December 6, 2025

"The President kind of holds up his hand and says, 'No, no, no, hold on a second. There's something much more important. Shoes.'"

"He peers over the Resolute Desk and he says, 'Marco, JD, you guys have shitty shoes.' He goes out and grabs a catalog... And he actually runs us through this incredible shoe catalog. The President is gifting us with four pairs of shoes.... He says, 'Marco, what's your shoe size?' And Marco's apparently an 11 and a half. He says, JD, what's your shoe size? My shoe size is 13. And he asked this [other] politician... what his shoe size is, and he says 7. The President leans back in his chair and says, 'You know you can tell a lot about a man by his shoe size.'"

You can't lie about your shoe size if the shoes are going to be ordered by the other person and he's expecting you to wear them, and besides, if a man's shoe size is 7, his feet are going to look pretty small. So there was no escaping the penis-size innuendo. Or maybe Trump wasn't promising to buy that other guy new shoes. It was only Marco and JD who got called out for having "shitty shoes." Maybe the whole thing was a deliberate set-up to humiliate the man JD doesn't name.

Notice what a gleeful consumer of Trump's penis-size humor JD Vance is. 

And it's interesting that Marco Rubio was part of the scenario, since he was the one who used penis-size innuendo against Trump 9 years ago.

101 comments:

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The obvious answer is a small shoe the size of a large shoe.

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Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Marco sure has changed his opinion on Trump. I forgot how they brawled in 2016. That ABC clip is hilarious.

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rhhardin said...

ANNA
You've got big feet.

WILLIAM
Yes. Always have had.

ANNA
You know what they say about men with
big feet?

WILLIAM
No. What's that?

ANNA
Big feet -- large shoes.

Noting Hill (1999)

gadfly said...

There is no such thing as an "incredible" shoe catalog, and nobody needs four new pairs of shoes. Further, it is none of Trump's business what kind of shitty shoes Little Marco and the Hillbilly wear.

Beyond that, buying comfortable shoes from a catalog is difficult unless you know the shoes will fit. For example, I know that I can go to Amazon, pick out a pair of ECCO shoes size EU-47 that can be worn immediately without the need to try them on. But not everyone can do that and the salesperson has to make some adjustments.

It occurs to me that Dumb Don's new walking difficulty may have something to do with his acquiring the catalog.



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buwaya said...

I used to order Florsheim or Timberland size 10's online with confidence. Would last me a couple of years.

Jaq said...

Is it possible to post anything with the letters 'T','r','u','m', and 'p' arranged together in a row without it serving as rage bait for our resident barn fly?

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Funny. Last I attempted to order the same shoes I ordered 3 times in a row before, they didn’t have my size. They had every other size but mine. Fearing missing out on Black Friday, I looked for an alternative and ordered it. Same brand. When I got it, however, I was not happy with it. It lacked what I liked about the shoes I wanted in the first place. I could easily slip my foot in and out. So, I attempted to return them. Followed the instructions. Contacted the seller for the return label. I didn’t know it was a problem, but the label was in Chinese. USPS nor UPS would take it. Went back home, translated the label using Google translate. The address was somewhere in China. UPS had told me it needed to be an address in the USA. Back to my Amazon account to find out I need to contact the seller and relate my problem. Message sent. I got this response: “The shoes from the old order do not need to be returned. You can handle it yourself. Thank you for contacting us and we wish you a happy life“.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

For me the actual procedure by which the President of the United States buys someone a pair of shoes from a catalog remains mysterious.

gilbar said...

i spent the last 40 years wearing sneakers (usually Converse Allstars)..
Last year, i bought a pair of retro combat boots (black, shinable, with the Panama soles)..
I can't describe how much better i feel wearing a pair of shiny black boots

gilbar said...

oh, my boots were made in North Carolina, by McRae

Kakistocracy said...

"You can't lie about your shoe size" Hilarious....

FWIW:
Edward Green -- by far the most comfortable of the traditional English shoemakers, beautifully designed and made with very high quality materials

C&J: very, very good, a touch below EG, pricing now materially lower

Of the non-English shoemakers, JM Weston of France and Alden from the US are both very good

If you’re able to do so, go to Northampton and visit the various factories themselves and the factory shops for best value.

