March 31, 2026

"Justices Reject Colorado Law Banning ‘Conversion Therapy’ for L.G.B.T.Q. Minors."

"Colorado and more than 20 other states restrict therapists from trying to change the gender identity or sexual orientation of L.G.B.T.Q. clients under the age of 18."

The NYT reports.
“Colorado may regard its policy as essential to public health and safety,” Justice Neil M. Gorsuch wrote for himself and seven other justices from across the ideological spectrum. “But the First Amendment stands as a shield against any effort to enforce orthodoxy in thought or speech in this country.” 
Only Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented, reading a lengthy summary of her opposition from the bench.

Here's the opinion: Chiles v. Salazar. 

The Times headline needs to be sharpened up. The Court didn't "reject" the whole "law." The opinion says that the therapist, Chiles, "stresses that she provides only talk therapy, employing no physical techniques or medications." And the case returns to the lower court to apply the correct standard — strict scrutiny.

Jackson's idea:

"The majority finds, at bottom, that Colorado likely cannot legislate to protect the children of its State if, by doing so, it happens to keep state-licensed healthcare providers from saying what they want to say to minors. And the majority’s holding means, in effect, that just because Chiles is a talk therapist—and not, say, a surgeon—a State can be prevented from incidentally imposing reasonable restrictions on the treatments she provides. Our precedents do not compel this conclusion. In fact, [National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra, 585 U. S. 755, 767–769 (2018)] draws a different line, and the correct course of action here is to hold it: Speech uttered for purposes of providing medical treatment may be restricted incidentally when the State reasonably regulates the speaker’s provision of medical treatments to patients. Id., at 769–770. To do anything else opens a dangerous can of worms. It threatens to impair States’ ability to regulate the provision of medical care in any respect. It extends the Constitution into uncharted territory in an utterly irrational fashion. And it ultimately risks grave harm to Americans’ health and wellbeing."

MORE: From Gorsuch's opinion (which was joined by everyone except Sotomayor and Jackson):

Not long ago, many medical experts and organizations, including the American Psychiatric Association, considered homosexuality a mental disorder.... On the view Colorado and the dissent advance, a law adopted during that era prohibiting counselors from engaging in the “substandard care” of affirming their clients’ homosexuality would have been subject to only rational-basis or intermediate-scrutiny review—and likely upheld. Today, tomorrow, and forever, too, any professional speech that deviates from “current beliefs about the safety and efficacy of various medical treatments” could be silenced with relative ease. It is a consequence Colorado freely acknowledges. And one the dissent embraces. So what if that kind of reflexive deference to currently prevailing professional views may not always end well? Cf. Buck v. Bell, 274 U. S. 200, 205–207 (1927). 

Fortunately, that is not the world the First Amendment envisions for us. Licensed professionals “have a host of good-faith disagreements” about the “prudence” and “ethics” of various practices in their fields. NIFLA, 585 U. S., at 772. Medical consensus, too, is not static; it evolves and always has. A prevailing standard of care may reflect what most practitioners believe today, but it cannot mark the outer boundary of what they may say tomorrow. Far from a test of professional consensus, the First Amendment rests instead on a simple truth: “[T]he people lose” whenever the government transforms prevailing opinion into enforced conformity. Ibid.  

We do not doubt that the question “how best to help minors” struggling with issues of gender identity or sexual orientation is presently a subject of “fierce public debate.”... But Colorado’s law addressing conversion therapy does not just ban physical interventions. In cases like this, it censors speech based on viewpoint. Colorado may regard its policy as essential to public health and safety. Certainly, censorious governments throughout history have believed the same. But the First Amendment stands as a shield against any effort to enforce orthodoxy in thought or speech in this country. It reflects instead a judgment that every American possesses an inalienable right to think and speak freely, and a faith in the free marketplace of ideas as the best means for discovering truth.....

ALSO: Justice Gorsuch cited Buck v. Bell, as you can see in that long quote. Back at the time of the oral argument, I called attention to Justice Alito's use of Buck v. Bell:

"The medical consensus is usually reasonable and important. But have there been times when it has been politicized or influenced by ideology?"

Said Justice Alito in yesterday's oral argument in Chiles v. Salazar. He was confronting the lawyer defending Colorado's law prohibiting licensed therapy treatments aimed at changing a minor's sexual orientation or gender identity. The lawyer responds:
MS. STEVENSON: We have no facts about that in this case, but I wouldn’t disagree that it’s possible.

