"...on his weekly television programme. He is rumoured to be one of the richest men in Venezuela, but insists he is but a 'humble soldier.' At night he tours Caracas in his bulletproof Toyota, rifle at the ready, reassuring his millions of TikTok viewers that all is calm in the homeland. This is the mad, bad and dangerous-to-know world of Diosdado Cabello: interior minister, head honcho of the security forces and possible roadblock to the Trump administration’s vision of a vassal-state Venezuela."
The London Times reports.
And look at that club! "Prehistoric," indeed. It's Flintstonesque:

(What is the origin of the phrase "mad, bad and dangerous-to-know"? It's something Lady Caroline Lamb wrote about her lover Lord Byron in 1812.)
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Yabba-Dabba-Dado!
I put the over/under number on this "badass" at 60 days.
He’s nothing a drone strike can’t eliminate. Though if he were smart he’d play nice with US in exchange for a cut of the oil business.
Bet he doesn't have a Flintstone car. When I was a kid, I was fascinated by the Flintstones foot-powered cars. I kept trying to make them make sense. What advantage were they over walking?
There is a bounty on him? Link
And look at that club! "Prehistoric," indeed. It's Flintstonesque
Plastic.
Sounds like the kind of article the NYT could extract from a conversation with a cab driver. How’s that fellow’s love affair with China going?
Found out about the bounty when I looked up his name because it shares a characteristic with Maduro's name. It's a noun name.
"Sentence Names: These are names that form complete statements or prayers. They are common in several cultures..."
Diosdado Cabello literally translates as Godgiven Hair. I Kid you not.
Cabello's future looks awful grim.
If that bump-covered club is a phallic symbol, now we have some venereal insight into the origin of the expression FAFO.
Going to get the Quaseem Solemani treatment in 3, 2, 1...
Lem: “ Diosdado Cabello literally translates as Godgiven Hair”
He’s Trump’s counterpart! Kind of like Jesus Bar-Abbas.
He needs to be the first one brought over here to lead the streetfighting militia. Sort of a Werner von Braun approach.
MACA! Make Americans Club Again! CC, JSM
“This is the mad, bad and dangerous-to-know world of Diosdado Cabello: interior minister, head honcho of the security forces and possible roadblock to the Trump administration’s vision of a vassal-state Venezuela.”
I marvel at the discretion The Times used in not adding “we hope” to the headline.
Contrast this with the amazing 180 degree turn-around puff piece that the NYT is running this morning on Delcy Rodriguez.
One would be forgiven for thinking the Times is setting her up as a preferred alternative to Maria Machado.
The clubs go up - who cares if it’s not mellow? No es mi departamente, says Diosdado Cabello. H/t Tom Lehrer. CC, JSM
Certainly the ace of clubs
ICE could use a leader like this.
He isn't a head of state- there will be no arrest and trial for him should he become a hindrance- a drone strike ends him instantly if required.
And to the commenter above- yes- the NYTimes is already working on Delcy Rodriguez' campaign for the next election.
"Vassal state"?
Benicio del Toro. Now, that's what I would call Godgiven Hair.
The universal collective left do not care about those living in poverty and ruin because the leftist-authoritarian ruler is a corrupt narco-terrorist/Communist dictator.
Leftists stand together in their "resist" arrogance.
"What advantage were they over walking?"
Made Dino transport easier also better to hold the carhop tray.
from the link:
NYT writer:
"The minister, with his piercing hazel eyes and cropped haircut"
A dreamboat!
(barf)
"The universal collective left do not care about those living in poverty and ruin because the leftist-authoritarian ruler is a corrupt narco-terrorist/Communist dictator."
Makes me wonder why we choked their economy with sanctions to the point that the largest oil deposits in the world were barely dribbling oil out of the ground. I mean, if all we had to do was wait for "socialism" to destroy the economy, why didn't 't we?
oops - sorry - London Times.
If journalists read a little more deeply they would know that “Flintstone—style club” is highly symbolic: it refers to an indigenous Amerindian homemade weapon, the boutoo, which some of Bolivar’s troops in the war of independence in the early 19th century took up when they had no firearms. It is a patriotic symbol of resistance.
But I would not assume as so many do that Delcy in reality isn’t at one with him. She is playing the good cop, he and Vladimir the defense minister the bad ones, But they’re very much part of the same team.
