A manager sent Trump a fax relaying the employee's allegations and urged him to ban Epstein, some of the former employees said. Trump said it was a good letter and said to kick him out. The beautician disclosed the house call to the club's human resources team, one of the former employees said. The incident wasn't reported to Palm Beach police, according to the former employees and police. The department didn't begin investigating Epstein until two years later, when a parent told them Epstein molested a 14-year-old girl from a local high school. Epstein was arrested in 2006 after several underage teens told police he paid them for sex....
December 31, 2025
What was that "Incident That Prompted Trump to Ban EpsteinFrom Mar-a-Lago's Spa"?
"Mar-a-Lago sent an 18-year-old spa worker on a house call to Jeffrey Epstein in 2003. She complained to her bosses that Epstein pressured her for sex," The Wall Street Journal reports.
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Every women and under-aged girl needed to go to the police and report the crime.
Anyone who doesn’t think Trump at the time knew or strongly suspected that Epstein was involved with underage girls- and yet failed to report him - has an incurable case of TDS.
Trying to seduce an 18 year old spa worker isn't a crime anywhere in the country.
He kicked him out, they associated with him for the next 16 years journalists financiers university presidents
They didnt care about 'reputational risk'
Thanks WSJ! Now do a piece on why Epstein visited the Clinton White House more than a dpzen times, why Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express more than a dozen times, and why Ghislaine was invited to Chelsea's wedding.
Epstein was yukky…
Bag - you’re right. Clinton was probably involved. So I guess that means Trump gets a pass.
"Trying to seduce an 18 year old spa worker isn't a crime anywhere in the country."
I once saw a total stranger ask my wife to a party that night while she was pumping gas. (I was returning from the restroom.) Not to excuse Epstein, but women get hit on all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSeOj5UKXE
Still digging through that pile of manure trying to locate the pony?
Well Trump cut him off--but some would say he had a duty to report the incident to the police. Maybe the 18 year old girl was incapable of doing that herself? Did she have no agency?
Funny how all the private personal remembrances of Trump interactions point toward a sense of decency, while the public actions of Democrat hero figures stink to high heaven.
Pretty funny, pointing to a case involving Epstein hitting on an 18 year old that was acted on decisively by management as being an indication of TDS. Great hard-hitting call, there, impressive.
Thats not a pony
Was this after he rode on the Lolita express 8
Multiple times to go on child rape holidays?
Makes sense that Pedo Mussolini would have to distance himself from his close personal friend Jefferey Epstein and ban him, after other people found out their secret pastime that they enjoyed together for years.
Aggie. Maybe you should reread my comment. I said underage girls.
18 year old ADULTS get hit on millions of times a day. She chose to report it to her boss as yucky. Trump and his team did EXACTLY the right thing. It wasn't a police matter.
What was everyone elses excuse
sent an 18-year-old spa worker on a house call
Malicious Observance
And why is this news and not Clinton? Don’t say, well because Trump is President. The story here is 2 decades old, which is to say not news. Years later, Hillary would be SecState and her husband was hanging with Epstein, who then was known to federal authorities for having sexual relations with underage women. Still not “new”, but at least a decade newer for news coverage.
I literally just said to my wife yesterday that the media embarrassed by not covering the Minnesota fraud will resort to stories about — Epstein.
Well its very near beer
when did Clinton visit Sex island and sit in those hot tubs? what year?
FYI, that story was the top story in the digital edition this morning. Minnesota story is about Trump reacting to "alleged" fraud, buried in the middle of the paper.
Yes, horrible things happened. Those responsible should be punished and the victims compensated (to the extent that this is possible), but people are getting tired of the reportage. It has a "The walls are closing in on Trump now" quality. The walls never did close in on Trump.
What the media isn't looking at are Epstein's connections to intelligence agencies. We aren't going to find out about what he was doing for the spy agencies from either the government or the mainstream media, so every story brings to mind the things they don't tell us rather than what they want us to believe.
I’m still not seeing any evidence that Epstein provided underage women to anyone else.
