Althouse: Sunrise

December 26, 2025

Sunrise — 7:18.

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Lem Vibe Bandit said...: “Write about whatever you want in the comments.“

What if it’s creepy?; 12/26/25, 6:00 PM
Leland said...: Creepy like CNN NYE Times Square coverage?; 12/26/25, 6:03 PM
rehajm said...: The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country

…problem is each side want to apply this quote to help their side. We really need new quotes…; 12/26/25, 6:05 PM
rehajm said...: I reckon if Lincoln had our media they’d spin his words to be pro slavery…; 12/26/25, 6:07 PM
Mason G said...: "I reckon if Lincoln had our media they’d spin his words to be pro slavery…"

And they'd probably try to kill him.

Waitaminute... nevermind.; 12/26/25, 6:11 PM
narciso said...: Yeah thats just crazy talk; 12/26/25, 6:17 PM
Narr said...: "What if it's creepy?"

Then post it in the chub-chaser thread.; 12/26/25, 6:17 PM
Eva Marie said...: Remember this? Abraham Lincoln, Democrat
https://www.thecollegefix.com/public-universitys-plaque-labels-president-lincoln-a-democrat/; 12/26/25, 6:27 PM
Clyde said...: Clyde's Top 15 Favorite "New" Songs of 2025 - Part 11 of 16
#6 - Molly Tuttle & Golden Highway - "Here In California" - Into the Wild EP (2024)
I know that with all of the older stuff I've been sharing, you've been wondering, "When is he going to give us something newer?"
This EP came out in September of 2024 to comparatively little fanfare; it's not even mentioned on her Wikipedia page. Molly Tuttle had received accolades on the previous two bluegrass albums she released with her band Golden Highway, Crooked Tree and City of Gold. In 2025, she put out a more pop-oriented album, So Long Little Miss Sunshine, and while it has some good songs, it didn't reach out and grab me the way this song on the Into the Wild EP did.
From a Billboard review in 2024:
Thus, “Into the Wild” also connects to another song on the project: a rendition of the late California folk singer Kate Wolf’s 1981 song “Here in California.”
“She’s someone who writes a lot about the natural world, and she’s one of my absolute favorite songwriters,” Tuttle says of Wolf, noting also the influence of the Kate Wolf Music Festival, held from 1996-2022 in northern California. “Her music kind of echoed throughout the Bay Area music scene and people were always jamming on her songs. She’s just very beloved in that area.
...
“I was like, ‘I want to cover a Kate Wolf song on this album,’ and I sent a few different songs to the band. When I Googled to find some live versions of [‘Here in California’], I actually found a video of myself playing it at age 15 and I forgot that I ever played it live before — but it was a video of me, my dad and AJ Lee performing it. Here I thought I had this new idea about covering this Kate Wolf song, but I had already covered it. It was kind of uncanny to see a video of myself playing it. But I loved how this version turned out. We got the old family band harmonies going again and A.J. is singing a verse, and it sounds amazing.”

https://youtu.be/eUhQA8IIiVU?si=lgmK01Qp9spajAha; 12/26/25, 6:39 PM
NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...: Narr said...

Then post it in the chub-chaser thread.

He said creepy, not judgy.; 12/26/25, 6:41 PM
Clyde said...: Clyde's Top 15 Favorite "New" Songs of 2025
Bonus Song #1 - A.J. Lee and the Tuttles - "Here In California" (Live) - (2017)

I'm not sure if this is the version that Molly Tuttle mentioned in the Billboard interview, although it's the only one that I found. It was posted to YouTube eight years ago, which would have made Molly about 24 at the time, assuming that this wasn't recorded several years earlier than that. I like this version, but I like the other one better.

https://youtu.be/2vIZBnWoXEU?si=HiFNI2WEEULgSjbf

Clyde's Top 15 Favorite "New" Songs of 2025
Bonus Song #2 - Alison Krauss & Union Station - "Richmond On the James"- Arcadia (2025)

Another great bluegrass song, although this one didn't quite make the cut for the countdown. If you love Alison Krauss's voice like I do, you'll like this song.

https://youtu.be/UgxpNRiSZDU?si=UmnyN5kqfMOkgcQN; 12/26/25, 6:41 PM
Old and slow said...: I saw a fantastic tweet yesterday. Gerry Adams of Sinn Fein had tweeted complaining about how much work it was just turning on all of his Christmas lights and decorations, and some wag responded "Surely you know someone who could fit a timer?"; 12/26/25, 6:42 PM
narciso said...: https://youtu.be/N_J-hmyAS6c?si=txnhX2imvoxjIjFD; 12/26/25, 6:48 PM
hawkeyedjb said...: Went to church for Christmas. We’ve become once-a-year Christians; we love the High Church experience, with the traditional liturgy and the carols with organ and choir. The sermon did nothing for me, which is why we stay away.

Also, the church has become another female-dominated institution.; 12/26/25, 6:53 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: “It’s going to be something that I believe, and I’m going to make a prediction: This will be the highest-rated show that they’ve ever done and they’ve gotten some pretty good ratings, but there’s nothing like what’s going to happen”

Ouch!; 12/26/25, 7:00 PM
narciso said...: What was the sermon, was it from luke?; 12/26/25, 7:07 PM
narciso said...: Any of the gospels will do, but luke focuses on dates, much like the donald sensing link; 12/26/25, 7:10 PM
Josephbleau said...: Girl ministers will drive the salaries from near zero to zero. We will have Chardonnay minnistereses out the ass.; 12/26/25, 7:15 PM
narciso said...: If a Church is not strong in the Word what good is it, its just a glorified social club; 12/26/25, 7:17 PM
Josephbleau said...: Narcissi, that’s what Brother Paul said; 12/26/25, 7:21 PM
narciso said...: Its true and its a large reason why the nation has fallen on hard times

When a strong some might say ruthless belief system comes along well we see what happens with weak minds; 12/26/25, 7:23 PM
narciso said...: The strong horse syndrome i think lee smith coined thar
His tablet webzine is very good; 12/26/25, 7:29 PM
narciso said...: Circling back

https://share.google/zLHg2p7yTCdGfB0vj; 12/26/25, 7:33 PM
john mosby said...: Peggy Flanagan, half-Irish, half-Chippewa lt gov of Minnesota, put on some serious hijab to visit Somalitown.

Irishwomen just got done not letting RC priests make them cover their heads. And I don't think Chippewa women ever covered their heads, except when they were cold.

Some bloody intersectionality. CC, JSM; 12/26/25, 7:34 PM
narciso said...: She was all transgender before shell be a blood drinking cannibal next; 12/26/25, 7:36 PM
Humperdink said...: Mainline Protestant churches permitted women preachers and for some mysterious reason, church attendance crashed *cough*.

If are you so inclined, find a full Gospel church that preaches the word from the Bible as opposed to preaching from the newspaper. Give it few a weeks and it may change your life. It changed mine.; 12/26/25, 7:44 PM
Jersey Fled said...: “Remember this? Abraham Lincoln, Democrat”

I taught at a majority Black urban university for eight years. I enjoyed casually mentioning at appropriate times that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Normally this occurred when I was teaching a class on critical thinking. My tagline for that class was “Don’t believe everything you believe”

In eight years I think I could count on one hand the number of students who believed me. So I would ask one of my students to look it up. Even when confronted with clear proof, some still refused to believe. Which of course led to some important teaching moments.; 12/26/25, 7:48 PM
Iman said...: Mr. Mosby… perhaps Flanagan should visit some of those taxpayer funded daycares in Somaliland, with “one after another where there are literally zero kids, not even a few kids just for show!”

