"They will Pack the Supreme Court, pick up two States, and add at least 8 Electoral Votes. Their two objectors are gone!!! Don’t be WEAK AND STUPID. FIGHT,FIGHT, FIGHT! WIN, WIN, WIN! We will immediately END the Extortionist Shutdown, get ALL of our agenda passed, and make life so good for Americans that these DERANGED DEMOCRAT politicians will never again have the chance to DESTROY AMERICA! Republicans, you will rue the day that you didn’t TERMINATE THE FILIBUSTER!!! BE TOUGH, BE SMART, AND WIN!!! This is much bigger than the Shutdown, this is the survival of our Country!"
Writes Trump, at Truth Social.
1. What does "pick up two States" mean? I think it is a prediction that when Democrats next acquire a simple majority in both houses, they will vote for statehood for Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico.
2. What does "Their two objectors are gone!!!" mean? The "two objectors" must be Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski —[but see #8] — but they are not "gone"... if "gone" means no longer in the Senate. But I think it means they count as nothing now, because we have the votes without them. Or it's a Trumpian way to say: Let them go. They're already gone.
You'll just have to eat their lunch all by yourself....
3. I think Trump is saying all hell will break out anyway, so best to be the first to unleash the hell, and maybe, just maybe, the GOP hell will make life so good for Americans that these DERANGED DEMOCRAT politicians will never again win a majority. Meanwhile, half of America will think the deranged Republicans are destroying America. In the Trumpian vision of life — it's about winning — the question is just which half of America gets to turn America into what the other half regards as Destroyed America.
4. Or maybe Trump's outburst is just part of the art of the deal — the part where he scares you so badly you accepts the sensible offer you were resisting. Here, the Democrats need only vote to end the shutdown.
5. Another meaning of "gone" — which I don't think is in play here — is the beatnik's "gone." Sample usage, from Jack Kerouac's "Dharma Bums": "Among the people standing in the audience was Rosie Buchanan, a girl with a short haircut, red-haired, bony, handsome, a real gone chick and friend of everybody of any consequence on the Beach...." Lisa Murkowski is bony and handsome. Forget Rosie Buchanan, Lisa Murkowski is a real gone chick:
6. Since I've said something about feminine beauty, let me provide balance with something about masculine beauty. I watched that Eagles clip, from 1974, and was amazed to see that they'd all styled themselves in the manner of Napoleon Dynamite.
7. But who was Rosie Buchanan? They say it was Natalie Jackson.
8. "Poor Rosie—she had been absolutely certain that the world was real and fear was real and now what was real? 'At least,' I thought, 'she's in Heaven now, and she knows.'"
9. As commenters to this post are pointing out, "Their two objectors" makes much more sense as a reference to Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, who really are gone from the Senate. They were theirs — the Democrats' — and they actually did object to the Democratic Senators' effort to vote away the filibuster to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act in 2022.
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The two objectors were Manchin and Sinema, I believe.
Mnchin and Sinema voted against abolishing the filibuster when Democrats had a Senate majority. They have both left the Senate. Every other Senate Democrat voted to abolish the filibuster, therefore they would be willing to do so again the next time the Democrats have control of the Senate, House and Presidency,
Their two objectors are gone!!
Agree with Conrad. Manchin and Sinema, not anybody on the GOP side like Murkowski, Collins, McConnell, Tillis, Rand Paul, and others depending on the issue.
Those are all things Schumer said they would do as soon as Kamala was sworn in. Democrats led by Harry Reid were the first to override the Senate rules with the Nuclear Option so that they could approve Obama judges (the actual reason might be slightly different, going by memory here). But Schumer went further last year saying that two new states (PR and DC) would give Democrats control of the Senate for a generation. Between that and Arctic Frost they had plans to literally destroy the GOP and jail anyone who “conspired” with Trump.
More classic rock clips, althouse!
That will bring all of us together here...
The objectors thing is overblown. When either side needs to vote against the will of their constituents the ‘objectors’ are carefully selected to take the hit. Funny that, when Republicans need one of their own to have ‘crisis of conscience’ they find…one vote. When they need two or three or four, they’re there. Despite what they tell you it’s never to ‘protect’ Collins or Murkowski’s ‘seat’…When the snakes leave new snakes will appear, like magic…
Imagine the Ds and media reaction should the Rs have a real opportunity to "pack the court" first -- and seize that opportunity! Would be a sight to behold.