While there, visit 78 Derngate: The Charles Rennie Mackintosh House which is truly spectacular.

Josephbleau said...

Now that the subject has come up, I have had good luck with Rockports, strong and reasonably priced.

Mr. Forward said...

I was at the Circus World Museum in Baraboo and asked a clown why he wore such big shoes. He said he started as an elephant trainer.

Josephbleau said...

It I do like my custom made moccasins from the place in New Berlin Wisconsin that everyone knows about.

Dave Begley said...

Beckett Simeon. I used to buy Allen Edmunds, but they have declined.

tcrosse said...

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Dave Begley said...

Edward Green shoes are over one thousand pounds.

Colleen Brown said...

Does anyone remember the time Marco Rubio wore low heeled boots during the 2016 primary campaign? He was mocked by everyone, but I liked them. They reminded me of Beatle boots!

Ann Althouse said...

I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had a shoe catalog.

Ann Althouse said...

I asked Grok what catalog the President probably had.

"I'd guess it's the Allen Edmonds catalog.Trump's known for his fixation on high-end, classic American menswear (think bespoke suits and polished wingtips), and Allen Edmonds fits that vibe perfectly: it's a heritage brand with roots in Wisconsin (a nod to his Rust Belt appeal), offering premium, Goodyear-welted dress shoes in a wide range of sizes up to 16+. The catalog's got that old-school, thumb-through feel he'd plausibly keep handy in the Oval Office for "upgrading" his team's style on the spot. Plus, it's politically incorrect enough to tie into the shoe-size innuendo without being too flashy. Runners-up could be Alden (for the artisanal craftsmanship) or Edward Green (ultra-lux British bespoke), but Allen Edmonds screams "presidential power move" to me."

Wilbur said...

El Trumpo coulda' used the Althouse portal to get those Allen Edmonds shoes.

Loved the quip at 6:31.

Maynard said...

The nice thing about retirement is that I only buy Hokas now.

tommyesq said...

Gadfly wants to live in a country where he gets to decide how many pairs of shoes one can own.

Temujin said...

Trump is such a bizarre human being. And so funny.

mezzrow said...

Allen Edmonds $100 Ebay Challenge | Great Shoes For Less

jim5301 said...

I hear Hitler was a fun guy too, except when he wasn’t.

Ralph L said...

Wouldn't have thought Little Marco (5'9") would wear 11.5.
I've switched to Puma sneakers because their soles are a little narrower, so my feet don't slosh around as they do in most medium widths. Try finding a narrow width men's shoe.

rehajm said...

He tiptoed dangerously close to a Shawshank quote there…I enjoy where his mind takes us when he takes an Althousian mental meander. People end up with new shoes. Nice…

Birches said...

Usha Vance is so beautiful, in a normal, "I'm not a supermodel way." Great outfit. I love her.

rehajm said...

Allen Edmonds wold be a safe guess for AI but Trump wears lots of Brioni suits and they have lots of shoes…and they do send catalogs…

I’ve retired to Sid Mashburn myself…

Bob Boyd said...

Big nose?
Big toes?
Fire hose.

Birches said...

The fake pearl clutching about from the media on mentioning hand size is really something. It's easy to see their manipulation now. No one with small children would be concerned there was something vulgar being discussed. They'd just make something up like you have to when your kid starts asking why for every why question.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The epitome of modern leftist scrooges, Gadfly is upset and growing angry because the President presented gifts of shoes to people who work for him. Only a true post-modern progressive could deign to assume an interest in a private exchange of gifts with which he has no connection nor relation and find the transaction lacking.

Hence his personal motto, “To each his own unless I find the desire unnecessary.” The soviet is alive and well in the soul of the demonic left

john mosby said...

Fruit Bat: "For me the actual procedure by which the President of the United States buys someone a pair of shoes from a catalog remains mysterious."