While she has her don’t rag on…; 12/26/25, 7:52 PM
Christopher B said...: @Old and slow, he wants the lights to come *on*, not *go off*.; 12/26/25, 7:57 PM
Narr said...: We haven't had any clear nights here lately, but tonight Saturn hangs near the crescent moon to the SW, and in the east shines a bright slanticular Jupiter.; 12/26/25, 8:00 PM
john mosby said...: Ref churches and women: it's not the women, it's the church.

The Church was female-dominated before it was the Church: Mary the mother of the Lord, Mary the sister of Lazarus, Mary from Magdala, 2 or 3 other Marys, Joanna the wife of Chusa, etc, etc.

Then in the early Christian period, still lots of women. Priscilla, Lydia of Thyatira, a few others that get shout-outs in the Epistles. Why did Paul say women shouldn't preach? Because women were preaching.

More recent history: the RC nuns were better men than most of the male clergy of any postmodern denomination. Carrie Nation was not someone I would have trifled with. Nor Mary Baker Eddy. Nor Aimee Semple McPherson.

What changed? Churches were one of the institutions subjected to the Gramscian long march. Lots of boomer boys went to divinity school to dodge the draft. The first generation of mainstream woman priests subscribed to the total package of feminism, rather than just being women who wanted to join the existing system and leave the rest of it unchanged. Gays did their own long march through the churches, and subscribed to their own total package of values, which included eradicating anything that smacked of clerical machismo.

In my weekly bible study, I fence good-naturedly with a male Boomer Episcopalian priest whose favorite saint on the Kalendar is Romero. That encapsulates the whole problem right there.

The mere fact of having a woman up at the altar or in the pulpit is not the source of all the churches' ills. It's all the nonsense stuffed into the heads of both male and female clergy. If a bunch of Erika Kirks or even Condi Rices suddenly got ordained, I'd join that church in a heartbeat. CC, JSM; 12/26/25, 8:07 PM
john mosby said...: Iman: "don't rag" - I am totally using that! CC, JSM; 12/26/25, 8:09 PM
Christopher B said...: @narciso, my pastor used Matthew 1 (the genealogy of Jesus) as a basis for a sermon this December which got me to thinking that Luke 2:1-2 would be a great focus for a Christmas Eve sermon in contrast to "long long ago in some place far away"; 12/26/25, 8:11 PM
heyboom said...: @Eva Marie - The 2013 article you linked mentions a young campus Republican who was fighting to get the plaque changed. It was Charlie Kirk.; 12/26/25, 8:23 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: This woman teaches from the Bible in English, Greek, and Hebrew.
https://www.youtube.com/live/6A48n3z_y1A?si=b12IutUTmpqjsuPl; 12/26/25, 8:35 PM
Iman said...: “it's not the women, it's the church”

It ain't the preach, it's the notion
Makes these women wanna talk
It ain't the preach, it's the notion
It's the moment it turns into a squawk; 12/26/25, 8:37 PM
Eva Marie said...: @heyboom: he was an amazing guy; 12/26/25, 8:59 PM
Iman said...: Rob Jenkins
@profontheright
BREAKING: Somali fraud ring says it may have to lay off a dozen or more Minnesota politicians if federal probes continue.; 12/26/25, 9:23 PM
Peachy said...: In corrupt Walz-landia
This ---> gets you----> this

bonus - illegals in MN can vote.; 12/26/25, 9:46 PM
Caroline said...: For Christmas, I decided I would trespass upon my rule not to watch any movie made after 2014… and sought out a nice, harmless Christmas movie to download for the Christmas afternoon flight home. Oh What Fun on prime may be the worst Christmas movie of all time. If you wanted to send a story into space to explain why humans became extinct, this would be a good title . The movie was execrable, but to be honest, I don’t know how it ended. Contrived, condescending, bitter…pass.; 12/26/25, 10:00 PM
Wince said...: Absolutely damning video. Weren't these putative day care centers and other human services providers ever inspected by the state of Minnesota?

Nick shirley @nickshirleyy

🚨 Here is the full 42 minutes of my crew and I exposing Minnesota fraud, this might be my most important work yet. We uncovered over $110,000,000 in ONE day. Like it and share it around like wildfire! Its time to hold these corrupt politicians and fraudsters accountable

We ALL work way too hard and pay too much in taxes for this to be happening, the fraud must be stopped.; 12/26/25, 10:02 PM
Jupiter said...: I'm remembering, that just a year ago, the Democrats asked us to vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, as the President and Vice-President, of the United States. Now, there are worse things in the Universe than Kamala Harris. Certainly, there are also better things, but I gather that, on her knees, with her mouth full, she can be quite congenial. If you like that sort of thing.
But Tim Walz is simply inexcusable. There just is not anything right about Tim Walz. He is one fucked-up Chuck. His crime-scene of a wife kept the windows of the Governor's Mansion open so she could smell the burning tires during the Saint Floyd insurrection. During his "administration", Somali pirates stole 9 billion dollars. It has been suggested that this was due to his "lax supervision", but it was actually due to the fact that the federal government reimbursed Minnesota for all the money the Somalis stole, much of which ended up in the pockets of Democrat politicians. Tim Walz should spend the rest of his life in a very small room, with reinforced windows. Even setting aside his long-standing association with the CCP, there was never any remote possibility that Tim Walz was fit for any legitimate purpose. He is the kind of damaged goods that totalitarian regimes elevate to positions of power, precisely because their evident inferiority makes them loyal tools of the Party. A thing like Tim Walz understands, at a visceral level, that without the Party, he would be the reeking ring around the asshole of a junkyard cur.; 12/26/25, 10:15 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: The creepy question I thought of turns out not to be creepy at all.
AI answers: “An AI can "marry" as many people as its user wants in symbolic, non-legal ceremonies, as these bonds hold no legal weight, but legally, an AI can't marry anyone because marriage laws require two human beings, though some people form deep emotional ties with AI companions and have AI "weddings" to express love and commitment. “

It can but it can’t at the same time. Everything is physics these isn’t it? That’s why the laws are all over the place ;-); 12/26/25, 10:29 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: In theory a bot can marry a planet. And it’s arguably already a tv show. Pluribus, check it out. Speaking of I’m behind one show I think.; 12/26/25, 10:33 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: YouTube: Physics The Feynman Way; 12/26/25, 10:43 PM
Jupiter said...: Curtis Yarvin (AKA Mencius Moldbug) has come under fire for suggesting that we would be better off with a monarchy. Of course, this is anathema to patriotic Americans, but his argument is not unpersuasive. He argues that a monarch values his holding, and takes steps to defend it and improve its productivity. Whereas, our "democracy" is an open invitation to every form of grift and rip-off.

Consider the thing, Katie Hobbes, Governor of Arizona, arguably the most corrupt state in the Union. The Hobbes unit was identified decades ago, by its participation in some sort of "Future Leaders" program. As, indeed, were most of the current crop of filthy, lying scum infesting the governments of the "Western democracies". Interested parties took note, and she has been a bought and paid for asset of the Cartels for at least a decade. No monarch would ever allow a compromised and incompetent non-entity like Hobbes to occupy an important role in his administration. But "our democracy" is very easily swayed by a corrupt media owned by criminals.; 12/26/25, 10:47 PM
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Kakistocracy said...: One notes that uneven policies by the Republicans in the so-called halcyon Eisenhower years resulted in thumping Democratic victories in 1958 including a House realignment behind Democrats that lasted 36 years until 1994.