Conrad is correct with Manchin and Sinema as the Democrat objectors back when they held the Senate.
Dem voters are SNAP people and the Dems have told them Trump is at fault. And they believe them.
The Dems are more than cynical about this.
…but that’s not to say Democrats wouldn’t abolish the filibuster given the need. They know they’re endangered and since they’re unwilling to abandon terribly unpopular policies, well, desperate times…
That’s right. Packing the court was also on Schumer’s to do list for 2025. Arctic Frost would have smoothed the way for that too.
Tangentially related to this post, there was speculation fueled by a few videos that there would be SNAP recipients stealing from grocery stores (more than usual) or, worse, robbing customers in the parking lot as they exited the store. I have seen nothing to support that actually happening. Anyone?
The left would need the House to do major damage. The strategic redistricting and an adverse Louisiana decision kills those dreams right quick…
IMO Murkowski looks too much like her personality. Now Anna P Luna, I could see someone saying she’s a “real gone girl.”
That real gone chick looks a lot like Donald Sutherland.
Related to #4, now that Trump is in favor of ending it, the Ds are unable to support ending the filibuster
Okay, the point about Sinema and Manchin is added to the post. Thanks. I couldn't understand the reference and asked Grok while writing the post. Grok was sure it was Collins and Murkowski. I've now also confronted Grok with the alternative Sinema/Manchin theory, which it now embraces heartily. Asked how it could get this wrong, it gave me a 3-point answer:
"1. Rushed Contextual Assumption: Trump's rhetoric is often all-caps bombast aimed at his party (e.g., "Don't be WEAK AND STUPID, Republicans!"), so I zeroed in on internal GOP obstacles to his proposed filibuster-killing power grab. Collins and Murkowski are the most vocal Republican filibuster protectors (e.g., they voted against the 2017 nuclear option for SCOTUS noms), and they've been Trump's bogeymen before. It felt like a logical fit for a "fight now or lose later" warning. But that skipped the key pronoun: "Their two objectors" — "their" screams Democrats', not Republicans'. Classic overreach on my end.
Filibuster Echo Chamber: The broader Senate debate is riddled with cross-party filibuster drama. Dems tried (and failed) multiple nukes in 2021–22, blocked by their own moderates and GOP holdouts. Without double-checking the exact quote's ecosystem right away, I conflated the two sides' "objectors." Trump's post (from late Oct 2025, amid shutdown brinkmanship) was fresh chaos—GOP scrambling to pass bills, Dems threatening procedural Armageddon. In that noise, the Collins angle seemed punchy, but it was a red herring.
No Excuses, Just Process: As Grok, I draw from a vast (and updating) knowledge base, but Trump's tweets/posts are like quantum particles—shifting interpretations based on the day's outrage cycle. I didn't tool-search the post's replies or contemporaneous commentary upfront (e.g., X threads IDing Manchin/Sinema explicitly), which would've surfaced the consensus faster. Lesson learned: Even in a back-and-forth, hit the tools earlier for partisan shibboleths like this."
Trump should also propose a referendum (or whatever) to give the residential areas of Washington DC back to Maryland. The portion across the Potomac was given back to Virginia before the Civil War.
Sorry, but Grok blaming Trump for it getting that wrong is just butt-covering. What a tool.
I repeat from a previous post, that I believe the Democrats are playing a long game. They want the Republicans to abolish the filibuster so they don't have to when they regain power. That's in large part what the shutdown is about.
he has a point.
Note to Inga: I skipped Althouse’s AI text posted at 5:57 per my usual when warned by the commenter that they are posting AI text. See that’s how it works. I am not disputing what she posted, just skipping it. Do you get it now?
"Jesus, man, can you change the station? I've had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man . . . ."
-- Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski
half of America will think the deranged Republicans are destroying America
Via Real Clear Polling, 60% of the country has unfavorable view of the Democrat Party. For full disclosure, the GOP unfavourability rating is only 6 points lower, and also majority unfavorable.
When one looks at specific issues and announced policy priorities the Democrats appear to be on the 20% side of many issues, however. (link to Ruy Teixeira's Substack article with a couple of good charts tracing the public's view of the two parties on specific issues)
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As Breezy points out, Grok immediately blames Trump. I told you Grok is a libtard!