I think he takes his Sharpie, circles the picture of the shoe, annotates it with "Marco-11" and other relevant info, then hands it to his body-man (not bodyguard - rather, a young guy who is always there as a personal factotum), who has the credit-card info for whatever account Trump has set up for small (on his scale) personal purchases.

He's probably been doing this for most of his working life. CC, JSM

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Hitler wore Hugo Boss, Jim#. Maybe you should check with Gadfly on whether it was appropriate or not.

rehajm said...

If you run your foot can spread out as you age and thus your shoe size grows.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I rarely dress up anymore so I have more than 4 pairs of Vans in various colors and styles. I avoid buttons and bows at this point to save my quickly deteriorating fingers for what I love: guitar and cooking.

Jaq said...

"I hear Hitler was a fun guy too, except when he wasn’t."

They never abandon this narrative, ever.

john mosby said...

Rehajm: "If you run your foot can spread out as you age and thus your shoe size grows."

True. And it reminds me of Cher's line in Mermaids about how nuns wear the same shoes their whole lives because they never get pregnant, so their feet never swell up. CC, JSM

Bob Boyd said...

Have we ever had a President that was more fun than Trump?

Wilbur said...

I'd like to know where he heard Hitler was a fun guy.

Without a germ of truth behind it, it's not witty or even amusing. It's just Trump living in his head.

Wilbur said...

My correct shoe size since age 14 had been 11B. I've comfortably worn 10.5 regulars my whole life.

Achilles said...

jim5301 said...

I hear Hitler was a fun guy too, except when he wasn’t.

If jim5301 actually thought this was true he would never say it out loud or post it on a public forum.

But they are so stupid they don't realize this. They don't realize how dumb this makes them look.

And then you get to the projection part of it.

Randomizer said...

So what did we learn from this?

JD can tell an engaging story with a saucy little punch line that does not embarrass the tiny feet guy.

Trump acts like a big boss who takes care of his people. He busts their chops about their shoes, educates them, then generously buys them four pairs.

Nice shoes are supposed to air out for a day with cedar shoe trees inside to dry the sweat. So, a pair to wear, a pair from yesterday, a pair getting shined and a pair for a spare.

Nobody does that, but it could be standard for old school, NYC, captains of industry.

We learn which Democrats ignore the story or chuckle, and which Democrats are humorless scolds who should be avoided.

planetgeo said...

OMG, gadfly wears (gulp) size 47 shoes! And he wants us to know it. (You know what that means...yes, he and Bozo the Clown often shop together.)

Aggie said...

.."Sat up in Harlem,
at a table for two
There was four of us there,
Me, your big feets, and You..."
- Fats Waller

My money is on Miss Lindsay.

Ann Althouse said...

I always heard that "feets too big" song when I was growing up because my mother, who was 5'6", wore size 11 shoes. No shoe store carried that size women's shoes. She had to order all her shoes from a catalog called Tall Gals. Tall Gals, not Big Footed Gals.

Ann Althouse said...

You were just assumed to be tall if you needed big shoes. But 5'6" was pretty tall back then. Taller than I am!

My name goes here. said...

I did not think it was possible for me to love a politician.

Years from now after whomever succeeds Trump and gets painted as the even worser Hitler and then the democrats get one of their candidates in office and everything goes to hell someone will stand up and say out loud that maybe we need to go back to when the President was autisitc.

Political Junkie said...

Big feet...large toenails.
I am tall/very tall. The penis proportionality thing might be true, but I wish it had been more true. I played high school basketball with a guy who was a foot shorter than me, but he had a tree trunk between his legs. I tried not to see it, but it was impossible to miss. Learned about "fairness" at a time like that.

boatbuilder said...

I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds loafers online during covid.
They were and are the most painful footwear I have ever encountered (and I am a downhill skier). I thought they just needed to break in, so I didn't return them and wore them a lot. They still haven't broken in.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Why is sizing inconsistent? Vans I’m a 12, Nike it’s 11.5 and Adidas was 10.5 as I recall. My Armani dress shoes I don’t even remember! But the Hi-Tec hiking boots were 11 I’m pretty sure.

Bob Boyd said...

No mention of Trump's shoe size.

