For a contrasting opinion, here's Ben Shapiro savaging Tucker Carlson for platforming Nick Fuentes:
Some of those clips Ben plays of Fuentes are so over-the-top that I wondered if Fuentes fancied himself a comedian in the Andrew Dice Clay mode. I had an interesting discussion with Grok about that. You can read it here. Highlight:
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1 – 200 of 220 Newer› Newest»Tucker isn't being "savaged" for "platforming" Nick Fuentes, he's being saved for not acting like an interviewer and challenging the Nazi piece of shit for his psychotic ravings.
Stewart made it possible to other people for thought crimes
Yes tucker is being way too lenient with the doof fuentes
Grok himself (apologies in advance, I don't really know any of these AI's preferred pronouns) seems to be taking his name quite literally: he groks (or imagines that he groks) people's innermost thoughts and motivations. And here I thought the thing to worry about was AI merely matching human mental capacity. Mind-reading, that's, like superhuman, man.
Get government out of everybody's life and this problem mostly goes away.
"I've got people in my family that are to the right of Attila the Hun."
"Your problems aren't as intractable as guys like John Leibowitz have made you believe, and if you had more people to the right of me you might solve some of them." - The Scourge O' God (allegedly)
Oh Noes abound. So many dangerous ideas out there, and people don't know how to discern what is dangerous and what is approved. They must be protected from harming themselves.
Pathetic, the people that have been granted microphone privileges in our modern world.
It seems to me to be true that B. Shapiro has quite a large button to be pressed about antisemitism/anti-Zionism. But he is generally consistent on the subject of free speech - generally. Maybe he's a little quicker to interpret the ravings of an antisemite as amounting to a proximate threat than if the ravings came from, say, an anti-Trumpist.
I'll have to listen to these clips to form an opinion on this example. But in my limited exposure to the Independent Tucker Carlson (and to be fair, he seemed pretty far along this road when he was still with Fox), he isn't as open an interviewer as Joe Rogan is, following the interviewee wherever the conversation leads.
Actually I'm glad shapiro, Randy Fine, Erick Erickson, Mark Levin etc. are all going bat-shit crazy over Tucker talking to Nick Fuentes.
Remember all these people were A-OK with Hillary getting elected in 2016. Shapiro kept attacking Trump all the way through 2017, when he suddenly flipped and became a mild supporter.
And all these people were attacking Charlie Kirk for wanting candance owens or Tucker at some TPUSA conference that was to be held in November/October.
These people want to Gatekeep and censor those on the Right. And they would rather the Right lose, than give a voice to those who don't follow the partyline on Israel or wars in the Middle east. OR even raise questions about the ADL.
The idea that people should watch the Tucker-Fuentes dialogue and make up their own minds, makes them hysterical. "Why, people might not think what I don't like!"
John Stewart said…
"I've got people in my family that are to the right of Attila the Hun.”
Why do some people use Attila the Hun as some type of right wing exemplar? His policies fit in with his milieu, and do not map well to the modern left-right dichotomy. Many of his characteristics can be found on both the left and the right.
Though he did like big government and increased taxes. Plus, he was fond of taking over cities and destroying them.
He is still being stupid that doesnt obviate the previous efforts on 2021-2025
Oh, and the reason I haven't listened to them yet is because I - like millions of others - have so far successfully avoided the execrable Nick Fuentes, and I'll have to steel myself for the experience and I have physical therapy today that also requires steeling myself.
is platforming different <> same as pedestalizing?
Like abby phillips hes probably making that up
The Neo-cons are the cancer on the Right. They prevent us from focusing on the 90 percent of issues that unite us. Instead we're constantly being derailed into these hysterical censorship fights and their attacks on someone for not being politically correct. Shaprio, Erickson, etc. are in fact the PC enforcers for the Left. They do their job for them.
That's why shapiro was never banned from Youtube or twitter, even when other Rightwingers were (even Trump!). Because Shapiro isn't a conservative. If he was he'd have supported Trump in 2016. Same with Levin and Erickson.
As pleasant as an enema with no upside
Fuentes is funny and edgy. Too edgy. He's limbaugh without the guardrails. He was banned and censored by the Israel-firster types when he was 18 and it scarred him. He was put on a TSA "no-fly" list. Some leftist tried to murder him. Even today, he can't post on Youtube.
His stuff on women and feminism is just entertainment. But I think he's truly "america first". Tucker pushed back on him, and made it clear he's against some of Fuentes more extreme views. But did he get any credit for that? LOL!
"Plus, he was fond of taking over cities and destroying them."