Here is the deal: a US company goes to lift crude oil from several bases in Venezuela but meets Cabello’s men at the gate providing protection to their sovereign crude assets, insisting that the US company can’t take the crude. The US company can’t execute lifting the crude and there is no US ground troops at the crude station to enforce against Cabello’s soldiers. So, what happens? That is the $100bn question to resolve and all those who think there is no risk to US companies taking Venezuela crude.
Jaq - huh. wonder what all those oil tankers are for then.
This guy needs to be gone - soon.
"Speak softly, and carry a big stick," was Theodore Roosevelt's foreign policy. Also the policy of Negan in "The Walking Dead." His bat didn't have warts, but it was wrapped in barbed wire (which is electrified in the sequel).
Howard said...
ICE could use a leader like this.
Wow you are really butthurt aren't you.
Not that I disagree with you. Trump is going way too easy on the people who got that retard woman killed.
I'm not only a client for Hair Club for Men, I'm also the President!
This guy is just a cog in the wheel. I doubt he has any real power anywhere. They probably found this picture and made up a story about it. A shiny thing to wave in front of the idiots who still read legacy media.
The Venezuelan Regime let all of the political prisoners from opposition parties go yesterday. There are a lot of really cool videos out about that.
Venezuela is consolidating right now and there is almost no bloodshed.
If you get your news from the corporate media you are just getting misinformation.
Is 'head honcho" racist? I know that 'Bad Hombre' is racist because this same paper said so.
hombre said...
This guy needs to be gone - soon.
He is likely not important in any way and this article is going to be stupid and wrong about almost everything.
I think it would be a mistake to think the Kleptocracy that has been pillaging Venezuela for the past 25 years is unsophisticated. While their tactics are brutal and tyrannical, that doesn't mean their organizational skills are not effective. They've managed to steal billions, mostly using the power of laws changed for their benefit, backed up by military and police forces. They've stolen from other countries, from multinational corporations, from their own population. And now finally, they are reduced to their sorry remaining subjects, who have nothing left to steal and nothing of value except induced fear. And note well, the thugs are still in control of that apparatus, even though missing its titular head. Hope is growing, help is coming, but there is a long way to go, many skirmishes ahead. Excellent training grounds for the special forces.
Top Venezuela Govt Official Accused of Drug Trafficking https://share.google/AHIJ0ieiOeQ2xCEsX
The Venezuelan Regime let all of the political prisoners from opposition parties go yesterday. There are a lot of really cool videos out about that.
I smelled bullshit, so I checked it out. It is bullshit. The government released nine political prisoners, which is a far cry from "all".
The club made me think of Captain Caveman.
I can see him yelling Captaiinn Caaavemaaaann!
The allegations go back to 2004, around the time he became interior ministet
The club is laughable, but I can understand Venezuelans being terrified of what the security service could do to them.
I wonder what the over/under is for him to be alive In February in the London betting market.
"better to hold the carhop tray."
Ha!
He waa a linchpin in the regime because of his proximity to chavez and subsequent roles
Aggie 11:39
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Nice that the people who turned Venezuela into rubble have their own Barney Rubble.
Thats a very thinly sourced piece
China should cut this guy off Tik Tok. He’s embarrassing them.
Peace to the communist means no opposition,
Diosdado Cabello: "The country is calm because the monopoly on arms in Venezuela is held by the State". "Holding the position of arms has allowed us the control so that no group or anyone can claim acts of violence"
from, https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2026/01/venezuela_s_top_thug_unwittingly_writes_an_nra_ad_for_the_second_amendment.html
That may be the least scary looking club I've ever seen. It just makes you laugh. Speak loud and carry a funny club.
The best way to handle Cabello is to deny funding to the interior ministry. Getting Rodriquez on board along with Padrino, the head of the defense ministry, may be sufficient if Cabello proves strident. It may be also be the preferred way. If Cabello's capos and foot soldiers stop getting paid, loyalty will eventually evaporate.
Somewhat of a parallel was general ali ahmar of yemen he controlled the lead army division but also a huge cut of foreign aid and other revenues
How does one country change the political governing structures of another country?
This is what Clausewitz means by war being politics by other means. War is an instrument to change the governing structure of someone else in some fashion to some end.
Today's sloppy definition is "regime change." There is an enduring fantasy, particularly among Republicans, that regime change will result in favorable outcomes and that successful regime change is the result of some magic elixir called "victory."