The WSJ is smart for attempting to appear to be fair. The rest of the corporate media still thinks they have the power to cover this and Minnesota fraud with a pillow until it stops breathing. They don’t understand that being the last one to acknowledge reality repetitively is a sign of complicity or stupidity.
meanwhile - while the left hive-cult obsess over their fever dreams - THIS
Good God, the Establishment has done everything possible in the last 10 years to dig up dirt and destroy Trump.
Illegal Wiretaps, FBI investigations, Rumaging through the First Ladies underwear drawer, bank audits, releasing his tax returns, pressuring his associates to "fink on him" with threats of jail time. Not to mention releasing "The pussy tapes", indictments for "Mortgage Fraud".
You can be Goddamn sure everything related to Epstein-Trump has been gone over with a finetooth comb. And this is all they have.
It's pretty clear the Deep State was trying to entrap Trump.
They failed, so they just decided to murder him instead; the result being their usual level of competence.
Yep, there's nothing illegal - as opposed to sleazy and immoral - for a rich man to pressure an 18 y/o employee to have sex with him.
I would bet that in addition to the report of sexual harrassment, Trump "heard things" - not just that Epstein "Liked 'em young" but that he was a pedophile.
"Every women and under-aged girl needed to go to the police and report the crime.
These whores were making big, big money bro. Why suck dick for free when a billionaire will pay you to do it?
They used the metoo movement to extract $$$ by always having some evidence on them (that photo of the Prince, for example).
They don't care if the rapists are getting off Scot free. Whores just care about the cash.
the Fake news about Trump being a pedophile rapist Russian Agent will ramp up as the walls close in around the corrupt democratic party's tax payer fraud /funnel for fraud/ to the tune of billions - schemes.
"I would bet that in addition to the report of sexual harrassment, Trump "heard things" - not just that Epstein "Liked 'em young" but that he was a pedophile."
Epstein was an ephebophile, but yeah.
Trump had previously told Epstein not to ply his trade at Mar-A-Lago. Trump knew very well what Epstein's trade was. The operate phrase being "Don't shit where you eat."
Mar-A-Lago is where Trump eats. Probably only safe place he can eat besides McDonalds, which is notoriously hard to poison people with.
Former Law Clerk.
"whores" - you really are a troll.
Many of them had agency and didn't do the right thing - but many of them are still victims.
TeaBagHag: Trump traveled on Epstein's plane years prior to Epstein's purchase of the island. It wasn't the "Lolita Express" then. But don't let facts get in the way of your beliefs.
The AG of MN - Fraud Keith Ellison (D) - his son gets over a hundred thousand a year while he lives far away. for what?
Oh right - he's the privileged democrat party son of a democrat.
Keith Ellison(D) is the f-head of promoted Antifa Nazis thuggery - and then denied it.
"I’m still not seeing any evidence that Epstein provided underage women to anyone else."
That evidence is, of course, still being used by the US government to blackmail the individuals who are in the videos.
Mike benz has decoded some of this stuff ties to khashoggi bcci and othet parties
many of them are still victims.
They were only too happy to come over to jack off Epstein for $200.
A 17-year-old girl doing that isn't a victim. She's a whore.
LEGALLY she might be a "victim," but not in real life. (Life outside a courtroom.)
In real life, she's a garden-variety whore.
Skeptical Voter said...
Well Trump cut him off--but some would say he had a duty to report the incident to the police. Maybe the 18 year old girl was incapable of doing that herself? Did she have no agency?
Trump is aware of the use of NDA's.
All of Epstein's victims got paid. That is why they never went to the police themselves.
To clarify: "Victims" - true victimes - would be telling police who raped them and demanding justice.
These are whores. They took money for sex and payoffs to keep that secret. They could come out today and name their rapists - to keep other girls safe.
Not a single one of these whores has done that. They're worthless women who deserve exactly ZERO of our pity.
"All of Epstein's victims got paid. That is why they never went to the police themselves."
And those contracts shouldn't be legal in the first fucking place.
The palm beach da krischer pull my other finger
for Douche-Bag(D)
"These whores were making big, big money bro. Why suck dick for free when a billionaire will pay you to do it?"
Speaking from experience? But enough about you.
