From the front page of the New York Times.That article has 4 authors. 4 authors in search of a President.
1. An excellent joke from a big donor named John Morgan: “The Biden staff, they ruined any type of good library for him. He’ll be lucky to have a bookmobile.”
2. They might need to repurpose "pre-existing Biden institutions at the University of Delaware."
3. Bill Clinton is out there seeking donations for an expansion to his presidential library, and he's doing a better job of maintaining relationships with donors.
4. Obama's presidential library is ridiculous. It's a "still-unfinished 'presidential center' in Chicago — not technically a presidential library,' since it will not include hard copies of White House documents — will include a vegetable garden, a branch of the city library, and a basketball gym." Let me add on to that and say it suggests that Biden's best move should be to end to the grandiose bullshit that is the "presidential library"?
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That’s more than I expected. lol
All they need is a room to house the autopen. That would be a sufficient legacy.
And a garage...to display historic documents.
Yeah, well that loser Trump only raised $5B for his dumb balls. Ballroom.
How about a bookmobile?
@Bob B: They need to build a museum for the autopen team, Party policy committee, and the dark money donors. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Label each room in the museum "Unmasked."
If judged by a reasonable standard for literal leadership, Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever by a wide margin. Democrats learned precisely the wrong lessons from Trump's ignorance, errors, and character flaws.
The Dems could show they are the Party of the Future by creating the first virtual Presidential library. And just like they crowdsourced the work of identifying all the J6ers, they could crowdsource the work of correcting the transcriptions of scanned documents. It would be an incredible Newspeak-like triumph for an old-fashioned machine politician who never could program his VCR. CC, JSM
They had a nice pledge from Hunter's old associates but they recently suffered some unexpected losses at sea and are unable to follow through on the donation.
“The election saw the highest voter turnout by percentage since 1900. Biden received more than 81 million votes, the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in U.S. history.“
What happened?
Trump can expand his library to add a small Biden wing. It can display documents about the Democrats’ efforts to steal elections, hang out with Jeffrey Epstein and keep him off the ballot. Visitors can see a replica of a gender-neutral bathroom as the Left will likely try to claim in the future that trans people were never actually a thing.
Perhaps Hunter can donate some of his paintings to fund the library.
Last night on Netflix the preview of the Seymour Hersh biopic popped up. We have lived in a time where many of the largest and most consequential scandals in US history have overlapped but there’s not a single investigative reporter present to expose them, foreign or domestic. there’s nibbling around the edges from Ngo and Hemingway and Attkisson but they never pull back the curtain on the bigger picture. Too soon perhaps…
He can use the bribe money he stole from Ukraine to build his own disastrous Presidential library. Nobody cares.
Bob B said...
“All they need is a room to house the autopen. That would be a sufficient legacy.”
Put it in a room in the Obama library. Biden’s term was really Obama’s third, anyway.
If Obama can have a presidential center with a basketball gym then there's every reason why Biden's presidential library should have a swimming pool.
$11 million should be enough to open the Biden Bodega in order to commemorate his most significant and lasting achievement. A taco truck at the curb would be nice touch.
- Krumhorn
Please build the fucking thing. I need a place to piss.
Since, you know, Hillary's grave isn't finished yet.
Looks like it's Presential Condo time. No joke.
Isn't his Presidential library in the garage, next to all the other classified documents he and Hunter stole?
Why aren't our proud Leftists here stepping up? I'm sure any contribution is appreciated.
Obama raised enough to build a Soviet-looking memorial to himself, plus 3 other massive homes in very exclusive areas around the country.
Biden couldn't raise enough to open an ice cream parlor.
Don't feel bad for him. He already made millions from the Russians, Ukrainians, and others over the years.
All Biden needs is a fucking shoebox.
Why does every former president need a library?why does any? He can slap his name on the side of any building and there are plenty of more useful things he could build with that money.