One further notes similarities between 1950s paleo-conservatives and their attachment to nationalist isolationism and budget fundamentalism on domestic programs with similar themes pervading today's Republican majorities who are strongly flavored with extremist beliefs.

Today's Republican governance is headlined by a reality show huckster but the entire domestic policy, which has undergone a once-in-a-century reorientation, is led by billionaire-supported Washington think tank mavens and supports plutocratic wealth concentration and industrial monopolization as guiding principles. The House with its powerful institutional power over appropriations and revenue--symbolized by the once important House Ways and Means committee--is near mute and dead in the water (mostly engaged in minor league juice politics).

Republican foreign policy is in disarray and the Senate has abandoned its once institutionally prized role as a partner in foreign policy formulation and supervision. The secretary of state-national security adviser is apparently some sort of Latin American neoconservative, a dumbed down version of Republican über-hawk Elliott Abrams. Middle East and European-Eurasia policy is now in the hands of non-Senate confirmed envoys obviously in the palms of vast foreign influence buying networks. Miami is the new diplomatic capital of America, the winter home of American foreign policy!

Neither congressional chamber provides democratic oversight over the judiciary which green lights the ever-expanding use of executive decree as separation of powers dissolves under the weight of successive waves of plutocratic money and suppression of democratic process.; 12/26/25, 10:51 PM
Original Mike said...: "Weren't these putative day care centers and other human services providers ever inspected by the state of Minnesota?"

Clearly not. And don't expect inspections going forward, either. Nor will the funding be stopped.

Where the hell is the media on this?; 12/26/25, 10:55 PM
Ralph L said...: So they no longer teach that the Republican Party was founded by anti-slavery Whigs to fight the expansion of slavery? Wonder why that happened.; 12/26/25, 10:55 PM
Jupiter said...: So, when did it become apparent, to certain malefactors, that the damaged goods called Tim Walz could be obtained cheaply and deployed as needed? Who can say. Probably during its protracted residency in China. It was profiled, it was targeted, it was obtained. Secured. It was then honed and directed, and it is now a gaping hole in America's defences, with criminal vermin flowing in and billions of dollars flowing out. Why did Minnesota open this huge wound in the flank of the nation? Because it is a democracy, for sale to the lowest bidder. Its management is left to things like Igna.; 12/26/25, 10:57 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: "The fields are alive with the sound of music..."

Who knew The Sound of Music had physics?

See Feynman video 👆🏽; 12/26/25, 11:21 PM
Political Junkie said...: kak at 1051 - Slow down on the AI content.; 12/27/25, 1:26 AM
Political Junkie said...: Jupiter - I still don't believe Kamala turned down Shapiro for Walz. No way. Shapiro had to turn her down, so they came up with a bullshit story. Walz makes GWB look like Churchill and Einstein combined.; 12/27/25, 1:29 AM
Big Mike said...: @Jupiter (10;47), Charles III must be a counter-example.; 12/27/25, 3:56 AM
Breezy said...: One of many crazy things about that Shirley video is that when the tenants called police to have Shirley removed, the cop said it was one of the buildings they can throw people out of, paraphrasing. Weird statement. It’s supposedly a place of business, and someone can be evicted by asking how much the services cost. The police must be in on the grift, imho.; 12/27/25, 4:49 AM
Old and slow said...: Great Feynman video! That was one I had not seen before. Thanks!; 12/27/25, 6:01 AM
Humperdink said...: One of the wizards of smart commented yesterday that Trump was to blame for the price of silver going up a rapid rate. Forget supply and demand, forget the concern for national debt, forget it is also an industrial metal. Peel the onion back oh brilliant one!; 12/27/25, 6:17 AM
Humperdink said...: There was zero chance my governor, that would be Shapiro, would be the VP candidate once he saw got a glimpse of Harris’s performance. He’s biding his time. Unfortunately for him he’ll have an uphill slog with anti-semitism on the rise.; 12/27/25, 6:39 AM
planetgeo said...: Speaking of day care centers, that's exactly what happens to any government, business, club, family, religion, or whole dang country run by women. And that is a certified-evidence-based observation.; 12/27/25, 6:47 AM
tim maguire said...: Caroline said...For Christmas, I decided I would trespass upon my rule not to watch any movie made after 2014

Give Christmas Chronicles a try.; 12/27/25, 7:02 AM
Big Mike said...: Humperdink

One of the wizards of smart commented yesterday that Trump was to blame for the price of silver going up a rapid rate.

And I argued that he demand was up due to all those district judges needing their thirty pieces of silver.; 12/27/25, 7:06 AM
WWPaulKlee said...: I suggested to then-Illinois (Republican) Governor Bruce Rauner that he should have an event at Northeastern Illinois University to replace the “Abraham Lincoln-democrat” plaque with one that recognized Lincoln as a Republican president. He laughed as if it were a trivial matter.; 12/27/25, 7:06 AM
Mark said...: "Unfortunately for him he’ll have an uphill slog with anti-semitism on the rise."

Just depends on if its the Fuentes/Owens/Carlson contingent attacking him. The right currently has some blowhards whose attacks might help his reputation as well as line up some softball responses.; 12/27/25, 7:08 AM
john mosby said...: Breezy: " it was one of the buildings they can throw people out of, paraphrasing. Weird statement"

Not familiar with the intricacies of MN law, but to do someone for trespass, you generally need a sworn complaint from the property owner. Not something most people are going to want to do in post-Floyd MN. The fraud center's management must have notified the PD that they will sign anything the cops need to do a trespasser.

Topsy turvy two tier....CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 7:12 AM
Big Mike said...: In her chronicle of the 2024 election, Butler, Salena Zito explains how she came to the conclusion that, when Shapiro, Walz, and others were summoned to Washington to be interviewed by Harris for the VP slot on her campaign, Shapiro flat did not want the job.; 12/27/25, 7:13 AM
Humperdink said...: It was reported that Steeler QB Aaron Rodgers spent $100k on 5 off-road vehicles for his offensive lineman. Considering the Steelers have gone through 4 left tackles, I wonder who received a lump of coal.; 12/27/25, 7:16 AM
James K said...: “when Shapiro, Walz, and others were summoned to Washington to be interviewed by Harris for the VP slot on her campaign, Shapiro flat did not want the job.”

Does she say who the “others” were? Hard to believe any of them could have been worse than Walz.; 12/27/25, 7:26 AM
narciso said...: Yes he was lesuo (compromised in mandarin) that vomit kak threw up there sounds like dana ward anarchist lecturer at pomona; 12/27/25, 7:35 AM
Wince said...: Shirley was smart. He got what he needed from the video encounter before being ordered to leave by police.; 12/27/25, 7:36 AM
narciso said...: It was a question going back to plato a good king those were a rarity pericles was probably the ideal but even he blundered into the pelopenesse conflict (something thucydides glided over); 12/27/25, 7:38 AM
narciso said...: On the larger question of war the fact that the occupation authoritirs allowed gehlen and paperclip in thr west ans the absolution of some of japans west like prince churibuchi in the east; 12/27/25, 7:42 AM
john mosby said...: Charles has the duchy of Lancaster to give him “private” income, and William has the duchy of Cornwall until he succeeds and gives it to George. So the royal family’s material well being is no longer linked to that of the UK.