Political Junkie said...

Allen Edmonds - Yes

Political Junkie said...

Since we are talking footwear, never forget the boots/outfit Condi wore in 2005 to address troops somewhere. WaPo had a photo and style story. The troops in the photo, male and female, are loving Condi's look.
I wish in an alternate scenario she was America's first black President.
Oh well.
Cheers all!

Bob Boyd said...

Remember the gold Trump sneakers that were like $400?

planetgeo said...

Mike (MJB Wolf), those are all tennis shoes and probably made in some Asian country. I've noticed over the years that tennis shoes made in Asia have shrunk considerably, particularly in width.

boatbuilder said...

Now the press will investigate and there will be a scandal about Marco Rubio's shoe size, with careful analysis of grainy video's by experts who once worked at Nordstrom's.

boatbuilder said...

Also--the entire purpose of the story was a humblebrag by JD.

Beasts of England said...

Alden of New England is the only way to go. One of the few companies left that makes shoes from shell cordovan. 14-D if anyone wants to get me a Christmas present…

(Shell cordovan is horse hide. Gorgeous stuff.)

Bob Boyd said...

You have to kill a horse and a half to make one pair of shoes for Beasts.

Narr said...

OTOH, Marco has ee-normous ears. Wouldn't you agree?

Iman said...

Say man,
Don't walk ahead of that woman like she don't belong to you
Just cause she got them too big feets
You know, that ain't no way to do
You didn't act like that when you had it home behind closed doors
Alright
Now you act like you're 'shamed or somethin'
Or you don't want nobody to know she's your's
That's alright, you just walk on baby
And don't you worry about a doggone thing a'tall, huh huh
Because there's some man, somewhere, who'll take you baby, too big feets, fat bottom and all


h/t Joe Tex

Howard said...

With my Alley Oop feet, I only buy Xero shoes of the barefoot minimalist genre. Thin soles, no support, super flexible and a wide toe box.

The phrase "death begins in the feet" is widely cited as a traditional Chinese proverb. The saying highlights the importance of foot health, suggesting that because the feet are the foundation of the body and the furthest point from the heart, problems there can be an early indicator of wider systemic health issues, particularly those related to circulation.

Narr said...

I only wear shoes of crushed Corinthian leather. Corinthians crush so beautifully.

Iman said...

In other news…

BREAKING: Family of January 6th Pipe Bomb suspect say he is not a Trump supporter, contradicting claims made by many in legacy media.

https://x.com/alx/status/1997159648332226744?s=20

mindnumbrobot said...

This is all just a ploy to distract from [fill in latest phony-baloney scandal]! Also, Hitler, or something.
...
I'm fairly casual, so I prefer Clarks. Comfortable, well made, and affordable.

Bob Boyd said...

@ Iman
5'6" with little feet...even his pipes were small.

john mosby said...

Narr: “ I only wear shoes of crushed Corinthian leather.”

Entonces, tu es mas macho! Como Ricardo Montalban y el Chrysler Cordoba! CC, JSM

rehajm said...

I tried not to see it, but it was impossible to miss

…show-ers and grow-ers, Junkie…

Kakistocracy said...

The modern gentleman is not merely someone who owns nice clothes. He understands that his appearance is a form of communication, a courtesy extended to the world around him.

Dressing up is a kind of respect, a self-respect and also respect for the people around you, It hasn’t ever changed. It’s really what a gentleman is about: their character and how they carry themselves and how they are with other people.

Good dressing is about the man's build, the place, the occasion, the company, the weather, and taste. Education, observation, self knowledge and awareness help. A good partner, colleague, or friend will share some meaningful and discrete impressions. Buy well and sustainably with material that delivers over time.

Rusty said...

Having lived my working life wearing out redwings and danners and timberland every six to nine months I finally settled on sketchers.

Jersey Fled said...

“ Edward Green shoes are over one thousand pounds.”

Must make it hard to lift your feet.

Beasts of England said...

’You have to kill a horse and a half to make one pair of shoes for Beasts.’

At least they didn’t die in vain - shell cord really holds a shine! :)

Beasts of England said...