Well the proposed design is going to be expensive:
- Upholstery-pattern mosaic floor
- Several long low white granular-finish buildings
- Oldenburg-style giant razor blade and straw sticking up from it all
CC, JSM
And a Little Mermaid-style statue, except it's an underage Chinese girl on her knees. CC, JSM
Well they pretended he was a President for four years see john gill while a gang looted the country
NYeT is searching for a precedent to rationalize publication.
They jusy have to transfer the money from the biden center at penn
Trump is aborting capital flows to Democratic special and peculiar interests, and raising risk for investors, foreign and domestic. Here's to sustainable progress.
LOTS of people would be interested in contributing..
IF it would actuarately address issues.
Issues like:
Biden marrying for money..
Biden sleeping with their babysitter..
Biden "driving" his wife to suicide..
Biden marrying said babysitter..
Biden FORCING his daughter to shower with him into her teens..
Biden's sons being cokeheads..
Biden's sons sleeping with their stepmom..
Biden's son sleeping with his sister inlaw..
Biden's son gathering MILLIONS for "the old man"
Biden losing Afghanistan..
Biden importing entire armies to invade the USA.
’How about a bookmobile?’
We have a winner!!
I don't think a donation to the Biden Library will buy you much influence in Washington. Clinton and Obama are still brand names, however. I checked with ChatGpt. The Clinton Foundation's revenues have fallen from over 200 million in 2016 to just 20 million or so nowadays That's a steep decline, but they still bring money in......The various charities associated with the Carter name are still going strong so good for Jimmy. His charities might actually be doing something other than money laundering and influence peddling.
“Four authors in search of a President” . . . Sounds absurdist to me. Meanwhile, Harris is proudly looking forward to a marble bust which is the Veep version of a Participation Trophy. (A fitting capstone for her career.)
The donations went up Hunter's nose.
That article has 4 authors.
It was like carrying a stretcher.
Surprised Zelenskyy didn't kick back a few billion.
11 million should certainly buy them an old Burger King in downtown Wilmington. May not be in the best part of town, but once they get it going, you'll see; they'll end up attracting a much better class of hooker to the nearby street corners.
If somebody is interested they could just come dig through the boxes in his garage.
Why does he need more than $11 million? How much does a movie set façade cost?
Josef Biden: He had a mixed up, muddled up, shook up mind.
Midnight basketball is about the size of Obama's presidency. Keep the black people off the streets.
“Bookmobile”? How ‘bout a Weinermobile.
How much does it cost for a closet or garage shelves? That’s what Biden used before.
Or an ice cream truck with a little jingle playing from an old loudspeaker on the roof.
Bob Boyd said...
That article has 4 authors.
It was like carrying a stretcher.
Should have added 2 more and made it a casket.
Maybe “alligator arms” is what Biden meant when he said, “the United States of Amerigotit”?
If Obama's building will not have White House documents where will they be stored?
Obama's so-called presidential library is a $1 billion indoor basketball gym with some attached conference rooms, built on city-provided site within a public park, local streets rerouted and significant new infrastructure provided by city taxpayers too. Talk about boondoggle from the capital city of boondoggledom.
Biden probably didn't crack a book during his presidential term, and ghostwriters scripted his cue-cards, teleprompter speeches, and vanity books. Maybe he can fund-raise for a Pritzker Family-sponsored fancy Hyatt Vi senior housing product, as a Delaware oceanfront assisted-living facility for former presidents, and name it The President's Library.
Illinois pudgy governor Pritzker, of billionaire Pritzker Family notoriety, is only Democrat who can self-finance his entire next presidential campaign. Why should Pritzker Family continue to subsidize Democratic National Party when it can simply seize control altogether? In Wisconsin, Soros is #1 largest donator to Wisconsin State Democratic Party; JB Pritzker is #2. Let that sink in Wisconsinites!