Like a lot of Leftists, many Democrat women will "take one for the team". There was the leftist MSM reporterette who publically dreamed of giving Billy Bob Clinton a BJ. In France, some socialist leader named Kahn raped the leftist women, and they all kept silent. No doubt they were secretly thrilled.
The accusations of inappropriate conduct keep being aimed at Trump, and spraying all over Democrats.
If your identity, and the identity of the group to which you believe you belong, and you have a need to belong to some group deeply embedded in your DNA from the thousands and thousands of centuries when the human species lived in small bands in an uncaring wilderness, well in that case you can suppress your intellect and just reject any information that might lead you to a conclusion that could get you ostracized.
Epstien for President!
Why do people care about Epstein so much? He was a sleaze, but the world is full of sleazes. He wasn't nearly as bad as the rape gangs that have terrorized English neighborhoods and gotten away with it.
They wanted to know why he was protected for so long , there are certainly clues
With respect to all of the sensitivities concerned here, I'd prefer that my local police department not deploy the resources of a detective unit every time an attractive 18 year-old girl gets hit upon by a man that is older.
Sean Davis on X: "What an oddly specific place for a “robber” to put a hole in the wall. It definitely wasn’t an inside job, and it double definitely wasn’t someone grabbing wads of cash he stuffed in the walls." / X https://share.google/LEs7jFvo4x991XwVE
What Money Manger said at 1146.
Dogma and Pony Show said...
Why do people care about Epstein so much? He was a sleaze, but the world is full of sleazes. He wasn't nearly as bad as the rape gangs that have terrorized English neighborhoods and gotten away with it.
People are tired of the corrupt and sleazy people getting away with it.
We are constantly assaulted with the "Nothing is going to happen" and "what are you going to do about it" garbage.
It is a historical pattern. Sodom and Gamorrah will play out again.
Money Manger said...
With respect to all of the sensitivities concerned here, I'd prefer that my local police department not deploy the resources of a detective unit every time an attractive 18 year-old girl gets hit upon by a man that is older.
I agree.
This is the father's job.
Ron Winkleheimer said...
I once saw a total stranger ask my wife to a party that night while she was pumping gas. (I was returning from the restroom.)
Saw a similar thing play out just last year at McDonalds. I was waiting at the counter for the food to come out, she was getting the napkins and ketchup and stuff. Of course she was younger then- 67. She could pass for 50.
But yes, women get hit on ALL the time. Not just young women.
end italics- I hope. Maybe...
silly these people are too rich, nothing will ever happen ,just more North against the south banter ,both these guys are S bags and will go nowhere, just media fodder,, move along please.
Hey! Remember when Trump paid Russian prostitutes to piss on Obama's bed? Tom Arnold still has the tapes.
"silly these people are too rich, nothing will ever happen"
Epstein was rich, and you killed him.
Thanks WSJ! Now do a piece on why Epstein visited the Clinton White House more than a dpzen times, why Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express more than a dozen times, and why Ghislaine was invited to Chelsea's wedding.
YES! And also, why was Donald J. Trump flying to DC with Epstein and Mark Middleton (check out page 27!), a Clinton aide who Vince Fostered himself? And, why was Trump invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding? What a swamp drainer!
"People are tired of the corrupt and sleazy people getting away with it."
I get that, but Epstein didn't get away with being corrupt and sleazy. He died in prison.
Of all the injustices that have ever occurred and that still occur, I just don't see why Epstein, in particular, is the case that people seem most obsessed with. There's so much resentment toward Epstein that it's not enough for people that he died in prison, they want to investigate anyone who was ever associated with him based on the possibility those people were guilty of similar crimes.
As for who "protected" him, I'm open to the possibility that he avoided harsher treatment than he at first received through the strategic utilization of money, blackmail, and/or and connections to intelligence agencies. OK, so what? Is that worse than someone who commits a series of violent crimes and gets lenient treatment because he's black? I would say the latter phenomenon is far more common and far more offensive to our societal values.
The beautician disclosed the house call to the club's human resources team, one of the former employees said. The incident wasn't reported to Palm Beach police, according to the former employees and police.