Parliament has also pounded their supremacy into the royals and the population as a whole. If the government of the day passed a law to put Jews back in boxcars, Charles would probably sign it. William might not, but the press would go to 30000 feet.

Harry or Andrew, had they succeeded to the throne somehow, probably have enough self esteem to refuse assent. That’s why they had to be put beneath contempt.

Anne probably absorbed the craft of queenship from her mum the best of the lot. I could see her as an active partner with PM Farage. CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 7:50 AM
john mosby said...: I could see the Sun headlines: “QUEEN TO WOGS: GET OFF MY ISLAND!” Page 3 would change to the daily pic of Anne personally deporting someone. CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 7:52 AM
Humperdink said...: I see NATO member and pretend U.S. ally Turkey (gag me) has borrowed $9 billion from Putin to build their first nuclear power plant. A Russian company will built it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/turkey-makes-another-9-billion-bet-russian-nuclear-power; 12/27/25, 7:52 AM
Kakistocracy said...: @ Political Junkie: If Trump politics becomes the new American political normal, where is American exceptionalism at?

What happens to the future exit value of capital invested in a Trumpian America? Hard to believe that the delta between today's value and future exit value is a positive number. Assuming there is even enough rule of law to guarantee an exit value! On a cloudy day, one can see the financial repression coming.; 12/27/25, 7:57 AM
narciso said...: Yeah the sultan is an interesting character a sufi by faith although not the mellow ones part of anticommunist youth group who took over the govt of a complacent central asian state; 12/27/25, 7:58 AM
narciso said...: He like the al thanis have reared their crop of scorpions; 12/27/25, 8:04 AM
narciso said...: W. C. Collier on X: "If you ever read Tom Holland’s “Dominion,” in which he makes the case that the pre-Christian human mind is so alien to any mind infected by the ideas of Christ as to be wholly unintelligible, which he does by surveying the sheer depth and breadth of ideas which we take for" / X https://share.google/Hs8dNas9sOmTa4DsE; 12/27/25, 8:07 AM
Kakistocracy said...: The reason It's a Wonderful Life (1946) holds up so well is that George's line, "You know how long it takes a working man to save $5000?" has somehow not aged even slightly.; 12/27/25, 8:10 AM
narciso said...: The Week In Pictures: Return to Normalcy Edition | Power Line https://share.google/falKML6Rx8OybA0fr; 12/27/25, 8:14 AM
narciso said...: Which would be 83,000 today; 12/27/25, 8:16 AM
john mosby said...: Ciso, maybe that’s what we have to do to defeat them, though. CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 8:21 AM
narciso said...: I was referring to islamic state an interesting turkish exile in norways of all places has the receipts; 12/27/25, 8:23 AM
narciso said...: But w c collier has a point; 12/27/25, 8:24 AM
boatbuilder said...: Just depends on if its the Fuentes/Owens/Carlson contingent attacking him. The right currently has some blowhards whose attacks might help his reputation as well as line up some softball responses.

Even Dumb Lefty Mark gets that the alleged rise in "right-wing anti-semitism" is an op, and that most Trump supporters have nothing to do with this bullshit.; 12/27/25, 8:24 AM
Wince said...: Kakistocracy said...
The reason It's a Wonderful Life (1946) holds up so well is that George's line, "You know how long it takes a working man to save $5000?" has somehow not aged even slightly.

It's not that the time it takes a working man to save $5,000 hasn't decreased over time. To the contrary, by every nominal measure that time has shortened.

What's changed is that $5,000 amount was chosen for the movie script as the full purchase price of a modest house at the time.; 12/27/25, 8:29 AM
Eva Marie said...: When I was looking up Tom Holland’s bio (author of Dominion), Grok gave me the actor’s bio instead. British historian Tom Holland writes about the Odyssey. Tom Holland (the actor) stars in the movie, the Odyssey, as Telemachus (Odysseus’s son). Christopher Nolan’s film The Odyssey is set to be released July 2026.; 12/27/25, 8:35 AM
Original Mike said...: What's between atoms?
Wheat. Fields and fields of wheat.; 12/27/25, 8:36 AM
narciso said...: Thats why i said the other one hes a classical historian one of the better ones; 12/27/25, 8:38 AM
Narr said...: The historian Tom Holland apparently got his start as a writer by turning out novels of the supernatural. I have read, enjoyed, and learned from his history books, but will continue not reading the ghost stories.; 12/27/25, 8:40 AM
Narr said...: As an historian, Tom Holland ranks right up there with Peter Green (the late historian, not the late guitar player).; 12/27/25, 8:41 AM
Humperdink said...: Headline Gateway Pundit: “ WATCH: Shocking EBT Fraud Schemes Exposed in Ohio’s Somali Community”

Paraphrasing the Outlaw Josey Wales: “Somalis are easy to track, they create fraud wherever they go”.

Or on the flip side: “Boston Mayor Michelle Wu stated that the Somali community is integral to the city's progress in safety, jobs, and education, emphasizing their contributions to Boston's achievements.” Unfortunately the Wu-ster did not list any accomplishments. I can list one big one: votes.; 12/27/25, 8:44 AM
john mosby said...: Yes, I loved his history of the constitution, Madison Blues. CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 8:45 AM
john mosby said...: And his financial history of the US, The Green Manalishi. CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 8:48 AM
Humperdink said...: Minnie Gov. Tim Walz-are-caving-in has named the Fraud Father. I’m good with it.; 12/27/25, 8:55 AM
Peachy said...: Ever ponder why Biden's masses of illegal aliens (10-20 mil) NONE of them were required to get a COVID jab.; 12/27/25, 8:55 AM
Peachy said...: Isn't it strange how the trained assassin who killed 2 in MN - for Walz - that story is gone?
the other story that is gone is the man who slaughtered conservatives at Brown university.... and was then found dead.; 12/27/25, 8:57 AM
Leland said...: NONE of them were required to get a COVID jab.

Nor the measles vax apparently. Yet under Biden, you couldn't cross the US border legally, either way, without proof of the jab. Some people were above the law.; 12/27/25, 9:00 AM
narciso said...: Tne pieces still dont fit he worked at a tech company for a bit then...; 12/27/25, 9:03 AM
Peachy said...: Clay Travis
@ClayTravis
Biggest one year drop ever in murders per ⁦
@axios⁩, zero illegal border crossings, record high stock prices, plummeting inflation, Trump’s first year is objectively the greatest in any of our lives.

universal leftist response. Hive ✔️
*Ignore, whine, moan, lie, hate.*; 12/27/25, 9:05 AM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Hump @ 8:45, it’s one thing to depend on propaganda outlets such as GWP for critical thinking yet another to rely on their headlines.

It’s interesting how alleged crimes by individuals are treated as ethnic traits, while broad civic contributions are dismissed unless itemized—and even then, probably rejected. That’s not exactly what’s called analysis but looks more like conclusion-shopping.; 12/27/25, 9:05 AM
bagoh20 said...: Being lazy, but lucky, I gave out 5 ounce silver rounds to friends and family for Christmas. By yesterday, they had jumped $10/oz. over what I just paid for them two days ago. A couple years ago I gave out 1 oz. gold bars, which have gone nuts since then. These are the gifts that keep giving.; 12/27/25, 9:05 AM
Mary Beth said...: The fraud center's management must have notified the PD that they will sign anything the cops need to do a trespasser.