Dear Attila,
Roses are red
Return from the abyss
I'm fond of your "taking over cities and destroying them"
We could really use some of this
Erickson i have had no time for, Levin is a voice worth hearing most of the time i know outrage!! Always has to be at eleventy
Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes are cut from the same cloth. They are both inexperienced Flatlanders who have only ever made a living based on spewing there silly little political opinions to a vast audience of morons.
There is no real comparison here because both Jon Stewart and Joe Rogan are very mainstream figures from popular culture.
Rocco is right- using Attila the Hun isn't very informative. Stewart should have said, for example, to the right of Pinochet or Franco.
Tucker's structural problem is people coming to him in Maine. They're not going in order to get roughed up. From his point of view, it would be an offense against hospitality.
Rocco, you make good points about the use of Attila the Hun as some right-wing bogeyman.
I'll wager Stewart wanted to use ol' reliable Hitler, but didn't want to tar his uncle with that.
Certainly bass and co would seem to hunists
Is everyone talking an extra round of stupid pills
I believe that the phrase "to the right of Atilla the Hun" is from the song "The lady's got potential" from the musical Evita.
The certain subset of the right are taking a page from the George Floyd storybook of politics and smearing anyone who ever mildly objects to the United States dog being wagged by the Israeli tail as anti-semetic.
If we actually had a free country with a media that wasn't dominated by the Corporate Leftist/Globalists, Fuentes would have a Radio show and it would be very popular.
Anyway, this is what happens when you have extreme censorship and "stray 1 mm from the party line and you're out" people in charge of the media. Fuentes probably could have been persuaded to dial it back and be more reasonable. He could have been handled. But they cancelled him, so he said " Fuck it then". And he still has an audience.
No hes dumb as a stump, Trump tried to get him to see the light
BTW, I'm not interested in what Jon Stewart says. He's looking at everything from a "whats good for the Left?" Point of view.
To the right of Atilla the Hun means somewhere between George HW Bush and Dan Quayle.
I remember the time Johnny Carson in his monologue joked that Ronald Reagan "was to the right of Darth Vader."
"was to the right of Darth Vader."
Attila was the first person to 'alter a deal' and the Romans 'prayed he didn't alter it any further'.
Wilbur, he might have wanted to say Hitler but that's not a particularly good comparison to 'right wing' for many issues. Lots of very reasonable people are to the right of Hitler on economic issues and the appropriate influence of government on society, for examples.
Levin has disappointed me. I thought he learned from his trashing of Trump in 2015-2016. But no, he hasn't. He's become even more hysterical. More angry. More of an Israel-firster and Jewish supremacist. Whenever what's good for Conservatism clashes with what's good for Israel or the ADL, he chooses the latter.
The over-the-top rhetoric and hysteria just becomes unbearable. Especially when its literally about nothing.
Then he sacked rome (should have checked the fine print)
She's got Candace Owens eyes...
https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/11/03/joe-scarborough-defends-trump-epstein-n2421154#google_vignette
Tucker Qatarlson
The thing about Joe Rogan just shows how insane and fascist the left is. They all hate Rogan now. Why? Because he interviewed Trump. Wait, didn't he ask also Harris to do an interview? Didn't she set up all these conditions that made that impossible?
Well yes. But that's irrelevant. To the Left the only thing that matters is that Rogan is not 100 percent under their control. SO, he's the enemy.
narciso said, "(should have checked the fine print)"
The fine print (and a woman...) was precisely the cause.
- Be born-to-purple elite Roman noblewoman from prominent family
- Your brother is the actual Emperor
- Have legendary promiscuity that puts even Julia the Elder to shame
- Use your sexuality and promiscuity to advance your personal interests
- Your gens finally have enough of this and order you to go to a convent
- Bring you back after you agree to “honor your duties to the Valentinianic Dynasty”
- Honoring your duties turns out to be marrying a Senator…what a tearjerker!
- “Oh hell nah I’m not marrying some crinkled orator!” – You
- Write letter to Attila the Hun complete with ring asking for barbarian assistance
- Letter pledges either your love for barbarian OR barbarian interprets it that way
- That Hun that makes you tingle intends to “claim what’s rightfully his”, to include half of Western Empire as dowry
- Your barbarian-beau decides to invade to rescue you, but also pretext for territorial expansion?
- You flee your Scourge O’ God boyfriend’s army with your family and die in obscurity married to someone who isn’t a senator and isn’t Attila, unencumbered by the consequences of your actions
- John of Antioch writes of you, “And so Honoria was freed from her danger at this time”…congratulations!
