ...."
A shining example of the NYT school of editorial excellence.
Akshuaaallly, 'less than 10' can indeed be less than 'within five to seven', but others should do the shorting math for themselves. SpaceX looks like a very interesting IPO to me.
tell me that AI is publishing such trash,
mars missions naturally take longer, because of the distance as well as lining up the trajectory of the mission,
but not much longer,
The real trick Musk has pulled off is to have agreed almost immediate index inclusion, this forces in the passives at IPO and gets it done at almost any valuation.
218x adjusted EBITDA. Here you go retail!
This will be the biggest rug pull in history.
This is so transparent.
• Listing rules changed to create a squeeze with Index buying
• Twitter debt bundled to allow backers of that failed takeover to have a profitable exit vs a loss on what they lent against
• Now Insiders are allowed to cash out during the initial hype
They are publicizing that this is a rug pull, but in doing so letting people believe that they can be insiders if they get in at IPO so buy the IPO at any price as it will 3x.
This will be written up in decades to come as a peak Bezzle moment.
Everyone will be a bag-holder, considering NASDAQ plans to relax index inclusion rules.
"Akshuaaallly, 'less than 10' can indeed be less than 'within five to seven',"
Even if it's not, so what? Not only is he talking about two different projects, he's talking about how long one (the moon) would take and how soon (Mars) the other would start.
Love and Rockets "Holiday on the Moon" (1986)
You can't get a suntan on the moon
But I wouldn't mind a holiday there
They say, you can't get a suntan on the moon
But I wouldn't mind a holiday there
All expenses paid, courtesy of NASA
Thank you, Mr. President for my holiday, Sir
I couldn't really say that I wish you were here
But thank you all the same, Sir
For my holiday
(Such a wonderful time)
Holiday, little lunar holiday
(Such a wonderful time)
Having such a wonderful time
Having such a wonderful time
Having such a wonderful time
As far as Mars is concerned, maybe it could be "populated," but for those willing to go, it'll be a one-way ride.
Nobody has even made it through the Van Allen belts yet.
Whether it takes 5, 7, or 10 years; I left the Shuttle program at cancellation in 2011, which was cancelled to shift budget priorities to the exploration mission and return to the moon. It is 15 years later, and NASA finally launched its first crew mission and NASA is only doing a free return trajectory around the moon. Meanwhile, SpaceX launched 19 crewed Dragons throughout that time, and last year, they launched 165 orbital missions.
WTF and I'm saying... please short SpaceX's IPO. Put every dime you have into making it a disaster. I'm counting on you to get that price as low as you can get it.
But that "index inclusion" thingie sounds like trouble. You mean, the indices are going to include SpaceX, or whatever he's calling it this week, and then my index funds are going to buy it while it's still being pumped? That sounds .... problematic.
Moonraker killed this idea for me
For instance next feb mars will be 63 million away then the following year 60
Elon Musk is unique at this time. He has that "vision thing" combined with the management ability to make huge things happen. Whether his practical abilities can match his visions remains to be seen, but in any case he goes further than anyone else. He has already reached magnificent, unprecedented heights (heh).
He has launched over 600 rockets into orbit, and over 10,000 satellites. Just let that sit in your mind. Its a cosmic, personally unimaginable number, especially if you have personally seen an orbital rocket launch. Its an almost an astronomical-scale concept vs the constraints of merely human comprehension.
I am not qualified (or in shape) at all to take that one way ride to Mars, I am not worthy. But if I were I would be glad, even eager to go even knowing it was one way. There would be no greater mortal glory.
When I was a teenager (mid 1950's to early '60's) I thought that in my lifetime I would have the opportunity to travel to the moon (at least) or Mars (perhaps). I'm now in my 80s, and it's not looking good for me. But perhaps my grandchildren . . . .
One of these days, Alice. Pow...
A whole host of films from mission to mars to the martian did not inspire much confidence
Rusalka - 'Song to the Moon' (Dvořák; Kristine Opolais, The Royal Opera)
Musicality.
Remember, Musk is claiming that the plan here is to build orbiting data centers. So although there is a pretty picture of a Moonbase on the box, this is actually part of the AI bubble.