It would appear there is little honor among.... politicians who win elections with 81 million votes. The article should really have 2 more authors, I hear it's customary to have 6 in these circumstances. And I think it fitting that the Biden Presidential Center be placed in downtown Baltimore.
Admission of auto-pen abuse.
Maybe if all 81 million of his voters (snicker) sent him a couple of bucks, he could afford to build something as ugly as Obama’s edifice.
The Trump library will be literally and figuratively comedy gold. Hopefully he will select a site that requires the demolition of a historic building.
"Illinois pudgy governor Pritzker"
Try fat fuck.
The Dem primary process last time was disturbingly similar to that "Bring out your dead" skit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the old man doesn't want to go on the cart.
And was that Trump riding by at the end?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEmfsmasjVA
I can’t see the story so ai din’t steal but bookmobile was obvious…
47 AM
Bob Boyd said...
That article has 4 authors.
It was like carrying a stretcher.
They’ll need six authors for Biden’s obituary, then.
Those chimps wont right hamlet on their own
Trump should just rename the Library of Congress the Trump Library.
Regarding Biden and the border: A Juan vision of failure, perhaps.
I am Laslo.
A small library for a small president.
Steve said...
If Obama's building will not have White House documents where will they be stored?
It will have the Obama Administration archives, but NARA will not manage or have much access to them like with other Presidential libraries.
Maybe he can invite Drowsy Don over for a sleepover?
I like the idea of ending this madness. Obama's library is a gigantic eyesore that Chicago deserves.
Indeed, virtual, online tributes make much more sense.
They should build it out of parts from decommissioned wind farms.
Soros can fund it.
These presidential libraries are akin to Oligarchy.
Off site server need ethan hunt to access it
Trump’s will take the shape of a circus tent. It will be in honor of his clown show of a presidency.
Seriously, what presidential material would go in a Biden library that was worth anyone’s time to go and see? It would just be an empty building.
On the other hand, let MAGA donors fund the filling of the “library”… I’m sure they could come up with some very interesting exhibits that a lot of dupes would be completely ignorant of.
All joking aside, the Biden Administration's legacy is one of complete disaster both at home and abroad, almost all of which could have and should have been avoided.
That history needs to written and learned from, not swept under a rug.
They can just tell him it’s built and the most popular library ever. Show him a model of the Library of Congress
The Biden Library might end up being a Kindle from 2015 stored in a closet at the University of Delaware.
Bob Boyd said...
“All joking aside, the Biden Administration's legacy is one of complete disaster both at home and abroad, almost all of which could have and should have been avoided.
That history needs to written and learned from, not swept under a rug.”
Wonder how historians will look back at the Trump years?
Oh wait, they already have.
Since China funded Biden’s Penn Center, perhaps they can step up again for his Autopen Center.
Our lefties are missing some easy Trump layups. C’mon, man!!
I never watched Wanda Vision.
"Joe Biden's top official for Europe Amanda Sloat casually admitting explosive facts that the Blob not only suppressed for years, but you would have been accused of being a Putin apologist if you ever raised."
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1999686434165522805
In 1994 movie "Guarding Tess" Shirley McLaine, the president's widow, makes a compelling case Presidential libraries should be paired with existing historic buildings to preserve them as well as to preserve the president's legacy. I thought it was a concept to consider 30 years ago and even more so now. Years ago I read that Clinton's library includes some spacious living space for him and anyone he chooses to entertain there. If true, I would assume other presidential libraries include something similar.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Wonder how historians will look back at the Trump years?
Oh wait, they already have.
Do you think Chuck realizes how stupid this makes him look?
That isn't how history works you fucking retard.
The most appropriate thing would be to rent space in Obama’s library.
That article has 4 authors. 4 authors in search of a President.
ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini and Copilot?
We should donate money to the F Burisma Joe middle finger memorial.
Justabill said...
The most appropriate thing would be to rent space in Obama’s library.
The problem is that people might actually visit it then.
