"The administration’s action is not just a regulatory shift but the latest signal that the federal government does not recognize even the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth. If finalized, the proposed new rules, announced by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at a news conference Thursday morning, would effectively shut down hospitals that failed to comply.... The new rules come one day after a divided House of Representatives voted to approve legislation that would criminalize gender transition treatments for minors.... Another [Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] rule would prevent Medicaid from paying for the treatments for minors. And the Food and Drug Administration announced that it was issuing warning letters to 12 manufacturers of breast binders, tight garments used to flatten and masculinize chest appearance under clothing, for 'illegal marketing' of the products to children as a treatment for gender dysphoria.... Mr. Kennedy cited [an HHS report] to argue that the treatments do not meet professionally recognized standards for medical care...."
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"Trump Moves to Prevent Access to Gender-Related Care for Minors/Proposed new rules would pull all federal financing from hospitals that continue to provide gender treatments for adolescents" (NYT).
The NYT expresses worries about denying "the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth," but recognizing the existence of transgender persons does not dictate the belief that they require medical treatment or that the currently proffered treatments are ethical. There are many phenomena that are recognized but not treated. That's the basis of the old credo "First, do no harm."
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Meh. Has Judge Boasberg ruled on this. I think not. And he's the King. Nothing can be done unless he approves it first.
If Hillary had won in 2016; the NYT by now would be writing about how Epstein was only providing a service to those that are minor attracted persons, and now that service should be financed by the federal government.
This is bullshit.
Everyone that was involved in turning a healthy child into a eunuch should be publicly executed.
A child's perceived prerogatives are not recognized in most cases until they reach majority.
If a person's putative 'rights' depend upon the efforts or property of another, then it's not a 'right'.
We are emerging from a period of a destructive social-contagion that was supported by institutionalized harm, often to children, and that's a good thing.
The entire "denying their existence" narrative is a dishonest dodge and always has been. People with mental illnesses and fetishes exist.
"Gender-related care" sounds nice. Makes me drop my opposition to mutilating children.
If the NY Times wrote "Gender Altering Intervention for Minors" rather than "Gender Related Care for Minors," public opinion might shift a tad, dontcha think? That said, do I detect a shift away from the the disingenuous "Gender AFFIRMING care" label that was used uncritically for years?
Notice how the NTY turned off comments on this one...
Hmmmm....
Dems going to introduce the "Cut an Spay Act" of 2026?
Sex established at conception and gender or sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation) from six weeks. Abort?
Most simulants are either temporarily confused or dissatisfied with their physiology or homosexuals in the transgender spectrum. A minority are transsocial living with misogynistic pride and prejudice. #HateLovesAbortion
We are just following the wisdom of the Europeans who have basically done the same. Isn't that satisfactory for the New York Times audience?
Protecting children from predatory health care providers. Make the criminal penalties against doctors & hospitals painful.
Name one newborn who has any concept of their gender identity at birth.
...not just a regulatory shift but the latest signal that the federal government does not recognize even the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth.
Good. This brings us in line with the UK and much of the EU.
FEDERAL FUNDING.
the key words.
OF COURSE tax payer should not pay for the left's insanity.
It's ironic that "gender affirming care" is anti-gender affirming.
The late Michael K (z''l) talked about how the state made all doctors perform one abortion to get their license.
Seems like if that can happen, government can also make hospitals violate their religish beliefs on trans stuff. CC, JSM
Minors....Minors.
It's been very troubling that we've been carrying out medical and surgical procedures on children....children, without sufficient research to show that these permanent treatments are necessary and effective.
In addition, we've created a permission structure for these transitions to take place behind the backs of the parents. Immoral.
Start with the Cleveland Clinic.
I am noticing more tranz & tranz-adjazent terrorizm, anyone else? Beyond worrying about Big Harma's mutilation hustle, I am very concerned that the massively obvious mental illness that is tranzgenderizm is currently manifesting in the way we understand mental illnesses to fundamentally be, a threat to the health, safety and welfare of others.
That is - fundamentally - the reason why we make these distinctions. I care not for harmless loons that want to cut their junk off. I care a great deal about militant basket-cases that hate the world because people won't lie for them.
forgot to close the italic. Apologies.
By the way, wasn't there a time when Blogger wouldn't let you publish a post if you hadn't closed all the italics and bold?
...Begone, forthwith.
Oops again
Italics begone.
“First, do no harm” went out the window when the medical profession accepted abortion on demand as being ethical.
"Notice how the NTY turned off comments on this one..."
The New York Post does this too.
Every time a black guy pushes an old white lady in front of a subway train ... BAM ... they turn off comments. They don't want to hear about all the black crime in America.
