January 28, 2026

"When did we all decide that sweats and pajama pants were the appropriate attire for air travel?"

"What incentive do we have in such a demoralizing environment?"

@maryarchived

telling people to “dress up” at the airport is such a tired conservative talking point, and the last person i want to hear it from is the guy whose ENTIRE job is improving travel for americans

♬ original sound - mary morgan
"Save your civility campaign for someone who cares."

I haven't followed this TikToker, and these days I'm suspicious that any video of nice-looking young person is AI, but I clicked around on her videos, and I don't know where they put in the general scheme of things, but here's one video, made shortly before Charlie Kirk died, that I think is quite sweet:

@maryarchived

sometimes the matcha hitting different

♬ original sound - mary morgan

80 comments:

Unknown said...

For me, as someone who is 6'3", it was when the seats became so small that sitting comfortably in anything else became impossible.

Leland said...

She has decent points, but I think the answer has more to do with TSA. When you have to strip down to get through security, why dress up? Maybe a woman in a dress could get through easily, but a man in a suit needs to remove too many things. Sweats are easier.

Ann Althouse said...

"Maybe a woman in a dress could get through easily...."

My standard dress for flying for many years was a long skirt — nice looking but loose and completely comfortable.

I finally had to conclude that it was the reason I was always selected to get felt up by human hands. They just had to figure out if I had something clutched between my thighs. Every time I was the one who had to step out please. Then they'd make me wait even longer so they could get a female TSA person to do the feeling. The men would be standing around, but none of them could help me get through the crotch check. Had to be a lady. I'd be in a hurry and furiously thinking about what I could say that would just let me be manhandled rather than ladyhandled.

R C Belaire said...

If one does not care what one looks like or the opinions of others, then carry on. You will be judged nonetheless...

Breezy said...

I have to wear looser clothes while traveling, especially when stuck in a seat for hours. Also I only eat a little trail mix and drink a little water while on board, to keep from feeling bloated while stuck in a seat for hours. I don’t care at all about the airline meal.

Christopher B said...

I don't think it's anything anyone decided. The people who travel changed, and the way airlines operate changed. We also shifted our perception of what reasonable dress for outside the house was.

I'm old enough to remember my mom putting on lipstick and a headscarf before driving to our small town grocery store, though other than a smear on her lips she wasn't 'dressed up' by any means. We flew several times back in the late 1970s, but other than making sure we and our clothes were clean I don't remember being dressed up relative to what I would have worn to school or any other everyday occasion even then. I will note that back in that day, most of the people who were flying were doing so for business, not pleasure. Also, flights were far more likely to be direct with no change of planes. I think this is something people tend to forget when looking a pictures of people boarding trains in the 1940s and 1950s. Those folks were likely not taking an extended journey. They were probably going to be on the train for a few hours so their clothing reflects that, as well as what they anticipate doing when they got off the train.

The big change I see in airline travel is far more people traveling for pleasure, and also far more flights involve at least one change. Even business people are not wearing suits unless they are going directly from the flight to a business function but given airline scheduling that seems far less common than it would have been with direct flights. Now you're likely to spend hours in a couple of airports as well as getting on and off two or more planes. People are naturally going to switch to wearing clothing that is more comfortable for an extended period of activity, and what they want to be wearing at the end of the journey.

Dave Begley said...

The “enshitification” of modern life.

Great new word!

And as to our out-of-date air traffic control system, that’s entirely on Pete Buttegig.

rrsafety said...

This lady is an idiot. Duffy was completely correct about people being, dressing and acting like slobs. All the while, she is upset about her first class salad as if that has anything to do with the stress of flying.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy’s idea that people dressing better will behave better should first be applied to ICE and Border Patrol agents. Now it’s dress like a goon, act like a goon. Plus, they look like goons even when they are not behaving like goons. Trump should show some pride in our country and put them in proper uniforms.

Marcus Bressler said...

As far as I am concerned, the dressing down is the fault of the airlines: when they decided to treat us like passengers on a 50s Trailways bus that had smaller seats, no leg room, and forced to share a seat arm with the person next to you -- you decided to dress comfortably. Personally, I do dress up, but I haven't flown in many years.

narciso said...