The place is in Chicago. You trying to get them shot?
Ron Ward - D cultist. Fake leftist/soviet "historians"- tabloid Maddow style - do not count as experts.
He doesn't need a library. Just a room. With an autopen in it.
Fahrenhold who got the pulitzer for lawfare against trump before 2016
Justabill said...
The most appropriate thing would be to rent space in Obama’s library.
My bad, I thought you were talking about Trump.
Your point is well taken.
Biden wouldn't actually pay rent though. It would be more like adding a third addition.
The others were russian hoaxers and promoters of other proscriptions
Sponsored by the middle kingdom as in kind contribution
NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
Steve said...
If Obama's building will not have White House documents where will they be stored?
It will have the Obama Administration archives, but NARA will not manage or have much access to them like with other Presidential libraries.
Well that's certainly interesting. Four or so years ago we were all told that NARA had absolute control over all Presidential documents from any President without question and could send the FBI on a panty raid to get them back.
They lied as with all things
I once viewed the Coolidge presidential library. Silent Cal was a Republican, and the library is located in Northampton, MA. If you know anything about the area, Northampton is basically Seattle East. I was surprised it hadn't been burned down.
My grandson has been working on the construction of the Teddy Roosevelt Library in Medora, ND. set to open July 4, 2026. It only took Teddy 117 years or near that for his library.
Joe Bar: libs don’t have enough historical education to know who Coolidge was. It was more than 15 minutes ago, after all. CC, JSM
Our lamest POTUS, Jerry Ford, has a library. He was never elected to VP or President, did little of importance, and was only in office for 2 or so years.
So, Biden should build a Jerry Ford- type library. Perhaps the auto-pen can be made a permenant exhibit. Along with pictures of the dead Afghan family mistakenly drone-striked, and illegals streaming accross an open border.
Didn't the Clinton library and foundation building cost a zillion dollars with everyone wondering where the money went to?
I think Biden's problem he's not Clinton. Rich people gave $$ to Clinton fondation because "the plan" was to make Hillary POTUS. Obama got money because even as ex-POTUS, he was pulling strings in DC. Biden? He was so useless he couldn't even run for re-election. The big donors are upset they had to stop him and run "Kam".
And a lot of the Money for Clinton and Obama libraries was for "Services Rendered". Biden however, had already been paid off with Ukraine and Chinese money while he was an ex-VP.
They only know dorothy parkers jibes
Look how modest the Nixon Presidential Library is and then tell me Biden deserves something even that nice.
I grew up in the Chicago area and loved Jackson Park (and the Museum of Science and Industry). Obama's library is a criminal defacing of a beautiful site.
As for Trump's future library, there should be a number of prime locations in Washington once many of the federal office buildings, like the Department of Education, are emptied and leveled.
Surprised to learn there's a H.W. Bush library. Seems rather modest, which is appropriate.
I am actually waiting for the Netlix logo to be painted on the Obama Library.
Lets not forget the income that comes in from the massage parlor portion of the Clinton library.
A double wide in Western Mass with multiple cash station which only take cash deposits?
I used western Mass because land in Rhode Island is too expensive, rumor has it that Hunter went for the Mass location, Boston area strip clubs have his favor.
He can probably get an empty govt building on the cheap from GSA.
The basement from which Biden campaigned in 2020 would make the perfect venue for the Biden Presidential Library.
Why couldn’t they just use Biden’e garage just the way it is — after authorized personnel clear out the boxes full of classified papers, of course? Or would that merely result in a clean garage?
Burisma Joe(D) - Democrat - pardoned himself and his family- and the cult-left are OK with it.
meanwhile -Joe biden is the most corrupt fake installed prez in US history. He is a criminal. He should be indicted and placed in prison.,
Biden & Co... who would donate to that POS....
