The NYT reports: "Her announcement came days after President Trump branded her a 'traitor' for breaking with him and helping compel the Justice Department to release its files related to Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted sex offender. Ms. Greene, who was elected in 2020 and positioned herself as a die-hard Trump supporter until a series of recent ruptures with the president on a variety of issues, made the abrupt announcement in a video and statement she posted online, filmed from her home in Georgia, her Christmas tree on display behind her."
This is another one of the "certain topics" I was talking about yesterday in "I feel as though unseen readers are leaning on me to write about certain topics that I see out there." Today's news is easy to absorb, and now I don't have to react to what the NYT has been pushing at me for the last few days in things like "The Three G.O.P. Women Who Broke Trump’s Grip on Congress" and "Marjorie Taylor Greene Was Not on Our Bingo Card."In the "Bingo Card" conversation, Frank Bruni said to Bret Stephens: "Bret, steel yourself for a sentence I never expected to write, a preoccupation I never expected to have, words that shock, shake and shame me. I cannot stop wondering if I’ve sold Marjorie Taylor Greene short."
And Bret said:"The revolution always winds up eating its own, as Robespierre and Trotsky found out. Trump was the guy who let the lunatics out of the conservative asylum, Greene foremost among them. And now, no surprise, she’s turned on him. The question is whether this turns into a full-scale Republican schism or they find a way to paper over their differences for the time being."
Yes, you see what the theme has been this past week: The Republicans are breaking with Trump. At The Bulwark, there was "Brace Yourself for … Full. Blown. Panic. The president is feeling cornered and lashing out. It will get ugly—and dangerous." Oh, really? Are the walls closing in?
Meanwhile, in the Oval Office, Trump was finding common ground with Zohran Mamdani. They're both practical men who want what's good for New York City. And Trump affably shrugged off all the old insults — Go ahead and call me a fascist. I've heard worse. You can just say it. It's easier.
Greene's grim announcement stepped on Trump's happy times, and we'll see where people choose to go.
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Why are Mandami supporters supporting his working with Trump? It’s like they have no principles at all…
’Brace Yourself for … Full. Blown. Panic.’
The two-minute hate from the Bulwark pussies.
Bulwark is like the economist who successfully predicted 13 of the last 4 recessions.
Why are Trump supporters supporting his working with Mamdani? It’s like they have no principles at all…
It's too early for a Christmas tree.
I can't speak for anyone else but me, but I couldn't give a shit with whom Trump sits down and talks. It's Trump's way of doing his job, buteven after all these years I would not expect a Leftist to get that. It is the Leftists who break out in hives when they think anyone "normalizes" Trump.
Hell, he sat down with Kim Jong Un, why not Mamdani?
MTG has learned from the Cheney's experience that breaking with Trump makes you suddenly beloved by the MSM and beltway crowd, no matter how much they hated you before. For some like her, it's hard to pass up the opportunity for all that attention.
"The walls are closing in!" How many times have we heard this and then it. Never. Happens? Go watch The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) – the crushing wall scene is unforgettable and fits the trope perfectly.
I think that the word they were looking for was "ruction," not "rupture," but I guess expecting quality writing out of people who are chosen for their beliefs foremost is asking a lot.
I will take Greene's side over Trump's any day, and the fact that the spokespeople for the uniparty are celebrating this just weighs in her favor. I think that Trump has abandoned the vision that won him the presidency. Maybe the whole thing is more complicated than Greene understands, but I feel like when Trump read Greene out of the party, he read me out of the party.
Sometimes it’s fun to have a nut on your side for comic relief. Other times you just know that the cringe factor someone induces on her opposition will eventually make her voters cringe too. At least if the nut runs as a Republican. The D’s nuts tend to rise to leadership positions.
If she supports the GOP she would have quit in time for a normal election next year but she wants to hurt her party and resigned in a way that requires a special election and even the retards at The Politico know we rarely win special elections and have lost the last three in GA in spectacular fashion.
Good riddance. Hope no space lasers hit you on the way out.