The violence of force creates a new governing structure through either conventional force military victory (Germany and Japan 1945) or revolution (France, Russia, China).
Revolutions overthrow a governing structure when an insurgent force overthrows a structure's conventional forces (police and military).
The US, a big imperial enterprise, developed special forces as a tool to fight insurgent forces attempting overthrows of nation states receptive to the imperial enterprise (trade and capital at favorable terms). Generally, the internal political forces inside a country political forces inside a country supporting an indigenous insurgency are too powerful to be countered by forces supported by external non-national powers. The insurgents eventually win. (China 1949, Saigon 1975 etc).
Counterinsurgency use of special forces has a long history of failure (and great success on Hollywood screens suggesting that Deep State influence operations at least work there).
At first glance, the US use of special forces in Caracas looked like a regime change operation -- the special forces were going to be the spark plug to mobilizing insurgent forces inside Venezuela towards creating a new and hopefully improved regime. But apparently not. The US is just changing gang leaders to achieve a different distribution of the boodle (which has been the traditional goal of most US gunboat operations in the Caribbean republics).
Turning Venezuela into an oil-producing cornucopia looks as
likely as the Gaza Riviera.
Sounds like the Venezuelan Donald Trump.
If this experiment in regime change nation building in Venezuela fails, will it ever be tried again? I'm betting yes. The temptation when you have the capability is just too strong. In the future a huge force of drones will be deployed to find and kill everyone in the regime, and then just wait with the clear message that it can be repeated if things don't go as wanted. At some point we might welcome such an attack on ourselves.
"Cabello, a 62-year-old army captain" What? That doesn't track in my Army.
Some commenters are setting the bar for operational success awfully high. We would like to help the Venezuelans return to stability, civil rights and order. We would like to get the thieves to disgorge their stolen monies. What we really need to do is to put an end to the use of Venezuela as a money, oil, and subversion factory by China, Russia, Iran and Cuba. We hope that will get us the other things we would like.
"there's a man in the funny papers we all know
Lived way back a long time ago
He don't eat nothing but Bearcats stew
This cats name is AllyOop
John Henry
I think this is all about Trump's small penis. There is a reason that his trophy wife sleeps in a separate bedroom away from him in the White House bedroom. Good for her. She is just Trump's trophy wife after Trump ditching his multiple wives I sincerely hope that she can have real love in her remaining life, but I doubt it.
Remember when Brandon told us that an insurrection in the us wod fail because usg has jets and nukes?
Apparently the Iranians, with virtually no civilian arms ownership, have not gotten the word.
What stops this in Venezuela?
John Henry
Here, Peachy:
Sanctions on Venezuelan oil production were significantly expanded in August 2017 under the Trump administration, which included a full oil embargo announced in January 2019.
Now look at the graph of Venezuelan oil production and what happened to it starting then, there is a very helpuful chart in this story:
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/how-venezuela-pulled-its-oil-production-out-tailspin-2021-12-27/
Don't worry, I don't expect you to acknowledge the fact of the matter when you are getting such a rush out of this whole war. It's part of stoicism that I accept that this is the case.
Venezuela has been, in the past, the largest producer of oil in the world, and fueled a large part of our war effort in WWII, and they are nowhere near out of oil.
no, thats not how it works, and we see until recently there were no teeth in the sanctions regime,
as the regime either imprisoned or exiled, capable personnel the oil industry began to decompose,
Alley oop!
Trump has been married three times and divorced twice, the only US president with that marital infidelity history. But who in MAGA land cares? He is a whore monger, and no one in MAGA land seems to care. He can brag about divorcing multiple wives and bragging about grabbing women's pussies, and having sex with porn stars like Stormy Daniels, but everyone in MAGA land thinks this is a good thing to be celebrated. MAGA celebrates marital infidelity every day, and MAGA supports this. MAGA celebrates gay sex and gay marriage very day as Trump holds gay marriage celebrations at Maro Lago with the homosexual bands like The Village People, MAGA celebrates the victory of Russia over Ukraine every day, saying that Ukraine started the war with Russia,. MAGA celebrates shooting and killing protestors in the street who oppose MAGA. When will it ever end?