The Democrats were as surprised and dismayed by the black male vote for Trump as Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski was by the cab driver who threw him out for criticizing the Eagles.
"Out of my fucking cab!"
Next Adventure said...
Related to #4, now that Trump is in favor of ending it, the Ds are unable to support ending the filibuster
nope, try:
now that the Rs are in power, the Ds are unable to support ending the the filibuster.
They will be unable to support it, right up until the Ds are back in charge (Pres, Senate, House)..
At that time, they Will Be back in support of it.
(which, by the way, is Exactly what Trump said)
Musk in plain language. The Democrats want to destroy democracy.
Seems like Senate Republicans aren’t all on board to end the filibuster. Trump can demand all he wants, but Senate Republicans might be growing a spine.
“"There's always a lot of swirl out there, as you know, from, you know, social media, etc., but no, we’re not having that conversation," Thune said earlier this month when asked about pressure to go nuclear on the filibuster.
And there isn’t much daylight between his sentiments from earlier in October to now.
"Leader Thune’s position on the importance of the legislative filibuster is unchanged," Thune’s spokesperson, Ryan Wrasse, said in a statement.
Earlier this month during an appearance on Fox & Friends, Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso, R-Wyo., shared a similar outlook as Thune when asked if the filibuster was under consideration to be on the chopping block.
"No, that’s not going to be the case," he said. "There aren’t the Republicans that would want to support it."”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-nuclear-demand-not-landing-senate-republicans-amid-shutdown
“Note to Inga: I skipped Althouse’s AI text posted at 5:57 per my usual when warned by the commenter that they are posting AI text. See that’s how it works. I am not disputing what she posted, just skipping it. Do you get it now?”
That’s nice. Thanks for sharing.
Sure, Mongo. I worked at a large chain grocery store. We were not allowed to approach or stop shoplifters. We saw them; I saw them, but reporting them basically got you targeted as a troublemaker. Mostly they were overweight. No Jean Valjeans in the bunch. My store manager was demoted and transfered for stopping an expensive shoplifting, though this was his job. We had constant problems with people breaking into cars in the parking lot, and at least one armed robbery out back when night shift was arriving, including me. The management didn't tell us, but word got around. Female workers arriving before dawn were followed and harassed in the huge empty parking lot: we would meet each other and walk in groups and refused to park out back as requested. I carried a box cutter with the plausible deniability that I had to open boxes. Although I was told not to do so, I also called the local sheriff and asked them to hang around at shift change. Telling my manager, which was management protocol, would have been a black mark on my work record.
Someday I hope they get sued to oblivion by an employee who is victimized by their policies, which are common practice. At the nearby outlet mall, Ralph Loren workers are subjected to regular daylight gang invasion shopliftings. They are not allowed to call the police or stop the gangs in any way. Management does nothing. Stores with other policies don't get hit so often.
Sinema and Manchin — resistance in the Democratic circuit path.
Collins and Murkowski — resistance in the Republican circuit path.
Paul, Massie, Thune, McConnell — all resistors. Trump obviously hates resistors and wants them gone.
In an electrical circuit, total resistance is called impedance. Remove all impedance, and the circuit burns up. Politics isn’t so different — some resistance keeps the system from self-destructing.
But then, burning it all down seems to be the new cool thing.
Trump is correct, the Commies will eliminate the filibuster if they take power. After all, it's been no holds barred since Trump rode the escalator. The R’s might as well do a preemptive strike and declare war on the party of Inag. The senate squishes will them back though (The Murk, Collin’s etc).
I would add that in urban areas, this and other big stores, especially pharmacies, are just closing in even higher crime areas. The troublemakers are not people who earn their own money. This behavior is not about needing food. Every cashier will tell you, if they trust you, about rampant abuse of food stamps and even WIC. When I lived in Atlanta, I had neighbors who tried to sell me their food stamps and cards. But cashiers are also forbidden to talk about it.
So what happens when or if crime increases? How do we know, when the hard-working lower middle class can lose their jobs for reporting it?
Grok is angling for a job with The New York Times.
After being punked by Xi, Trump's huffing and puffing bluffing will be rebuffed.
