ADDED: Who else in in the Injustice Hall of Fame? Well, Tolstoy never won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize. Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick never won a Best Director Oscar. The Monkees are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Ken Doll is not in the National Toy Hall of Fame. And Hillary didn't get to be President.
Bill Belichick and Tom Brady should be inducted into the Hall of Fame at the same time. Brady doesn’t become eligible until 2028, because players have a 5 year wait from retirement while coaches have only a 1 year wait.
I suppose the reason for that difference is that coaches are more likely to die within 5 years of retirement than players. On the other hand, maybe Belichick should not be eligible as he is still actively coaching college football.
It will be a cloud on this year’s inductees, who each will be compared to Bill Belichick.
I read some things yesterday speculating why this obviously qualified coaching candidate was not selected.
What was not mentioned - maybe it was elsewhere - is that Bill was often a prick to the media, known for giving one word or short mumbled answers during press Q/As.
I'm not a fan of him or the Patriots (nor of the media) but the snub seems pretty ridiculous.
If Hillary had been just like Hillary, except without the habitual lying, habitual corruption and was a likeable natural leader, she would have been president.
It’s quite possible that one of the inductees that was elected over Bill Belichick is Patriots owner Robert Kraft. If so, that sets up the possibility of Kraft in 2026, Belichick in 2027, and Brady in 2028. That would be a fitting way to honor the dynasty.
If the toy companies would put out a Hilary doll, she might at least make the Toy Hall of Fame, complete with pantsuit, accessories, and a tiny little basket.
"There was this kid I grew up with; he was younger than me. Sorta looked up to me, you know. We did our first work together, worked our way out of the street. Things were good, we made the most of it. During Prohibition, we ran molasses into Canada... made a fortune, your father, too. As much as anyone, I loved him and trusted him. Later on he had an idea to build a city out of a desert stop-over for GI's on the way to the West Coast. That kid's name was Moe Greene, and the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a great man, a man of vision and guts. And there isn't even a plaque, or a signpost or a statue of him in that town! "
To be hated only makes Belichick that much more awesome, considering he’s the GOAT and nobody else comes even close. Belichick is the Brigitte Bardot of sports.
Who's got the worst record: The Academy Awards or the Nobel Committee? Well, anyway they're still in business. Not much prestige is attached to the Lenin Peace Prize......I suppose there's a useful lessons here somewhere. Human beings just aren't very good at looking beyond their moment and their moods to what constitutes enduring merit.
Per Gemini the primary voting on HOF membership is done by the media.
"The committee consists of 50 people, primarily media, but also includes some Hall of Fame coaches, players, and front-office members."
It takes a supermajority (80% approval) to be inducted. Are there enough coaches on the committee to spike his induction? Possible but I think unlikely.
You're such a coward. Stealth deleting comments. I guess your regular readers won't notice that you're doing it because they aren't intelligent enough to figure out how you're manipulating them.
G.N. Lewis never won the Nobel in Chemistry despite being nominated 35 times. Freshman chemistry students all learn Lewis structures. I wrote some praise back here He had a mysterious death.
Even all those other examples are less unjust than Belichick's treatment. He deserves to have a statue on top of the Injustice Hall of Fame, which by tradition, would have his name spelled wrong. Maybe they could get that guy who did the Lucille Ball statue to make it.
If it was up to me, I'd take the vote away from sportswriters, a notoriously mediocre alcoholic bunch.
This is what Matt Taibbi says about journalists generally. I only know one (former) journalist, and while she covered some good stories and some interesting people, she was strictly small-time. But she can hold her liquor, as they used to say!
And Hillary only amazi didn't get to be President.
Only amazingly stupid, gullible people think she was ever a competent politician, or would have made a competent President. Joe Biden showed us what happens when a personally corrupt and incompetent individual is elected President of the United States.
I thank a merciful God for this, and I’m an agnostic.
The US population is around 330 million. Women who are natural US citizens aged 35 or greater probably total for 80-100 million of the population. Given that, I have to believe there are better women than Hillary and Harris to run for the presidency. Hillary is a truly awful human being and Harris is hopelessly incompetent. Are the best women the country has to offer? If so, that’s a truly depressing thought.
Bill Polian "can't remember" if he voted for Belichick. Right. My unfounded take as a 60-year Patriots fan is that Polian engineered this as a "favor" to his buddy Kraft so that Kraft and Belichick don't go in together, and Kraft gets there first. (Don't believe Kraft's public statements--if you watched the Kraft-funded Netflix series on the Pats, you will get some small sense of how much they despise each other, and how much Kraft wants public acclaim). Belichick is truly an asshole to reporters, so it doesn't seem to be too big a stretch to think that a bunch of them would be receptive to making Belichick "wait a year." High school never really ends, apparently.
Belichick may have the second most NFL wins of all time but karma remains undefeated.
Don't worry, he'll eventually be invited to the prom.
All HOFs are popularity contests. One's failure to be elected in, to not be elected in, or to not be elected in one's first year of eligibility but then be elected later, does not in any way, shape, or form elevate or diminish what one did. HOF status only really matters to the uninformed or obsessed.
