From "China embraced population control. The damage may be irreversible. Despite the communist government’s efforts, women won’t have more children" by the Editorial Board of The Washington Post.
1. Taiwan has an even lower birth rate than China.
2. "loneliness eternally grates on the soul" — That was not a phrase I expected from the Editorial Board of The Washington Post.
3. I've seen so much social media touting the joy of a single life for women. There's a viral TikTok audio that begins with an ominous sounding warning of women about what will happen if they don't marry and continuing with a list of good things like having a clean, well-decorated house, peace and quiet, and the company of music, books, friends, and pets. And here are the WaPo editors anguishing over the solitude of the Chinese. Hmm.
4. I'm also surprised WaPo editors didn't try harder to align their language with the belief in the right to have abortions. These 2 sentences (not quoted above) jumped out at me: "Forced abortions and sterilizations, combined with fines and propaganda, snuffed out many millions of lives. Unborn girls were particularly victimized because of sex-selective abortions."
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Planned parenthood.
How would you align it? The framing is pretty stark. Best to just ignore it and move on no? "Forced" and "Sex-selective" are probably good enough for their audience.
Xi is not dumber than Hitler, so that means no invasion of Taiwan. President Trump is smarter than Winston Churchill, so he can avoid a disastrous war- all while beefing up forces in Japan and South Korea. No, the people of Taiwan are in no danger, and the Shen Yun performing arts group shows why.
“That is complicating China’s war-planning efforts because the massive casualties required to invade Taiwan would mean many families lose their only child, who they’re counting on to take care of them in old age. Decades of sex-selective abortions have resulted in severe gender imbalances. Because there are tens of millions more men than women, dating or marriage — let alone procreation — is impossible for many.”
The time-honored solution to too many men is a war. The families will just have to take one for the Party.
Delegated population control through religious sanction is the progressive choice in liberal societies. Keep women affordable, available, reusable, and taxable, and the "burden" of evidence aborted, sequestered. A wicked solution with forward-looking benefits.
According to some (Zeihan most vocally) there are only 1/2 or 2/3 the number of Chinese as the CCP claims.
T.S. for them, but I count that as a success for the tribe that counts (mine).
Immigration reform, obviously.
The Sexual Revolution was a tragic mistake, for everybody.
You want to kill a country? Just adopt a materialist understanding of human life.
I agree Xi not dumb enough to try huge amphibious operation with no experience whatever. But quarantine plausible.
To the Chinese credit, planned parenthood was implemented with force, not her Choice.
why aren’t the worlds poor clamoring to obtain entrance to China?
Proof that socialists/communists only fuck things up and nothing else.
“I've seen so much social media touting the joy of a single life for women. There's a viral TikTok audio that begins with an ominous sound warning women about what will happen if they don't marry and continuing with a list of good things like having a clean, well-decorated house, peace and quiet, and the company of music, books, friends, and pets.”
Hee—sounds pretty convincing to me. No wonder TikTok is banned in China.
Re point no. 3 - have you seen social media from Chinese women touting the benefits of being childless, or just generally? I would treat that point differently depending on the answer.
The time-honored solution to too many men is a war. The families will just have to take one for the Party.
Unfortunately for the Chinese, however, they literally do not have replacement forces once the casualties start piling up.
And of course the WaPo won't think of riffing on the general topic of the frailties of centralized long-term planning. Or analogizing to the specific centralized long-term planning it advocates for climate change.
Or asking what other long-term plans those sneaky ChiComs may also be messing up. Does their air defense work as well as their population planning, for example? CC, JSM
No, the people of Taiwan are in no danger, and the Shen Yun performing arts group shows why.
I am having some trouble making this intellectual leap. Please explain yourself in greater detail.
But not to dump completely on the ChiComs - they have too many military-age males for their military (most of our peers do). It's difficult to get into the PLA. So if they take casualties, there will be a lot of dudes lining up to replace them. Who replaces them in 20 years is another story. CC, JSM
Narr said...