- Your selfishness and rebellion is the tiny snowball-turned-avalanche that starts the physical disintegration of 1000 years of stability, wealth, and power in the Western hemisphere
- The West will not recover for 1000 more years and history conveniently forgets about you and your role in the Fall of Rome
- And then everyone clapped...
Rogan voted for bernie after he had gabbard on 9 times
A little too much inbreeding well nearly 500 years was a good run
Shapiro made a point of saying he was NOT for deplatforming Fuentes, or anybody else. But he is also not for fluffing up awful people with awful ideas. Tucker will do what Tucker will do. Shapiro's point is that when you prop up awful people, you will and should hear about it. And the fact that you hear about it is not deplatforming.
And Tucker seems not to care. He's gathering more and more awful people to give hugs and air time. To give the non-credible some credibility.
As for Jon Stewart, he is right on this. But he is also the one who made his living at ripping up those on the right for a waiting, salivating audience on the left. And I have to say, even as a man on the right, he was hilarious much of the time. But he has to know he became a go-to part of that noise keeping us constantly split apart.
At this point, when we have state Governors flouting the US Government, we're in it way deeper than our uncle at a holiday dinner.
The Attila the Hun thing has been around for a long time. It's half-joke, half-cliche. The meaning seems to be that the right is associated with ancient times and absolute rulers and wants to burn everything down, but people use the line without thinking much about it. Some rightists jestingly even apply it to themselves. Edward R. Murrow said Joe McCarthy was "to the right of Louis XIV," which didn't make much sense either, but then, Murrow wasn't the sage and hero he's been made out to be.
I don't get the Qatar thing. Are they friends or enemies? Four of Netanyahu's close staffers are under investigation for taking payoffs from Qatar. So maybe they and Carlson are in good -- or bad -- company together.
"But he has to know he became a go-to part of that noise keeping us constantly split apart."
Nothing changing his name again can't absolve he's sure.
Like scorpions you need to watch them they are part of the peace deal but they have supported hamas in the past as well as the taliban
If you want to know more about how Ben Shapiro views things, and what he considers important, here's his recent interview with "J-TV the Global Jewish Channel".
He "calls out" the JD vance, the Vice-President of the USA, and Meygan Kelly for their "silence" on Tucker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05K_TL80wj4
Because who talks to Tucker Carlson is the most important thing in the world - to Ben Shapiro.
Narrator: Jon Stewart does not have relatives who are to the right of Atilla the Hun.
Jon Stewart taught a generation that snark is an argument, that you can prove someone wrong by making a face after quoting them. The world would be a better place if he had never been born.
Lazurus beat me to the "Right of Louis XIV" trope. That was the current quip when I was an undergrad back in the early '70s. (1970's)
All I want to know about influencers or thought-leaders is their attitude to Muzziedom. Right and Left are of no use in judging, in that regard.
Jamie said...I - like millions of others - have so far successfully avoided the execrable Nick Fuentes,
I barely know who Tucker Carlson is. I'm supposed to know who Nick Fuentes is too? Something about Nazis and a surprising position on who the good guys were. That's as far as it goes for me with either of them.
I'm in the Atlanta market and have worked in media here. I know the stations and how they are sponsored.
Some months ago, Erickson began constantly pushing AFP, the Koch Foundations' open-borders, full drug legalization, empty the prisons, astroturf operation that destroyed the TEA Party. Now Koch Foundations openly partner with Soros. They used to do it behind closed doors. I know because I worked for them until I saw what they were up to. I know what their national head of organizing, Slade O'Brien, really thinks of TEA Party members. The entire operation is stealth Bush Family staffers.
So Erickson is now also a Koch/Soros shill. Don't let AFP or any of these people near your groups. They are lying to you. Especially don't take any money from them or signing on to their deceptive legislative agendas, which require signing a non-disclosure. They will send their lawyers to your house to threaten you with a lawsuit if you say one negative thing about them, ever. I lucked out as a subcontractor to a subcontractor and was never given the form to fill out.
Jay Jones(D) said he wanted to see his opponent and his opponent's little children - slaughtered.
Just thought I'd toss that in the mix.
That thin line between clever and stupid (spoiler its not clever)
Howard said:
"Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes are cut from the same cloth. "
No.
"Is everyone talking an extra round of stupid pills."
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just taking my normal dose of stupid pills. Thanks for asking.
Trying to make everybody think and believe a certain way. Like that hasn't been tried before. The logic underpinning the worse atrocities in humankind. Mind you, these are the people who claim to be "on the right side of history".
Btw. Accepting how people are, not for how we wish them to be, is one of the principle tenets of recovery from addiction.
Let go Luke.