So, looks to me like it was correctly handled. "Pressured", unless it involved force or threats, would at MOST be "solicitation for prostitution." The beautician got what she wanted:
1; Her bosses backed her up, told her she did theirhgt thing by refusing
2: Her bosses booted Epstein, showing that they really DID back her up
3: She'd never have to go to his place again
I doubt she wanted to be filing a complaint with the police, I doubt the police wanted that kind of complaint filed.
Good for Trump
Once again.
Shipwreckedcrew answers questions on Epstein NPA with the Feds
Shipwreckedcrew deep dive into the Epstein's Florida plea deal and Federal NPA.
Skeptical Voter said...
Well Trump cut him off--but some would say he had a duty to report the incident to the police.
Only if they're complete ignoramuses and morons.
1: Was she under age? No
2: What was the crime? "He asked her for sex"? News flash: that's not a crime
"He offered her money for sex"?: Well, if you have it on video you might get a "solicitation for prostitution" charge. Maybe.
"I invited her to go to Maui with me for a week, all expenses paid." All of a sudden, that's not prostitution.
But please, tell us exactly what law, or even sane moral code, would require Trump to "report him to the police" for this behavior.
Trump booting him from Mar-a Lago. That's a bigger "gfine" than anything Epstein would have faced for a "solicitation of prostitution" charge, even if he was convicted.
Sorry, children, Trump did the right thing there
Was this just another effort to put "Trump" and "Epstein" in the same headline? There's nothing new here.
DD--are you really going to try that one again?
How lame.
Trump could rape a 14 year old on 5th avenue and his followers would still support him.
I’ll give MAGAts credit, they are loyal.
“It’s the best Kool-aid. A lot of people
say that it’s the strongest kool-aid that’s ever been made.”
Trump‘s business ran a spa service that made house calls. It was extremely important for him to maintain the line between legitimate professional massages, and prostitution. Professional masseuses must maintain that line. It doesn’t matter what the criminal law is with respect to propositioning an 18 year-old masseuse. As a professional matter, as a business interest, he had to enforce that line. But the
Wall Street Journal seems to be faulting Trump for not reporting the incident to the police.
Epstein was screwing up Trump’s business and I think Trump was outraged by that kind of betrayal by a friend. Epstein had to know that Trump’s masseuses were professional masseuses and not prostitutes. It was an affront to Trump to treat them as if they were
Trump could rape a 14 year old on 5th avenue and his followers would still support him.
The problem with folks like Teabag is that, having heard the above statement, they believe that means that Trump did rape a 14 year old.
No more italics!
So Epstein figured Trump was seigneur with droit?!
Employers do have a legal duty to police third-party sexual harassment of the employees by customers.
If the problem is not calling the police, what about all the universities that deal with sexual assault through campus processes and don't report it to the police? What about all the doctors who provide services to teenagers under 18 who are pregnant and don't systematically call in the police?
@Althouse, from where did you get the information that the young woman was a masseuse? Is she not described as a beautician? Would not her job be more focused on hair styling, manicures and pedicures, and/or skincare?
YES! And also, why was Donald J. Trump flying to DC with Epstein and Mark Middleton …
@Dense snd Duplicitous Driver, my assumption is that Trump mentioned he was going up to DC and Epstein said he was going up too in his own private jet, and did Trump want a lift This being cheaper than flying up in his own Boeing 757, and that Epstein’s indictment for pedophilia was in the future, Trump would have readily accepted. It’s pretty obvious, but then I don’t have a virulent case of TDS.
Ann Althouse said...
As a professional matter, as a business interest, he had to enforce that line.
Correct. And he did so.
But the Wall Street Journal seems to be faulting Trump for not reporting the incident to the police.
As I note above, anyone claiming that is, at best, a moron or an ignoramus.
2: There's lots of ways to push the line that aren't illegal
2: The ability to prove that he (Epstein) went to illegality, without a video recording, is pretty much 0
"@Althouse, from where did you get the information that the young woman was a masseuse? Is she not described as a beautician?"