All that said, if Pujols isn't unanimously elected to the baseball HOF in his first year of eligibility, I'll be outraged and you'll never be able to convince me that the voter(s) who didn't vote for Pujols was just some NY sportswriter(s) wanting to protect Rivera's status as the only unanimous selection.
One that I've thought about recently. A kind of obscure thought. The British singer/songwriter, Joe Jackson. How the hell is Joe Jackson NOT in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame??
He was an early on star of punk rock. Later had more mainstream hits. Has written and recorded virtually all styles of music. Had a great album of old swing tunes (Jumpin' Jive). Wrote a symphony. And has been producing great music, and touring, for decades. He's been an amazing songwriter/singer for decades. I mean...they've put the Eurythmics and Steve Miller in the Hall of Fame for crying out loud. Different for Girls.
I stand with Pauline Kael: Oscars are meaningless. Overall, Kael regarded the Oscars with a mix of cynicism and resignation: entertaining in their absurdity at times, but rarely aligned with genuine quality or the films she valued most. She treated them as a cultural symptom rather than a serious arbiter of excellence. Everything above after "meaningless" provided by Grok.
Belichek has never established coaching chops without Tom Brady, the GOAT. But with Brady, he was among the best with a supporting cast that turned over about three times over 20 years. Belichek did one thing that I have never seen anywhere else: He would cut or trade a player who was near the top of his game on the theory that it was better to move on from a player a year early than a year late.
We could house the Injustice hall of fame next to the academy of the overrated. The case of Tolstoy is very strange, especially when you look at the writers who got the prize prior to 1910.
The football HOF has never had the impact that the BB HOF has. Probably because no one cares much about anything other then stars. Which means the QB-RB-WR and the head coach. The funniest thing about old timey football is how LBs and Defensive lineman used to be so famous. Now, they're not - but they make x10 the money.
I read somewhere that he was denied because he was a cradle robber. That's kind of like denying Morgan Freeman an Oscar because you don't like his girlfriend.
Interesting that social media is going after his girlfriend, and not him. Probably because he's not on social media and doesn't give a damn.
It's funny to me that the same liberals who normalize homosexuality and bisexuality and transsexuality, flip the fuck out when straight people date outside their age bracket.
I always loved the videos where someone would go out and ask people on the street what Hillary has ever accomplished, then the same thing with Harris. Crickets. How hard would it be to find a woman with plenty of impressive accomplishments. If I was a woman I'd be insulted by those choices. Same with Obama, nothing before running for President. They also belong in The Hall of Injustice, but in a special section for those who never deserved the fame they got. Why do Democrats end up with such unqualified people so often. More infuriating is that they vote for them in large numbers. It's some kind of mental quirk.
The other possibility is that he's not a really good coach. UNC is ransoming undergrads and the faculty lounge to pay his salary, and UNC football is worse than ever.
It makes people suspect that he was riding on the Tom Brady express. Cynical people might suggest that any twit could win a lot of games, if Tom Brady was your quarterback. I would be a genius, for instance.
Finally, what's really funny about the Hall of Fame (at least in baseball, this is true) is that the journalists who vote are mean as shit, and are often keeping out very talented people who deserve to be in. Meanwhile the "veterans committee," made up of old, boozy ballplayers, is constantly letting in every Tom, Dick and Harry who is way retired and often dead.
Journalists suck. Liberal journalists really suck. and the Veteran Baseball Committee needs to quit voting in their pals who told them that funny joke on 2nd base in 1962.
The famous, well, infamous if you are not a Patriots fan, snow plow hangs in a place of honor at Schaefer Stadium, err, that's a slip that shows my age.
“24 year old girl friend.” Yes, I bet it’s the young girl friend. Hmm . . . Hall of Fame or young girl friend? He didn’t become such a winning coach by making bad choices.
"If it was up to me, I'd take the vote away from sportswriters, a notoriously mediocre alcoholic bunch."
Baseball's vote is complicated by an explicit character clause in the voting rules, while there's no reason to imagine the sportswriters are competent to judge character. They should either eliminate the clause or have the Hall itself refuse to put unworthies on the ballot (which they'd never do).
Most sportswriters are cretins. Voting for the NFL Hall of Fame should be limited to living members who played or coached in the NFL for at least 5 seasons.
"Who else in in the Injustice Hall of Fame? Well, Tolstoy never won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize. Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick never won a Best Director Oscar. The Monkees are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Ken Doll is not in the National Toy Hall of Fame. And Hillary didn't get to be President."
I like this part of his bio: How did Belichick meet Jordon Hudson? “The two reportedly met on a February 2021 flight when he signed one of her textbooks.”
She didn't get to be Vice-President, either! Who was the guy who discriminated against her?
Obama put Biden on his ticket because he wanted a white man on his ticket. He didn't trust the voters to elect a black man with a white woman as his veep. So he put the incompetent Biden in the #2 spot. And, to save face and public humiliation, he made Hillary his Secretary of State.