Non-citizens Social Security numbers issued during the Biden Administration:
2021: 270,425
2022: 590,193
2023: 964,163
2024: 2,095,247
And we are meant to believe that Biden got more votes than any other presidential candidate in history.
Throughout human history we've had this system of dynasty and in democracy electing the next person in line. It seems like an obviously flawed system compared to merit. Someone with Biden's condition and history never should have been taken seriously, let alone nominated and elected. I would not have voted for any of them, but some of the other Dem candidates were clearly more capable of doing the job. They still would have needed to break all the election standards like they did, but they would likely still have the White House now, which would suck, so I thank Biden and the Democrats for their foolishness. The Biden library only needs two colossal statues of Trump on each side of a bookmobile sitting up on blocks.
" Obama's library is a criminal defacing of a beautiful site."
Obama's comment of "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f-k things up." was true, but also projection.
The people who enabled Biden's success now want him ignored and forgotten. Can we blame them for this?
See how they failed? It was a four year recess from life after the COVID wars. It was the chance they needed to eliminate Trump while they could. They weren't ruthless or smart enough to even do that. They just pretended they were while enjoying the perks of life as the CinC and extended weekends at the beach.
I couldn't see that at the time, but the people who won in 2024 could. It was clear as country water. And then they wouldn't go away. Enough of them. Not even a cute little free library.
Achilles said: “ That isn't how history works you fucking retard.”
Most every credible historian study ranked Biden at around the 19th mark. They ranked Trump as 2nd all time worst and the only reason he wasn’t dead last was because he scored exceptionally well in his “ability of persuasion”, which by the way, was a similar skillset of Jim Jones and Adolph Hitler.
Old & Slow @ 10:30, when people become offended of being referred to as a MAGA cultist or ask why they are called that, my first question is; “was the 2020 election rigged” because if the answer is yes, they just might be a cultist.
I cannot not understand why any person would donate so much as a f****** dime to a worthless undertaking as this. And screw these so-called "presidential libraries" to begin with. Presidential papers and such should be gathered up and kept by the Library of Congress where it's able to be preserved, compiled and made available for scholars to research, or in FJB's case, for DoJ special counsel lawyers examination as well.
"..Most every credible historian study ranked Biden at around the 19th mark.."
WOW! that's just incredible! I mean LITERALLY incredible.
Drug Cartels also benefited greatly from Biden’s policies. They should be a huge potential funding source.
Actually Gilbar, the Presidential Greatness Project put Biden in the top third, 14th best.,
FDR's presidential library seemed pretty modest. They didn't want it to overshadow his house. I forgot about the wings which provided more space, but compared to later monstrosities, Roosevelt's (and Hoover's) presidential libraries probably didn't seem outrageous to people. The pomposity may have started with humble Harry Truman. The already large facade of his library is flanked by two massive wings.
My solution:
1) Confiscate all $ from all the Biden relatives who clearly got payments from corruption and pay-to-play. Combine these millions (and other grifted Biden millions from the Caymans) with the $11 million and build a new wing at Leavenworth called The Biden Presidential Library. Specifically to hold corrupt politicians.
2) In return for prime Lakefront parkland, Obama promised an Endowment to pay upkeep and maintenance on the Obama Library so it would never become a burden on Chicago taxpayers. To nobody's surprise he has not done that as construction costs soared to 3x initial estimates and quality scandals blossomed. Chicago should not grant an occupancy permit until Obama fulfills his pledge. He needs about $400-500 million is the estimate.
Presidential Rankings: Another Symptom of the University Virus
https://i2i.org/presidential-rankings-another-symptom-of-the-university-virus/
Rating the Presidents
https://www.cato.org/blog/rating-presidents#:~:text=By%20David%20Boaz,2018%20to%2016th%20this%20year.
“ Let me add on to that and say it suggests that Biden's best move should be to end to the grandiose bullshit that is the "presidential library"?”
Nonsense. I’m really looking forward to the Trump Library. Just imagine how super stupendous that will be!