This is my first exposure to Fuentes. He is truly despicable. I was a huge tucker fan up to when he got cancelled by Fox, and followed his podcast for a while, but he truly has become an asshole.
This Atilla fella sounds like a righteous dude.
Likely believes in small government and the Bill of Rights.
From what I've heard, our government includes Hitler, Atilla, Spartacus, and Pocahontas. That's an eclectic crew, and shows how open-minded the American voters are.
Stewart is yesterday's news with an audience of 850K old hippies and just 100K of middle aged and younger folk. Kill Tony, the once a week open mic comedy show hosted by Tony Hincliffe at Joe Rogan's theater, has a bigger audience, never mind Rogan himself.
BTW. Don't fall for the narratives. People do vote with their feet
Choosing to have someone on your show is not endorsing that person, but it still might show poor judgment and use of your time. Choosing not to have someone on your show is not "censorship" or "deplatforming." It's just exercising judgment. Fuentes still has free speech and can set up his own platform or shout on a street corner.
OTOH, I have never met anyone who knows anything about Nick Fuentes beyond maybe recognizing his name. He is not "splintering the right," except in Ben Shapiro's head. I only heard of his beliefs in depth recently, and I'm up to date on political media. He's not leaving a footprint. The Right is not racist or anti-semitic. Tim Maguire is right: these people come along; you hear about them, maybe even encounter them on a show or read a quote, and then you dismiss them and go on with your day. They're not powerful forces within any movement. They're not ANTIFA or BLM.
Greg The Class Traitor said...
Tucker isn't being "savaged" for "platforming" Nick Fuentes, he's being saved for not acting like an interviewer and challenging the Nazi piece of shit for his psychotic ravings.
Could have ended the thread right there.
It's one thing to have a discussion with Fuentes. I think Trump actually had dinner with Kanye West, who brought Fuentes along. Trump had no idea who Fuentes was.
Fuentes is a very boring white racist. He's the all-too-predictable result of a liberal university culture that has been demonizing "white males" for decades. Fuentes is the Ta-Nehisi Coates of the right. Different skin color, same shit ideology.
The problem with Tucker Carlson now is that he thinks Fuentes is interesting. Holy shit, he's a boring and very dumb guy.
If I had any kind of conversation with NIck Fuentes, the very first thing I would do is mock how brown he is. "You're a brown M&M. You should sell brownies for the Brownies. You can't even hang out at the swimming pool in the summer, you'll turn so brown the Klan will kick you out." That's the first thing you do, point out to the universe that he's a walking violation of the one-drop rule.
Then I'd call him an atheist. He is reducing all of humanity to breeds of dogs. He's denying that we have free will. And he's denying that all human beings are children of God. And I'd say that he, like all other racists, is anti-Christ.
And then I'd take a breath, probably. But holy shit, is he a dumb thinker. This is a failed ideology from 100 years ago! It's like bragging about your Communism.
Tucker Carlson used to be a very interesting journalist. He's done a lot of wonderful work. And now he's talking to sub-100 IQ celebrities famous for their alleged whiteness. Holy shit. And Carlson says the people he hates the most are Christian Zionists. Like Ronald Reagan? Like your father? What the fuck bug flew up your ass to make you an anti-Semitic nitwit?
I suspected that about erickson about 15 years ago but i wasnt sure with the whole grapevine scheme that went sideways
Saint Croix 1:49 - excellent points.
Kanye West, too - is a very dumb guy.
Like that spencer character who proved his worthlessness around charlottesvile
Take a victory lap around fordow and the peace settlement i had reservations about the former and the latter is a work in progress
https://www.theblaze.com/news/kevin-farmer-arrest-burglary-candidate?utm_source=theblaze-
Quote from an earlier post.
"You have to watch out for being idolized too much. It can very quickly go from that to, ‘I thought you were God and...'"
"'... you didn’t solve my problem, you betrayed everything you stand for,' which was actually not everything you stood for, it was something they decided you stood for."
Let's no outsource our thinking.
Of course, RCOCEAN has issues with Shapiro an observant Jew.
BTW, conservatives seem to have one ability that is missing from leftists - they are willing and able to disagree with each other. Imagine that.
thanks Peachy
It occurs to me that Carlson wanted to interview Fuentes because he's a segregationist now.
Fuentes wants to segregate blacks from whites, while Carlson wants to segregate Jews from Christians.
Maybe some OCD madness? Check your pills.
But the Old Testament is a pillar to the New
I think Tucker just bumped his head...
really hard.
"For a contrasting opinion" How so?
Grok is correct about Fuentes. Just as I’ve been saying, this guy wants to take over conservatism and form some sort of new cult of young men.