The first postulate of propaganda is that human beings have an innate need to belong to a group; baboons and chimpanzees live in "troops," after all and it predates our emerging as humans, and is wired incredibly deeply. The engineering aspect of propaganda science consists of preying on the fear of separation from the group, and this is accomplished through narratives.
So basically anybody who questions the wisdom of this course of action or that by "leaders" risks becoming an outcast, well, almost guarantees it.
Why are Trump supporters supporting his working with Mamdani
This is what Trump does- works with opponents, looks for consensus…the art of the deal. Plus this doosh is going to be mayor of Trump’s city and he doesn’t want to it to fall to further ruin.
What’s the explanation for Madmani’s fans?
Trump was the guy who let the lunatics out of the conservative asylum,
So, who let the lunatics out of the "liberal" asylum, gave them the car keys, a full tank of gas, and a map to "liberal" headquarters, the combination to the safe therein, and handy cash bonuses to smooth the way forward?
I saw the name calling thing…Trump was exasperated with the propagandists again. I thought his response was clever…
"Hope no space lasers hit you on the way out."
While I sincerely doubt that "space lasers" were involved in the starting of those wildfires, it has been noted that a string of them started on twenty mile intervals on a certain highway, so the speculation that they were set is not unreasonable.
But sure, Charlie Kirk begins to question Israel's horrific tactics in Gaza, and kablooie! I don't think that Israel had him killed, but you know what? If Israel didn't constantly carry out, and brag about, assassinations on foreign soil, they wouldn't come up as one of the "usual suspects" quite so quickly.
MTG apparently wanted to run for the Senate or for governor and Trump would not support her. He wouldn't give his support because she has absolutely no chance of being elected to either position. I live in GA and I am no fan of hers. She could at least have served out her term and kept her mouth shut. Instead she had her little tantrum and is taking her ball and going home. Her district can do better.
When you are an elected official, you have a duty to remain in office barring a major life change such as illness. People campaigned for you and voted for you. If your workplace becomes hostile, you must suck it up buttercup. MTG is a snowflake.
Wow, the left falls in love with Dick Cheney and MTG in a single week
Who’s next? Steve Bannon?
As MountainMan said, MTG wanted to run for GA Senate seat, which would have been a sure loss of a winnable seat, so she's the selfish one, not Trump, who was just engaging in the normal sort of discipline that any political party leader anywhere would do in such a situation.
Why does everyone dial up the stupid is it a prerequisite
She did some good things for the j6ers she went down the rabbit trail on israel
The dems and the uniparty protect their eccentrics (stark raving loonies) like plaskett from accountability add gaseous lesuo swallwell
Go huddle up with the Democrats like sheep in a fold, Cheney's funeral was just a vision of the future of American politics. But this whole affair is looking like that scene in Star Wars where Lucas went back and changed who fired the first shot, which I seem to recall, was Trump.
"Oh let's all scurry back to the 'safety' of the disastrous policies of endless war that we have followed, Democrat or Republican, since 1992."
They havent fixed the fulton county mail drop in fact the possums seem to have started up the witchhunt again in earnest
How does anybody stand to live in the shithole of political life? It’s a nightmare of constant vicious accusation and character assassination, particularly in the social media age.
No its more like appalachin the mobs last roundup
Bret has the most foolish take
Basing your takes on a myth is a hard way to deal with life, Jaq. Trump did not “read her out of the party” and if you think his “withdraw my support” statement is the pivotal event then consider what she said last week. In a private meeting earlier this year she asked for his endorsement in a run for Governor of GA. He showed her the polls reflecting little chance for her to win the expected matchup.
That meeting according to Greene was the point she went anti-MAGA and simultaneously started promoting the stupid “MAGA is imploding over Epstein” idiocy. Then after voting for the CR in the House started appearing with Hakeem and congressional Democrats at every shutdown theatre press conference.
Finally this week after ignoring her 5-month temper tantrum did Trump say he wouldn’t support her reelection. She’s still in the party. Still representing GA until January, unfortunately. She can have a long career bashing ex-colleagues like the other fake-cons in Media and bulwarkian orbits. It’s a good gig for people with negotiable scruples.