JUSTICE ALITO: Isn’t it a fact that it’s happened in the past?... “Three generations of idiots are enough”?

Those few quoted words invoke an infamous case, Buck v. Bell, where a state had seen fit to sterilize  a "feeble minded woman" without her consent. The Supreme Court did not object to the state's approach to medical science.

MS. STEVENSON: That’s certainly a concern. If there were evidence in the record that a standard of care wasn’t based on patient safety, that would be highly relevant.

Justice Alito didn't ask about whether the motive was correct — whether medical scientists were sincerely pursuing patient safety. He was concerned with whether the goal was pursued in a truly scientific manner and was not skewed by politics and ideology. 

JUSTICE ALITO: Isn’t that a reason to apply First Amendment scrutiny when what’s being regulated is pure speech, rather than just accepting the medical standard of care and medical consensus as the end of the matter, allowing rational basis review where anything goes?

The lawyer must resist this idea that the therapy is "pure speech." The idea she uses is that these are "words used to deliver medical treatment" (which are different from words expressing the opinion that conversion therapy is good (or bad)):

MS. STEVENSON: No, Your Honor. When we’re talking about words used to deliver medical treatment, the issues are the same whether it’s words or medical practices that don’t involve words. This statute, for example, doesn’t stop anyone from sharing opinions about conversion therapy or how the consensus on it was reached. In this case, there’s no evidence of any motive by the Colorado legislature or any medical association to reach this conclusion based on anything other than protecting minors and a decades-long record of research.

Justice Alito returns to the idea that medical consensus can be wrong and the classic example of eugenics, but the lawyer for Colorado declines to engage:

JUSTICE ALITO: Was there a time when many medical professionals thought certain people should not be permitted to procreate because they had low IQs?

MS. STEVENSON: I don’t know that, but I’ll accept the premise.

JUSTICE ALITO: Was there a time when many medical professionals thought every child born with Down syndrome should be immediately put in an institution?

MS. STEVENSON: I don’t know that, Your Honor.

JUSTICE ALITO: Thank you.

74 comments:

Bob B said...

Ketanji Brown Jackson never ceases to embarrass.

Enigma said...

KBJ = the eternal first-year student who misses the point.

On the positive side, she's done more to destroy the DEI thesis than 1,000,000 faceless corporate DEI drones.

Aggie said...

So Colorado and 20 other states want to ban 'Conversion Therapy', a form of counseling that seeks to reinforce heterosexual norms. Nothing wrong with therapies that seek to demolish them, though.

Death Cult.

RCOCEAN II said...

Astounding that ACB and Roberts signed on without some sort of quishy, muddy the waters, opinion. Or that Kavanaugh resisted his usual impulse to write his usual "Hey, look at me" concurrence.

SGT Ted said...

Telling gay kids that they are actually the wrong sex and then putting them into a medical industry pipeline that gives them cross sex hormones and cosmetic surgery is the ultimate "conversion therapy".

RCOCEAN II said...

So, as usual with the liberal-left, we start out with tolerance, and hey lets be nice to everyone, and we end up with conformity and jail sentences for those who disagree. Which was always the objective. The gullible rubes fall for it everytime.

James K said...

"Speech uttered for purposes of providing medical treatment may be restricted incidentally when the State reasonably regulates the speaker’s provision of medical treatments to patients."

That word "reasonably" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Enigma said...

KBJ dared to write Speech uttered for purposes of providing medical treatment may be restricted incidentally when the State reasonably regulates the speaker’s provision of medical treatments to patients. Id., at 769–770. To do anything else opens a dangerous can of worms.

Dangerous can of worms? She's the one who cannot define 'woman,' -- merely mentioning bio male vs. bio female medical care (XX vs. XY) is restricted speech among hard blue ideologues!

Hoisted on her own petard, yet not aware of it. In a rational world she'd be impeached as unqualified and removed from the bench.

Jupiter said...

"It threatens to impair States’ ability to regulate the provision of medical care in any respect."
The Left discovers that slopes are slippery.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Jackson's idea: "The majority finds, at bottom, that Colorado likely cannot legislate to protect the children of its State if, by doing so, it happens to keep state-licensed healthcare providers from saying what they want to say to minors. And the majority’s holding means, in effect, that just because Chiles is a talk therapist—and not, say, a surgeon—a State can be prevented from incidentally imposing reasonable restrictions on the treatments she provides.