"I've got people in my family to the right of Atilla the Hun," said John Stewart.
Before contrasting Stewart and Shapiro, shouldn't we ask ourselves whether Stewart knows shit from Shinola? If he uses Atilla as a exemplar of modern Western political philosophy, I conclude he does not.
What was Atilla known for? Not much except rapine, pillage, and arson. Atilla's followers burned anything they couldn't rape or abscond with, at least that's what the sources tell us. They were the enemy of Greco-Roman civilization. I haven't noticed any similar tendences in most Americans, at least not lately. The George Floyd riots of 2020 came close. However, those Huns were creatures of the left by their own admission. If they weren't lying, then most Americans are considerably to the right of Atilla the Hun, including John Stewart. Looking back as far as the French Revolution, the left have been distinctly more Hunnish in their methods than their antagonists. Of course, it's possible my perception of those nomadic steppe peoples united under Atilla's bison skull standard is completely ass-backwards. Perhaps they plundered Europe in the name of laissez-faire capitalism and lawful self-reliance. I don't know, maybe; though it seems unlikely.
Just so I know where to place myself on the left-right spectrum, where does Genghis Khan sit relative to Attila?
Young American men don't need anyone's help Inag, least of all Fuentes. It's happening regardless. Young American men don't need someone to tell them what they already know, that female political preferences have royally screwed this country and they're going to begin un-screwing it - maybe with a little Hunnish flair - and not a moment too soon.
There's an old African proverb that "a child treated coldly by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth", as if so many millions of pissed-off nomads would need anyone's permission.
El no sabe nada (he knows nothing, nothing)
He was a 4th rate comic in the 90s well perhaps 3rd
“Young American men don't need anyone's help Inag, least of all Fuentes.”
No kidding.
Maybe Stewie's perceptions were warped by childhood TV habits. I mean, what could be more rightwing than the Beaver getting a "talking to" in Ward Cleaver's paneled den, or more terrifying? Ward was always on the raging verge of raping the Beav or crucifying Eddie Haskell -- but in a nice way. Though strict in his disciplinary methods, Hetman Cleaver wanted his children get ahead in the classically conservative manner.
“Young American men don't need someone to tell them what they already know, that female political preferences have royally screwed this country…”
Also, it seems that there is such a thing as a married incel.
Inag? Is that a Freudian slip, or what?
One is reminded that snl had a skit about an atilla series with mark harmon about 20 years later there was one
Self-evident evidence is seldom self-aware, even when it's the peoples' first exhibit, Quaestor.
With gerald butler
“Self-evident evidence is seldom self-aware, even when it's the peoples' first exhibit…”
That goes for married incels too.
Saint Croix said...
If I had any kind of conversation with NIck Fuentes, the very first thing I would do is mock how brown he is. "You're a brown M&M. You should sell brownies for the Brownies. You can't even hang out at the swimming pool in the summer, you'll turn so brown the Klan will kick you out." That's the first thing you do, point out to the universe that he's a walking violation of the one-drop rule.
It is interesting to see someone like this speak about things with such authority and Saint Croix is clearly completely ignorant of what Fuentes actually says himself.
You should stop being a fool that listens to what other people say about what other people say.
This whole thread is a bunch of people listening to retards like Inga say what Nick Fuentes believes.
You are all a bunch of shut in intellectual cowards.
"Just so I know where to place myself on the left-right spectrum, where does Genghis Khan sit relative to Attila?"
When the the Mongol empire held sway over Asia, it was said a lone virgin could carry a bag of gold from Samarkand to the Pacific shore in perfect safety, so in one sense at least, let's rate Temüjin to the right of Governor Newsome, who can't even say that about Sacramento.
I don’t know a lot about Nick Fuentes, but the above clips reveal him to be a foul-mouthed young punk. I will not waste any time viewing him in the future. AA thanks for the Shapiro video. I didn’t need to watch it all.
Why is Attila considered right wing?
Of course Achilles is on board with Fuentes and the Groypers, hahahahaha, who could’ve guessed? Another married incel.
chuck said, "Why is Attila considered right wing?"
"Right wing" is anything not completely converged by hyper-femininity. Try it out, you'll see it really works.
Oprah interviewed grand wizards and klansmen back when. They were offered civility and a platform on her show. Feel free to cancel Oprah…
The main problem with Fuentes is he is Catholic and his world view is informed from a catholic perspective. He thus tends towards centralized forms of government.
The United States is a protestant nation and our Constitution will only serve a Protestant Christian People. No other religion will work with the individual freedoms given to us by the bill of rights. Especially not secularists. They just do not have the moral character to be trusted. As a Catholic Fuentes is just wrong.