When the media does this, it's an indication that you are to RECEIVE their dictat and they don't want to hear anything from you about that. They're gonna shove it down your throat. It's worse than Pravda. It's Nazi-level public manipulation.
Fuck 'em. It's great that AI is making permanent homeless out of journalists in the United States. They deserve everything they've got coming to them.
Democrats lean into political congruence, entertain abortive ideation, and Dream of Herr Mengele with redistributive change. Deja vu.
“First, do no harm”
Doctors in the 60s were injecting black men with syphillis and then giving them fake treatments so they could document the entire cycle of the disease.
You can trust a doctor about as far as you can throw one. They have zero moral compass.
Elective abortion is an ethical (i.e. theory of moral relativity) Choice, a wicked solution of progressive persuasion exercised with liberal license.
@FLC, there is no signal-to-noise ratio...what they called noise has become the signal. Technology has opened the barndoor and all the cultural bugaboo data cattle are out and openly roaming the interstate.
The stereotypes they told everyone weren't real are real. They'll never be able to herd them all again.
Trans is fundamentally a religious belief. It denies science in that the role of genetic inheritance is completely discounted. In its place, the trans religion posits the existence of a supernatural being that assigns invisible sexual determinators to human beings at conception. (Human beings exclusively to most adherents, though their are heretics who make claims regarding their pets.)
Unlike the biblical Yahweh, this trans deity is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. It is an accident-prone demiurge that frequently misassigns sexual identity. (The believers' theological term of art for this, "gender", was lifted from philology out of sheer dunderheadedness.) Nor is it empowered to correct its mistakes. That power is reserved to the deacons serving under the priesthood who wield the holy blades that slice and carve the mortal flesh of children in a rite of bloodshed and pain that persists until death.
It's a pretty goddamned shitty religion that fully deserves the fate of the Cathars.
A minority of simulants will Choose to take affirmative action to entertain abortive ideation of selfie and/or others, gender corruption therapy notwithstanding.
Since the covid scam, trust in doctors is at an all time low. With the addition of child mutilation people should never trust a thing they say. These people who dont believe the actual science of biology need a psychiatrist not a surgeon.
@Megthered, to Quaestor's point I don't think psychiatry will help. If anything, they are and have been in on it. There are absolutely spiritual/cultish/zealous overtones to this hysteria. They need an exorcist.
Is there a word for when you make a dishonest statement by leaving out a key word like "illegal" with immigration or "minors" here?
"care"
the federal government does not recognize even the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth.
1) The rule is limited to minors. So imagine the illogic if the Trump administration was cracking down on people who wanted to have sex with minors. It would be as if the NYT were saying, "the federal government does not recognize even the existence of children who want to have sex with adults."
Your bias is obvious, NYT. You favor the practice, overlooking the dangers of the practice, and overlooking the fact that the feds are attempting to protect minors.
Frankly I think just denying money to people who would mutilate children is weak. I would hit them with severe criminal sanctions.
In general the left is way too impressed with what medical doctors -- or other "authorities" -- say, and they are willing to allow those authorities to do things that are horrific.
The next step will be for DOJ to facilitate class action lawsuits against the doctors that performed the “gender-affirming” surgeries. Pauperizing a bunch of doctors will work wonders.
"In general the left is way too impressed with what medical doctors -- or other "authorities" -- say, and they are willing to allow those authorities to do things that are horrific."
This has nothing to do with what medical doctors say. This has everything to do with what trannies say.
This type of "medical" procedure used to be a punishment, the most serious form of humiliation often done just prior to execution by the worst possible means. Now people demand it, and pay for it. Human evolution must be a pendulum.
One of our 700 district court judges will issue and injunction. IT will then be overruled and appealed. What will happen after that is anyone's guess.
The Federal Judges run the Executive branch. Not Trump.
"...the federal government does not recognize even the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth."
LOL. I know I am not the only one who read that first sentence and scrolled down to confirm it was NYT
recognizing the existence of transgender persons does not dictate the belief that they require medical treatment or that the currently proffered treatments are ethical. There are many phenomena that are recognized but not treated. That's the basis of the old credo "First, do no harm."
I agree, 100%. The suicide rate is astronomical among people who have the surgery. What if this is a mental illness, and the best way to treat it is to change your patient's mind, to heal her mental processes?
Why jump to steroids for girls and castrations for boys?
The suicide rate is astronomical among people who have the surgery. That, in and of itself, would strongly suggest there are mental health issues.
Bring back the Hippocratic Oath!