1: They're not trying to protect children, they're trying to destroy them. Chiles is the one trying to protect them
2: The restrictions aren't reasonable, they're insane, because they're a demand that Chiles affirm insanity. "Gender dysphoria", the rejection of physical reality, is insanity
3: The restrictions weren't "incidental", suppressing speech the fascists running Colorado disagree with was the entire point of the restrictions

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Just how psychotic were teh lower court "judges" who ruled against Chiles? They were so lunatic that the 3 lefties voted 2-1 against them.

When the only member of SCOTUS supporting your position is Jackson, you really need to reassess your life goals

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

The hard part is done. Go get your own sex change if that’s what you want. Is that what the decision boils down to?

rhhardin said...

What's the sex category of the audience for "Piddle: A Child's First Sex Magazine"? Ought to be LGBTQP, for polymorphous perverse.

Dave Begley said...

The City of Lincoln has the same law.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Here's NIFLA:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/585us2r71_f2b7.pdf

The California Reproductive Freedom, Accountability, Comprehensive Care, and Transparency Act (FACT Act) was enacted to regulate crisis pregnancy centers—pro-life centers that offer pregnancy-related services. The FACT Act requires clinics that primarily serve pregnant women to provide certain notices. Clinics that are licensed must notify women that California provides free or low-cost services, including abortions, and give them a phone number to call....

Held:
1. The licensed notice likely violates the First Amendment. Pp. 6–17.
(a) Content-based laws “target speech based on its communicative content” and “are presumptively unconstitutional and may be justifed only if the government proves that they are narrowly tailored to serve compelling state interests.”

...
(b) Although the licensed notice is content-based, the Ninth Circuit did not apply strict scrutiny because it concluded that the notice regulates “professional speech.” But this Court has never recognized “professional speech” as a separate category of speech subject to different rules. Speech is not unprotected merely because it is uttered by professionals. The Court has afforded less protection for professional speech in two circumstances—where a law requires professionals to disclose factual, noncontroversial information in their “commercial speech,” see, e. g., Zauderer v. Offce of Disciplinary Counsel of Supreme Court of Ohio, 471 U. S. 626, 651, and where States regulate professional conduct that incidentally involves speech

Since her ENTIRE conduct is speech, it is not "professional conduct that incidentally involves speech".

Since it's not possible to be stupid enough not to understand this, Jackson is clearly lying here, and obviously so.

The Left is nothing without it's hatred

Yancey Ward said...

"On the positive side, she's done more to destroy the DEI thesis than 1,000,000 faceless corporate DEI drones."

What I came here to write.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Note: NIFLA was 5-4, because those lefties really love their abortion
But this was 8-1, with the remaining 2 No votes on NIFLA becoming yes votes here
It's a useful metric: any "legal expert" who supported Colorado in this is an untrustworthy raving lunatic

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Dave Begley said...
The City of Lincoln has the same law.

Not any more

stutefish said...

Oh come on. We regulate what talk therapists are allowed to say all the time.

Wince said...

8-1.

"How does that make you feel?"

David in Cal said...

There is a big difference between whether a therapy is right vs. whether the government should prohibit or require that therapy. The government shouldn't create such requirements unless they are very, very sure that they're right.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Then there's Kennedy's Concurrence, which got 4 votes (everyone on yes but Thomas). I'll quote how it starts:

I join the Court's opinion in all respects.
This separate writing seeks to underscore that the apparent viewpoint discrimination here is a matter of serious constitutional concern. See ante, at 6, n. 2. The Court, in my view, is correct not to reach this question. It was not sufficiently developed, and the rationale for the Court's decision today suffices to resolve the case. And had the Court's analysis been confined to viewpoint discrimination, some legislators might have inferred that if the law were reenacted with a broader base and broader coverage it then would be upheld.
It does appear that viewpoint discrimination is inherent in
the design and structure of this Act. This law is a paradigmatic example of the serious threat presented when government seeks to impose its own message in the place of individual speech, thought, and expression.
For here the State requires primarily pro-life pregnancy centers to promote the State's own preferred message advertising abortions. This compels individuals to contradict their most deeply held beliefs, beliefs grounded in basic philosophical, ethical, or religious precepts, or all of these. And the history of the Act's
passage and its underinclusive application suggest a real possibility that these individuals were targeted because of their beliefs.
The California Legislature included in its offcial history
the congratulatory statement that the Act was part of Cali-
fornia's legacy of “forward thinking.” App. 38–39. But it
is not forward thinking to force individuals to “be an instru-
ment for fostering public adherence to an ideological point of
view [they] fin[d] unacceptable.”
Wooley v. Maynard, 430
U. S. 705, 715 (1977).