His views on race are informed from observation of the results of unassimilated minorities.
My main problem with him is he focuses too much on the race and too little on the culture. White people with college degrees in worthless majors are the real problem in this country. They are the ones pulling the actual strings.
The illegal immigrants are generally just people who want a better life and grew up in low trust societies. They aren't the real problem.
Inga said...
Of course Achilles is on board with Fuentes and the Groypers, hahahahaha, who could’ve guessed? Another married incel
Inga is a retard. She cannot read above a 1st grade level so she makes things up.
Inga couldn't connect 3 words in any actual post or article. That is why she cuts and pastes what other slightly more intelligent people say.
No hes just an idiot
Also geraldo (just for good measure)
Attila was not right-wing, not libertarian.
Humperdink said...
I don’t know a lot about Nick Fuentes, but the above clips reveal him to be a foul-mouthed young punk. I will not waste any time viewing him in the future. AA thanks for the Shapiro video. I didn’t need to watch it all.
You are a member of the tribe. The tribe accepts your signals of belonging. Keep your mind clear of impure thoughts. You wouldn't want to see anything that might make you a heretic.
“The United States is a protestant nation and our Constitution will only serve a Protestant Christian People. No other religion will work with the individual freedoms given to us by the bill of rights. Especially not secularists. They just do not have the moral character to be trusted. As a Catholic Fuentes is just wrong.”
Achilles is trying to start a Protestant branch of Groyperism. No Catholics allowed! Achilles, unfortunately for him, has no personal charisma, as vile as Fuentes is, he is charismatic and gets followers. I doubt many would follow Achilles.
Fuentes is authoritarian? Supports redistributive change? A Diversitist? Entertains abortive ideation?
n.n said...
Attila was not right-wing, not libertarian.
John Stewart was just catering to his tribe.
Really no different from what people are doing on this board.
Most people are just completely unable to think about politics outside of their tribal point of view. They have to signal their belonging to the tribe. They cannot think for themselves.
They are so afraid of retards like Inga calling them names that they have to signal their hatred of people like Fuentes and they have to declare they will never listen to such a heretic or consider anything he might say.
It is boring and stupid. Not quite as stupid as Inga, but they lower themselves to her level because they are afraid of her.
Is he male sex, masculine gender? Transgender (e.g. homosexual, simulant)? A left-wing ideological bent, perhaps.
n.n said, "Attila was not right-wing"
Yes, Attila was not "hyper-feminized". Honoria was just a cover to grab Roman lands.
Attila didn't need a taste of it
Cuz you know he didn't love it
♫It ain't no funs if the Huns can't have none♫
"I'm in love with Attila the Hun, Attila the Hun, Attila the Hun
We'll pillage a village and rape everyone,
I'm in love with Attila the Hun."
Too bad the name is pronounced AT-till-a, and not At-TILL-a.
I view a context-agnostic political spectrum from least to most authority.
"So Erickson is now also a Koch/Soros shill. "
Thanks for the info. My first suspicion about Erickson came when he started attacking Sarah Palin - hard in 2010. The 2nd problem came when he started making vulgar gross comments about Palin and other women. Then making faux-Christian apologies for "losing his temper" or something. When someone does that ONCE it may be sincere, when they do it twice or three times, its an act.
The final straw came when he disinvited Trump from his 2015 Redstate summitt or whatever and said, get this, "he didn't like Trump's comments about women (!)". Next thing y'know he's A-OK with "true conservative" Hillary getting elected because Trump was so horrible.
Oh yeah, and I'll never forget this obese sweaty little asshole telling us in a "tough guy" voice that all the J6ers should have been "shot down like dogs".
Inga said...
Achilles is trying to start a Protestant branch of Groyperism. No Catholics allowed! Achilles, unfortunately for him, has no personal charisma, as vile as Fuentes is, he is charismatic and gets followers. I doubt many would follow Achilles.
Do you challenge the fact that the United States was founded a Protestant Christian nation?
Do you accept the evils that have resulted from secularism every time it imposes itself on a nation?
I know Inga thinks this is some sort of gotcha and with the rest of the "conservative" intellectual cowards on this board it would work.
At a fundamental level the United States has been the best country in the world on a moral level because we are founded on a Protestant Religious ethic. What you are going to see over the next 10-20 years is that Christian Nationalism will become the dominant force in domestic politics because the majority of Americans can look at history and realize that our country and our moral and legal system is superior to every other country in the world because we reject the moral nihilism of shitheads like Inga who support censorship and murder of political opponents.
"Right wing" is anything not completely converged by hyper-femininity.