Then Obama told Biden not to run, and tried to install Hillary as his successor. Fail! And then Biden, following the Obama formula-for-success, put a black woman in the #2 spot. The one he picked, had almost zero support from Democrat voters, and it was an obvious DEI con job.
I still think the first female president will likely be a Republican, because feminism today is an ugly, divisive, and poisonous ideology, and Democrats can't seem to escape it.
(Meryl Streep once told a reporter that she was a "humanist" and the internet harpies chased her into a river).
The NFL HOF has a long history of punishing off the field behavior, and no one ever accused Bill Belichick of being a person of high moral character. This isn't a case of him not being inducted, but rather the HOF simply saying that the off the field stuff had consequences. Greatest coach ever? Yes. But being a lousy human being and disrespecting the media and the league counts for something as well. Maybe it shouldn't, but if you study the NFL, you'll see it has been a pretty consistent pattern.
A Hall of Injustice should include winners as well as losers. For example, Tolstoy never won the Nobel Prize in Literature, but perhaps the greater injustice is that Bob Dylan did.
Iman- I forgot about "Mike's Murder". Yes...he did film scores as well. Hugely talented. And yes, I think you may be right about his looks. Very tall, gangly, high forehead and a weird shaped head. But if you ever saw him live, he always put on a good show.
I'm seeing him in concert (for about the 6th time over the decades) in a few weeks. I don't typically go see my favorites when they reach an overripe age, but he's an exception for me.
"Obama put Biden on his ticket because he wanted a white man on his ticket."
No, that was the neocons who have always followed Machiavelli's dictum, "Give me the power to nominate, and I will care little for your power to elect."
Bob Dylan has a Nobel Prize, but Mark Twain, who was eligible, does not, but that's because he was so far ahead of his time that you can't really blame the committee.
Biden said as VP that he spent more time talking to Ukraine than he did to his own wife. And son of a bitch, the neocons to the coup that would create the civil war they sought.
Hemingway is the one who brought Twain's greatness to the world's attention. Not that he wasn't popular, he just wasn't thought of as one of the greats.
When Belichick gets in it will be solely because, with the 199th pick on the 2000 NGL draft, someone suggested taking the skinny quarterback from Michigan.
As a Steeler fan, who was directly affected by Spygate, I think it is the minimum punishment for Belicheat to have to wait one more year to get in, and for more people to become aware of his dishonest history!
When people talk about you, you don't want them to say, "How'd he ever get the Nobel (or Pulitzer or Oscar, etc.)?" You want them to say "How come he never got the Nobel (Oscar, Pulitzer, etc.)?"
Kubrick never got an Oscar for direction, but he might have taken home the Oscar 2001 got for Best Visual Effects. Nobelist Desmond Tutu never won the Heisman Trophy, but at least he broke Doug Flutie's in that SNL sketch. Tutu, Flutie, Aw Rooty.
"Belichek did one thing that I have never seen anywhere else: He would cut or trade a player who was near the top of his game on the theory that it was better to move on from a player a year early than a year late."
Branch Rickey was saying that and putting it into practice 90 years ago. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
Despite my intense loathing for what the NFL has become (how is it that a coach dressed in a suit jacket and tie on the sidelines is verboten in favor of the scruffy hoodie?) I’m rooting for the Patriots in the Super Bowl if only for head coach Mike Vrabel. Belichick plucked him out of near obscurity and he became a linchpin player for those early successes. This would be a great win for him.
Belichik with the Browns: 36-44; without Tom Brady: 83-104. This wouldn’t even be a discussion if he hadn’t been paired with Tom Brady. Just like Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers’. McCarthy would be an assistant somewhere in the college levels if he hadn’t had Rodgers’ elite qb play covering his garbage play calling and garbage defenses.
You know who doesn't deserve to be in the HOF? Barry Bonds. Mr. I started to hit more HR's then ever AFTER the age of 35. Mr. I discovered weight lifting after 14 years in MLB. Mr. Steroids/HGH himself.
If you want Injustice Oscar style, I give you: Judy holiday winning an AA over Bette Davis (All about Eve) and Gloria Swanson (Sunset Blvd). Two of the most iconic performances in Hollywood history passed over for a bad comedy act.
Can’t speak to the validity, but husband’s comment was Belichek cheated. My nomination for injustice HoF is Eddie Murphy not even being nominated for an Oscar in Bowfinger.
Belichick was part of a group of 5 which includes 3 players who if they are not voted in will not make it into the HOF because they lose their eligibility. Two of them should have been voted in years ago. It is possible that Kraft doesn’t get in either. At least one sportswriter said that he voted for the 3 players and not Kraft or Belichick for this reason. Then there are people like Polian who can’t remember what he did (it turns out that he did vote for Belichick - that was confirmed this morning by the audit firm that counts the vote). (Interesting that it is not anonymous.). In any event, this is a lot of nonsense. I would have voted for the 3 players and made Bill wait because of the losing eligibility issue. They need to separate the categories but they won’t.