Yeah its a joke like the cargo plane in temple of doom

The Vault Dweller said...

The Tik-Toker is Mary Morgan. She has been part of a Podcast called "Pop Culture Crisis," which you can find clips of on YouTube as well as other streaming sites. I think the show was funded by Tim Pool. She used to be participate in the show in studio, but has recently gone remote which might have been part of her moving. I wonder if she is going to start her own thing. If you watch Pop Culture Crisis you will notice that she is clearly smarter than her co-host.

Michael said...

I wonder if Ann noticed her students dressing more slovenly over time. In my three years as an adjunct at Penn State, I noticed compared to my ungrad days decades before. Don't know if it pertains, but students in the 00s carried far more fatthan in the 70s.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The most realistic episode of the great 30 Rock show was when Liz Lemon dated a pilot played by Matt Damon. On his airplane, the passengers are trapped waiting for maintenance and eventually revolt when Damon reveals how much contempt he and the crew have for the "cattle" they transport. When we still traveled my wife would give me the cold stare when I lowed like a cow in line to board.

In the context of the airlines Temple Grandining us, who really cares what people wear as long as they are clothed.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

"Ladyhandled." That ladies and gents is why I'm here. Also, no wonder the host drives everywhere now!

Howard said...

If you don't like what TSA is doing, you are a seditious treasonous traitor to Federal authority. Just shut the f****** with your complaining about the most successful and safe transportation system ever devised by man that has become more and more affordable over the years while the safety level has increased. Somehow that's not good enough for you spoiled rotten entitled children.

Temujin said...

I'm not sure she's an actual human, but she has good points. And...so does Sean Duffy. By the way, I don't look to my Secy of Transportation to make our flying population have more class. They lost that well before they bought those airline tickets.

When I was still working, I worked remotely- for the last 25 years of my working life. So that was well before the wave of covid remote workers. I used to 'dress for work' every day at home, to stand in front of my desk and laptop, to make business calls, to communicate via email. I had to feel like I was dressed for it. Dress for success? Maybe. But more this: It was a mental state that dressing for business helped me feel more business like, think more business-like.

I know we're well past that point in our devolution. The tech bros. became our standard for dress around the time the internet took off and we were seeing images from the offices of those high paying tech companies with young men- and their bosses- wearing sweatpants, pajamas, old t-shirts, unshaven, barely showered. It became a new standard. And everything started tanking from there.

As for the airlines- I don't dress up for it. But I would never feel good wearing sweats or pajamas on an airplane. I also have no expectations from any airline to feed me well (though I have been surprised once or twice on Delta). I've given up on expecting any comfort from them. These days I'm singularly focused on just wanting to get to my destination. What happens from check-in to deplaning is typically uncomfortable and long, but I've learned to accept it.

Howard said...

There is something about the slobification of American sartorial aspects. About 8 years ago we went to Disneyland and California adventures in Anaheim. It was a special theme night where a bunch of young people came to the parks dressed in garb from the 40s and 50s. The cut of the dresses that the women wore was so flattering to their figures that even the obese women looked sexy. It didn't do anything for the men, the heavy guys all looked like Broderick Crawford.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Well, since Althouse revealed her skirt as flying gear of choice, I'll follow her example. (Temujin came close and inspired me to do this.) I almost always dressed business casual when flying, mostly because I usually did it for work not pleasure, and being in ready-to-work wear came in handy more than once when the inevitable happens. Now I rarely fly and the look has become more casual, but I can't wear sweats outside my house. And rarely indoors either. I don't actually own any sweats now that I ponder it.

RCOCEAN II said...

Lots of people 'in the old days" didnt' dress up to go on an airline. They were already dressed up. thats what they wore when they were at work, or on the town on Friday/Saturdya night.

I wore business attire in the 80s when I traveled for my job, and i wasnt out of place. The change seemed to occur in the 90s.

Randomizer said...