According to some (Zeihan most vocally) there are only 1/2 or 2/3 the number of Chinese as the CCP claims.
T.S. for them, but I count that as a success for the tribe that counts (mine).
Zeihan predicting Chinese doom is batting about the same average as the global warming cult predicting ice caps melting.
I have family over there and get first hand accounts. Their health care system is so much better than ours that I have family who moved to China from here because of it.
But China has real corruption problems and the society is very low trust. A lot of people own houses and are paying mortgages for things that don't exist.
I would put their actual population somewhere between 500m and 1b.
Spinster City - where cats take their lonely owners to dinner,
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Serious Question:
How MANY People Are There, in China?
do you know? Why do you think that you do?
..The time-honored solution to too many men is a war. The families will just have to take one for the Party..
It's true that over population was the cause of Most wars
(even the Crusades.. Especially The Crusades)
BUT!
China DOESN'T have "too many men".. They have TOO FEW WOMEN
"[China's] health care system is so much better than ours . . .
I hear the NICUs are world beaters!
Gilbar, I don't know how many people there are in China; it may well be that they don't know, either.
At any rate, Eurasia could well turn into yet another bloody shambles for any number of good or bad reasons. China's demographics are just a component.
doctrev refers to one Winston Churchill, unable to avoid a disastrous war. Was that Churchill the one who became PM of Britain eight months after the war started?
I am amazed that WaPo said "unborn girls" and not something like "unborn females-identified-at-birth".
Can the WP editors fail to grasp that they have been pushing one child propaganda for decades? And that the anti-family anti growth bias has come from the so-called elite that they champion? This should be telling us that verbally agile idiots have been in charge for way too long.
gilbar: "(even the Crusades.. Especially The Crusades)"
Sorry but I have to mount my hobbyhorse. The Crusades were operational counter-offensives in an overall strategic defense by Christian Europe. CC, JSM
john mosby said...
The Crusades were operational counter-offensives in an overall strategic defense by Christian Europe.
I was paraphrasing Heinlein. I USED to straight agree with him.
Then i didn't
NOW, i agree with him AGAIN, *BUT* the overpopulation was on the Arab side.
China is asshoe.
They dont actually read their own paper
> They dont actually read their own paper
Well, why would they? They know better than anyone else what it's made of.
Write me a sonnet with the line "loneliness grates eternally on the soul"
The silent hours creep on with heavy pace,
While shadows stretch across the empty room,
No voice relieves the stillness of this place,
And sunlight fades into a deeper gloom.
I watch the world go bustling swiftly by,
Yet feel anchored in a stagnant sea,
Beneath an vast and unresponsive sky,
Loneliness grates eternally on the soul.
The bitter frost of absence binds the heart,
And echoes whisper tales of what is gone,
I act upon this stage a lonely part,
Before the breaking of a distant dawn.
Though time may offer silence as a friend,
It is a sorrow that will never end.
Who says computers don't have emotions?
I wish I could tamp down their enthusiasm for adjectives though.
WaPo Ed Board is a bit better, hostess. Not as reflexive hard left.
No its gotten worse in the last few years
Did you watch the film Rental Family? This was based on a real organization. And with the outsourcing of family duties to daycare or outside help for kids (and adults) is because the economics make it difficult for caregivers to work and care for their families if they work full time. (40 million Americans are caregivers, part of full time, yet this is never discussed)/
Hassayamper said...
I am having some trouble making this intellectual leap. Please explain yourself in greater detail.
1/20/26, 4:36 PM
Denied. Maybe someone else in the class will help you. I might circle back if no one does.
“Their health care system is so much better than ours that I have family who moved to China from here because of it.“
Absurd. Maybe they should join Rosie O’Donnell and Inga’s relatives in Israel and have a party.
That is complicating China’s war-planning efforts because the massive casualties required to invade Taiwan would mean many families lose their only child, who they’re counting on to take care of them in old age.