This wording is rather confusing to me. Did you mean to say, "Right wing is anything not completely congruent with hyper-feminism" ?
Femininity is far from my thoughts when I gaze upon the wreckage left by the left-wing cultural juggernaut.
Jay jones joined spanberger it means she endorses the murder of her opponents (is that how this. Works)
“They are so afraid of retards like Inga calling them names…”
Achilles, one of your many problems is that you can’t get out of your OWN head. You are not observant of the way commenters here behave, even after commenting here for several years. You think commenters are afraid of me calling them names? No, that’s ridiculous and you’re selling the commenters of the Althouse blog short. As for calling names, how out of touch are you with what comes out of your own mouth?
I’m beginning to see commenters here distancing themselves from your radicalism. It makes me happy to see that. Achilles, you can rant and rave on Althouse about your vision for America, but you are not a Nick Fuentes, you are nothing more than an angry, disturbed, confused man. Your opinions aren’t resonating with many here, maybe you should try a YouTube channel?
YouTube has offered me some Dice recently. Two thoughts. One, there always seem to be a lot of laughing women in the audience. Two, he says his girlfriend complains, paraphrasing: you want me to go down on you, but you won't go down on me. Dice: Give me a break, it's like a forest down there. Lo and behold, from what I can gather, it's quite common now for women to make sure they have little pubic hair. To please men, somewhat contrary to waves of feminism? To maximize female orgasm, aligning with feminism?
The problem is not women, the female sex, the feminine gender. It is feminism, but also masculinism, and other class-disordered ideologies.
“Also, it seems that there is such a thing as a married incel.”
But the thing Igna’s thinking is only the plight
of the Low-T of high- heeled males
On the Left
h/t Steve Winwood / Jim Capaldi
"Dice's act- hurt feelings and norms
Fuentes' act- builds armies"
"builds armies"...Oh FFS, Grok is such a libtard ninny. Shut the fuck up, Grok, and go have a cry.
BTW, if you look on Youtube, Tucker-Fuentes has 5 million views. Ben Shapiro has 161 thousand.
Leftists are known to wield liberal license to entertain abortive ideation for political progress and other purposes. To relieve a "burden". A twilight faith, a Pro-Choice religion. Queer (i.e. divergent), but not necessarily weird (i.e. fate), sisters.
Andrew Dice Clay didn't wear well. A one trick pony. Aey...
Talk about a has-been. Saw him on Rogan, and thought Joe was interviewing an old guy from H&R Block.
"I believe that the phrase "to the right of Atilla the Hun" is from the song "The lady's got potential" from the musical Evita."
I'm seeing this, at Grok: "The concept predates the exact wording, drawing from phrases like "somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan" (referring to the 13th-century Mongol conqueror). The earliest documented variant appeared in a November 1969 Kansas City Star article, where U.S. Congressman Allard K. Lowenstein (D-NY) criticized Mississippi politicians on the House Rules Committee as holding positions "somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun." This used Attila as a benchmark for reactionary obstructionism, likely as a punchier, more "barbaric" alternative to Genghis Khan for humor and alliteration. In 1976, Andrew Lloyd Webber's Evita (concept album) described Juan Perón's military group as "slightly to the right of Attila the Hun," cementing it in pop culture as a quip for authoritarian right-wingers."
Stewart saw the hamas mobs attacking jewish students and well crickets
Atilla the Hun isn't really known for mass murder Ghengis Kahn is.
@Hassayamper, the word "converged" used in this context has been borrowed from another cultural context - that of networked/information systems - seen more commonly online and specifically refers to the tendency of certain ideas attaining cultural dominance through webs of relationships and hierarchy instead of merit.
A "converged" system is one that has been 'infected' and then used - like a virus - against both itself and as an R&D facility to gestate next-gen agents capable of 'converging' the next host.
In this context, academia, journalism, and many government institutions are 'converged' to name a few examples of many. If you hit the link to the Helen Andrews piece earlier in the thread, you'll get a better understanding of what I mean regarding the 'convergence' of hyper-feminism.
There's absolutely there there.
The authoritarian right-winger is right of far-left. Otherwise, it's an oxymoron of modern mythology.
Loved how Kerry pronounced Jhen-gis Kahn
A more correct description. The authoritarian right-winger is acutally the left of far-right. Whereas the libertarians are the far-right of the middle-left. And the Neocons complete the circle by being the center of the middle-right.
As opposed to the communists who are the far-right of the far-left. Hope that's clear.
Ben Shapiro unfortunately shills too hard for Israel hard-right Zionism. I don't. I'm not interested in Fuentes, but I'm no also longer interested in Shapiro.