In matters of crazy people you just have to put up with them until they resolve. There was nothing that was going to make MTG happy. Sadly it was her job to make her constituents happy. She did not seem to make that a priority.
That was some foolishness on her part, but she could have survived it if she had dialed down the eccentricities
Of course because the Dems stole two dozen seats through the census we are in this predicament
---- This is another one of the "certain topics" I was talking about yesterday
Could it be because it's the same bologna served up by the same old baloneyheads?
MTG's district is, per Wikipedia, the most reliably Republican District in GA.
"Located in Northwest Georgia, it was created following the 2010 census, when the state gained a 14th seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. With a Cook Partisan Voting Index of R+19, it is the most Republican congressional district in Georgia.[3]"
Since at least 2008, every statewide Republican candidate has garnered 68-72%. MTG's predecessor regularly won 75% or more; notably MTG won 75% when she first ran in 2020 but was down to 64% in 2024. They could run George Conway as a Republican and he'd win (I hope they don't).
I don't think anybody is thinking that the Republicans are going to lose the district. A Dem has as much chance of winning as Sliwa had in NYC.
I can be convinced my take is wrong. Simply show me how she goes from MAGA support to agreeing with the clown who dissed her “bleach blonde bad butch body” that Trump is a fascist stooge of the Joooos?
Go ahead and call me a fascist. I've heard worse. You can just say it. It's easier.
Didn’t Trump use the term “despot,” not fascist? Seems like Trump prefers the unitary style of governance terms like despot, autocrat and dictator over the ideological connotations of fascist.
I mean, as Dirty Harry intoned, “man’s got to know his limitations.”
Except everyone knows Republicans only vote in force in Presidential election years. “Reliably R” seats go down in special elections all the time in lots of places.
Mark said...
Why are Trump supporters supporting his working with Mamdani? It’s like they have no principles at all…
There are some Democrat voters who have good intentions. Not many, but some. We have no problem working with people who have good intentions.
The bulwinkles take is amusing
They need to write better scripts
Jaq said...
I will take Greene's side over Trump's any day, and the fact that the spokespeople for the uniparty are celebrating this just weighs in her favor. I think that Trump has abandoned the vision that won him the presidency. Maybe the whole thing is more complicated than Greene understands, but I feel like when Trump read Greene out of the party, he read me out of the party.
Trump is trying to lead a bag of cats.
It isn't just that the Republican political tent includes views that are oppositional. It is that only the most self interested and greedy people of either side run for office.
MTG was right about the Epstein files.
MTG also thought she was more important than she is.
MTG also thought that being right about one thing made you right about all things. She is trying to hand a congressional seat to Democrats right now.
There is always a bigger picture.
They're both practical men who want what's good for New York City.
One of them is, anyway. As I’ve written before, communism is not practical, and neither are communists.
The Times is perhaps the most ridiculous take except for the bulwinkle
..."She could at least have served out her term and kept her mouth shut. Instead she had her little tantrum...."
That was pretty much my take on it, too. A Public Servant would have just finished her term on behalf of her constituents and then got on with her life. I always kind of thought that MTG was a good example of a fairly normal person that got chewed up by Washington DC and went a little crazy, became erratic. I think Trump told her privately about the bad polling for the Senator / Governor race, and she took it as a personal affront and went on the attack. I wonder what her post-election ex-husband is thinking right now.
This comeuppance to all of you idiots who fell under the spell of these grifters is just too enjoyable. How could you ignore that Trump was a big phony, crazy blowhard whose only interest was himself and taking over the Republican party and turning it into his own personality cult? It was all so obvious!
It is going to be a long three years of King Donald falling even more into madness. I predict it will be Republicans who will try to orchestrate his third impeachment, so they can start rebuilding the party ahead of 2028.
This was all so predictable.
I didn’t pay much attention to her though the quit and the timing smells more like the result inside ball pushing her out…
I was shocked by this. I think MTG has vastly underestimated how much she had Trump by the balls. And yet paradoxically overestimated her own personal appeal. Resigning means she lets Trump win, and becomes nobody. She could have been an agent for turning Trump back on course, and now he is going to double down on some of his more stupid policies. Not cool.