My dad worked for American Airlines. There was a dress code to fly non-rev, but as a kid, I got to fly quite a bit in the 60's and 70's when it was more elegant and expensive.

When airlines were deregulated, flight crews talked about "The Clampetts" being able to afford a ticket. Ticket prices bounce around, but are about what they were 30 years ago. I can still get a round trip, cross-country ticket for under $400.

Air travel is not just for business and fancy people anymore.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Yes, Howard I remember thinness. In fact I recall when Jackie Gleason was "the fat guy" on television. He'd be decidedly slimmer than average now if he popped up in Florida.

Kevin said...

I'd be in a hurry and furiously thinking about what I could say that would just let me be manhandled rather than ladyhandled.

Well today you could say you identify as a man.

RCOCEAN II said...

Today everyone is jetting around for pleasure trips. But back in the 70s/80s some kid going with his family to Mexico or Hawaii was unusual. My daughter had gone more foreign places by air by age 12, then I had gone before the age of 30.

Large numbers of "middle class" people take vacations to the "med", hawaii or the caribbean every winter. That used to not be the case.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Lots of people 'in the old days" didnt' dress up to go on an airline. They were already dressed up.

So true. The Ice Bowl (December 31, 1967) is not just one of the best NFL games of all time, it is a beautiful time-capsule of old Wisconsin. Even as a kid I was amazed at the ladies at Lambeau field in dresses with bare legs cheering the Packers on in the coldest NFL game ever, -13F at kickoff.

RCOCEAN II said...

Have you seen the movie "Airport (1970)" ? They're traveling to Rome from NYC and the air ticket is $600 one-way. That's probably $5000 in 2026 money. If we still had those high prices, then you'd see shrimp and caviar being served.

Wince said...

"It's to late...to dance on an airplane with Sharon Tate.

- Jim Carroll Band

AMDG said...

It is not just flying. I went to a funeral on Saturday and less than half the men had ties on. I don’t think there was a dress in the crowd but given it was 4 degrees outside that is explainable.

Just a sign of the times

Mr. D said...

I have about 30 neckties. I wore one for a funeral a few years ago, but that's it. My question is this - would it benefit people to wear suits on planes? If so, how?

rrsafety said...

You don't need to wear a suit on a plane. Just khakis, a button up shirt and a casual tie. Top button can be unbuttoned. Very comfortable and you don't look like a slob. The airline attendants appreciate it because you appear to be responsible and courteous.

john mosby said...

But Bank, yet when Bovino wore his full dress, your lot called him a Nazi cosplayer.

We piped and you did not dance; we wailed and you did not mourn. CC, JSM

Dave Begley said...

I went to my son’s law school graduation and I was the only one in the stands wearing a coat and tie. It was at SoFi Stadium in LA.

James K said...

If enough people really valued good food and service on plane travel for more than it cost, I suspect airlines would provide it. Instead, there seems to be a race to the bottom with airlines cutting service and comfort, and competing on price while squeezing every dollar possible out of travelers with their pricing strategies to cover their overhead.

Beyond that, as has been pointed out, there's the general enslobification. Look at videos from before 1960 of urban street scenes, or even baseball games, and nearly all the men are wearing suits and hats, the ladies dresses and hats. That seems to be gone forever.

Deep State Reformer said...

The peckinsniffs going crazy here should travel by more plebeian public transportation, whether urban/suburban or rural for a time and rub shoulders with the actual hoi polloi, and not simply the airport business class and tourists and i'll bet they'll reconsider this bullshit they're saying here right quick. BO, screaming kids, loud music devices, the drunkenness, speaker phones use, and the honest ones would accept that their privileged little bubble really ain't that bad at all. Just saying. TSA standards would only help CTA buses, the els, and such, frankly. (Backed up by a responsive CPD backup of course.)

The Vault Dweller said...

"You don't need to wear a suit on a plane. Just khakis, a button up shirt and a casual tie."

I don't think adult men should wear this. An outfit like this comes off as someone is trying to dress up their 14 year old kid.

Wilbur said...

Since I retired my family and friends know I'm only flying anywhere for weddings and funerals. Marryin' and buryin".