Maybe the NYT ought to read its own paper. Iran is the go-to place for this surgery. Wouldn't that be a hint that there are moral issues with the surgery?
minor attracted persons
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, albeit queer, and not yet politically congruent. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveWins
Besides, all's fair in lust and abortion. #WhyNotToo
Gender corruption therapy in Iran is a viable choice through moral arbitrage.
If you tell me you are a pangolin, and I disagree, how does that deny your existence? You are right there telling me stuff. I think it's clear that you exist. It's just the pangolin that's missing. Telling me something untrue does not make you disappear, and agreeing with you doesn't make the pangolin appear either.
This whole phenomenon is so dishonest and counter-factual that it's historic in its ridiculousness, and I think it will be remembered that way.
> Pauperizing a bunch of doctors
> will work wonders
So will heads on pikes, which has the further benefit of being so long out of practice that it will be spectacularly attention-getting.
As a religion, it is unconstitutional for any government under the authority of the United States to have any role in the exercise of trans rites -- no money, no facilities, no publications, no public school classes or textbooks. By the same token trans should enjoy the advantages of separation of church and state. However, I'm certain the believers will drift away once they start paying for the rites entirely by themselves.
"Iran is the go-to place..."
It exterminates the infidels proactively.
The Teachers Unions(D) are all-in on gender-sex obsessions for children. under their rainbow umbrella of abuse.
while they abandon actual learning.
The teacher unions have a long history of protecting, defending, promoting, and harboring sex predators.
They love molesting and mutilating children for kinks.
The NYT expresses worries about denying "the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth," but recognizing the existence of transgender persons does not dictate the belief that they require medical treatment or that the currently proffered treatments are ethical. There are many phenomena that are recognized but not treated. That's the basis of the old credo "First, do no harm."
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Your Puritan ancestors would be proud, ann.
Also, you seem to understand -- and approve -- that they won't be stopping with children. Trans people don't need any medical treatment for their condition...
Just like: Gay people can be gay all they like; what they can't do is have sexx... You'd have made a fine Catholic back in the day, annie oldlady.
(I can't wait until they come for the divorcees, and tell you that you had your one marriage for life. Just because it didn't work for you and Mr. Co-hen doesn't mean you get to have another one. Divorcees can live without remarrying you know... Live by your logic, lady.)
Regarding Iran there's an important distinction...SRS is compulsory for both gender dysphoria and intersex in Iran by fatwa. While foreigners may make use of the country's existing medical expertise, SRS is by no means a choice for anyone that lives there or intends to live there long because failing to obey, they won't be.
They love molesting and mutilating children for kinks.
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Yup. Don't forget to hit her tip jar for giving you a place to express your views. What a woman she is, eh fellas?
Don't you have some waterfowl you and your adulterer "husband" should be out irritating? Get out and do your thing, lady. The blog commenters are counting on you. lolol.
YOu too shall pass... we can wait your types out.
Brits are debating whether to do a trial on puberty blockers. So kids would be taking them. Is there an idea that the change can be reversed up to a point?
Do you think your readers are half hard and excited discussing something they know nothing of?
What will you do with all the tips coming your way, old proffy? What toys will your boy garner this year? You old hateful hag. Dawn is in a better place gone into the afterworld. There's a reason God took her so soon...
Lloyd W. Robertson said...
Brits are debating whether to do a trial on puberty blockers. So kids would be taking them. Is there an idea that the change can be reversed up to a point?
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Some people evolve more slowly than others.
Some reject science and expert medical opinions... wait until we start denying your cancer care and "experimental" medical treatments old boomers... YOu'll get yours.
Not only are selfie-abortions a probable outcome of gender corruption therapy, but they are an unpredictable Choice for all simulants, and collateral damage of equivocation and inclusion.
So will heads on pike
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What the world needs now... is more death threats? Cmon people... just wait out Mother Nature to deal you all the final blow. The world keeps revolving, even if you choose to stomp your pretty little feet and say, "NO! Not on MY watch..." Your watch will be ending in a few decades, at best. You're not in control of other people forever. Enjoy your alleged dominance when you can. And don't cry too hard when we start nipping away at your health choices, and personal lifestyle choices. God knows you "single moms" and divorcees haven't been properly punished yet.... Wait and see. The Puritans will come for you and yours too.
"From "Trump Moves to Prevent Access to Gender-Related Care for Minors/Proposed new rules would pull all federal financing from hospitals that continue to provide gender treatments for adolescents" (NYT)."
Do you suppose that the NYT would ever refer to conversion therapy as "sexual orientation treatments"?
Sex was not assigned at birth, and not be a pediatrician. It was assigned roughly nine months before that. By You Know Who.
Jersey Fled said...
Sex was not assigned at birth, and not be a pediatrician. It was assigned roughly nine months before that. By You Know Who.