That was the impression — maybe wrong — that I got from this text:
"Jeffrey Epstein wasn't just a frequent visitor to Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The club was also sending spa employees -- usually young women -- to Epstein's nearby mansion for massages, manicures and other spa services, according to former Mar-a-Lago and Epstein employees. The house calls went on for years, even as spa employees warned each other about Epstein, who was known among staff for being sexually suggestive and exposing himself during the appointments, according to the former Mar-a-Lago employees.... Epstein had an account at the spa where his companion, Ghislaine Maxwell, booked appointments on his behalf.... Employees sent on house calls, like the 18-year-old beautician, were typically licensed by the state boards of cosmetology or massage therapy."
I'm influenced by knowing E's predilection for massages, but you're right that she's referred to repeatedly as a beautician.
I asked Grok, Would the word "beautician," applied to a spa employee, ever include someone who gave massages?
Answer: "Yes, the word "beautician" can sometimes include someone who gives massages, particularly in a spa context, but it depends on the region, specific licensing, historical usage, and how broadly the term is applied.The core meaning of "beautician" (especially in American English) is a person who provides cosmetic/beauty treatments focused on hair, skin, and nails — such as hairstyling, facials, makeup, manicures/pedicures, and waxing. Many standard dictionary definitions (e.g., Merriam-Webster, Cambridge, Longman) describe it as someone who gives beauty treatments to skin, hair, etc., without explicitly mentioning full-body massage. However, in practice — especially in some legal/regulatory contexts and older or broader usage — the term has occasionally encompassed massage as part of beauty culture...."
Looking more deeply into the topic: A beautician doing a facial might do a face massage and massage is a standard part of a luxury manicure or a pedicure.
Wince said...
Employers do have a legal duty to police third-party sexual harassment of the employees by customers.
And Trump did so, apparently quite admirably. Seriously, what more do you want?
1: Employee comes back, tells her manager "he pressured me for sex"
2: Manager faxes the boss (Trump), says this happened, have to do something about it
3: Trump faxes back "shitcan the asshole"
What more do you want? Give exact, precise, details, of what you want. "Go to the police?" With what evidence? Did the employee want that? Or was she happy with what Trump did?
And when doing a shampoo, a luxury place will include a scalp massage and I think a neck/shoulder massage is often included.
"Licensed [Florida] cosmetologists (and facial specialists) can perform scalp massage as part of facials or hair treatments, and neck massage is explicitly allowed under the scope of practice (limited to face, scalp, neck, hands, and feet for aesthetic purposes — not therapeutic full-body massage, which requires a separate massage therapy license under Chapter 480). So in a Florida spa, a beautician/cosmetologist providing a shampoo service could legally include scalp and neck/shoulder massage as long as it's kept within those aesthetic boundaries (e.g., light manipulation with products, not deep tissue work for medical benefit). Many luxury spas combine these seamlessly under cosmetology services."
How does this story compare with what Trump has said about Epstein membership or being barred from the resort?
@Althouse, here’s what a different AI -/ the one provided by Google — has to say:
“The types of massages a beautician is permitted to perform are strictly regulated by state licensing boards and are limited to specific areas of the body as part of a beauty treatment.
During Hair Services: Beauticians are allowed to perform scalp and neck massages as part of shampooing or other hair treatments.
During Nail Services: Hand, arm, foot, and lower leg massages are standard components of manicures and pedicures.
During Skin Care Services (Facials): Facial specialists (estheticians) and cosmetologists can perform massages on the face, neck, and décolleté to promote skin health and relaxation.”
GoogleAI goes on to state that beauticians are explicitly barred from performing full body and/or deep tissue massages.
Ann Althouse said...
Looking more deeply into the topic: A beautician doing a facial might do a face massage and massage is a standard part of a luxury manicure or a pedicure.
Coincidentally, I'm also looking more deeply into the topic and was just about to book a "back facial" for myself.
I was motivated by this video of a British esthetician with an ASMR voice over.
I find it a complete turn on (even though the client is it's her "not so little brother"). Her series of videos a fascinating to watch and especially listen to.
If a spa employee complained to a dem owner, Epstein would stay, employee would be fired
Ann Althouse said...
"Licensed [Florida] cosmetologists (and facial specialists) can perform scalp massage as part of facials or hair treatments, and neck massage is explicitly allowed under the scope of practice (limited to face, scalp, neck, hands, and feet for aesthetic purposes — not therapeutic full-body massage...