When I used to fly, which wasn't often then since my job did not require it, I always wore a sportcoat or suit coat simply to keep my stuff in - wallet, badge wallet, tickets, glasses, keys etc. I always considered it the equivilalent of a male purse. And I never sit on a wallet if I don't have to.

The shrinkage in leg room is my major complaint with flying. As a long-legged 6-2 man, I have to pay extra for exit row seating or something similar. The cost is worth it to me.

Spiros said...

I think it is easy to idolize the past. But this often leads to a distorted view of history, where only the positive aspects are remembered. What I remember about flights to Athens as a child was mayhem. Cigarette smoke, noise, heavy drinking and contraband on board. It was not at all strange for an old woman to smuggle goat head's cheese in her luggage (my grandmother). I even remember one man who had an entire cooked lamb with him. And the final leg of the trip home from New York to Chicago? The American Whites were just as bad. One hillbilly opened a can of sardines and ate them in front of everybody. He almost caused a riot.

Nevertheless, Professor Althouse is correct -- the people did look good. They were trim and athletic and well dressed.

Aggie said...

"..."Save your civility campaign for someone who cares." ..."

By saying so, in that way, she's showing that she cares. But who the hell is she to tell me how to behave? You want to embrace slob culture be my guest, but also expect to be called a slob - it's a way of thinking, and being lazy, not just your attire.

Besides, there are plenty of ways to dress comfortably that don't involve flip flops and grotty sweats. And if you are dressed that way - good luck catching that connection if you have to run, eh?

Not that the TSA doesn't need to be put on a severe diet and 75% of the BS needs to just go. It would be a golden opportunity to streamline the air travel process if they would just enforce a sensible, inflexible rule on carry-on luggage being 'no bigger than this, no heavier than this', tightened up on the 'handicapped' scofflaws, and pretty much just did away with the TSA pageantry. It's bloated and mostly useless. The really effective security work is always behind the scenes.

TaeJohnDo said...

I have a picture of the family in 1964 boarding a TWA Constellation flying back from Tripoli, Libya after dad's tour ended. Dad was in his Class A's, all of us boys were in suits and Mom was wearing a stylish dress with her mink stole. Much later in life, I became a USAF C-130 Navigator and of course wore a nomex flight suit. (One of the biggest fears we had was fire. The nomex would help just a little, but I know a pilot who was ejected from the plane through a fireball and only suffered burns where his suit and gloves did't cover.) Now when I fly, I wear denim or cotton pants, wool socks, a cotton or wool long sleeve shirt and natural material shoes. Most everything else will melt on you. And Ann, a long skirt could imped your evacuation. I recommend not flying anymore because it sucks, but something more protective and form fitting if you have to.

Gilligan said...

To be honest, business formal is pretty impractical. It's too cold in the winter, too hot in the summer, expensive to wash, expensive to purchase, uncomfortable, can't handle snow/rain, requires ironing, etc.

People -- or at least guys -- might be more willing to 'dress up' if our 'dress uniform' was changed to something more modern and functional. Uniforms do make social situations a lot simpler.

Tofu King said...

I don't go out of the house in sweats except for the gym or exercise, but given the TSA and unpredictability of air travel I don't judge other's decisions. My wife has been trying to get back home now for over 2 days. She would love some clean sweats!

Grundoon said...

I think people accomplished more when they were full of nicotine. The birth rate was higher, anyway.

Kakistocracy said...

It makes sense to look smart when flying. But not because of anything to do with Sean Duffy’s campaign to civilize air travel.
It makes sense to look respectable. Human beings are very hierarchical. They work out very quickly if you matter or not.

In other words, looking smart bolsters one’s chances of being treated well by border control guards, airline workers and other potential obstacles to airborne travel. It's so easy to dress like you respect yourself and most people are unthinking enough to follow your example. Although note if you're young and beautiful you can get away with whatever.

Rustygrommet said...

We all didn't. It happened when white trash discovered they could afford to fly.
Some people don't belong out in public let alone on an airplane.

tim maguire said...