And Biden can make do with one of those little “free library” boxes some people put in front of their houses.
Most every credible historian study ranked Biden at around the 19th mark.
And just like that the historians lost all their credibility.
Joseph F. Biden is the all time worst President, moving James Buchanan up to second-worst and James (“Jimmy”) Carter up to third-worst. LBJ is sixth worst or seventh, depending on how one evaluates antebellum presidents like Fillmore and Pierce. Herbert Hoover is the only Republican in the bottom ten.
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and James Blaine are the most personally corrupt candidates in the history of the Republic, though it’s fair to say that many presidents, while honest enough themselves, ran corrupt administrations: Grant, Harding, Buchanan, and Truman being among the worst. Biden may join them as we unwrap more about his presidency.
I second Big Mike’s argument, although I was not around during the Buchanan presidency like Mike was.
I did vote for Carter in 1976.
With hindsight hw bush doesnt come off so nice
Our pipelines was held ransom our marines slaughtered we were scrounging for baby formula
Lot of bark there Mike but your argument has no teeth. Simply declaring historians “non-credible”, you know, “just like that” because you don’t like their conclusions isn’t an argument—it’s a rejection of evidence-based analysis altogether.
Presidential rankings aren’t about personal preference; they’re based on criteria like economic performance, legislative effectiveness, crisis leadership, institutional stability, and long-term national impact. You’ve offered none of those—only assertions.
You’re also blending categories. Hillary Clinton and James Blaine were never presidents, so invoking them in a discussion of presidential performance only weakens your case.
Finally, placing Biden below Buchanan or Andrew Johnson requires showing that his presidency caused damage on the scale of secession or the deliberate sabotage of Reconstruction. That’s a pretty high bar, and simply saying “historians are wrong” doesn’t clear it.
Lots of yap but no bite.
The clintons helped loot nigeria with mark riches crew tbe bidens similarly with input from kazakhstan romania ukraine et al previously from big saudi players
“Why does every former president need a library?why does any?”
I think that we found out why, with the FL DOJ persecution of Trump by Smith and Bratt. Every other living former President has a “library” which has legal control, through NAR, of the President’s official records, and many of his personal papers and mementos. The former President, and his people, then has years, even decades, to go through them, determining which is which. Since NAR has legal control the documents, there is no question about the former President having documents that he shouldn’t. But it’s safe, for the former President, since he still has the discretion of determining which is which, and until he does that, no one else gets to access the documents. And he can take decades to do that (as will likely be the case with Obama, while it is likely that Biden will never get any of it done).
Many of the historians havent done the diligent work of a irvin gellmann with nixon, they just replicated the slanders that others put forth
I'm not GOP, but think the RN and RR libraries benefit SoCal. Particularly like RN, childhood home and much closer to me.
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“ Achilles said: “ That isn't how history works you fucking retard.”
“Most every credible historian study ranked Biden at around the 19th mark. They ranked Trump as 2nd all time worst and the only reason he wasn’t dead last was because he scored exceptionally well in his “ability of persuasion”, which by the way, was a similar skillset of Jim Jones and Adolph Hitler.”
Yeh, a bunch of left wing, TDS addled, academics, who self selected themselves as “experts”. The Abrahamic Accords, alone, should have vaulted Trump 45 into the top half of the list. Biden is the one who deserves to be down near the bottom:
- 10-20 millions of illegals welcomed into the country, many having been criminals in their former lives, bringing their criminality and violence with them. Most were illiterate peasants, possessing few marketable skills in a high tech economy, and, thus swamping our social services, and living on government handouts.
- Cabinet was filled with DEI incompetents, who couldn’t get anything useful done. Gay male Transportation head took maternity leave instead of addressing the LA and Long Beach port problems. FEMA head refused to aid Republican voters. Black SecDef destroyed effectiveness of our military through DEI, and gave the Taliban tens of $billions$ in US arms by giving up Bagram before leaving Afghanistan.