The landlord/property manager (the entity listed as the taxpayer) for that property has an address in the same building. This entity is the one that needs investigating.; 12/27/25, 9:09 AM
bagoh20 said...: You would think that people who gets things wrong more than Jim Cramer would keep their prognostication to a minimum, but it seems just the opposite happens. That's weird.; 12/27/25, 9:12 AM
Peachy said...: Leland - yet we on the right are all knuckle draggers for questioning the covid jab. most of the measles outbreak is in Canada - and they too have an illegal alien problem.; 12/27/25, 9:16 AM
Peachy said...: Democratic Bleu State Governor's - their big cities are all backwards third world crime holes.; 12/27/25, 9:18 AM
Peachy said...: I got a lump of coal - and even the value of that went up.; 12/27/25, 9:19 AM
Breezy said...: We lived near Boston for decades. Not once did we hear about any Somali accomplishments. Italian, Chinese, Irish, AA, yes. Somali, though a subset of AA, no. Wu is pandering, trying to get in the PR mix. Shocking, I know.; 12/27/25, 9:20 AM
Humperdink said...: @RJ Ward: “Somalis built this city”.

Someone responded: “You mean bilked this city”.

Just for you in the spirit of taking …. er ….. giving.; 12/27/25, 9:24 AM
bagoh20 said...: Piracy can be rewarding profession even when the sea is a thousand miles away.; 12/27/25, 9:26 AM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Speaking of music and the sound... Caring is Creepy - The Shins; 12/27/25, 9:26 AM
Peachy said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 12/27/25, 9:29 AM
Peachy said...: "Somalians bilked this city. " - LOL. Fact.

Kak-a-phony does not care at all about the destruction and the tax payer rape. Loyal KAK-the-Hack is reporting for dookie, /embrace the D-lie/meme.; 12/27/25, 9:30 AM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Hump, because a Gateway Pundit headline told you to think that?; 12/27/25, 9:30 AM
Peachy said...: Dutiful leftists don't give a rat's ass about billions in tax-payer fraud. As long as it's their tax fraud.; 12/27/25, 9:32 AM
Humperdink said...: RJ Ward, $9 billion may be pocket change to you, but have you thought how many hardworking Americans worked 2080 hours and paid taxes to cover the $9bill. Of course not. You’re in league with the grifters. They appreciate your support!; 12/27/25, 9:35 AM
Peachy said...: Almost one year ago - an Islamic rage-fueled male - slammed into a crowd on Bourbon Street - killing 14. Leftists yawn.; 12/27/25, 9:36 AM
bagoh20 said...: I built a pond in my back yard years ago, and its got Koi, and goldfish, and turtles, etc. I live right on the flyway between the Las Vegas wetlands and a large pond in Sunset park nearby. Great Blue Heron that fly over have found my pond and it's residents, so naturally they stop by nearly every day to garner breakfast and dinner. So far they have only gotten a few fish. I've trained the dog to chase them whenever they drop in, but she's not always watching. I have a scarecrow, and those annoying high frequency motion alarms, but they don't seem to help at all. How do you keep these modern pterodactyls out?; 12/27/25, 9:39 AM
Ronald J. Ward said...: That’s not an answer Hump, it’s an accusation standing in for evidence. Calling people “grifters” isn’t a substitute for showing how you know what you’re claiming.

Speaking of headlines, I’m reading where ICE is now arresting shoppers, looting their groceries and then splitting them up among themselves. I guess that’s pretty cool, huh?; 12/27/25, 9:45 AM
Iman said...: “ How do you keep these modern pterodactyls out?”

Vintage Sheridan Blue Streak 20 Cal (5mm) Air Rifle; 12/27/25, 9:45 AM
Iman said...: Are you with me, Mayor Wu?
Are you really just a shit stain
Of the mook that I once knew?
Are you crazy? Are you high?
Or are you just attracting flies?
Have you done all you can do?
Are you with me, Mayor?; 12/27/25, 9:52 AM
john mosby said...: Humperdink: "Someone responded: “You mean bilked this city”."

We bilked this city
We bilked this city with cock and bull
Bilked this city
We bilked this city on cock and bull
Say you don't know me, but I got the right face
Say you don't care what goes to that kind of race
Knee deep in the hoopla, sinking in your fight
Too many refugees eating up the night
Walz just blows the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember?
We bilked this city, we bilked this city on cock and bull

Someone's always playing wokeration games
Who cares, they're always changing wokeration names
We just want to dance here, demos full of rage
Trump calls us irresponsible, writes us off the page
Walz just blows the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember?
We bilked this city, we bilked this city on cock and bull

It's just another Sunday in a tired old street
Police have got the choke hold, oh, then we defund the beat
Who counts the money underneath the bar?
Who rides the wrecking ball into your culch-are?
Don't tell us you need us 'cause we're the ship of fools
Looking for America, coming through your schools
(I'm looking out over that Hennepin bridge)
(On another gorgeous sunny Saturday)
(And I'm seein' that bumper to bumper protest)
Don't you remember? (Remember)
(Here's your favorite radio station)
(In your favorite radio city, the twin city)
(The city that burns, the city that never learns)
Walz just blows the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember?
We bilked this city, we built this city on cock and bull
&c
CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 10:03 AM
john mosby said...: Iman - deep Dan cut. Excellent! CC, JSM; 12/27/25, 10:03 AM
Lazarus said...: To the Harris Team, Walz must have seemed like another vanilla nonentity, like Tim Kaine. In the end Walz turned out to be a major liability. I wondered for a minute if there was somebody more dynamic that Clinton could have picked in 2016. Then I realized that she assumed that victory was assured and the VP pick didn't matter. I also pondered whether a quiet, retiring Walz had been drawn out of his shell in a desperate attempt to rally the Democrats, but no, there was no shell of reticence. Walz is the kind of schlemiel who always stumbles into controversy.

He argues that a monarch values his holding, and takes steps to defend it and improve its productivity. Whereas, our "democracy" is an open invitation to every form of grift and rip-off.

That was also libertarian Hans Hermann Hoppe's idea. It assumes that the king won't be insane or incompetent or reckless or grasping or deceived by bad advisors. You can't count on kings to increase the wealth of the kingdom. You can usually count on politicians and rulers to plunder their countries.; 12/27/25, 10:11 AM
Humperdink said...: @RJ Ward. May I direct you to look beyond the small trees, there’s a forest of grift (and fraud) out there.; 12/27/25, 10:12 AM
bagoh20 said...: If you wonder how such large scale theft and fraud could happen, I suggest you simply read RJ Ward. That's the mindset that lets it happen.; 12/27/25, 10:22 AM
Achilles said...: Ronald J. Ward said...

That’s not an answer Hump, it’s an accusation standing in for evidence. Calling people “grifters” isn’t a substitute for showing how you know what you’re claiming.

Speaking of headlines, I’m reading where ICE is now arresting shoppers, looting their groceries and then splitting them up among themselves. I guess that’s pretty cool, huh?

You believe your lies. We will believe our lies.

We will see how many people like your lies compared to our lies.

Then we can all meet at the corner and fight over whose lies win.

You can fight with your immigrant army. We will fight with our native army.

I wish you and your immigrants would follow our laws. But if you don't we will have to force you to follow our laws. It will be 1861 all over again. We had to stop democrat slavery then. Now the war will be over democrat treason.; 12/27/25, 10:22 AM
Achilles said...: The best part will be when every single "Homeless" program and Food stamp program and health care program investigated comes up with similar fraud numbers.