Once upon a time, flying was a lot more expensive and people did it a lot less often, so flying was an event. Even today, most people dress up at least a little for events. Then you consider that when we paid more for our ticket, we were treated better and were more comfortable during flight.

Today, flying isn't an event anymore; it's just something to be gotten through, something to be endured. We dress appropriately for what it is.

William said...

Related subject: As people dress down for travel, they now dress up to go to the gym. Have you priced any of the gym gear at Lululemon stores? There are sweatpants priced at $130 and sneakers over $200.....I remember when you wore old clothes to work out.......None of this should be interpreted as in any way reflecting a criticism of women who wear tight yoga pants to the gym. I'm sure they are a big factor in the motivation of many young men.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

The airlines figured out that they make more money by offering barebones levels of service and comfort for very cheap fares while at the same time selling upgrades to people who are willing to pay more. I think that's actually a pretty good deal all around.

To be even a little more contrarian: I think people greatly exaggerate how awful air travel is.

Humperdink said...

“When airlines were deregulated, flight crews talked about "The Clampetts" being able to afford a ticket. Ticket prices bounce around, but are about what they were 30 years ago. I can still get a round trip, cross-country ticket for under $400.”

^^^ This. Back in the day, flying on a plane was a special event. No more. Now, low prices mean anyone can fly, regardless of social status. The NY Post has regular videos of airplane brawls. Never saw that or even heard of that before. I refuse to fly now, always travel by car. See: TSA, no legroom, arrive several hours early, parking, shuttles, rare direct flights.

Plus watching an idiot try a load a coffee table size carry-on in to the overhead bin is always a treat. And gets better when they try to remove it.

Sebastian said...

"What incentive do we have in such a demoralizing environment?" Showing respect for other people. Not enough, of course. Better to blame airlines and officials for travelers being fat slobs.

But many public spaces have become de-moralized. Morals, manners: what are those? At least planes have the distinct advantage of safely getting you to distant destinations at reasonable expense: a daily miracle we take for granted.

Humperdink said...

Let’s not forget comfort creatures being along for the ride.

William said...

As the years go by, I've gotten more and more comfortable with the concept of sweatpants and being more and more comfortable. What I particularly like about sweatpants, is that you can wear them straight to bed, and you don't need the intermediate step of taking off your clothes. When you wear jeans or khakis, the belt buckle digs into your side and constrains the waist. With sweatpants, you just have to loosen the draw string.

Peachy said...

I know. I hate seeing people in pajamas on flights.
Now - a long flight - yes indeed dress for comfort, without thte pajamas. come on. You can wear comfortable clothes without looking like you didn't shower all week. and please - take a shower.

Ann Althouse said...

"The Tik-Toker is Mary Morgan. She has been part of a Podcast called "Pop Culture Crisis," which you can find clips of on YouTube as well as other streaming sites...."

Thanks. I could see her name at TikTok, but all it says about her there is "i only think about fashion and death." Thanks for the extra info!

Ann Althouse said...

"I think it is easy to idolize the past. But this often leads to a distorted view of history, where only the positive aspects are remembered. What I remember about flights to Athens as a child was mayhem. Cigarette smoke, noise, heavy drinking and contraband on board. It was not at all strange for an old woman to smuggle goat head's cheese in her luggage (my grandmother). I even remember one man who had an entire cooked lamb with him. And the final leg of the trip home from New York to Chicago? The American Whites were just as bad. One hillbilly opened a can of sardines and ate them in front of everybody. He almost caused a riot."

LOL.

I was so caught up in your hilarious description that when I got to "the final leg of the trip," right after the goat's head and the entire lamb, I pictured an actual leg.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

BTW, it seems like people traveling or going out in public dressed like slobs means much less bang for the buck for the trans community. Think about it: With so many women going out just wearing sweats or pajama bottoms and no makeup, how does a trans woman even display her trans-womanhood?? Trans people would be much better off in a 1950s world where men and women dressed up all the time just to take the train or go to the supermarket.

tommyesq said...

What incentive do we have in such a demoralizing environment?" Showing respect for other people.