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God loves trans people.
He made 'em.
He also made kids with cancer, and nobody is denying them medical care right now either...
YOu're not God. STop playing.
That's the basis of the old credo "First, do no harm."
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lol. He also is pushing cannibas... let the kids smoke themselves silly! You couldn't raise your own two sons properly. Now you want to dictate how other people raise their own. AND... you get all preachy too? Oh you silly girl. Your destiny is to grow old with... meade, the half wit, lazy ass who is bringing you down, down, down. You don't see it yet? lol. Ain't no heaven for you, professor. You're grow older, uglier and die in a big house full of hate for Others. That's what YOU chose. God bless ya.
Birth control has been widely available, cheap and effective for roughly 50 years.
So when I hear femmes bleating about their "right" to have someone perform an abortion for them, when they EASILY could have avoided it, I conclude they are nothing more than skanks, lacking "reason and responsibility".
A child is not capable of consenting to these "treatments". This is why we do not let them vote, drink, buy a car, drive, get a tattoo, or have sex. We have long agreed that they lack adult capacity. They cannot imagine how great sex is or how it feels to want (and have) children. Preteens/teens who are gay/lesbian often are confused and feel shame about their feelings. Much easier to decide they are trans and get "treated". Never mind the failure rate of the surgeries (fake organs that don't function, necrosis, bad smell, etc) and the inability of the hormones to relieve the mental distress. Having the parent insist on it does not eliminate the problem of lack of consent any more than a parent agreeing to give their daughter as a bride age 9 make that right.
These are the same shits that want to educate young kids about how to give a blowjob or anal sex as if that was needed for people to be "tolerant".
"The teacher unions have a long history of protecting, defending, promoting, and harboring sex predators."
When asked why he robbed banks Willie Sutton replied: "Because that's where the money is."
Planned Genderhood
"Gender affirming care" is as inaccurate a term as you could possibly create.
"Sexual reassignment surgery" is much better and would be completely accurate if it was proceed by "attempted".
Suppose the surgery works and a man totally has the appearance of a woman. It's so successful, nobody suspects that this man is not a woman. And "she" falls in love and seduces a heterosexual man, without telling him that she is a transexual post-op.
Is it ethical to lie like this? What if he wants children? You can't have children, and you know it.
You have to lie about your entire history. You can have no photos from your childhood. And your new husband can't meet anybody from your past. Can't meet any family or friends from your pre-op days. You'd have to bury your entire history, in a massive cover-up scheme. And if he ever found out, there is a good chance that he would reject you. Yes? So you live in fear all your days.
That is not a good prospect for a happy life.
ccscientist said...
A child is not capable of consenting to these "treatments".
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Let's make them wait until they're 18 to get chemotherapy.
Lots of risks. We can't trust the parents to make the right decision on behalf of their child...
"First do no harm". Let Mother Nature take its course. They could die from the treatment, you know...
"You can have cancer. It doesn't mean we have to get you medical help... even if it can help you. So sayeth the bright minds at meadehouse." Logic, baby.
I don't even know how the surgery would work on a woman who wants to be a man. I doubt very much you would be able to ejaculate any semen. I would think a heterosexual woman would wonder about such things. "Where is the semen?"
If the whole idea of the transexual movement is that you cannot talk about or admit what you were pre-op, how is that not a massive lie and cover-up? And how is any of that mentally healthy?
""Where is the semen?"
The answer is revealed in "There's Something about Mary"
Excellent. I always thought genital mutilation had us sinking as low as Muslims.
Some whack jobs (surgical that is) can't be reversed, even if the whack job who asked for the surgery has later changed their mind.
Gender simulation for males involves carving and for females amending. Perhaps grooming for empathetic congruence.
Homosexuals are believed to transition in utero, probably after reaching viability at six weeks with neural evolution. You've come a long way, baby... fetus.
To me, the evil is making an optional decision for a minor without informed consent. Why not wait til 18 yo like smoking?
"This is actually good news for the Democrats! A large majority of the populace does not support this care for minors, and it is a major losing issue if Democrats remain staunch supporters. Hopefully hospitals will end the practice, and Democratic leadership will see that the public furor over it is limited to a very small but vocal minority and realize it's time to move on. It's time to tackle "winnable" policy issues!"
Most alleged simulants will pass puberty, come out as homosexual, or socially progress in drag. Johns Hopkins determined their evolution follows a nonlinear, coupled chaotic model that precludes anthropogenic intelligent prediction. Just do it anyway? How very green.
"It's an outrage that they're banning this thing that never happens, and it's good that it does."
Saint Croix said...