Greg The Class Traitor said...

stutefish said...
Oh come on. We regulate what talk therapists are allowed to say all the time.

Really? Do give some examples, Try to give some even remotely like the suppression in this case (I write "try" because we all know you can't)

Kevin said...

The Times headline needs to be sharpened up. The Court didn't "reject" the whole "law."

Headlines that promote falsehoods are essential to maintaining a smug, self-assured worldview for half the population.

hombre said...

Jackson is an unqualified dunce in “full speed ahead” mode. In the long haul Biden’s godawful judges maybe seal his title as worst POTUS ever. However, the ACA keeps Barack the Lightbringer in contention.

n.n said...

More to enforce the DEI thesis, where Diversity represents color judgment or class bigotry.

n.n said...

California Democratically legalized preforming human rites following the RAAT doctrine of the secular Pro-Choice ethical religion.

n.n said...

Most trans are homos under the Rainbow flag and rhetoric celebrating albinophobia in parades. A minority are boys and girls passing through puberty, who are confused or dissatisfied with Her choices. Gender in drag is transsocial.

n.n said...

California epitomizes true blue progressive phobias (PP). #HateLovesAbortion

Yancey Ward said...

"Oh come on. We regulate what talk therapists are allowed to say all the time."

Like, for example? Of course, a therapist might get sued by a patient and lose a just verdict but here we are talking about prior restraint by the state itself, not a tort situation.

gspencer said...

An 8-1 decision.

Extra points bonus question, Who was the 1?

[Jeopardy theme countdown-music playing in the background]

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

There is a big difference between whether a therapy is right vs. whether the government should prohibit or require that therapy.

Well said. I left off the rest.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

No one really had to wonder who the 1 in the 8-1 decision was. We all immediately thought of the overly verbose DEI hire.

Hey Skipper said...

James K said...
"Speech uttered for purposes of providing medical treatment may be restricted incidentally when the State reasonably regulates the speaker’s provision of medical treatments to patients."

That word "reasonably" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.


You stole the letters right out of my keyboard.

Justabill said...

Socrates said that the unexamined life is not worth living.

Real American said...

Send No Kings losers to prison for their "words used to deliver treason"...

Bruce Hayden said...

This decision makes sense to me. The plaintiff was not offering physical therapy, but only talk therapy. So, it was easy to limit the decision to Free Speech and the 1st Amdt. I think that the hope had been to include physical therapy (castration, sterilization, hormone treatments, etc) in a Free Speech decision. That failed. The majority made clear that these cases are fact dependent, and to get StrictScrutiny, parties need to show abridgment of Free Speech.

Turns out that talk therapy is more effective than physical therapy in many cases. A number of young people with these sorts of gender issues are just going through puberty. They very often resolve on their own, by the time they legally become adults. Talk therapy can help mentally overcoming and understanding what is happening to their bodies during puberty.

Iman said...

Jackson swings and misses.

Not Illinois Resident said...

When will SCJs address liability concerns and free speech concerns re: AMA position statement: "Covid shot is !00% effective, 100% safe" debunked medical opinion?

Not Illinois Resident said...

KBJ must look in the mirror and see the Genius.

RCOCEAN II said...

Jackson does what Leftwing Judges on the Appeals and District court level are doing, she writes page after page of bullshit pushing her leftwing partisan views. Its impossible to read, quantity doesnt equal quality.

RCOCEAN II said...

Whatever Trump did or does, I'll thank him for saving us from Chief Justice Kagan. And Jackson/Garland writing the majority opinions.

n.n said...

Is Conversion to and fro?

mindnumbrobot said...

Only Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented, reading a lengthy summary of her opposition from the bench.

Sheesh. And you thought Trump loves the sound of his own voice.

Maynard said...

So KBJ is saying that a person cannot enter into a private service contract that involves no other persons except for the service provider.

And she thinks that is a liberal thought?

TosaGuy said...

Jackson is such an intellectual lightweight and on the wrong end of so many 8-1 decisions, that I sometimes wonder if that pushes Kagan and Sotomayor to be more reasonable on some cases.

Neither will ever be moderate, but I’ve seen where both have been more thoughtful than before Jackson.

Kagan will stand on her own ideas when needed to in her mind, but the lesser intellect of Sotomayor appears that she doesn’t want to be tied up with Jackson when Jackson is out there on Dillard island. So she she wisely becomes the 8th vote in cases.