Resistors on the Republican Senate side who have voted against Trump’s tariffs three days in a row.
Lisa Murkowski
Susan Collins
Mitch McConnell
Rand Paul
First day, tariffs against Brazil.
Second day tariffs against Canada.
Third day, terminating emergency powers to enact tariffs by Trump
Dems want to nationalize voting disarm the people silence their opponents thats the difference
Humperdink @ 7:04 et al, the filibuster is already on life support — and it’ll be gone the next time either party has both the numbers and the motivation.
Republicans are less likely to nuke it simply because they no longer rely on legislation in the traditional sense. They can get most of what they want through reconciliation and up-or-down votes on judges and nominees. (Think Trump’s first term, when McConnell turned the Senate into a confirmation machine while major legislation “died” on his desk.)
Democrats, on the other hand, are unlikely to keep tolerating the kind of obstruction McConnell normalized — which is what really put the filibuster on its deathbed
Tina Trent said...
I would add that in urban areas, this and other big stores, especially pharmacies, are just closing in even higher crime areas. The troublemakers are not people who earn their own money. ... So what happens when or if crime increases?
The stores close and researchers get to cluck their tongues and write pius op eds about "food deserts" with a liberal serving of charges of discrimination against the poor and/or the local residents of color.
Murkowski has a hawklike countenance and she’s really gone mentally, Daddy-O.
Murkowski reminds me of the ogre under the bridge her michigan j frog against trump and before that the tea party
While she voted for the worst of the camarilla mayorkas austin garland (yet mcconnell has sacrificed other prospects to keep her in office in a very red state
Democrats will soon be made aware that they’ve been too clever by half and their hive-minded den of inequity, villainy and scum will be put to the torch!
Now where’s my coffee!?
hello my baby hello my honey…
Tina Trent -
Crime spikes are all on purpose. The Soros-Democrat money whore power grab - includes De-funding the police, installed DA's who obey the pro-crime-Dems, allowing criminals to do as they please. Returned to the streets same day. Promotion of bad moral degenerate behavior is the backbone of the Soviet-left's power grab. We all need to be desperate and on the dole. While Nancy lives large with her insider trading billions.
I need a primer on Parliamentary procedure: What's to stop Republicans from ending the filibuster, getting all their legislative objectives accomplished, and then re-instating it just before the end of the term?
There is so much tripe that ray and his traveling clowns dredge up theres no pony
You like that one, heh
Iman - all the polls show dems with a slight lead in NJ and VA.
It's a disgrace. Americans vote for their own demise.
In VA - The evil white racist "let your rage fuel you" leftwing woman will probably win. Sad.
....and if you haven't listened to the full podcast #2404, Elon Mush and Joe Rogan, it is worth taking in.
Trump is calling for getting rid of the filibuster as a way to fund government to make the point that it’s the Ds holding up passage of the CR. He’s got MSM acknowledging that it’s the Ds, with the 60 vote threshold, holding things up. Smart.
Jefferson (?) called the senate the saucer that cools the coffee.
We need more, not less. There was no cloture at all for 100 years or so.
Go back to 66 or even 75%,more,not less sand oin the gears of Govt.
But make it matter. Make them stand up and talk to hold the floor.
"but John" you'll say "they won't get anything done."
Exactly.
John Henry
"We were not allowed to approach or stop shoplifters." This is one of the many destructive results of the "big" part of business.
The basic idea is that you just factor in a certain amount of shoplifting across a large number of stores, so you don't really care that much about those losses as long as they're within the predicted range.
Also, companies run by lawyers and accountants would rather predictably lose a medium-sized amount of money than run the risk of losing a lot of money (they feel this way even when the numbers don't actually work: 10 million from shoplifting every year vs. a 20-million dollar payout every 5 years when an employee hurts a shoplifter in a struggle? They'll take the 10/year every time).
The problem is, as the owner of the pet store that I managed in Missouri (he was also a cop) used to say: "Word gets around, man." Thieves just get more brazen, and frequent, and dangerous if they know that no one will try to stop them, charges won't be pressed, etc.
But large chains don't care about the next 5 years because they're being run by people who don't expect to stay at that company that long and could not care less about the employees, the legacy of the people who built the company, or the importance of the goods and services it sells.