it was the founder of opec, one of humble (exxon) major concessions, under carlos andres perez it supported most of their welfare state, then the collapse of the barrel price, did lead to serious dislocation, during the lusinchi administration
red band the succesor the first generation of marxist guerillas, (where Chavez and many of his ministers come from
the prologue to these events were when cap, promised the people to restore the welfare state, and promised the inf austerity, when he won, the imposition of the latter, caused el Caracazo, Chavez came along a few years later, along with Cabello, (the military did not vet his bonafides carefully,), he was imprisoned till another dinosaur Caldera let him loose,
the coup attempt along with other unrest, shook investor confidence in Venezuela, even more than the 82 recession,
and chavez took advantage of that,
Is it true that “we choked their economy with sanctions”? The Venezuelan economy collapsed in 2014; sanctions were imposed in 2019. Socialism caused the collapse, and brutal tyranny caused the sanctions.
after the first election, he became a major figure in the ruling party, and along with cilia flores, founded the bolivarian circles,the stalinist bloc committee system, and was also the head of the telecom network, later chavez's chief of staff, and other position, his paramilitary connections, belie his formal titles that really came into being in 2024, as minister of the interior,
at some point between the assumption of chief of staff and other political offices, he formed the Sun Cartel, which is the basis for the indictment,
how the Times didn't really touch on any of these significant aspects of the profile, the truth is out there,
"thats not how it works, and we see until recently there were no teeth in the sanctions regime,"
And yet the collapse in oil production coincided with these "toothless" sanctions.
The there is always a propaganda campaign to go along with the imposition of sanctions. That way we are not meanies, but the other side are incompetent, deluded, and evil.
It's just hard to accept how complicit our media is in these campaigns, when we are used to thinking of them as relatively honest. But it could be worse, I was just watching a report from Deutch Welle or however it's spelled, and they were spouting lies about the attack on Putin that Dr Weevil could have written, even as they were contradicted by both CIA sources in the New York Times "We weren't exactly aiming precisely at his house..." Which Trump also said, the Germans are being told by their trusted media that it was a "false flag" by Russia to justify escalations. Talk about confession by projection.
I left out, the little detail of a devastating storm, that happened in 2000, that reportedly killed 50,000 people, while chavez was resting on margarita island
it's ironic because of sean penn's embrace of chavez, and his screed over Katrina, which was a microcosm of the events I noted
after 2002, they jailed the head of the oil workers union,
(the coup might have succeeded if the military officer, in charge, hadn't allowed him to call out,
much capital departed from there,
I have been these events for more than 30 years, and not merely in the blank pages of the Times and the Post,
And yet, the production only dropped slightly in 2000, and didn't fall off of a cliff until Trump's sanctions.
I made a mistake, I stopped consuming corporate media about 8 or 10 years ago, mostly because of the lies about Trump, but that leaves me out of touch with the lies that I am supposed to believe as a patriotic American.
would we be surprised at the valdai strike, considering what happened at the openng of the most recent Ukrainian war,
which ended up more like Grozny, in 94, rather than Kabul in 79
Jaq said...
"thats not how it works, and we see until recently there were no teeth in the sanctions regime,"
And yet the collapse in oil production coincided with these "toothless" sanctions.
The collapse in oil production coincided with all of the engineers and trained labor fleeing the country.
Oil extraction is extremely skilled labor intensive.
John henry said...
Remember when Brandon told us that an insurrection in the us wod fail because usg has jets and nukes?
Apparently the Iranians, with virtually no civilian arms ownership, have not gotten the word.
What stops this in Venezuela?
Right now the US.
There is clearly a plan to make Venezuela a safe country to do business in and Trump doesn't want the people to kill the current government in a bloody revolution.
it was sometime around this time, that the regime started bribing the kennedy braintrust, michael and joe the third,
(I use the braintrust term advisedly) with discounts on heating oil, a good collop for the Castro regime, that was their minder and other countries in South and Central America
how they took over Argentina after the default caused by the interest rate spike,
which toppled the precarious provincial debt structure, apart from menem's reforms,
Jaq: "they are nowhere near out of oil."
In other words, they are, too, tarred? CC, JSM
I know you can't fill all of these angles into one story, but mercy, that is one thin profile, that does nothing to illuminate the issues at hand,
So he waves a bullshit Flintstone club... USA waves a not-so-bullshit Blue Light team and stealth ships....
not to mention, the flood of false passports sold to al queda and hezbollah operatives, that happened at this time,
also in the time of operation cassandra,
I wonder if Senor Cabello has seen "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and the scene where the guy in a turban waves a sword around, to his eventual detriment when Indiana Jones shoots him?