She chose poorly
"They're both practical men who want what's good for New York City." What makes you think Mamdani is a "practical man"? His major? His job experience? His plans? His rhetoric? His allies and comrades? Or just the vibe that he can't possibly mean the antisemitic postcolonial socialism he spouts?
Another sign of MTG's selfishness: Twitter reports that her Congressional pension vests on January 3rd, so publicly quitting now but making the effective date January 5th is pure greed.
" 'Reliably R' seats go down in special elections all the time in lots of places." This is northwest GA. Just like all of north GA it is now reliably R, just like the other place I live, northeast TN. Both regions are large majority white with very small Dem-voting black populations as they were not significant slave-holding areas before the Civil War. Outside of Atlanta, you can pretty much predict how a county in GA will vote - blue or red - by laying on top of it the famous "Slave Map" of 1860. The darker the county on that map, the more likely it is D; the lighter, the more likely it is R. Friends I have mentioned this to usually are skeptical but in the recent statewide vote for 2 utility commission seats I posted both on Facebook and they are almost a perfect match. Hell will freeze over before MTG's district goes blue.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a better example of Scott Adams's "two movies" phenomenon. The left appears to believe that MTG's potential resignation is a sign of the collapsing of the MAGA right and the death knell of Trump's influence, whereas the right appears to believe that it's about freaking time that this... less than stable character, shall we say, realized that she's not as big a deal as she thought she was.
Looks like Chuck AKA The Serial Killer is trying out a new handle.
The headline should be, “Crazy Ex on the Warpath”.
The GOP is just getting in touch with its inner loser. Trump always craps on his true supporters, especially if they're WASP, and has an unrequited love affair with Ivy leaguers and minorities. After all he's a NYC guy, and up to the 1990s was a moderate Democrat.
Adding to the Chaos is the Big money Donors have more or less taken over the Republican party machine and are demanding 100 percent Israel first. If not, the knives are out. Given anti-Israel sentiment has exploded among under 50 Republicans, this isn't a good thing.
Never forget that Trump managed to surround himself, in his first term, with a greatest collection of ingrates, backstabbers, and disloyal establishment hacks unparalleled in US Presidental history. He's just not good at personnel.
Meanwhile, the Bush familiy and friends are waiting in the wings. Hilarious to see George and Laura backslapping and laughing with their "Good friends" BIden, Dr. Jill, Kam, Pence, and Mitch the Bitch. I wonder why the Clintons and Obamas didnt pay respects to the Dickman.
Such heartbreak. Donald Trump no longer has time for Marjorie Taylor Green after taking up with new boytoy Zohran Mamdani.
The real break between MTG and Trump came when he wouldn't back off his desire to import 600 thousand Chinese Colleget students and increase the flow of H-1Bs. The split widened when Trump refused to support MTG for Governor or Senator. You get nothing for supporting Trump. Trump didn't think she could win. Now, the R majority is razor think and since half-dozen R's can always be counted on to jump ship, Congress will do zero till Jan 2027.
Jaq said…"I feel like when Trump read Greene out of the party, he read me out of the party."
Here we go again.
Did Green's bank account really go from $700K to $25 Million in her 4 years in office? If that's the case, there needs to be an investigation into where that money came from. That's Pelosi level aggrandizement, and Green had neither Pelosis decades in congress nor her status as twice elected Speaker.
Otherwise, my feelings about this are the same as Eric The Fruitbat- a Christmas tree before Thanksgiving? That's ain't right.
The walls (of the East Wing) were closing in on Trump his whole first term, and look what happened to them.
"Frank Bruni said to Bret Stephens ...".
Not exactly Too Much Information. More like All the Information you Need.
In two years, no one will know what the initials MTG stand for.
There are presidents and there are mayors. Mayors need presidents more than presidents need mayors. Otherwise, why would Mandami go to the White House?
A scheduled MeaTinG.
MTG never impressed me much.