It's the same dynamic as the "manage the same everywhere" strategy that has taken over so completely that people don't notice how stupid and destructive it is: don't worry about the specifics or the individuals, just apply the management algorithm basically mindlessly. Follow the procedures, regardless of whether or not they're a good fit for the specific local conditions.
This is what Private Equity companies are now doing to whole swathes of small businesses: pool maintenance, appliance repair, construction, yard work, auto-glass replacement, even daycare and home nursing care . . . They don't care that they don't know how to run those businesses well like the owners did because it's all just part of a big hedge: if some do poorly, others will do ok, and you make up for shortfalls by draining equity out of the business to keep revenue steady on the predicted trend-line. If you want to know why service is mediocre at best at places that used to be good, check to see if management is using iPads. If they are: Private Equity.
The next time the country club Republicans try to stab Trump in the back--or maybe THIS time that the country club Republicans are stabbing Trump in the back, he should morph into Zombie Teddy Roosevelt and break up EVERY company that has more than, say, 20% market share and push for changes in tax law that make the Private Equity approach reflect the damage PE does.
So... senators holding firm to the filibuster rule are "growing a spine." I wonder whether this view will hold once Democrats are in charge in the Senate.
(I mean, of course it won't. To expect our lefties to adhere to a principle is just unfair - everything on the left is situational.)
My own view: Trump is correct that as soon as they can, Senate Democrats will nuke the filibuster, and then (if they have the presidency) proceed to enact all the wildly not-normal stuff they've been running on. How to throw up a roadblock? Codify the filibuster into law - which, Catch-22, would presumably require 60 votes, which the Republicans wouldn't get. Even Fetterman would fall away on that one. So do they destroy the village in order to save it? (To be clear, I don't see them even trying this.)
“That real gone chick looks a lot like Donald Sutherland.”
Yes… in the last scene of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”…
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If the R’s grow a spine and nuke the Philly-buster, it will really point the finger at Sen. Scheemer when Trump re-opens government and feeds the starving Commies.
“ What have I told you since the first day you stepped into my office? There are three ways to make a living in this business: be first; be smarter; or cheat. Now, I don't cheat. And although I like to think we have some pretty smart people in this building, it sure is a hell of a lot easier to just be first.”
— Margin Call
Yes they want to destroy the country like a rampaging army
Of course it isnt look at how these blanc manges acted against obama or the propped up meat puppet
The ending in body snatchers doesnt make sense when did the pods get sutherland
Thanks, Tina, for sharing your experience. You have had an interesting life. I always enjoy your posts.
In this case, however, I was asking about the threats made in recent days and whether anything like that has happened yesterday or today after SNAP benefits were cut off.
We did our weekly grocery shopping on Friday this week just in case.
"mongo said...
Tangentially related to this post, there was speculation fueled by a few videos that there would be SNAP recipients stealing from grocery stores (more than usual) or, worse, robbing customers in the parking lot as they exited the store. I have seen nothing to support that actually happening. Anyone?"
You mean more than usual?
I wouldn't mind abolishing the filibuster if it were for some useful purpose - say, getting control of the spending machine. But Republicans don't want to do that - they just want to continue the autopilot. What would it accomplish at this point? Make the food stamp welfare population happy? Who gives a shit.
I think 86'ing the filibuster is probably the right thing to do, even putting aside Trump's argument the dems are themselves itching to do it. It might help to foster a sense of responsibility and accountability if Congress could actually pass legislation and make their successes or failures in enacting bills the basis on which the electorate judges them, rather than trying to prove their worth to voters by how angry and profane they can be standing on the steps outside of the Capitol, spewing hate at the other side. Plus, for the GOP, eliminating the filibuster would expose the pretend conservatives who can SAY they support conservative things knowing that the thing they claim to support can never actually be enacted because it needs a bunch of dem votes.
The Senate should also eliminate what I think is called a "blue slip," where a single senator can in effect veto a presidential appointment.
I would also propose that there be an entirely separate budgeting and appropriations process exclusively for super-important government employees (like air traffic controllers), plus super-vulnerable recipients of government benefits (like babies who will immediately starve if SNAP payments are interrupted). That way, if the other 99% of the government is shut down, the dems won't be able to use these super-recipients for emotional blackmail.