TosaGuy said...

That would be Dullard island…

Enigma said...

Before KBJ arrived, I said that the only way out of the USA's generation of cultural trench warfare and lawfare was a series of 9-0 USSC decisions on tough issues.

WIth KBJ present, I think a series of 8-1 decisions drives home a much sharper message: (1) Yes, we agree, and (2) the sane left has its limits. The left telegraphs: Please do not put incapable people in power ever again.

KBJ delivered two-for-one wins. She's the ultimate backfire.

Immanuel Rant said...

Kagan, I often disagree with - but I respect her. She is (obviously) smart and puts in the work. Occasionally, I've modified my own opinions based on points that she has brought up. Even where I remain opposed to her opinion, I pay attention to it.

Jackson, however . . .

boatbuilder said...

Medical consensus was dead wrong about many, many aspects of Covid-19, its treatment, management, virulence, origin and transmission. Medical practitioners were disciplined by licensing authorities and by employers for dissenting from the politically approved as correct consensus views. The First Amendment stands* as a bulwark against this sort of Lysenkoism in all of its guises.

*or should stand--I don't know how any Justice could seriously disagree, yet here we are.

AlbertAnonymous said...

8-1. Even Kagan and Sotomayor signed onto the majority opinion. They also both signed onto Kagan's concurrence, which basically says the decision in this case is a slam dunk.

Kagan's concurrence wrote:

"The law forbids a counselor to provide therapy designed to “change [a minor’s] sexual orientation or gender identity.” [Cites omitted] At the same time, the law specifically allows a counselor to offer therapy expressing “[a]cceptance, support,” and other affirmation of the minor’s “identity exploration.” [Cites omitted] ..."

"So, for example, the law prevents a therapist from saying she can help a minor change his same-sex orientation, but permits her to say that such a goal is impossible and so she will help him accept his gay identity. Colorado does not dispute that point. See Tr. of Oral Arg. 78. Nor does it dispute that under normal First Amendment principles, that difference constitutes viewpoint discrimination. See ibid. Indeed, the case is textbook...."

KBJ once again shows herself to be the lightest of lightweights on the court.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

JUSTICE KAGAN, with whom JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR joins,
concurring.
The Court today decides that the Colorado law challenged here, as applied to talk therapy, conflicts with core First Amendment principles because it regulates speech based on viewpoint. See ante, at 23. I agree. I write only to note that if Colorado had instead enacted a content-based but viewpoint-neutral law, it would raise a different and more
difficult question.
As the Court states, governments must “nearly always”
abstain from adopting viewpoint-based restrictions
. Ante, at 9. Those laws represent a particularly “egregious form” of content-based regulation, implicating First Amendment concerns to the highest possible degree. Ibid.; see Iancu v. Brunetti, 588 U. S. 388, 393 (2019). A law drawing a line based on the “ideology” of the speaker—disadvantaging one view and advantaging another—skews the marketplace of ideas our society depends on to discover truth. Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of Univ. of Va., 515 U. S. 819, 829 (1995). And such a law suggests an impermissible motive—that the government is regulating speech because of its own “hostility” toward the targeted messages. R. A. V. v. St.
Paul, 505 U. S. 377, 386 (1992). If the First Amendment prohibits anything, it is the “official suppression of ideas.” Id., at 390; see Reed v. Town of Gilbert, 576 U. S. 155, 181–183 (2015) (KAGAN, J., concurring in judgment). Because viewpoint-based laws always raise that specter, they are the most suspect of all speech regulations. So much so that this Court has refused to permit viewpoint discrimination even within unprotected categories of speech, like fighting words or obscenity. See R. A. V., 505 U. S., at 384–390. Colorado’s law, as applied to talk therapy, regulates based on viewpoint, for the reasons the Court gives.

MORITZ, and ROSSMAN, remember their names. They're the two 10th Circuit "judges" who decided that none of the above mattered

bagoh20 said...

Can you provide therapy to change a straight kid to gay. I know people of many professions who try that, sometimes over and over.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

So, shorter Jackson:
Viewpoint discrimination is allowed when I don't like the viewpoint

gspencer said...

MORITZ and ROSSMAN are two lefty females giving proof of why the 19th Amendment was an error. Obama gave us Moritz, Biden Rossman.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

"MORE: From Gorsuch's opinion (which was joined by everyone except Sotomayor and Jackson):"

Correction, professor: Sotomayor and Jackson joined the majority opinion, while adding a concurrence.

joshbraid said...