Pffft. Gandhi was only famous because of the humanity of the British people.
There are hundreds of people in China that were braver and more deserving but we will never know their names because they died in a jail cell after having their organs harvested.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame selection process has recently changed, making it more challenging for coaches to be inducted. Coaches now compete directly with players in the seniors category, and the elimination of the five-year waiting period has led to increased scrutiny and fewer overall inductees, as seen with the recent small class sizes.
It is true that Belichick wouldn't be in the running for HOF without Brady. But Brady never would have become Brady if Belichick hadn't made the ballsy decision to keep him as starting QB when Drew Bledsoe, who was at that time the highest paid QB in the league, came back from injury.
Belichick's last three years with the Patriots and last year at UNC were marked by an apparent loss of the ability to engage the attention of and control his players. Lots of mental mistakes, penalties and disciplinary infractions, and lack of attention to details--which was the opposite of the previous two decades. I don't know whether Bill changed or the players changed.
Life isn't fair as we all should know by now and there's lots of other stuff those guys "deserve" too, but that they got away with as well so there's that. It all works out in the end. All glory is fleeting.
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Belicheck the weather outside.... must be coooooolllllld.
This feels like Survivor when the Russel Hantz type player finds out that he didn't win because he never tried to make the jury not hate him.
Hillary not being president is not an injustice, it’s a blessing. And continues to be!
That last sentence is a great line of sarcasm.
Injustice HOF - A Conservative will never be an MSM "Good Guy/Gal".
Bill Belichick and Tom Brady should be inducted into the Hall of Fame at the same time. Brady doesn’t become eligible until 2028, because players have a 5 year wait from retirement while coaches have only a 1 year wait.
I suppose the reason for that difference is that coaches are more likely to die within 5 years of retirement than players. On the other hand, maybe Belichick should not be eligible as he is still actively coaching college football.
It will be a cloud on this year’s inductees, who each will be compared to Bill Belichick.
We dodged a nuke weapon with Hillary losing.
"The Ken Doll is not in the National Toy Hall of Fame."
Some deluded woke voters ("woters") are eyeing Sparkle Beach Ken for the white house as a consolation prize.
The pettiness ingrained in our award systems knows no bounds.
Isn't it obvious the coaches believe spygate and deflategate and are proving a point?
I read some things yesterday speculating why this obviously qualified coaching candidate was not selected.
What was not mentioned - maybe it was elsewhere - is that Bill was often a prick to the media, known for giving one word or short mumbled answers during press Q/As.
I'm not a fan of him or the Patriots (nor of the media) but the snub seems pretty ridiculous.
And Hillary didn't get to be President.
If it were a position that was awarded instead of elected, she probably would have been.
THANK GOD!!!!
Her mistake was not running in 2020 when the presidency was being awarded.
If Hillary had been just like Hillary, except without the habitual lying, habitual corruption and was a likeable natural leader, she would have been president.
It’s quite possible that one of the inductees that was elected over Bill Belichick is Patriots owner Robert Kraft. If so, that sets up the possibility of Kraft in 2026, Belichick in 2027, and Brady in 2028. That would be a fitting way to honor the dynasty.
How about Red Buttons, who “never got a dinner.”
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ljOcOCAywOk
Althouse managed to snub Belichick again by making the comments to this post about Hillary Clinton with her addendum.
Don't forget Pete Rose, Roger Clemens, Curt Shilling and Mark McGwire are not in the Baseball HOF.
If it was up to me, I'd take the vote away from sportswriters, a notoriously mediocre alcoholic bunch.
Belichick is making $10 million per year at UNC. How many of the Hall of Fame voters make that much?
DJT's greatest triumph: Beating Hillary.
Pete Rose,
At 02:23,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtvhQ26DNd4\
One name is not at all like the others in that Althouse list.
Gandhi did win an Oscar, when Oscars used to be a big deal.
If the toy companies would put out a Hilary doll, she might at least make the Toy Hall of Fame, complete with pantsuit, accessories, and a tiny little basket.
I, for one, am willing to forgive all of those grave injustices, just so long as Hillary is never President.
Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, and Stan Musial were not unanimous selections to the Hall of Fame.
Shouldn’t the Spygate guy have seen this coming?
The greatest oversight,
"There was this kid I grew up with; he was younger than me. Sorta looked up to me, you know. We did our first work together, worked our way out of the street. Things were good, we made the most of it. During Prohibition, we ran molasses into Canada... made a fortune, your father, too. As much as anyone, I loved him and trusted him. Later on he had an idea to build a city out of a desert stop-over for GI's on the way to the West Coast. That kid's name was Moe Greene, and the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a great man, a man of vision and guts. And there isn't even a plaque, or a signpost or a statue of him in that town! "
“Cincinnati”
If Kraft, Belichick, and Brady were inducted together in 2028, that would truly be a great moment.
Who was siegel, as fontaine was sinatra
To be hated only makes Belichick that much more awesome, considering he’s the GOAT and nobody else comes even close. Belichick is the Brigitte Bardot of sports.