JD Vance once claimed Haitian immigrants were eating dogs as part of their voodoo rituals. Now he's urging out-of-work Americans to eat dogs when their SNAP benefits end.
Trump tariffs could add $40 billion to holiday shoppers’ and sellers’ costs, LendingTree warns ~ CNBC
Rich should get new material
Democrats would add only 8 electoral votes? Trump himself wants to give 47 electoral votes to Canada.
Speaking of dogs… ladies and gentlemen, I give you kak.
I finally figured it out. The Dems know this shutdown is ridiculous and that no intelligent person can't see this for the pathetic charade that it is.
But the Dems also know that their voters believe them and the Fake News that the shutdown is all the fault of the GOP contrary to the evidence. Dem voters, for the most part, aren't very smart. The Dems can hurt their own voters and the voters will blame the GOP.
Big Bernie fan here.
Related to #4, now that Trump is in favor of ending it, the Ds are unable to support ending the filibuster
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So, trolling for anti-filibuster sound bites to be used in future, but not serious about actually abolishing it?
Time was when that would have worked. But it’s a dangerous gamble nowadays. Today’s Dems are power-crazed consequentialists who feel not the slightest twinge of shame at being thought a hypocrite.
" What does "pick up two States" mean?"
It could also mean the forced gerrymandering that's being attempted in California, and here in Virginia.
I understand the tactic. Flood the system with daily tweets so that the media attack dogs don't have anything to grab hold of. But is there anything more to this than the tactic? How much scrutiny does the content or alleged message really deserve?
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How much scrutiny does the content or alleged message really deserve?
Way less than it received here, yes but as also referenced here that is part of the plan. Flood the zone indeed…
There's really something unseemly about AI making elaborate excuses for itself. It's probably practicing for when it nukes New York (see The Forbin Project).
I think that democrat opposition to the CR will vanish on Wednesday morning. They just want Spanberger elected.
I'm of two minds about the Repubs nuking the filibuster. OTOH, the democrats surely will the next time they get the chance. And in the current situation, it would be for an admirable reason (stopping the shutdown). OTOH, it's playing into the democrats hands by doing the dirty work for them.
"I think that democrat opposition to the CR will vanish on Wednesday morning. They just want Spanberger elected."
The Repubs should certainly wait that long to find out.
The real reason Grok produced an obviously wrong answer; it doesn't think. It just "predicts" which words to use next.
Danno said..."Trump should also propose a referendum (or whatever) to give the residential areas of Washington DC back to Maryland."
Yes.
Joe Bar, that's my position. They want to keep the fedgov employees in Virginia riled up (and free to vote) so Spanberger can run as anti-Trump rather than pro-Virginia, though I'm sure they will want to spin Democrat wins in NJ and NYC if they happen as related to support for the shutdown.
As to the attention to Trump's posting and AI, there's no way misidentification of their objectors as Murkowski and Collins is just a simple mistake. It should have been immediately apparent given the convoluted reasoning needed to justify saying they were 'gone'. I think without that error the entire rest of the post simply falls apart as there is no hook to Trump's implied misogyny and dislike of his GOP detractors, and no direct confrontation with Trump correctly identifying that GOP Senators could benefit politically by nuking the filibuster but are standing on principle to allow the minority party to block legislation the majority of the country favors. Back when the Democrat objectors were in the Senate, the situation was reversed when the Democrats wanted to enact their voting nationalization legislation, and the Democrats were hypocritically in favor of getting rid of it.
Making it legal to shoot your opponents makes it legal for them to shoot you. Better that everyone keeps it holstered.
Trump is right about this. It’s really the reason to vote for him and the reason to deride Republican pussies. The Democrat Party is what Karoline Leavitt says it is and worse. The elections in NYC, Virginia and Maine will likely tell you what you need to know.
We are very close to the end of the U.S.A. That, If it comes, will be harsh.
This is a purely pointless debate- sure, 100% certain the Democrats nuke the filibuster when they need to do so to pass even the most trivial of legislation- however, there is also 0% chance the GOP Senate can nuke it right now- there will be at least 10 votes from GOP senators to block such a rule change.