Always great to read comments by 'experts' who tell us why Musk is an asshole, a shyster or a phony.
Yeah, the best selling car in the fucking world, one of the few cars built almost entirely in America, Thousands of rockets, satellites, earthlink hookups by the millions. Oh, and a company that can drill thru almost anything, anywhere.
Yeah, that pretty much defines a loser to me, LOL.
Envy and lust for others success makes people look even more stupid than I thought possible.
The late, tragic Janeckova, "Song to the Moon", Dvorak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WrXtnCX_9g
Part of the thrill of space exploration in the 60s was thinking that we could actually meet Martians and live on Venus. The shadow of knowing that even if there are other "intelligent beings" in the universe that we may never meet them hangs over the current Space Renaissance.
D. D. Harriman has entered the chat ...
"Part of the thrill of space exploration in the 60s was thinking that we could actually meet Martians and live on Venus. "
Even as a little kid at the time I never thought that. Huh.
I must have had a very practical mind.
I encourage Bich to short the IPO- he is sure to make as much money as he made on his call last Sunday for 30 year treasury rates permanently above 5% on Monday morning. What a fucking clown you are, Bich.
That seemed unlikely, specially with venus
Musk is a little strange, but he seems to have a way of getting things done and making things work. One thing I am absolutely certain of is that he is way smarter than all of those self-appointed geniuses at FT.
Mariner 2 found out that Venus was unlivable in 1962, but science fiction movies travelled a lot more and a lot faster than science news.
D. D. Harriman was Robert Heinlein's Man Who Sold the Moon. Nice piece of science fiction, I loved it as a kid. I wouldn't bet against Musk, but I seriously doubt any human will travel to Mars in the next 20 years. It would have to be prepped by robots first. I don't understand the point of having a city on the moon, unless it is to be used a weapon, as in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
I’m inclined to believe it’ll be humanoid robots on Mars for the longest time due to the limitations of human physiology .
“ Musk is a little strange, but he seems to have a way of getting things done and making things work. One thing I am absolutely certain of is that he is way smarter than all of those self-appointed geniuses at FT.”
Something I read the other day claimed that Musk’s “biographer” believed that Musk’s IQ was in the 98-100 range. Essentially in the lower midwit range. Indeed, the general consensus on the left seems to be that he isn’t really that bright. Certainly below their own midwit IQ. None of them, of course, having accomplished much, in comparison, nor made nearly as much money. I found it all to be hilarious.
Even if technically accurate, that 98-100 IQ estimate is more a critique of IQ testing, than anything else. I like the term “differently able”. My guess is that he is somewhere on the ASP/Aspergers. A prodigy in some areas, and weak in others (maybe verbal for Musk).
“ Twitter debt bundled to allow backers of that failed takeover to have a profitable exit vs a loss on what they lent against”.
The takeover seems to have been successful. Musk seems to have successfully taken over Twitter, and cut wasteful overhead (esp the leftist censors). Then lost users on the left, while picking them up on the right. And a number on the left, who had left, have been coming back, since one of its big competitors on the left, BlueSky has, apparently, become quite toxic, with its frequent purges for lack of political correctness of one type or another.
According to Musk, usage has grown from roughly 500 million visits a month to over 600 million, while new revenue streams have been introduced. With the significant reduction in salary expenses, this suggests a significant increase in gross profits before debt payments. But I doubt if we really know whether the purchase was financially successful, since it remains privately held.
The jealousy from isaacson is telling
I listen to both The History of the Americans and The Nations of Canada podcast in which a large part of the stories covers private companies attempting to establish colonies in the New World. Based on those examples, I wouldn't expect a positive return in the lifetime of the initial investor.
buwaya said...
"Part of the thrill of space exploration in the 60s was thinking that we could actually meet Martians and live on Venus. "
Even as a little kid at the time I never thought that. Huh.
I must have had a very practical mind."
Me too. Even as a teenager I wondered what we would learn.
I marveled at the F1 engine and all the manhours it took to build one. Now rocket engines equally as powerful are 3D printed and are half the size.
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