Who's got the worst record: The Academy Awards or the Nobel Committee? Well, anyway they're still in business. Not much prestige is attached to the Lenin Peace Prize......I suppose there's a useful lessons here somewhere. Human beings just aren't very good at looking beyond their moment and their moods to what constitutes enduring merit.
Per Gemini the primary voting on HOF membership is done by the media.
"The committee consists of 50 people, primarily media, but also includes some Hall of Fame coaches, players, and front-office members."
It takes a supermajority (80% approval) to be inducted. Are there enough coaches on the committee to spike his induction? Possible but I think unlikely.
Comparing Hillary Clinton to Ghandi takes the cake. It really does.
You're such a coward. Stealth deleting comments. I guess your regular readers won't notice that you're doing it because they aren't intelligent enough to figure out how you're manipulating them.
G.N. Lewis never won the Nobel in Chemistry despite being nominated 35 times. Freshman chemistry students all learn Lewis structures. I wrote some praise back here
He had a mysterious death.
Even all those other examples are less unjust than Belichick's treatment. He deserves to have a statue on top of the Injustice Hall of Fame, which by tradition, would have his name spelled wrong. Maybe they could get that guy who did the Lucille Ball statue to make it.
If it was up to me, I'd take the vote away from sportswriters, a notoriously mediocre alcoholic bunch.
This is what Matt Taibbi says about journalists generally. I only know one (former) journalist, and while she covered some good stories and some interesting people, she was strictly small-time. But she can hold her liquor, as they used to say!
"Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize." At least there's some justice in the world, or was.
Isn't it obvious the coaches believe spygate and deflategate and are proving a point?
The Deflategate "scandal" was total BS. The balls were reinflated at halftime and the Patriots took over the game in the second half.
Belichick must be a Republican or something.
Or perhaps it's a pack of a-hole leftists who are jealous of his wins and his hot young GF.
Nobel "Peace" Prize:
Obama 1
Trump 0
It went without saying.
And Hillary only amazi didn't get to be President.
Only amazingly stupid, gullible people think she was ever a competent politician, or would have made a competent President. Joe Biden showed us what happens when a personally corrupt and incompetent individual is elected President of the United States.
“And Hillary didn't get to be President.”
I thank a merciful God for this, and I’m an agnostic.
The US population is around 330 million. Women who are natural US citizens aged 35 or greater probably total for 80-100 million of the population. Given that, I have to believe there are better women than Hillary and Harris to run for the presidency. Hillary is a truly awful human being and Harris is hopelessly incompetent. Are the best women the country has to offer? If so, that’s a truly depressing thought.
If Belichick can’t have it, burn it down.
Bill Polian "can't remember" if he voted for Belichick.
Right.
My unfounded take as a 60-year Patriots fan is that Polian engineered this as a "favor" to his buddy Kraft so that Kraft and Belichick don't go in together, and Kraft gets there first. (Don't believe Kraft's public statements--if you watched the Kraft-funded Netflix series on the Pats, you will get some small sense of how much they despise each other, and how much Kraft wants public acclaim).
Belichick is truly an asshole to reporters, so it doesn't seem to be too big a stretch to think that a bunch of them would be receptive to making Belichick "wait a year."
High school never really ends, apparently.
Belichick may have the second most NFL wins of all time but karma remains undefeated.
Don't worry, he'll eventually be invited to the prom.
All HOFs are popularity contests. One's failure to be elected in, to not be elected in, or to not be elected in one's first year of eligibility but then be elected later, does not in any way, shape, or form elevate or diminish what one did. HOF status only really matters to the uninformed or obsessed.
All that said, if Pujols isn't unanimously elected to the baseball HOF in his first year of eligibility, I'll be outraged and you'll never be able to convince me that the voter(s) who didn't vote for Pujols was just some NY sportswriter(s) wanting to protect Rivera's status as the only unanimous selection.
One that I've thought about recently. A kind of obscure thought. The British singer/songwriter, Joe Jackson. How the hell is Joe Jackson NOT in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame??
He was an early on star of punk rock. Later had more mainstream hits. Has written and recorded virtually all styles of music. Had a great album of old swing tunes (Jumpin' Jive). Wrote a symphony. And has been producing great music, and touring, for decades. He's been an amazing songwriter/singer for decades.
I mean...they've put the Eurythmics and Steve Miller in the Hall of Fame for crying out loud.
Different for Girls.
"Because said so!"
is why.
No Super Bowl title(s) for Dan Marino
I stand with Pauline Kael: Oscars are meaningless. Overall, Kael regarded the Oscars with a mix of cynicism and resignation: entertaining in their absurdity at times, but rarely aligned with genuine quality or the films she valued most. She treated them as a cultural symptom rather than a serious arbiter of excellence.
Everything above after "meaningless" provided by Grok.
Perfection is correct and you nailed it! Tolstoy! Ghandi! Hitchcock & Kubrick! The, um, Monkees… er, Ken the Doll? Hill… wait, what???