Kak @ 9:32 - on point.

Charlie Currie said...

As a high school junior/senior - 62-64 - I wore Florsheim wingtips and brogues. High school! Can you imagine? Those steel pie shaped wedges in the heal to protect them from wearing down. The click as you walked the corridors and the asbestos classroom floor tiles. Even died my oxblood brogues black and wore them with my class A's in the Army. Memories. After returning from Vietnam in '69 I went to buy a pair - they were sh$t at three times the price. Never could find a pair of wingtips that were as comfortable and fit as well. Never bought heavy souled shoes again. Cole Hahn penny and tassel loafers became my go to shoe. I still have a pair of black tassels in the closet I haven't worn in 26 years.

donald said...

I wore my vans hiking in Joshua Tree Wednesday. They were better than boots! It was a revelation. It was 70 degrees, I went in the Cottonwood entrance and there was absolutely nobody around. Incredible day!

Kakistocracy said...

@ BoE: This is the interesting psychological aspect, the clothes you wear do play a huge role in defining you, whether you like it or not. And not only define your perceived status and role in society but also, within yourself they both reflect and impact on how you feel and what kind of social rank etc you feel you are at.

Really makes you think what your daily appearance reflects.

Beasts of England said...

Totally agree, Kak. As I’ve entered semi-retirement I’ve become much more casual in my dress, rarely even tucking in my shirt, which is something that would have mortified me a decade ago. Although my girlfriend requires me to have my shirt tucked in when we’re together. She doesn’t like the Lake Bum Beasts. lol

Ralph L said...

Ronald Reagan, whose father was a shoe salesman, recommended changing shoes in the afternoon to feel rejuvenated. Maybe that's why the upper class used to dress for dinner, though they weren't exactly working hard during the day.

RCOCEAN II said...

IRC, OJ had size 12 shoes. Size 13, means you're bigfoot.

jim said...

moronic

Skeptical Voter said...

Well maybe JD with his size 13s can "Big Foot It" over Lil Marco in 2028. And what the heck I wear a size 15 but I'm not running for President. Let these little fellers duke it out on their own.

Kurt Schuler said...

The only reasonable response is, "I'm a 26 EEE."

Political Junkie said...

kak at 932. Good point, though there are interesting exceptions. Teddy Forstmann, Princess Diana's one time love, is an example. He wore Polo Knit shirts a lot in the 80s and 90s, when other's dressed up in suit and ties.

Wilbur said...

Kak, you are correct.

I owe my first wife a debt in that she made me read Dress for Success by John T. Molloy in the early 80s.

Over the next 4 decades I experienced the difference in the way people (especially strangers) perceive you and interact with you based on your mode of dress and how you carry yourself. I was fortunate in that I am tall and of slender build and clothes looked good on me.

A properly knotted tie, a crisp shirt, good posture ... it matters.

RCOCEAN II said...

Brilliant

RCOCEAN II said...

Woody.

Achilles said...

Howard said...

With my Alley Oop feet, I only buy Xero shoes of the barefoot minimalist genre. Thin soles, no support, super flexible and a wide toe box.

I have worn 2 sets of those until they get a large hole on both feet.

They last a lot longer now that I run barefoot instead.

James K said...

My wife teased me for years because when we met I was wearing Rockports. She cajoled me into wearing only leather-soled higher quality shoes. Nowadays it seems that everyone is wearing "dress sneakers" with suits. Allen Edmonds has a whole line of them. I still haven't bought any of those, and wear my leather-soled Allen Edmonds shoes even in semi-formal settings, but I seem to be an anachronism.

Jim at said...

There is no such thing as an "incredible" shoe catalog, and nobody needs four new pairs of shoes.

It's not up to you to determine what other people may or may not need.

Jim at said...

I hear Hitler was a fun guy too, except when he wasn’t.

And he wore shoes, too!
Good catch.

Clyde said...

Poor gadfly. He seems so unhappy that Trump isn't gifting any shoes to him!

Not Illinois Resident said...

Allen Edmonds shoes, Port Washington, WI

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