Speaking as a talk therapist, the idea that talk therapy is "medical treatment" is ludicrous. Even physiological medical treatment is not exact science. The point of this law is to enforce the ideology that sexual orientation is fixed, except when it is not.

gspencer said...

Every dissent by the AA Judge Jackson,

"Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a8JIoKeApKs

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Jackson is truly an embarrassment. Her dissent here is as long as the majority and concurring opinions combined, and it's written as if by a high school student. What a narcissist.

n.n said...

Homosexuals are believed to transition around the time of viability, six weeks after conception, through environmental corruption in their womb. At the time that the left offers liberal license to Planned Parenthood umbrella corporation to perform human rites in progressive sects to relieve plausible, probable "burdens" of evidence, state, and State. Indulging social liberal club, which was, is a first-order forcing of the AIDS, etc pandemic, endemic. Coincidence? Maybe, baby, not.

n.n said...

Verbal and written therapy may influence, but does not determine states of mind, body, and conscience.

n.n said...

Conversion therapy? Grooming, transsocial reading, etc.

Enigma said...

Consider that psychiatry and counseling have a bad history of selling nonsense as valid treatments. This is expressly why insurance ofte did not cover such treatment prior to Obamacare/ACA. Examples:

1. Use of Freudian psychoanalysis talk therapy for biological conditions (e.g., schizophrenia) before medications were available.

2. Electroshock / Electro Convulsive Therapy (ECT): It works, but in moderation for narrow needs and not how broadly it was once used.

3. Recovered memory therapy: Talking about made fiction and fantasies as real "memories" led to lawsuits and the absurd McMartin Preschool case of the 1980s.

4. Rebirthing therapy: Uhhhh...wrap people up in blankets to be 'born again' for maturity, cleansing, or something...if they don't suffocate first (which they sometimes did).

5. The FIRST ROUND of gender reassignments in the 1970s and 1980s ended with suicides and reversion to the born/biological sex.

Still...KBJ trusts the experts and Conversion Therapy is bad...? Okay...

gspencer said...

"and it's written as if by a high school student"

Meaning, a high high school student.

Kirk Parker said...

Enigma,

In a rational world, Jackson would not have sat on any bench anywhere - - not even traffic court.

Greg TCT,

> Not any more

Are you sure? I thought this case was just a remand.

Dave Begley said...

I sent the SCOTUS opinion to the City of Lincoln Attorney and told him that Lincoln's ordinance needs to be repealed.

The Dems love to censor. The Dems hate democracy and freedom.

Leslie Graves said...

What this calls to mind are the handful of times (over the long, long years) that a medical doctor has said something wildly inappropriate and/or clearly false to me or a family member. That's something that happens, but it's not something anyone expects to do anything about, and I assume that's because we adopt a broad view of their free speech rights.

Lazarus said...

By the time I was able to distinguish between "conversion therapy" and "gender-affirming care" I had already lost interest ...

Vance said...

All you have to do is ask whether Colorado would allow Therapist Abortion Barbie working for planned parenthood to tell a Christian 12 year old girl to chop off her breasts... while at the same time trying to put in jail Therapist Stalwart Rick working as a hired psychologist for The Church Of Jesus Christ for telling the same girl that she is struggling with temptation and can stay strong. We all know that the left says jailing Stalwart Rick is a-ok while letting Abortion barbie poison the minds is fine.

Classic 1st Amendment on multiple grounds.

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

Interesting that the 11th circuit struck down the FL law that prohibited doctors from asking about guns in the home. Lefties sued successfully to overturn this law.
Ox, gored; some assembly required.

RobinGoodfellow said...

“Since it's not possible to be stupid enough not to understand this, Jackson is clearly lying here, and obviously so.”

I’m not willing to grant your premise that she can’t be that stupid.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Kirk Parker said...
Greg TCT,
> Not any more
Are you sure? I thought this case was just a remand.


This case is a remand to issue the injunction against the CO law,

So someone is going to have to go to court to get the law enjoined in Omaha. But they're win, and any attempt to enforce one of these laws now that SCOTUS made this ruling is going to be blown up by a facial challenge to the law they're being charged with violating.

So, you are technically correct that the law is still on the books. But as a practical matter, all such laws are dead

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Dave Begley said...
I sent the SCOTUS opinion to the City of Lincoln Attorney and told him that Lincoln's ordinance needs to be repealed.

Nice. Please update us as to his / her reply :-)

mccullough said...

KJB is a third generation imbecile

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