I'm reading this in the Harvard Crimson: "As Summers Sought Clandestine Relationship With Woman He Called a Mentee, Epstein Was His 'Wing Man'/When former Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers was pursuing a romantic relationship with a woman he described as a mentee, he turned to a longtime associate for guidance: convicted sex offender Jeffrey E. Epstein."
1. "Peril" was the code name for the woman the 2 men were discussing. If the Crimson has correctly identified her, she was already a tenured professor — at the London School of Economics.
2. Stop and think about what Summers was saying when he wrote that his "best shot" was for her to find him "invaluable and interesting" and to realize that "she can’t have it without romance / sex." I would interpret that to mean that he wanted sex (and romance) from her that he knew she didn't want. He just hoped she'd give it in order to receive professional and social benefits from him. No one should want sex that the other person does not want. It doesn't matter that you conceive of it as an even exchange because you are giving other benefits.
3. Imagine asking Jeffrey Epstein for advice on how to handle it!
4. I wonder how "peril" feels about all this — then and now.
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Romancing the fairer sex.
I didnt remember that one
@iman Ask your mom.
we can conclude that whatever he had to offer was on the wrong side of her indifference curve.
Heh.
RCOCEAN II said...
Peril = Yellow Peril = funny.
Unsurprisingly, the wokesters are NOT amused at Epstein's nickname for Larry Summer's Chinese obsession!
It's "racist!"
-- https://www.thedailybeast.com/harvards-slutty-professor-used-vile-slur-in-epstein-emails/
I wonder what Mrs. Summers thinks about it.
The basilisk still finds the stupidest take bar none
I’d ask her if I could, DeeDee@4:21pm, but she’s been gone for 17 years now. However, knowing your proclivities, I will check with the cemetery where she was buried to make sure that ground remains undisturbed.
If unattractive Summers needed advice, he shoulda contacted Kissinger.
Kissinger was romantically linked to Shirley MacLaine, Marlo Thomas, Candice Bergen and Liv Ullmann. He also was photographed at the sides of Raquel Welch, Elizabeth Taylor and Liza Minnelli. There were countless more who did not have recognizable faces or names. “He had a weakness for young, beautiful lesser-known types,” writes Walter Isaacson in Kissinger: A Biography. “[They] offered, at least in the abstract, the aura of something more illicit.” They included Judith Brown, star of the X-rated 1970 Danish film Threesome, and Lada Edmund, a stuntwoman specializing in motorcycle and car crashes who worked on Smokey and the Bandit and with Evil Knievel.
But it was with Jill St. John, who as Tiffany Case in 1971’s Diamonds Are Forever was the first American Bond girl, that Kissinger had the most lasting and significant relationship.
Larry shoulda asked Henry for advice
"Kissinger was romantically linked to Shirley MacLaine, Marlo Thomas, Candice Bergen and Liv Ullmann. He also was photographed at the sides of Raquel Welch, Elizabeth Taylor and Liza Minnelli. There were countless more who did not have recognizable faces or names. “He had a weakness for young, beautiful lesser-known types,” writes Walter Isaacson in Kissinger: A Biography. “[They] offered, at least in the abstract, the aura of something more illicit.” They included Judith Brown, star of the X-rated 1970 Danish film Threesome, and Lada Edmund, a stuntwoman specializing in motorcycle and car crashes who worked on Smokey and the Bandit and with Evil Knievel.
But it was with Jill St. John, who as Tiffany Case in 1971’s Diamonds Are Forever was the first American Bond girl, that Kissinger had the most lasting and significant relationship.
Ann Althouse said...
"Ann’s find your own level theory doesn’t work because men and women have different ideas about levels."
Just keep descending until you find success: that's your level.
Women control access to Sex.
Men control access to relationships.
Heartless Aztec said...
Unasked for advice to Mr Summers: a woman knows in 30 seconds (or less) if she'll sleep with a man. If you're not picking up positive vibrations by meeting #3 it ain't happening Jeffery Epstein's counsel non-withstanding.
There is a massive bifurcation in how women judge men they know vs. men they do not know.
Women are incredibly harsh and unrealistic when judging men they don't know.
They tend to be more realistic about men they do know.
In other words, we should all be like Cheap Trick:
I want you to want me
I need you to need me
I'd love you to love me
I'm beggin' you to beg me
I want you to want me
I need you to need me
I'd love you to love me
I'll shine up my old brown shoes
I'll put on a brand new shirt
I'll get home early from work
If you say that you love me
Didn't I, didn't I, didn't I see you cryin'
Ohh didn't I, didn't I, didn't I see you cryin'
Feelin' all alone without a friend you know you feel like dyin'
Ohh didn't I, didn't I, didn't I see you cryin'
CC, JSM
Achilles: "Women are incredibly harsh and unrealistic when judging men they don't know. They tend to be more realistic about men they do know."
Lucky you. I have seen the reverse. They don't expect much out of me when they meet me; then they hold me to impossibly high standards once we're together. And that's the ones I do get together with - the ones that friend-zone me hold me to even higher impossible standards. RLTW, JSM
@Iman My "proclivities"?! Of "consensual intercourse" and wanting pedophiles to be brought to justice even if they are rich and powerful? I think Jesus is on my side on both of these issues. You might want to look in the mirror at your "proclivities."
john mosby said...
Lucky you. I have seen the reverse. They don't expect much out of me when they meet me; then they hold me to impossibly high standards once we're together. And that's the ones I do get together with - the ones that friend-zone me hold me to even higher impossible standards. RLTW, JSM
I am below average height. Women when they do not know a man immediately filter for height. Testosterone markers and symmetry are considered next.
On the dating apps the numbers are insane. All women on the
dating apps are chasing the same 5-10% of men.
For me there was 0% chance with women who were taller than 5'4" until they knew me. Most men are completely invisible to women based on just height.
Great pick, Mr.Mosby. The live at Budokan version please!
C’mon, DeeDee. You’re one of those grave-robbin’, dead motherf**kers.
You can find examples on the internet of women finding otherwise physically unattractive people and characters attractive. I'm thinking of examples like Donald Trump and Tony Soprano.
Well, Donnie is pretty hefty now, and the orange makeup does nothing for him, but back in the day he was considered to be quite a good-looking young man. Or so I'm told; being a super-straight man, such things do not cross my radar.
Looks like Summers is another casualty in the ongoing Epstein saga:
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/11/18/summers-steps-back-from-public-commitments-epstein/
This guy got pushed out as Harvard President because he made a politically incorrect comment and now it looks like he may lose his perch as a Harvard professor because he stayed too close to Epstein after is was imprudent to do so.
How many other prominent people are going to see their lives damaged by disclosure of all of the Epstein files?
I am reminded of a story Jerry Hall told, some time ago;
"My Mama said that to keep a man, I needed to be a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the living room, and a whore in the bedroom. And I said, Mama, I can hire a cook and a maid".
Ha-ha. But at the time, I thought, "So can he. So you had better be a damned good whore."
Left Bank @3:53, excellent hypothetical!*
* Let it be known that I haven't refreshed my phone screen in... apparently about five and a half hours, so I'm sure I'm very late here. But I like it when I find common ground with Althouse lefties.
john mosby said...
an attack on one's self-image: in the woman's case, "how dare you think I would stoop to your level!?"
I dare, because I understand that you grossly overestimate your level.
The incredible story from all of the bigwigs who spent a lot of time around Epstein, including high ranking bankers and private equity guys, was that Epstein was such a financial genius that he made them far more money than they paid to him. But now, we hear that Epstein wasn't all that great at probability theory.
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