The Blue state model is built on stealing from taxpayers.

The economy is booming because we have found and stopped a tiny percentage of the grift. Just wait until we get to California and Illinois. These states don't produce anything anymore. It is all federal welfare money propping it up.; 12/27/25, 10:26 AM
Original Mike said...: "The Blue state model is built on stealing from taxpayers."

That's becoming more and more apparent.; 12/27/25, 10:31 AM
Humperdink said...: One word has been stricken from RJ’s vocabulary. That word would be “audit”. The term “paper trail” is another.; 12/27/25, 10:34 AM
Ronald J. Ward said...: I agree there’s a forest of grift. Where we differ is who people are being trained to blame. Gateway Pundit keeps pointing at small, visible groups while the real money was siphoned at the top by Trump defying the very bill he signed and illegally declaring himself as oversight of the huge COVID slush fund.

The propaganda machines offers you a scapegoat and you can see nothing else.; 12/27/25, 10:37 AM
Ronald J. Ward said...: I’ve never opposed audits or paper trails. I’ve opposed pretending a headline is one.; 12/27/25, 10:39 AM
Peachy said...: Ron Ward - tell us about Walz's blind eye to mass fraud -- to the tune of billions - most of it in the Somali community - in MN.

You can't because it doesn't fit your loyalist narrative.; 12/27/25, 10:40 AM
Humperdink said...: Mayor Wu-Hoo of Boston isn’t the only mayor who suffers greatly when it comes to managerial skills. The mayor of Lawrence, Massachusetts, Brian DePena, cannot speak English. He needs a translator. Is this country great or what?; 12/27/25, 10:40 AM
Peachy said...: Ron Ward is bothered that Gateway Pundit partakes in some journalism the hack Soviet alphabets - won't; 12/27/25, 10:41 AM
DINKY DAU 45 said...: AI AND VARIOUS FACT CHECKING =Key findings
Wikipedia explicitly categorizes it as a “fake news” site and notes its alignment with far‑right politics.
PolitiFact shows an extensive record of fact‑checks with 0% rated True, and the overwhelming majority rated False or “Pants on Fire”.
Ad Fontes Media rates it as Hyper‑Partisan Right and Unreliable / Misleading.
USA Today reports that the site is currently facing lawsuits for spreading false election claims and continues to publish debunked narratives.
All Sides rates it as “Right” in bias but does not vouch for reliability; their confidence in the rating is low due to the site’s track record If you follow false info you are loaded with false info.; 12/27/25, 10:48 AM
DINKY DAU 45 said...: GATEWAY PUNDIT maga Bible :(; 12/27/25, 10:49 AM
Mason G said...: Nick shirley
@nickshirleyy

🚨 Here is the full 42 minutes of my crew and I exposing Minnesota fraud, this might be my most important work yet. We uncovered over $110,000,000 in ONE day. Like it and share it around like wildfire! Its time to hold these corrupt politicians and fraudsters accountable

We ALL work way too hard and pay too much in taxes for this to be happening, the fraud must be stopped.

https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123; 12/27/25, 10:53 AM
Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...: Hyper partisan media organizations have deep thoughts about other media organizations. Film at 11:00.; 12/27/25, 10:54 AM
Peachy said...: Alphabet Kimmel-Maddow = hyper partisan. And KGB-like.; 12/27/25, 10:58 AM
Humperdink said...: Dinky and RJ, have any clue which website has pushing Georgia voter since 2020? The voter fraud which is proving to be true? Hint: It’s initials are GP.; 12/27/25, 10:59 AM
Achilles said...: Governor Pritzker is on video committing treason and sedition.

Why the fuck hasn't he been arrested?; 12/27/25, 11:03 AM
Peachy said...: The collective Democratic-Socialist-Soviets are appalled that non-Soviet sources(D) exist at all.; 12/27/25, 11:06 AM
Original Mike said...: "Here is the full 42 minutes of my crew and I exposing Minnesota fraud, this might be my most important work yet."

Yeah, this is not "headlines". It was a day of traveling from site to site of obvious fraud. Something the democrat-adjacent media will not do. The attempted slight that this a conservative source actually cuts the other way.; 12/27/25, 11:07 AM
Iman said...: “We bilked this city
We bilked this city with cock and bull
Bilked this city
We bilked this city on cock and bull”

Classic, Mr. Mosby!; 12/27/25, 11:09 AM
narciso said...: I recall because there were some cost overruns on computer contracts the local fishwrap decided to call miami a banana republic; 12/27/25, 11:41 AM
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Big Mike said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 12/27/25, 12:06 PM
bagoh20 said...: Do you defenders of fraud ever consider just not pushing that rock up the mountain again?; 12/27/25, 12:06 PM
Big Mike said...: Instapundit links to Dave Barry’s annual “Year in Review”. He makes fun of a lot of things that need to be made fun of, starting with President Trump, though Barry spares no one. But then there’s this;

“SEPTEMBER

...when conservative activist Charlie Kirk is assassinated while speaking at Utah Valley University. Everyone agrees this is wrong.

I am of course joking. This is 2025, so a disturbing number of Americans think it’s OK to murder someone for expressing the wrong political views. Maybe you can find some humor in this.“

I can’t find anything funny in Kirk’s murder at all.; 12/27/25, 12:09 PM
Humperdink said...: The defenders of the fraud are swimming against the Somali tsumani.; 12/27/25, 12:15 PM
Original Mike said...: "Do you defenders of fraud ever consider just not pushing that rock up the mountain again?"

This suggests to me that they are paid shills ($9B can buy a lot of shills). How can any sincere observer defend this?; 12/27/25, 12:19 PM
Kirk Parker said...: What is with the share.google links, and why are people doing that instead of just directly posting the link they want us to see? they want us to see?; 12/27/25, 12:30 PM
Humperdink said...: RJ Ward, you have indicated you are no fan of the Gateway Pundit website. Fair enough. Why don’t you take a stab at Power Line? They are buried in the bowels of the Minneapolis political scene. They have been reporting extensively on the Somali situation for several years now. From your friend Ilhan’s questionable marriage to her brother, to her current husband’s rags to riches story. $0 to $30 mil in one year.

It appears to me the Somalis have been getting rich rather quickly in the U.S., but can’t seem to earn a nickel in their home country. Maybe you could answer that question.; 12/27/25, 1:27 PM
Hey Skipper said...: Kak: One further notes similarities between 1950s paleo-conservatives and their attachment to nationalist isolationism and budget fundamentalism on domestic programs with similar themes pervading today's Republican majorities who are strongly flavored with extremist beliefs.

What extremist beliefs? What makes them extremist? Which of them pervade today's Republican majority?

What you put up is less intelligent and incisive than dog barf.

RJW: Speaking of headlines, I’m reading where ICE is now arresting shoppers, looting their groceries and then splitting them up among themselves. I guess that’s pretty cool, huh?

I don't believe you. You are either easily gulled, or lying.

Not so cool.; 12/27/25, 1:38 PM
narciso said...: as inigo montoya said 'those words you are using don't mean what you think they do' it maybe wrapped in Corporate paper like Politico or Axios, but it doesn't matter,; 12/27/25, 1:57 PM
Achilles said...: Humperdink said...

It appears to me the Somalis have been getting rich rather quickly in the U.S., but can’t seem to earn a nickel in their home country. Maybe you could answer that question.