- Foreign policy was just as disastrous. The Biden family stayed bought, from being bribed by the Ukrainians during the Obama Administration, and propped them up throughout his term, with tens of $billions$ in military aid.
- Ushered in the worst inflation of the last 40+ years through enactment of the Inflation Reduction Act, which financed hundreds of $billions$ to leftist politicians and political constituencies through government borrowing.
- Shut down the economy through the COVID-19 shutdown, then used the money that was supposed to go to ameliorate its effects to further support leftist states and municipalities, being bankrupted by the Administration’s welcoming in the 10-20 million illegals.
- Etc.
Trump is going to have gorgeous huge library.
I probably said it before, but much would have been forgiven if Obama had decided to rebuild part of the 1893 World's Fair in situ, rather than that horrendous giant blockhouse.
There is a Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum too. It's not part of the National Archives. Is it serious or a tourist trap and fund-raising grift? Its connections with Illinois state government, don't encourage confidence. Much controversy over whether its stovepipe hat was really Lincoln's.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Actually Gilbar, the Presidential Greatness Project put Biden in the top third, 14th best.,
That is because it was full of retards like you.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Achilles said: “ That isn't how history works you fucking retard.”
Most every credible historian study ranked Biden at around the 19th mark. They ranked Trump as 2nd all time worst and the only reason he wasn’t dead last was because he scored exceptionally well in his “ability of persuasion”, which by the way, was a similar skillset of Jim Jones and Adolph Hitler.
I just want to post this here in case he deletes it.
We need to hold on to this one for Chuck posterity. He really is one of the dumbest people on the planet.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/black-box-saturday-december-13-2025
The border and Afghan debacles easily place Biden as worst President in modern history. Carter must have been consoled in his dying days knowing that someone had finally surpassed him in Presidential ineptitude.
Bruce, I honestly don’t know the point of Achillies rebuttals other than to copy and paste and the reply; “you’re stupid” or “you’re a retard” as if that somehow disqualifies the argument.
There’s a few things needed to be separated from your : evidence from assertion, policy disagreement from historical ranking, and rhetoric from reality.
First, dismissing historians as “self-selected, TDS-addled academics” isn’t rebuttal—it’s rejection of expertise because it conflicts with what you’ve obviously been told to conclude. If historians are invalid, then presidential rankings as a concept are invalid, and with any rational reasoning, that would include any ranking you prefer.
Second, the Abraham Accords were a meaningful diplomatic achievement, but no serious historian evaluates a presidency on a single accomplishment. If that were the standard, Carter’s Camp David Accords would vault him into the top tier, which even his admirers don’t argue.
On immigration, there is no evidence of “10–20 million criminals” being welcomed into the country. Net migration surged post-COVID across all Western nations, driven by pent-up movement and global instability. Crime rates among immigrants—documented repeatedly—are lower than native-born citizens, not higher. Asserting criminality without data doesn’t make it true.
Calling cabinet officials “DEI incompetents” substitutes identity grievance for performance analysis. Pete Buttigieg did not “cause” port congestion—that crisis began under Trump during COVID and eased as supply chains normalized.
The claim that FEMA “refused aid to Republican voters” is demonstrably false and contradicted by funding allocations and disaster response timelines.
The Afghanistan withdrawal followed the Trump-negotiated Doha Agreement That is what set the timeline and excluded the Afghan government. Biden executed it poorly—but pretending it was conceived or structured by his administration rewrites history.
The equipment left behind was largely disabled or non-transferable, and the oft-quoted “tens of billions” figure conflates original procurement value with usable assets.
Allegations of Biden family bribery have been investigated for years without substantiating evidence of policy decisions being altered in exchange for money. Supporting Ukraine has been bipartisan U.S. policy since 2014, including under Trump.