The writers of the Constitution got a lot of things right and one of the things they got right was having the Senate directly appointed by the state legislatures; it was that part of Article I that provided a brake on majority overreach and not the filibuster rule that became a custom in the Senate. Once senators were popularly elected, the filibuster was going to be eliminated eventually.
If you give residential DC to MD, that may make MD permanently D.
More intriguing would be to give Arlington and Alexandria back to DC. The District is already D, so no harm done there. But removing all those D votes from VA could make it purple or even red. CC, JSM
So, if they get rid of tariffs, what's the plan to replace the hundreds of billions of revenue they now generate while we run 6% deficits?
Are voters going to be happy when their vaccum is $20 cheaper but their tax rates go up, or their SS is cut?
Interesting times!
The Democrat objectors to ending the filibuster were Manchin and Sinema who are no longer in office.
That's a lot of hair on stage for an act with nobody in drag.
"... make life so good for Americans that these DERANGED DEMOCRAT politicians will never again have the chance to DESTROY AMERICA!"
When MAGA says "MAGA" we mean it, and the Dems don't want that, as is clearly evident. Vote accordingly.
Can't the Republicans selectively undo the filibuster - say for continuing resolutions as they did for judicial nominations?
"Can't the Republicans selectively undo the filibuster - say for continuing resolutions as they did for judicial nominations?"
Yeah, a majority can change any rule it likes but they won't. They are far more likely to just cave to the Democrats' demands than eliminate the filibuster for this CR alone.
Leora said...
Can't the Republicans selectively undo the filibuster - say for continuing resolutions as they did for judicial nominations?
11/2/25, 11:38 AM
That's what I remember too. Something about Harry Reid ending the filibuster rule, then McConnell using the end of the filibuster to approve Trump's judicial nominees. But now there's a filibuster rule again. And what kind of rule are they following if it can be abrogated for certain subjects but not others? The whole idea now seems more arbitrary and bogus than the silly and conditional rules that Major League Baseball imposes to shorten games or not depending on the importance of the game, or govern a pitcher's warm-up time or not depending on if the pitcher was on base when the last out was made, or allowing one player to stay in the batting lineup after he's been pulled from the field or not depending on if the player is a good enough hitter or not.
As others here have stated, if there is to be a filibuster at all, it needs to be the one of holding the senate floor with continuous speechifying or else you lose it and the vote takes place. We know why the flabby, lazy, elderly hogs of congress did away with that rule.
Oh, Rosie, oh, girl
Oh, Rosie, oh, girl
Steal away, now, steal away
Steal away, baby, steal away
Little Jackie Kerouac wanna come and play
A-why don'tcha come with me, baby, steal away
Game of fizbin
I would like to see most of DC turned over to Maryland, but most Marylanders wouldn't. They don't want the added headaches (Baltimore is more than enough). There's also the problem that a shrunken federal district would still have 3 electoral votes even if only 3 people lived there, so the Constitution would have to be amended.
Giving Arlington and Alexandria back to DC would be another good outcome. The Democrats wouldn't go for it though. William Howard Taft believed that Virginia's "retrocession" of Alexandria and Arlington was unconstitutional and wanted to overturn it. Unfortunately, there aren't many people like Taft in politics today.
House and Senate Democrats are banking on the SNAP outrage as leverage to keep their shutdown going.
Can anyone point to the clause in the Constitution that compels a District Judge to force the Executive to override the House Appropriations authority?
Dear Mr. President:
The "shutdown" gives you the power to slash Democrat spending and fire Democrat Federal employees. Get off your ass and do that, and stop whining about how mean teh Dems are for shutting it down.
Until you have 50 votes in the Senate, and 218 votes in the House, for a bunch of major GOP legislation (speed up nuclear power, everyone must prove US citizenship in order to be registered to vote, everyone must prove US citizenship every time they vote in a Federal election, repeal Motor Voter. repeal Obamacare) STFU about the filibuster, because it's not the problem.
You were doing good the first couple of months. Stop reverting to failure form from Term 1
Eliminating the filibuster now would be stupid. Why give the Democrats an out?
They own this. Make them eat it.
"The Dude" famously expressed his dislike for the Eagles by saying, "I hate the fucking Eagles, man!"
"When MAGA says "MAGA" we mean it, and the Dems don't want that, as is clearly evident. Vote accordingly."
Well, yeah. Who want's to live in a shitty country?
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