There is no such thing anymore as "other people." There is only me and my wants and needs, and "why isn't everyone else lining up to serve my wants and needs." Modern life has been highly efficient at eliminating any thoughts of what anyone else might want or need.

Wa St Blogger said...

in 1965 a coach ticket would be about 1100 where today is is about 350. Pay 1100 maybe they put in less seats and give better food. But people won't pay

Beasts of England said...

The last time I flew the people were attired in a manner barely appropriate for Walmart. No skin off my ass, but I’d prefer not to look homeless-adjacent.

Quaestor said...

The willing slobs of the enslobification are just thoughtlessly following the example of trendsetters, figures from the entertainment industry generally. When your daughter comes home from the Hot Topic with an outfit that would mortify a Reno chippy, you may justly blame Taylor Swift. (Sidebar: When was the previous time you read the word mortify in print or in pixels? No one who works for NYT has ever used it or knows what it means -- another aspect of the enslobification of America.)

Dress codes could help. Time was when you could judge the quality of a golf course just by the dress of the duffers as they exited the clubhouse. Today, the top ranks parade around like billboards with legs because the clubs won't enforce a more gentlemanly dress code. If rich-as-Croesus sports figures were compelled to dress more tastefully, the slobs would follow suit out of sheer mental inertia. Fox hunting may be the only sport with a dress code. We need to fix that.

Anthony said...

I fly Alaska whenever possible (however, I don't fly much anymore), they are still a bit more "civilized" than others I've used.

I dress casually and in something that will work in case of emergency. You really don't want to be trying to get off a plane quickly in flip flops.

THis goes back at least to the 1990s. I worked in a large west-coast city's government, and when the division was moving to a fairly nice downtown high-rise, the building management had to send a memo to employees telling them not to dress like slobs. Yes, people would come to work in pajamas.

Drake 8 said...

Before deregulation tickets cost a fortune. People paid top dollar to fly. Cram us in like sardines, but we can afford to fly. And, no such thing as a free lunch. You get what you're paying for.

CJinPA said...

Why don't they make the planes out of people who complain about air travel? They're indestructible!

The Vault Dweller said...

The Tik-Toker highlighting the food that was served on a First-Class flight is similar to the views she expressed on her podcast about what she called Corporate Slop Bowls.

john mosby said...

There are companies that specialize in business clothing that’s comfortable and easy-care for travel. Bluffworks is a good one. You can board in a blazer, slacks, and button-down shirt, sleep on the plane, and by the time you walk to baggage claim all the wrinkles are out. The other suits in your bag will similarly shake out, and when you get home, you can machine wash them. Keep an eye out for sales, and they cost about as much as Jos A Bank, and less than Lululemon!

As for shoes, loafers get you through security quickly and are comfy on the plane. CC, JSM

Ted said...

Unknown said... "For me, as someone who is 6'3", it was when the seats became so small that sitting comfortably in anything else became impossible."

I'm 6'2", and I agree with you completely. By the way, the average man's legs are 2 inches longer than the average woman's -- airlines charging extra for adequate leg room is gender discrimination.

NKP said...

In the '60s, flying was definitely a "Look Nice" event. Before that, traveling any distance on a train was much the same. Then came deregulation and Amtrak. Woe to the civil classes.

Actually, I don't recall the old fares being that bad. For one thing, the price bump from coach to first was only about 30 percent. Today, it's as high as 1,000 percent.

Even "Premium" Economy might set you back an extra 100 - 200 percent. Is the cost of renting 4 inches of extra space for 8 - 10 hours really worth $1,000 - $1,500. Either way, dressing for survival makes a lot of sense.

As a footnote, I;d like to second the remarks about avoiding clothing that melts on you in a fire.

Rick67 said...

Of course it's not just how people dress for air travel. I try not to be a snob but when it comes to how people dress in public yeah I am and frankly don't apologize for that. I nearly always dress the same way. Button down shirt, slacks, shoes. That's how I dressed as a minister, a university instructor, how I dress for working at the library, and when I travel.

I often am amazed at how casually Americans dress in public. And yes I reflexively think it says something about their attitude toward life.