Yep. Every dead soldier gives you 6 adults (2 parents, 4 grandparents) whose entire future has been destroyed by the gov't. People who will have no reason to NOT go violently after the gov't.
1. Taiwan has an even lower birth rate than China.
Even if true, irrelevant. "Invade Taiwan" is a choice, "resist invasion" is a necessity.
The birth dearth makes it impossible for the commies to invade Taiwan unless they're positive that neither Taiwan nor the US will resist.
That certainly won't be true so long as Trump is President
Smilin' Jack said...
The time-honored solution to too many men is a war. The families will just have to take one for the Party.
Nope.
That was a "time honored solution" when families had multiple sons, so losing one wouldn't devastate them.
The families have no reason to "take one for the Party", when that "one" is their entire future
Readering said...
I agree Xi not dumb enough to try huge amphibious operation with no experience whatever. But quarantine plausible.
1: US Navy would take a blockading Chinese navy apart like a dead chicken.
2: China can't survive without open sea lanes. They try to shut off Taiwan's their's get closed. And don't get opened until the Party is dead
john mosby said...
But not to dump completely on the ChiComs - they have too many military-age males for their military (most of our peers do). It's difficult to get into the PLA. So if they take casualties, there will be a lot of dudes lining up to replace them.
What makes you think Chinese males will want to join a Chinese military where they face a real risk of getting killed?
I have a cousin who went to Annapolis. Both he and his mom were VERY shocked by 9/11, and the thought he might actually face fighting, and dying.
Do you have some reason to believe those Chinese males are joining the PLA to fight and die for the CCP, as opposed to because it's a job with "3 hots & a cot"?
What makes you think Chinese males will want to join a Chinese military where they face a real risk of getting killed?
There are a multitude of reasons. Patriotism, glory, sense of invincibility, belief in propaganda. Or the most likely reason: conscription.
There was a feminist who wrote about sex-selection abortions in Asia, and how anti-feminist it was to abort all those girls. And how dangerous it was. And pro-lifers would quote her book and it would drive her up the wall. "Ahhhhh! I'm not a pro-lifer! Quit quoting my book, you damn pro-lifers!"
She wanted abortions, she just wanted equitable abortions. The lopsided number of baby girl abortions upset her. But she couldn't acknowledge unborn girls were human beings or anything like that.
"She wanted abortions, she just wanted equitable abortions. The lopsided number of baby girl abortions upset her."
If there is nothing wrong with abortions, why would the ratio matter?
"What makes you think Chinese males will want to join a Chinese military where they face a real risk of getting killed?"
Are you serious?
They will go where they are told to go. Do you not understand what "Communist" means? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
Aught Severn said...
There are a multitude of reasons. Patriotism, glory, sense of invincibility, belief in propaganda. Or the most likely reason: conscription.
You have said nothing. Yes, there are a multitude of potential reasons. For which of those reasons to you have evidence that they actually apply? Any?
Aught Severn said...
Or the most likely reason: conscription
Rustygrommet said...
They will go where they are told to go. Do you not understand what "Communist" means? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
You both are completely missing the point: If the CCP gets a significant number of their troops killed, they will face, and lose, a civil war, because as I pointed out above, each dead troop leads to about 6 adults who want everyone in the gov't dead
If the troops are only there because they're forced, then significant casualties or the probability of such are likely to lead to troop revolts, and an even faster fall.
GregTCT is correct. We're no longer in a world where every family has some spare sons, and the mere fact that one has been conscripted doesn't turn one into a willing, effective soldier.
With 10,000,000 excess males, China should be a leader in AI porn for the next half century.
If the CCP gets a significant number of their troops killed, they will face, and lose, a civil war, because as I pointed out above, each dead troop leads to about 6 adults who want everyone in the gov't dead
As John Derbyshire once observed, this sort of thing is not much affected by government threats to make people compliantly shut up. What's the worst they can do to you? Kill your kids?
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