Hahaha... Even more coincidentally, I'm in Florida right now where I'm about to book that "back facial"! Too funny!
Years ago, the guy who was cutting my hair started giving neck and head massages out of the blue. Nice guy and did a great job cutting hair, but that was unexpected. I think I told him that I would tip him more to stop.
Matt Taibbi has another good article about how awful the coverage of this has been and how many of the accusations against Epstein are not credible:
https://www.racket.news/p/five-craziest-things-about-the-epstein-377
I typically just get a haircut and beard trim, or neckline and beard trim between cuts, but Sport Clips offers a shampoo, hot towel, and neck massage treatment here in Louisville. Sounds like it might be a standard offering across the company.
Imagine a situation where Trump, in 2003, called up the DA and said "Hey, the Epstein guy hit on one of my employees. I banned him, but I think maybe he pays underage girls for sex."
The DA says "Yeah, thanks for the tip."
Trump, dissatisfied with the brush-off, calls his pals at the New York Post and says the same thing.
And on Monday, Epstein's lawyers serve him papers for defamation of character.
Trump did what he could... kicked him out. But being 18 she is the one who would have to call police or whatever.
Here we are coming to the close of 2025, and all that Kak/Richsockpuppet/paidActbluetroll could spam copypasta for a year was that Trump was toast with the Epstein. Since then the Epstein files have shown:
Clintons (democrat leftists)
Congressional democrats texting Epstein (leftists)
Hackademics Chomsky, Summers (leftists)
Keir Starmer's cabinet members (leftists)
UK labour party ministers (leftists)
Only mention of Trump is him giving Epstein the boot out, and a badly forged photo of him during an unrelated beauty pagent the democrats lied about.
Of course, who can forget when pressed on his hackery, Kak/RichSockpuppet/paidActbluetroll did the Psaki circle back and said ' Let the chips fall where they may."
Well, the chips HAVE fallen-squarely on the leftists and democrats, the house wins, you lose and it's time for the margin call.
And yet, your hypocrite, incel hiney is nowhere to be found...
“ How does this story compare with what Trump has said about Epstein membership or being barred from the resort?”
To ask that question is to demand that the questioner answer it zir self.
In 2003, all of Hollywood was still sucking off Harvey Weinstein and knew what he was doing.
What about all the kids who are being sex trafficked easily because of Biden's open border.
If you are sexually abused - against your will - as in - raped - you go to the police. Get a rape kit. All the things. That's how it works.
https://www.racket.news/p/five-craziest-things-about-the-epstein-377
From Gerda Above. Everyone should read it. Get an education.
At the free for all |victim" showcase - allowed by an idiot judge -
One of the "victims" clamed her life was ruined at age 15. She lived in TEXAS. Claimed she was at a Texas mall, and was approached by a woman who saw her with her violin case. The woman told her (the 15 year old) that a nice man wanted to hear her play. so she agreed to go to Epstein's house where he raped her.
Problem is - Epstein never lived in Texas.
universities that deal with sexual assault through campus processes and don't report it to the police
Because the allegations often won't hold up under police scrutiny, much less a court's. Someone should study how decades of this have ruined relations among the young.
Trump did the right thing. Bravo. But the Lefty Losers: "Orange Man BAD!"
I can’t imagine why Trump, Bondi, Patel and Mike Johnson have fought so hard to cover up the Epstein files.
"Mar-a-Lago Spa Sent Teen Workers on House Calls to Jeffrey Epstein's home"
Let's see. This story is about things that happened--the hook is that for the first time there is another story about the Trump-Epstein falling out--in 2003. 2025-2003=22 years ago. WSJ news coverage is trending towards the slot between the Daily Mail and the National Enquirer.
Emma Tucker should be fired.
Employees sent on house calls, like the 18-year-old beautician, were typically licensed by the state boards of cosmetology or massage therapy.
"Typically" is one hell of a weasel word.
Anybody hear about Jack Smith’s testimony on the 17th? The one where he admits to being a dishonest piece of shit hack?
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