Inflation spiked globally after COVID due to supply shocks, energy disruption, and pent-up demand. The U.S. was not unique, and inflation peaked before most IRA spending occurred. Any serious analysis attributes inflation primarily to pandemic-era disruptions and stimulus enacted under both administrations.
The initial economic shutdown occurred under Trump, with bipartisan congressional support. Relief funds were distributed through formulas approved by Congress, not as ideological favors to “leftist states.”
Finally, none of this proves Biden was a great president—but calling him the “worst in history” requires showing damage on the scale of Buchanan enabling secession or Andrew Johnson sabotaging Reconstruction. That case has not been made here.
If the goal is historical analysis, it requires standards, data, and proportionality—not insults, exaggerations, or relying on propaganda talking points.
whoever ran the autopen looted the treasury, the transportation budget, shut down the pipelines, perhaps a inkind contribution for Gazprom, offered huge grift that benefited China, gave hundred of billions to Ukraine, to little benefit,
Ronald J. Ward said...
Bruce, I honestly don’t know the point of Achillies rebuttals other than to copy and paste and the reply; “you’re stupid” or “you’re a retard” as if that somehow disqualifies the argument.
Nobody is expecting someone as stupid as you to understand.
Blaming Democrat policies on Trump and pretending things like the Abrahama Accords don't count is just a part of it.
You just keep posting the same stupid lies. Only a fucking idiot would post that Trump was the reason the Afghan pullout was so botched.
You are just dumb and dishonest. Never change Chuck. Nobody has made more Trump voters than you.
but blaming biden, this corrupt shell of a man, who according to some accounts, owes his first election to corrupt teamsters, who served the soviets in his early instances he opposed the pipeline,
, and partnered with the worst segregationists, was not in control of much, but the gang that ruled in his name,
Achilles, your response is pure ad hominem plus deflection. There’s no new evidence, no engagement with facts—just insults and a reframing attempt. When you have to lean entirely on insults, it usually means you’ve run out of substance.
No one said the Abraham Accords “don’t count.” They do. They’re routinely acknowledged as a legitimate diplomatic achievement. What you still haven’t shown is why one accomplishment overrides an entire presidency, any more than Camp David alone makes Carter a top-tier president.
The timeline, framework, and troop drawdown were set by the Doha Agreement, negotiated and signed under Trump. That’s not opinion—it’s documented fact. Biden owned the execution, and he deserves criticism for it, but pretending Trump had no role is historically dishonest.
Calling facts “lies” doesn’t refute them. Calling people stupid doesn’t strengthen your argument. And declaring victory by insult sure doesn’t persuade anyone reading along unless they too have overindulged in the kool-ade.
If you want to argue policy, make the case. If all you have left is name-calling, that tells the audience everything it needs to know.
20 years of war, ended not with a whimper, but blood and bones and fire, and the same reporters that spoke breathlessly about 'afghan bounties' (they probably got a pulitzer) were silent,
Hard to believe that they think that half of the American people are stupid enough to believe it was all Biden's fault when he could barely fog a mirror. But I guess they know their audience.
Lots of yap but no bite.
Speaking of ... do you ever shut up?
An autopen would be the big exhibit.
When was Joe Biden President? Does he know about this?
Biden made screwing up look easy. Was it skill, talent or practice?
Achilles @ 1:39
He really thinks he's the smartest person in the room.
bagoh20 said...
"Biden made screwing up look easy."
He was born with it.
Poor Biden. Always some technically or unfortunate situation to blame for his many failures. The most powerful man on earth was nothing but a helpless victim to circumstance.
Bill Clinton is maintaining relationships with donors? Hide the women and put a hand on your wallets!
Zero donors, but 82 million votes. R i g h t .
By never falling asleep in public, Joe Biden spread effete elitist expectations about the workplace. Donald Trump is showing real men how it’s done.
Obama was supposedly going to put his papers online only. It's been over 8 years since he left office. Has anyone heard anything?
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