We can all stipulate that he will never win Miss Congeniality. But that was not a criterion.
He will be inducted next year.
Belichek has never established coaching chops without Tom Brady, the GOAT. But with Brady, he was among the best with a supporting cast that turned over about three times over 20 years.
Belichek did one thing that I have never seen anywhere else: He would cut or trade a player who was near the top of his game on the theory that it was better to move on from a player a year early than a year late.
Joy Division, New Order, Mark Twain, Jorge Louis Borges, James Joyce, Virginia Woolf, the list goes on and on.
I have a dream that the first woman president will be someone who did not launch her career by having a personal relationship with a male politician.
Sports writers are the woke worst. Curt Schilling to the HOF!
Andy Reid should have considered this a year or two ago: "better to move on from a player a year early than a year late."
Josephbleau said, "If Belichick can’t have it, burn it down."
Under this stone lies things enjoyed
Less and less can fill the void
They died in battle and stagnation
Murdered by "enshittification"
We could house the Injustice hall of fame next to the academy of the overrated. The case of Tolstoy is very strange, especially when you look at the writers who got the prize prior to 1910.
I think the real reason is everyone is jealous of him having a 24-year-old girlfriend.
The football HOF has never had the impact that the BB HOF has. Probably because no one cares much about anything other then stars. Which means the QB-RB-WR and the head coach. The funniest thing about old timey football is how LBs and Defensive lineman used to be so famous. Now, they're not - but they make x10 the money.
@Howard, the twinkmedia "is jealous of him having a 24-year-old girlfriend."
"I think the real reason is everyone is jealous of him having a 24-year-old girlfriend."
He has to listen to her. No one's jealous of that.
I had to look up the definition of twink. It included pictures of Jared Kushner and Stephen Miller.
...Or you could just go the White House Correspondents Dinner (aka "nerd prom"). Tons of em.
... I'll defer to your detailed and intimate expertise. NTTAWWT
Heh, Temujin… I watched a mid-1980s movie last night… “Mike’s Murder”… that had a soundtrack that was exclusively Joe Jackson.
I think he was hampered a bit by his looks.
Btw, that guy in the video did a great job putting the HOF voters to shame.
And Hillary didn't get to be President.
Trolling Hall of Fame!
said...
"Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize."
And Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole…
I read somewhere that he was denied because he was a cradle robber. That's kind of like denying Morgan Freeman an Oscar because you don't like his girlfriend.
Interesting that social media is going after his girlfriend, and not him. Probably because he's not on social media and doesn't give a damn.
It's funny to me that the same liberals who normalize homosexuality and bisexuality and transsexuality, flip the fuck out when straight people date outside their age bracket.
I always loved the videos where someone would go out and ask people on the street what Hillary has ever accomplished, then the same thing with Harris. Crickets. How hard would it be to find a woman with plenty of impressive accomplishments. If I was a woman I'd be insulted by those choices. Same with Obama, nothing before running for President. They also belong in The Hall of Injustice, but in a special section for those who never deserved the fame they got. Why do Democrats end up with such unqualified people so often. More infuriating is that they vote for them in large numbers. It's some kind of mental quirk.
The other possibility is that he's not a really good coach. UNC is ransoming undergrads and the faculty lounge to pay his salary, and UNC football is worse than ever.
It makes people suspect that he was riding on the Tom Brady express. Cynical people might suggest that any twit could win a lot of games, if Tom Brady was your quarterback. I would be a genius, for instance.
Finally, what's really funny about the Hall of Fame (at least in baseball, this is true) is that the journalists who vote are mean as shit, and are often keeping out very talented people who deserve to be in. Meanwhile the "veterans committee," made up of old, boozy ballplayers, is constantly letting in every Tom, Dick and Harry who is way retired and often dead.
Journalists suck.
Liberal journalists really suck.
and the Veteran Baseball Committee needs to quit voting in their pals who told them that funny joke on 2nd base in 1962.
"Journalists suck.
Liberal journalists really suck."
So we were just having this conversation...
If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'
The famous, well, infamous if you are not a Patriots fan, snow plow hangs in a place of honor at Schaefer Stadium, err, that's a slip that shows my age.
“24 year old girl friend.” Yes, I bet it’s the young girl friend. Hmm . . . Hall of Fame or young girl friend? He didn’t become such a winning coach by making bad choices.
"If it was up to me, I'd take the vote away from sportswriters, a notoriously mediocre alcoholic bunch."
Baseball's vote is complicated by an explicit character clause in the voting rules, while there's no reason to imagine the sportswriters are competent to judge character. They should either eliminate the clause or have the Hall itself refuse to put unworthies on the ballot (which they'd never do).
Most sportswriters are cretins. Voting for the NFL Hall of Fame should be limited to living members who played or coached in the NFL for at least 5 seasons.
"Who else in in the Injustice Hall of Fame? Well, Tolstoy never won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize. Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick never won a Best Director Oscar. The Monkees are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Ken Doll is not in the National Toy Hall of Fame. And Hillary didn't get to be President."