My experience is that people *do* respond differently when you dress more formally. There was a Bob's Burgers episode about that.

JK Brown said...

It is quite common for someone who suffers or must suffer what sexual assault to cover up more and dress less appealing to others. This does not change just because the gropers are government employees.

If you want better dressed travelers stop SA'ing them simply to keep them broken and compliant.

Lucien said...

I recommend Luftansa business class. Great seats, good food & unlimited beverages. Worth dressing up for.

Rustygrommet said...

Another PSA
If you're going to fly, please bathe before the trip. You'll be doing the rest of us a favor.

Martin said...

A variety of rule changes and price drops. Remember those people were literally called the Jet Set. Because the rest of us could not afford to fly.

john mosby said...

Rustygrommet: "If you're going to fly, please bathe before the trip."

Sometimes that doesn't help. You can show up to the airport fresh as a daisy, then have to wait outside in the heat for shuttle buses, ride aesthetically pleasing monorails that are actually mobile greenhouses, sit in waiting areas with huge glass walls for more greenhouse effect, haul your carry-ons for a half-mile or more to your gate, stand up in a people mover packed with other passengers who add their body heat to either the greenhouse effect (summer) or the driver cranking the heat so it's just like back home in Lusaka.

Not to mention your cabbie or Uber driver refusing to use the AC before you even get to the airport, and then when you finally get on the plane, the pilots shutting down the AC to save fuel as they pull back from the gate for an 'on time departure' but then wait on the apron for another hour. CC, JSM

Not Illinois Resident said...

When we realized the planes weren't cleaned between flights, or for weeks on end. Toxic pit toilets.

MadisonMan said...

students in the 00s carried far more fat than in the 70s.

Smoking constantly instead of eating is a way to stay thin. Smoking in the 70s was widespread.

RCOCEAN II said...

Btw, Google tells me a $500 dollar ticket in 1970 would = $2000 in 2024 dollars. Or 400 percent. Which is absurd. Gas was 40 cents a gallon in 1970, and you could buy a good house for $25 thousand in 1970.

lonejustice said...

The problem is not about what the people who fly wear, but about what the airlines do to the people who fly. I recently spent 18 days in Cyprus on a wonderful vacation, with a long haul flight from Chicago to London, then London to Cyprus, with the same return flight. British Airways. On the return flight from London to Chicago, the person in front of me (I had paid extra for an aisle seat since I am 6 foot 1 and weight 200 pounds), she decided to lean back her seat as far as it could go. The planes are so packed now that when she did this I couldn't even move my legs. Since it was an 8 hour flight with dinner, I tried to lower my serving tray, but I couldn't, because there was no room. Thankfully my wife was sitting right next to me so I was able to use her tray to put my food on. Two flight attendants told the woman in front of me that she had to move her seat to the upright position, at least during dinner, so the person (me) behind her, could at least place their food on the tray. She refused, saying she was disabled. They did nothing about this, just told me I had to deal with it. This woman was not disabled. She was about 40. She walked on and off the plane by herself with no assistance, and during the 8 hour flight got up numerous times to go to the toilet and retrieve stuff from her bag in the overhead bin. But she told the flight attendants that she was "disabled", so she refused to ever put her seat in the upright position for the entire 8 hour flight. Needless to say I will never again fly on British Airways again. Now get off of my lawn!

Saint Croix said...

My favorite airport rant.

boatbuilder said...

If you are going somewhere where you are going to wear a sport coat while you are there, wearing said sport coat on the plane is the best way to transport it--as opposed to stuffing it in your carry-on.
But there are so few places to wear a sport coat these days.

Mason G said...

"There are sweatpants priced at $130..."

I recently bought a pair of sweatpants online through Walmart for $20. Quite comfortable. I cannot even begin to imagine what sort of benefit I might have gained from spending $100 more for a different pair.

HubFlyer said...

We never decided that wearing sweatpants was appropriate attire for air travel. Just as we never decided that one persons opinion on social media was speaking for all of us. But it seems many sites would rather get clicks than real discussion.
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