There is no way this man is a Venezuelan biker. He has no flattened nose, neither of his eyes has a droopy lower lid, and no part of either ear has been cut off.
Lonejustus employs projection in his failed attempts to mitigate his inadequacy.
Sometimes one warning isn't enough.
this involved the interdiction of a hezbollah smuggling ring out of venezuela that involved west africa and western europe
now could some of these reports be wrong, perhaps, but all of them?
US oil giant ExxonMobil tells Donald Trump Venezuela is ‘uninvestable’ ~ Politico
This is dead in the water: Before the first drop of oil is pumped out of a new well, Trump will be out of power. Pillaging other countries is
This is dead in the water: Before the first drop of oil is pumped out of a new well, Trump will be out of power. Pillaging other countries is illegal, so any guarantees he signs will not be honored by the next government which will argue that the companies would have been able to recognize that Trump cannot bind the American state and tax payer to support his Mafia business.
The only firms getting some revenues temporarily would be those with existing investments which can increase production immediately -- if they want to take the risk to be sanctioned by the rest of the world.
In a more liberal age, progressives would use these clubs ti abort "burdens".
thats why rosneft and hna, has been investing billions in their industry, but of course,
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/venezuela-approves-15-year-extension-russia-linked-oil-joint-ventures-2025-11-20/
Kakistocracy said...
This is dead in the water: Before the first drop of oil is pumped out of a new well, Trump will be out of power. Pillaging other countries is illegal, so any guarantees he signs will not be honored by the next government which will argue that the companies would have been able to recognize that Trump cannot bind the American state and tax payer to support his Mafia business.
The only firms getting some revenues temporarily would be those with existing investments which can increase production immediately -- if they want to take the risk to be sanctioned by the rest of the world.
He is just trying to post the dumbest predictions possible.
that was actually a small committment compared what has been contemplated,
Venezuela has an estimated 303 billion barrels of proven oil reserves. At the current market price of about $59 per barrel, but there's a major catch. Roughly 90% of these reserves are extra-heavy crude in the Orinoco Belt, where the break-even cost for new production is estimated at around $80 per barrel. At today's prices, it literally costs more to get the oil out of the ground than you can sell it for.
Plus, the $59 price usually refers to lighter benchmarks like WTI or Brent. Heavy crude like Venezuela's requires much more processing and sells at a steep discount. Similar heavy grades, like Canadian oil, are trading closer to $45 per barrel.
Bot behavior.
👆Surely you can do the math...
Let's face it: these are international public companies with fiduciary duties to their shareholders first—not to the United States.
"If you don’t want to go in, just let me know, because I’ve got 25 people that aren’t here today that are willing to take your place." ~ Donald Trump
This is transparently a classic real estate agent's pressure tactic—a salesman’s trick to rush a buyer into closing on a questionable deal. It feels almost straight out of the script from David Mamet’s Pulitzer-winning play Glengarry Glen Ross, where high-stakes hustlers use scarcity and urgency to push weak products.
Exxon’s CEO, Darren Woods, stands out as the only one thinking rationally here. As a skilled operator, he bluntly states the obvious truth: Venezuela is currently uninvestable due to its history of asset seizures, shaky legal frameworks, and lack of durable protections. Yet he diplomatically placates Trump, expressing confidence that the administration can work with the new Venezuelan leadership to sort it out and make the necessary changes.
I don't think that's a plastic club, by the way. There's a tree that grows in Texas called, variously, 'Toothache tree, Chalupa ironwood, prickly ash'. It's called the first name because you can cut a sliver of the bark off and put it against your gum - it contains an alkaloid and will numb it, just like novacain. The Native Americans and settlers used it all the time.
The tree also has knobs like this, all over its surface. It's also called 'Hercules Club', and its latin name is Zanthoxylum clava-herculis. Just guessing this might be a vanity accessory for the well-appointed thug.
’…the break-even cost for new production…’
Who said anything about new production? Older and/or current wells could be restored or brought up to current operatonal standards. Nice strawman, though…
And if you think this club looks silly, the wood is fairly dense - so get back to me after he applies one of those silly-looking bumps to your shin bone.