One of these things is not like the others
And Hillary didn't get to be President.
Which we all know is a great justice for Americans
Reality check: any award given out by journalists is meaningless trash, because the vast majority of modern journalists are worthless trash
The elephant in the room is his girlfriend in Canton. They can't allow her to skank up the hallowed Hall of Fame.
I like this part of his bio:
How did Belichick meet Jordon Hudson?
“The two reportedly met on a February 2021 flight when he signed one of her textbooks.”
And Hillary didn't get to be President.
She didn't get to be Vice-President, either! Who was the guy who discriminated against her?
Obama put Biden on his ticket because he wanted a white man on his ticket. He didn't trust the voters to elect a black man with a white woman as his veep. So he put the incompetent Biden in the #2 spot. And, to save face and public humiliation, he made Hillary his Secretary of State.
Then Obama told Biden not to run, and tried to install Hillary as his successor. Fail! And then Biden, following the Obama formula-for-success, put a black woman in the #2 spot. The one he picked, had almost zero support from Democrat voters, and it was an obvious DEI con job.
I still think the first female president will likely be a Republican, because feminism today is an ugly, divisive, and poisonous ideology, and Democrats can't seem to escape it.
(Meryl Streep once told a reporter that she was a "humanist" and the internet harpies chased her into a river).
The NFL HOF has a long history of punishing off the field behavior, and no one ever accused Bill Belichick of being a person of high moral character. This isn't a case of him not being inducted, but rather the HOF simply saying that the off the field stuff had consequences. Greatest coach ever? Yes. But being a lousy human being and disrespecting the media and the league counts for something as well. Maybe it shouldn't, but if you study the NFL, you'll see it has been a pretty consistent pattern.
Bill Belichick is a huge A-hole who I've rooted against for decades. He should 100% be in the HOF.
If I was a Democrat who lived in the Northeast, I probably would hate Belichick because lefties always hate competent winners.
The Ken Doll is not in the National Toy Hall of Fame.
That made me laugh.
The toy wars are brutal.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Out!
Batman? Out!
Clue? Out!
They tried to keep G.I. Joe out but he stormed the walls.
Class of 2005: "Cardboard box." What the fuck?
Pillow Fort is way more fun than Cardboard box.
These damn toy voters are way outside the box with "cardboard box." I wonder who paid them off? (Joke).
Hasbro introduces Cardboard Box
Retailing for $19.99. Buy now and we'll ship it in an additional cardboard box.
That's right, Ken, you lost to your fucking box.
Also, you have no balls!
or so I've been told
Neither Little Feat nor Lowell George is in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Now that's a travesty!
A Hall of Injustice should include winners as well as losers. For example, Tolstoy never won the Nobel Prize in Literature, but perhaps the greater injustice is that Bob Dylan did.
"Yes. But being a lousy human being and disrespecting the media and the league counts for something as well."
LOL. So, overstating his faux-pas' in vague language makes Belechik's record go away. I dont think so. Weak Sauce.
And disrepecting the media. OMG. Get the smelling salts, Gertrude, while I clutch my pearls.
Pete Rose was busted for gambling and lying about it. Can we quit pretending he was a saint denied entrance into the HOF.
If Sportwriters were drunks I'd respect them more. Actually they're just 2nd raters, angry that they got stuck in the "Toy Department" of Journalism.
“Neither Little Feat nor Lowell George is in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Now that's a travesty!”
Those were my thoughts, exactly, boatbuilder. Thanks for expressing it!
Iman- I forgot about "Mike's Murder". Yes...he did film scores as well. Hugely talented. And yes, I think you may be right about his looks. Very tall, gangly, high forehead and a weird shaped head. But if you ever saw him live, he always put on a good show.
I'm seeing him in concert (for about the 6th time over the decades) in a few weeks. I don't typically go see my favorites when they reach an overripe age, but he's an exception for me.
Posterity has also shafted The Archies.
Iman- just read your comment about Lowell George and/or Little Feat. Completely agree. How could they NOT be in there?
"Obama put Biden on his ticket because he wanted a white man on his ticket."
No, that was the neocons who have always followed Machiavelli's dictum, "Give me the power to nominate, and I will care little for your power to elect."
Bob Dylan has a Nobel Prize, but Mark Twain, who was eligible, does not, but that's because he was so far ahead of his time that you can't really blame the committee.
Biden said as VP that he spent more time talking to Ukraine than he did to his own wife. And son of a bitch, the neocons to the coup that would create the civil war they sought.
Hemingway is the one who brought Twain's greatness to the world's attention. Not that he wasn't popular, he just wasn't thought of as one of the greats.
When Belichick gets in it will be solely because, with the 199th pick on the 2000 NGL draft, someone suggested taking the skinny quarterback from Michigan.
You were doing really well until that last one. Hilary NEVER deserved to be president!
"Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize". Well he was a racist dog when he practice law in South Africa.
If you said Jeb Bush didn't get to be President you might have gotten more laughs.