I don't even know how the surgery would work on a woman who wants to be a man. I doubt very much you would be able to ejaculate any semen.
Phalloplasty: Creating a New Penis from Donor TissueThis is the primary method for constructing an adult-sized penis (typically 4–6 inches or more). It uses microsurgery to harvest skin, nerves, blood vessels, and sometimes muscle from a "donor site" (usually the forearm or thigh) and shape it into a phallus.
Achilles, that doesn’t actually address my point. You’re not going to get semen from a thigh or a forearm. Reproduction is impossible. Sexually it would not work very well.
Saint Croix said...
Achilles, that doesn’t actually address my point. You’re not going to get semen from a thigh or a forearm. Reproduction is impossible. Sexually it would not work very well.
Oh I agree. They are still a eunuch for all intents and purposes.
That is the goal of the people pushing this stuff.
My how arrogant of you, professor, to think that no transgender youth who might have been helped by early medical interventions or those receiving medical treatments today will not be harmed by the sum of your fears. I remember before you met meade when you trusted science and rule of late that parents make these decisions, not the "boogity boogity don't mutilate the kids!" mouthbreathers you regularly host here.
I get it. You don't trust you'd have made the right decision for Chrissy, and it's easy for kids of divorce if these decisions are out of your hands. Parents will still do what it takes to get their children the medical help they need for their loved ones.. wait and see.
At least they can toke their troubles away, eh? Think of the children! Just don't break your arm patting yourself on the back denying said children needed medical care. You're no hero Ms. Grinch. Give the people what they need ...
Rule of law, rather.
Parents and doctors should decide. Not a majority vote or politicians who see this as a political issue to exploit. The government will one day choose your health care too, old lady...
i recognize the existance of MANY flat chested women, that are suffering from itty bitty titty disphoria..
HOWEVER, that Does NOT Mean; that:
a) *my* taxes should have to pay for their boob jobs..
b) that minors should be getting boob jobs..
cosmetic surgery is ELECTIVE surgery
I love the ignorance on display here
Educate yourselves? No one lies about who they are to trick others into bed; no one is trying to obtain sperm via forearm, though some of the better prosthetics indeed mimic ejaculation.
We're not going away and we won't be denied what we've already gained. Go find another minority now to scapegoat?
The other crazy thing is that children haven't been through sexual puberty yet. Puberty changes your sexuality. Why would you do anything to stop that process? Puberty is normal. Just like pregnancy is normal. These are not illnesses. You "doctors" are not curing a disease.
What about sexual orientation? If you're a girl attracted to girls, giving yourself a non-working artificial penis is not going to make yourself more attractive to girls. You've cut yourself off from homosexuality and made heterosexuality highly unlikely. And if you're a girl attracted to boys, giving yourself a non-working artificial penis is not going to make yourself more attractive to boys. You've cut yourself off from heterosexuality and made homosexuality highly unlikely.
It seems to me that there are high risks this surgery will isolate people from any and all sexual relationships. Your fake new body causes stress, anger, and fear whenever you try to get into a new relationship. And this isolation and anger causes higher suicide rates.
Doctors are not helping these kids, or their parents.
That is the goal of the people pushing this stuff.
I don't think it's a coincidence that all this stuff is coming from a left that is worried about overpopulation and global warming. They want to encourage small families or no families. That's why they are so gung-ho for abortion, castration, suicide, euthanasia. Population control is their #1 goal, subconsciously (and maybe consciously).
Harry Blackmun even identified "population growth" and "pollution" and "poverty" and "racial overtones" as possible factors in his opinion in Roe v. Wade.
Imagine one of these leftist quacks defending his practice by saying, "And it helps with population control."
Bagoh20: "If you tell me you are a pangolin, and I disagree, how does that deny your existence?"
I would totally sign up for pangolin reassignment surgery. Walk around with armored plating all the time? Roll up into a ball for extra safety? And they have really long tongues, too, right? I could become very popular....but I would also be popular in a different way in Chinatown....uh oh....CC, JSM
FullMoon said...
"...the federal government does not recognize even the existence of people whose gender identity does not align with their sex at birth."
Well, most of us reality based people agree. Well, all reality based people. If you believe people can change their sex, you're not based in reality.
I'm sure there are still some old-timey abortion providers who have spare time on their hands, and can remove some healthy breasts and genitals with a rusty coat-hangar in a shop on a back-street alley.
Wait. You mean: they won't do it, either?
America!
I am Laslo.
Josephbleau said...
“To me, the evil is making an optional decision for a minor without informed consent. Why not wait til 18 yo like smoking?”
Or 25 like renting a car (*).
(*) - Depending upon how you ask Grok.
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