She sure likes all the conspiracy theories. Look - some conspiracies are true - some not. She buys em all.
The cloud seeding is a fun one.
I was listening to the Ross Kaminski show a few weeks ago and he interviewed a man who works with cloud seeding.
(really - it should be called moisture enhancement)
The interview was interesting. Did you know cloud seeding is real and it all started with an experiment with dry ice? (decades ago)
That's all they use - dry ice. Anyway - the process with dry ice requires cold snow or rain weather in the area -for the process to help deliver more moisture.
Not a conspiracy at all.
All the new Never-Trumpers - like Achilles (💘Candace Owens/Fuentes forever! 💘) should read Mike Wolf's comment at 7:50.
Her seat is solid Red. Certainly there is someone out there not crazy who can fill it?
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/reconstruction-saturday-november?utm_source=post-email-
90% of the "GOP civil war over Israel" stuff has been pushed by foreign accounts that got exposed last night.
The other 10% has been Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes.
It's all astroturfed. Almost no one in real life considers it a major issue, regardless of their position.
Well a few. Yeah.
Context - one example... of many.
Marjorie Taylor Brown wants you to forget about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
While Marjorie Taylor Greene was celebrated in Washington for forswearing toxic politics, her internal polling showed she'd have to go back to harassing school shooting survivors if she wanted to win another Republican primary.
Read her statement here
Also - read the Coffee and Covid explanation. 11:05 narciso link.
Perhaps I am being too hard on MTG - letting the hackD press control me.
That is never good.
Looks like she is frustrated with congress - way way more than Trump.
"“My bills,” an exasperated MTG said, “just sit collecting dust.” That line said it all. Her frustration isn’t really with Trump; it is with Congress itself — the calcified, useless, slow-walking, self-protecting institution she’s been at war with since the day she arrived."
There is a purity test among some on the right these days in which MAGA gets defined pretty much any way you want it to be as long as it is pure to your beliefs.
Among those:
You can't just be America First. You have to be America Only.
You must be Christian. And by that I mean the right kind of Christian (I'll let them figure it out.)
You have to focus only on those things they want, up front, right now, and all the time. Doing other things, getting other things done really irritates them. Especially if it involves other nations.
When I read about MTG, my thought was that she's not going away. Anyone who thinks this person who came from obscurity to a national personality known by her initials is going back to Cumming, GA (as nice as that is) is nuts. She has a plan in place. She's not doing this to go away.
She will either be the or a face of a new right wing party full of people who consider themselves more pure than the rest of us, or she'll be a well-paid talking head on CNN. I am sure she has something in place.
I suspect there is less demand for purity than they think there is.
As for who Trump talks to, did nobody read "The Art of the Deal"?
Your welcome peachy
The possums are at fault
Peachy said...
90% of the "GOP civil war over Israel" stuff has been pushed by foreign accounts that got exposed last night.
The other 10% has been Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes.
It's all astroturfed. Almost no one in real life considers it a major issue, regardless of their position.
Well a few. Yeah.
Context - one example... of many.
Proof that it isn't just democrats that have stupid ignorant fools among them.
Tucker and Candace Owens are the right now. They hold the majority influence in popular thought. They have millions of subscribers and viewers. Fox and Daily Wire get thousands.
MAGA is going to get what it wants.
At some point idiots like you and the other Desantis wing republicans will face Nick Fuentes honestly and in good faith or you will just be ignored.
Temujin said...
There is a purity test among some on the right these days in which MAGA gets defined pretty much any way you want it to be as long as it is pure to your beliefs.
Among those:
You can't just be America First. You have to be America Only.
You must be Christian. And by that I mean the right kind of Christian (I'll let them figure it out.)
You have to focus only on those things they want, up front, right now, and all the time. Doing other things, getting other things done really irritates them. Especially if it involves other nations.
You are correct.
The purity test is being applied by the Daily Wire Israel First Republicans. They are the ones that are calling for deplatforming and censorship.
You don't get to call MAGA supporters anti-semites and just ignore them anymore.
You will adjust and deal with people you disagree with in good faith or you will be ignored.
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