Jaq can’t seem to stop lying about me or Ukraine. He insists (3:08pm) that the CIA has confirmed the alleged attack on Putin’s palace, but when I Bing “did CIA confirm Valdai attack” all four results (New York Times, Moscow Times [!] quoting WSJ, CNN, and International Business Times UK) have variations on “CIA Finds Ukraine Did Not Attack Putin’s Valdai Residence”.
Just yesterday he insisted it was Putin’s alleged mistress and daughter, not Putin, that were in Valdai, but now it’s Putin. I pointed out that the current locations of all three would be state secrets, and asked whether he still claimed that the Iranians trying to overthrow their brutal tyranny are paid CIA stooges. No answer, of course. Interesting that the CIA are good or evil, as needed, in Donqeyland.
The bulk of Venezuelan production was and is not from the Orinoco but from Lake Maracaibo and the north coast. Thats where production collapsed. That is heavy and "sour" but not extra heavy crude.
In any case, the case of fracking shows that improvements in technology can make what may seem at one time like economically unattractive resources viable. At one time shale oil seemed like an inaccessible resource. Look at the Permian basin now.
Kak is very bot like. Recall his obsession with tariffs.
I think this is all about Trump's small penis.
But of course you do.
Kakistocracy said...
Let's face it: these are international public companies with fiduciary duties to their shareholders first—not to the United States.
When China and Russia and Iran were trading with Venezuela the oil was worth taking out of the ground at a discount.
Now that the USA is going to get the wells going again it is worthless and will cost 80$ a barrel to refine according to some recently published sources.
He is just trying to look as stupid as possible.
lonejustice said...
I think this is all about Trump's small penis. There is a reason that his trophy wife sleeps in a separate bedroom away from him in the White House bedroom. Good for her. She is just Trump's trophy wife after Trump ditching his multiple wives I sincerely hope that she can have real love in her remaining life, but I doubt it.
I feel bad for you.
WCS, Western Canadian Select, is Canada’s heavy oil. Similar to Venezuelan heavy oil. WCS is about $13 per bbl cheaper and the refining cost penalty at a plant that is based on heavy bitumen is $4 to $5 based on catalyst etc. so it’s cheaper than what you would expect, because transport costs are high. Beiden canceled the Keystone XL pipeline which royally screwed Canada and the gulf coast refiners by stopping an additional 800kpd supply of WCS.
Gulf coast refiners are screaming for heavy oil. And tanker supply is not a problem, no sanction no politics. Current lift from Venezuela to US is about 100kpd. So why does anyone say that it’s not profitable to use that oil? China and India are using it now? Oil execs are bargaining and dealing. Trying to fake out and get subsidies.
Guyana’s new oil that Maduro wanted to steal is light and medium sweet so gulf coast refiners won’t like it.
In summary, Venezuelan oil is very marketable on the us gulf coast, and would justify capital under a rule of law.
Gulf coast refiners are screaming for heavy oil, because Gulf coast refineries were designed and built to process Venezuelan heavy crudes. Citgo, the wholly-owned Venezuelan company, has a refineries in Lake Charles and Corpus Christi, for crying out loud.
When a nation's collapse takes 25 years to complete, the slow pace makes it easy to lose sight of the immense scale of the tragedy. But it does provide unshakeable proof that Yes, eventually you actually do run out of other people's money.
LJ: "I think this is all about Trump's small penis."
...with which he has banged models and porn starlets. Sounds like it's fit for purpose. His purposes, anyway.
Doesn't matter if you've got a two-hander, if both hands are always yours. CC, JSM
Democrats are OK with white house cigars in intern's hoohoos.
why are leftist men so obsessed with Trump's penis?
Do you all gorge yourselves on that idiotic show South Park?
I dont let ritmo distract me
Data republican had many of the receipts about maduro and co
I wonder if his security detail is Cuban. Whoever they are, I bet they asked for a substantial raise after what happened to their counterparts on the Maduro team. If they're Cuban, do they get the raise or is the money remanded back to Cuba......I guess it's possible for the current leaders to bow out gracefully........When the Khmer Rouge regime collapsed, the managers and mass murderers integrated back into society. I think some of them might have apologized, but that was it. Some exceptions, but if you want to commit mass murder, do it for a leftist cause. It's pretty much shrugged off.
buwaya
You said the other day that it would take two years to oil production up and running again, I'm going to say six months.
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