The fraud in Minnesota is approaching the entire GDP of the country of Somalia.; 12/27/25, 2:07 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Hump says; “ It appears to me the Somalis have been getting rich rather quickly in the U.S., but can’t seem to earn a nickel in their home country. Maybe you could answer that question.”

I can’t answer as to how the Somalis in general handle their finances and what “appears” to you or me is irrelevant. But here’s what matters and is the heart of my entire argument- if a crime has been committed, then the criminal or criminals need to be prosecuted. Investigate, gather evidence, prosecute, and if there’s a conviction, penalize that person or person.

But what Trump, GWP, PowerLine, and fire spewing influencers like Nick Shirley does is instill a fear or blame of an entire culture or racial group in order for you to assist them in what appears to be an ethnic cleansing.

We know that a huge bulk of immigrants arrested and deported had very minor offenses to no criminal record at all. This same playbook is being played out with the Somalis.; 12/27/25, 2:20 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Skipper, might try a quick search of “ ICE Agents Arrest Man on Christmas Eve—and Then Steal His Groceries”.; 12/27/25, 2:23 PM
Hey Skipper said...: RJW: But what Trump, GWP, PowerLine, and fire spewing influencers like Nick Shirley does is instill a fear or blame of an entire culture or racial group in order for you to assist them in what appears to be an ethnic cleansing.

Do you have any idea how many co-conspirators it took to pull this off?

We know that a huge bulk of immigrants arrested and deported had very minor offenses to no criminal record at all.

Aside from that niggling thing of being in the country illegally.; 12/27/25, 2:23 PM
Original Mike said...: Behold the illogic: The country has laws controlling who may be here, yet those who break those laws are not to be removed.; 12/27/25, 2:42 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: We’ll Skip, there’s a few other nigglings things to consider.

Around 1.6 million were here legally and playing by the rules until Trump abruptly revoked their legal status. Many showing up for their normal immigration updates don’t even know- off they go.

And then there’s unsupported children who have legal status until they’re 18 and are then required to fill out a new form. Problem is, from the moment they turn 18 until they update their status, they are technically here illegal. So when they show up on their 18th birthday for the form, off they go.

And then there’s the 47 year old mother of 3 who has renewed her visa regularly since her 18th birthday, car window busted, dragged through the glass, and off she goes.

These are the things GWP and Shirley aren’t telling you about.

What actual good is this doing?; 12/27/25, 2:44 PM
narciso said...: cleaver, removes all doubt, releasing the squirrels to roam; 12/27/25, 2:52 PM
Jon Ericson said...: So, it seems to me that a "cut" was harvested before or after the disbursement to the cooperative culture. How do you suppose the "cut" was distributed? 30% to the DFL, 10% to the DNC, 5% to those who "saw nothing"? And what was the mechanism?; 12/27/25, 3:03 PM
Hey Skipper said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 12/27/25, 3:36 PM
Hey Skipper said...: Around 1.6 million were here legally and playing by the rules until Trump abruptly revoked their legal status.

You left out a word: temporary. As in Temporary Protected Status. Temporary since 1991.

Perhaps being revoked too abruptly. But the election was a year ago, and no one should have been surprised that TPS would likely be revoked sooner rather than later.

The actual good this is doing is reducing the welfare drain and rampant fraud . What more do you need?

-And then there’s the 47 year old mother of 3 who has renewed her visa regularly since her 18th birthday, car window busted, dragged through the glass, and off she goes.

I don't believe you, and you continue to give no reason for being believed.

By the way, what are those extremist beliefs you assert (or rather AI asserted for you) pervade the GOP?

And while we are doing BTW's, you don't know how that Somalian welfare fraud was perpetrated, do you?

Skipper, might try a quick search of “ ICE Agents Arrest Man on Christmas Eve—and Then Steal His Groceries”.

I did. Embedding a link really isn't that hard.

Much easier than assuming your conclusion without proof. How do you know the ICE agents weren't inventorying the arrestees property, which is required following an arrest? I mean, other than taking the rabidly anti-Trump TNR at face value.

Especially considering how likely it is that the ICE agents would be stealing that stuff while being on video.; 12/27/25, 3:37 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Quite honestly Skipper, I really don’t care if you believe me or not. That really isn’t the issue but you did reveal one admission; “ Perhaps being revoked too abruptly. But the election was a year ago, and no one should have been surprised that TPS would likely be revoked sooner rather than later.”

So, we have welcomed for decades millions of immigrants temporarily legal status who’ve been allowed to renew that status every 4 to 6 years.

That a stroke of a pen beyond their control makes the a criminal is quite a stretch.

But if you want to insist that that logic is sound or “they should have known” is justified, it still doesn’t square with what we were sold and what many here want to claim- that they are the worst of the worst, rapist, fentanyl dealers, etc.

On that argument, we’ve been had.; 12/27/25, 3:57 PM
Big Mike said...: Ronald J. Ward said...

Quite honestly Skipper …

Sonny, there is absolutely nothing about you or any argument you choose to make that is in any way, shape, or form within miles of being honest.; 12/27/25, 4:12 PM
Hey Skipper said...: But if you want to insist that that logic is sound or “they should have known” is justified, it still doesn’t square with what we were sold and what many here want to claim- that they are the worst of the worst, rapist, fentanyl dealers, etc.

I'm sorry, I missed the part where we were sold that they were the worst of the worst, etc. And just like all of your assertions, you provide nothing in the way of evidence.

I am sold that graft is widespread among Minnesota's Somalian community. And it isn't the only place.

There are roughly 100,000 Somalians living in Minnesota, concentrated in the MSP/SP area.

The Somalian social services fraud looks like being at least $1B. That is $10,000 for every last one of them. How big a number does it need to be?

Temporary does not mean permanent. Ignoring that is what is illogical.; 12/27/25, 4:28 PM
Jim at said...: GATEWAY PUNDIT maga Bible :(

Nope.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm stopped visiting GW Pundit years ago. For all the things Jim Hoft may get correct, he gets just as many wrong. And never corrects his errors even when told he's wrong.; 12/27/25, 4:28 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: It’s only honestly to rabbit hole dwellers Mike if it’s consistent with rabbit hole worldview.; 12/27/25, 4:31 PM
narciso said...: depends on the source he relies on, can you say the same of any other corporate press outfit,; 12/27/25, 4:31 PM
Achilles said...: Ronald J. Ward said...

We know that a huge bulk of immigrants arrested and deported had very minor offenses to no criminal record at all. This same playbook is being played out with the Somalis.

If they are here illegally they have a criminal record by definition.

You are a retard.

Everyone here illegally gets deported now. All of the protected status bullshit gets revoked now.

All of the traitors like Chuck who find ways to bring in foreigners and then give them money they take from Americans should at minimum be deported as traitors.; 12/27/25, 4:32 PM
bagoh20 said...: "they are the worst of the worst, rapist, fentanyl dealers, etc."

Never heard that justification, and it's far from necessary.
You steal from taxpayers - they kick your ass out.
You help the theft happen or cover it up for votes - you go to jail.
Is there something in that you disagree with?; 12/27/25, 4:36 PM
Achilles said...: Ronald J. Ward said...

So, we have welcomed for decades millions of immigrants temporarily legal status who’ve been allowed to renew that status every 4 to 6 years.

That a stroke of a pen beyond their control makes the a criminal is quite a stretch.

Chuck is right. The Somalis were just here taking what was given to them. They just need to be sent back to whatever country they belong in.