As a Steeler fan, who was directly affected by Spygate, I think it is the minimum punishment for Belicheat to have to wait one more year to get in, and for more people to become aware of his dishonest history!
When people talk about you, you don't want them to say, "How'd he ever get the Nobel (or Pulitzer or Oscar, etc.)?" You want them to say "How come he never got the Nobel (Oscar, Pulitzer, etc.)?"
Kubrick never got an Oscar for direction, but he might have taken home the Oscar 2001 got for Best Visual Effects. Nobelist Desmond Tutu never won the Heisman Trophy, but at least he broke Doug Flutie's in that SNL sketch. Tutu, Flutie, Aw Rooty.
(singing)
One of those things is *not* like the others . . .
"Belichek did one thing that I have never seen anywhere else: He would cut or trade a player who was near the top of his game on the theory that it was better to move on from a player a year early than a year late."
Branch Rickey was saying that and putting it into practice 90 years ago. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
I feel kinda bad for Ken. I mean, Barbie got everything in the divorce - the Corvette, the Beach House, the Bubbling Spa.
But that's what he gets for hanging out with Skipper, her cool teen sister.
Much Like Belichick, now that I think of it.
Despite my intense loathing for what the NFL has become (how is it that a coach dressed in a suit jacket and tie on the sidelines is verboten in favor of the scruffy hoodie?) I’m rooting for the Patriots in the Super Bowl if only for head coach Mike Vrabel. Belichick plucked him out of near obscurity and he became a linchpin player for those early successes. This would be a great win for him.
Belichik with the Browns: 36-44; without Tom Brady: 83-104. This wouldn’t even be a discussion if he hadn’t been paired with Tom Brady. Just like Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers’. McCarthy would be an assistant somewhere in the college levels if he hadn’t had Rodgers’ elite qb play covering his garbage play calling and garbage defenses.
"Don't forget Pete Rose, Roger Clemens, Curt Shilling and Mark McGwire are not in the Baseball HOF."
They all made themselves unworthy: Rose by gambling, Clemens and McGwire by using PEDs, and Shilling by publicly supporting Trump.
Poor hillary. she must have looked at the disaster of the biden presidency and said "I could've done that".
You know who doesn't deserve to be in the HOF? Barry Bonds. Mr. I started to hit more HR's then ever AFTER the age of 35. Mr. I discovered weight lifting after 14 years in MLB. Mr. Steroids/HGH himself.
I'll bet the evil hag is still hoping. Lock her up!
Of course, all the sportswriters tip-toed around the steroid issue and Bonds - because he's black. And a Democrat.
If you want Injustice Oscar style, I give you: Judy holiday winning an AA over Bette Davis (All about Eve) and Gloria Swanson (Sunset Blvd). Two of the most iconic performances in Hollywood history passed over for a bad comedy act.
we might have this all wrong.
Bill B will get in. There is a line of people and voting and only so many years of eligibility. q the line.
Can’t speak to the validity, but husband’s comment was Belichek cheated. My nomination for injustice HoF is Eddie Murphy not even being nominated for an Oscar in Bowfinger.
Belichick was part of a group of 5 which includes 3 players who if they are not voted in will not make it into the HOF because they lose their eligibility. Two of them should have been voted in years ago. It is possible that Kraft doesn’t get in either. At least one sportswriter said that he voted for the 3 players and not Kraft or Belichick for this reason.
Then there are people like Polian who can’t remember what he did (it turns out that he did vote for Belichick - that was confirmed this morning by the audit firm that counts the vote). (Interesting that it is not anonymous.). In any event, this is a lot of nonsense. I would have voted for the 3 players and made Bill wait because of the losing eligibility issue. They need to separate the categories but they won’t.
Gandhi never won the Nobel Peace Prize.
Pffft. Gandhi was only famous because of the humanity of the British people.
There are hundreds of people in China that were braver and more deserving but we will never know their names because they died in a jail cell after having their organs harvested.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame selection process has recently changed, making it more challenging for coaches to be inducted. Coaches now compete directly with players in the seniors category, and the elimination of the five-year waiting period has led to increased scrutiny and fewer overall inductees, as seen with the recent small class sizes.
Hillary Clinton not becoming President was justice, not injustice. Sheesh.
It is true that Belichick wouldn't be in the running for HOF without Brady. But Brady never would have become Brady if Belichick hadn't made the ballsy decision to keep him as starting QB when Drew Bledsoe, who was at that time the highest paid QB in the league, came back from injury.
Belichick's last three years with the Patriots and last year at UNC were marked by an apparent loss of the ability to engage the attention of and control his players. Lots of mental mistakes, penalties and disciplinary infractions, and lack of attention to details--which was the opposite of the previous two decades. I don't know whether Bill changed or the players changed.
Life isn't fair as we all should know by now and there's lots of other stuff those guys "deserve" too, but that they got away with as well so there's that. It all works out in the end. All glory is fleeting.
The old fart alky writers denied Bill his place due to 1. Envy of his 24 yo hot GF and 2. he treated them like the human shitpile they were.
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