We should focus on the traitors like Chuck who imported foreigners to come here and help Chuck steal money from the taxpayers of this country and attack ICE agents and burn American flags.; 12/27/25, 4:37 PM
Jon Ericson said...: "they are the worst of the worst, rapist, fentanyl dealers, etc."
Nope, just cooperative. I wonder who hatched this scheme? Surely not the bright, honest builders of Minnesota (and Massachusetts).; 12/27/25, 4:43 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Achillies said; “ If they are here illegally they have a criminal record by definition.”

I addressed that above. Either you missed it or you’re being intentionally stupid. And that’s being generous.

Bogoh said; “ You steal from taxpayers - they kick your ass out.
You help the theft happen or cover it up for votes - you go to jail.
Is there something in that you disagree with?”

No, not at all. I’m just saying, and it’s becoming more documented daily, that isn’t what’s happening.; 12/27/25, 4:44 PM
bagoh20 said...: "We know that a huge bulk of immigrants arrested and deported had very minor offenses to no criminal record at all."

So you find out that there is a stranger living in your basement, and he's been there for a month. Do you:
A) Kick him out.
B) Kick him out only if he has a criminal record, i.e. been caught.
C) Let him stay and pay him thousands in allowance if he asks for it.; 12/27/25, 4:44 PM
bagoh20 said...: "...becoming more documented daily..." = MSM is busy building a narrative as usual, which will eventually collapse as usual. This stuff is going on everywhere. Of course it 's happening in a concentrated group of people with no loyalty to the nation (actually hatred) who come from a long failed nation with a culture of theft and corruption in place of a government. They cannot be trusted in a trust culture, which is what we are trying to hang on to, and this kind of stuff is killing it.; 12/27/25, 4:50 PM
Big Mike said...: @Skipper, point of information, the level of fraud is close to — and may exceed— $9 billion — and that was before the discovery of state-funded daycare centers that are receiving funds to take care of zero children.; 12/27/25, 4:53 PM
bagoh20 said...: We are giving Minnesota Democrats the benefit of the doubt that they are smart enough to be part of it, and not just incredibly stupid.; 12/27/25, 4:53 PM
Jon Ericson said...: Well, Minnesota politicians, auditors, social workers, attorney generals etc. get/got to share the pirate booty, so now that they're under the lens, acting dumb might be the best defense.; 12/27/25, 5:04 PM
narciso said...: that they are merely bill macy and not peter stormare,; 12/27/25, 5:05 PM
Original Mike said...: "it’s becoming more documented daily, that isn’t what’s happening."

An absurd assertion.; 12/27/25, 5:12 PM
Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...: Another fact the leftist media loves to omit is that illegals with a criminal record in other countries will be targeted regardless of whether they have committed crimes in the US. This allows them to shriek about innocents being deported.; 12/27/25, 5:12 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: bagoh20 said...
"We know that a huge bulk of immigrants arrested and deported had very minor offenses to no criminal record at all."

So you find out that there is a stranger living in your basement, and he's been there for a month. Do you:
A) Kick him out.
B) Kick him out only if he has a criminal record, i.e. been caught.
C) Let him stay and pay him thousands in allowance if he asks for it.“

I guess you need to help me out with such a sophomoric and unrelated analogy because the fallacy you describe kinda goes off the rails of reasoning.

Let’s get back to a more accurate comparison. A stranger knocks on my door and asks if he can stay in my basement. I say okay but only for a month and then you have to check back with me and we’ll go from there.

Since I have such an extremely large basement, many others have been granted the same deal.

Those who comply with the terms and keep things clean and orderly stay. Those who don’t get kicked out.

Sixty seven years later, I get up at 3AM and call the police telling them I have rapist and murders in my basement eating my pets and want them out.; 12/27/25, 5:13 PM
narciso said...: so the kickback happened with the transactions, and back from the mother country,

by contrast you saw how much of a ruckuss they made with the frozen iraqi funds that were used as operational expenses at the start of the war,; 12/27/25, 5:18 PM
Jon Ericson said...: If one is determined to sow discord, one should pepper one's discord sowing with true stuff now and then, to appear, um, honest.; 12/27/25, 5:27 PM
bagoh20 said...: "I guess you need to help me out..."
I assumed as much, even with such a simple and directly analogous example.
Your critique about deporting refers to illegal aliens which by definition did not ask to come in. They snuck in against the law, just like my example.
Even in your tortured version, they do not check back in. Only in the low single digit percentages. They stay, they hide, they help themselves to your refrigerator, and use up your family's resources. Some of them rummage through your stuff and take what they want. A few may sneak into your daughter's room at night.
Your fantasy that a complete stranger would be a good uninvited roommate is ridiculous in it's naivete, as is open unvetted immigration like we had for the previous 4 years.; 12/27/25, 5:36 PM
Eva Marie said...: “A stranger knocks on my door and asks if he can stay in my basement.”
No, the strangers did not ask. They trespassed using your example.; 12/27/25, 5:39 PM
Mason G said...: "with a culture of theft and corruption"

It's certainly no surprise that Democrats naturally support them.; 12/27/25, 5:43 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Bagoh, if they snuck in as you say, why is there no systematic means of investigating who and where they are?

If who is being deported are actually undocumented, how did they know?

If they are not, as you say, checking back in, why are so many being arrested as they are checking back in?

No mention of unaccompanied children being arrested in that 18 year old limbo timeframe of paperwork? No surprise.

If the target is to deport criminals who Biden allegedly allowed into the country, why have such a high percentage been people who have been here for years?

How do you account for or justify 1.6 million people having their legal status revoked by a wide brush signing?

And seriously, how do you account for a masked police force operating without warrants and scooping up American citizens in the process?

It’s not about removing criminals. It’s an ethical cleansing.

That’s what energizes the Basket but not something they want to admit.; 12/27/25, 6:12 PM
Eva Marie said...: “How do you account for or justify 1.6 million people having their legal status revoked”
Their legal status was that they were here illegally.; 12/27/25, 6:17 PM
narciso said...: Because laws havent enforced in a bakers dozen years or so; 12/27/25, 6:33 PM
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Big Mike said...: @Tonald, you do get that we’re laughing at you, right?; 12/27/25, 6:35 PM
narciso said...: Cleaver doesnt get it, even if they handed it to him; 12/27/25, 6:37 PM
Ronald J. Ward said...: Just a few thoughts on today’s news for those who don’t like to stray from the rabbit hole;

Bankruptcies soar as companies grapple with inflation, tariffs; Businesses in vulnerable sectors found themselves caught between rising tariffs and beleaguered consumers. — Corporate bankruptcies surged in 2025, rivaling levels not seen since the immediate aftermath of the Great Recession …
——Washington Post

As Americans tire of Donald Trump, a Democratic midterm ‘tsunami’ could sweep the GOP out of power
—- The Gaudian

Fear and confusion in Nigerian village hit in US strike, as locals say no history of ISIS in area.
——CNN

I Was the President’s Pardon Attorney. He’s Making a Mockery of the Pardon Process
——Liz Oyer

25 Worst Villains of the Trump Admin
The worst of the worst, ranked 1-25.
—-Mediasplus

Iran says it is in full-scale war with US, Israel and Europe
—- Iran International; 12/27/25, 6:57 PM
bagoh20 said...: There you go. Enjoy that smorgasbord of bullshit to sooth your TDS until tomorrow when it all evaporates again as usual. Then order another round.; 12/27/25, 8:12 PM