Libertarians are probably closest to classical liberals
Ann Althouse said...
"I believe that the phrase "to the right of Atilla the Hun" is from the song "The lady's got potential" from the musical Evita."
I'm seeing this, at Grok: "The concept predates the exact wording, drawing from phrases like "somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan" (referring to the 13th-century Mongol conqueror). The earliest documented variant appeared in a November 1969 Kansas City Star article, where U.S. Congressman Allard K. Lowenstein (D-NY) criticized Mississippi politicians on the House Rules Committee as holding positions "somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun." This used Attila as a benchmark for reactionary obstructionism, likely as a punchier, more "barbaric" alternative to Genghis Khan for humor and alliteration. In 1976, Andrew Lloyd Webber's Evita (concept album) described Juan Perón's military group as "slightly to the right of Attila the Hun," cementing it in pop culture as a quip for authoritarian right-wingers."
The people who shaped our pop culture from the top down over the last 80 years since the end of WWII have used corporate media and the educational institutions to build an overton window and a political frame that defined all bad stuff as "right wing."
Red used to represent Democrats and Blue used to represent Republicans.
That switch was abrupt and it was put into effect by a very small number of people who owned corporate media and in obvious collusion.
People are starting to notice the patterns of centralized collusion to build the Overton Window and control what is OK to talk about. The "Conservatives" on this board are generally clapping trained seals who jump when they are told to jump. It is an older generation here. You are all conditioned.
What is interesting is that you are all too afraid to say the words Protestant Christian Nation. We obviously are. It will be better when we are more strongly a Protestant Christian Nation.
But you people don't even know why you are being told to ban Nick Fuentes from the public square. You don't really know what he is saying. You don't know what he gets right. You don't know why he is wrong.
They are trying to keep you from talking about the things that will make you realize that our Protestant Christian foundations as a country are not just important, but worth fighting for.
Fuentes should attract the left. and since the left are obsessed with him - that is a fact.
It is boring and stupid. Not quite as stupid as Inga, but they lower themselves to her level because they are afraid of her.
Oh, horseshit. Nobody here is afraid of Inga or what she thinks of them.
But since we're getting it wrong on Fuentes, why do you tell us what we're missing?
Achilles, it's admirable that you fail to see Nick Fuentes' brown skin and his Mexican family tree. You're about ready to sing, We Are the World (Except for Those Catholics).
Dave Chappelle, by the way, has some thoughts on the not-white white racist phenomenon.
I'm deleting my comment - it's too harsh on Achilles even though I entirely disagree with him here.
Not Illinois Resident said...
Ben Shapiro unfortunately shills too hard for Israel hard-right Zionism. I don't. I'm not interested in Fuentes, but I'm no also longer interested in Shapiro.
They are both right about some things and wrong about some things.
The problem with Shapiro is that he spent so much time trying to destroy other voices he did not agree with. Shapiro worked with Media Matters to attack Fuentes when Fuentes was 17 years old in high school. Shapiro got Fuentes put on the terrorist no fly list for a year. If you actually listen to what Fuentes has to say about the Jews it makes sense why he thinks the way he does.
There are numerous other people on the right that were attacked by Shapiro. There is an obvious effort with serious money and organization to destroy certain points of view on the right. The problem is that if you try to destroy everyone who participates in heresy eventually you end up with the current situation.
Daily Wire, Prager U, Mark Levin, Dave Rubin. That list keeps getting shorter and shorter as they lash out at more and more people. You still see people on this board who are still a part of the corporate right hive mind but that influence is fading.
Walsh and Knowles are maintaining neutrality but barely.
Owens, Tucker, Fuentes, Crowder, Trump, Vivek, Peterson, Loomer, Posobiec, Cernovich, Johnson etc. have all been attacked and burned at the proverbial stake for heresy.
The zionists have caused themselves some massive problems. I personally don't really disagree with what Israel is doing in the ME and I think Hamas should have all had their heads on pikes by now. But AIPAC is a real and serious issue.
But what I think doesn't really matter. The zionists have poisoned multiple generations of young conservatives against them and they really kinda deserve it on a couple different levels. They are in for a rough couple of decades.
Saint Croix said...
Achilles, it's admirable that you fail to see Nick Fuentes' brown skin and his Mexican family tree. You're about ready to sing, We Are the World (Except for Those Catholics).
Dave Chappelle, by the way, has some thoughts on the not-white white racist phenomenon.
Fuentes discusses his brown skin and Mexican family tree. He laughs about it and openly discusses his views on race which are not as simplistic as his enemies make them out to be.
He is wrong. You are are too lazy or afraid to find out why and address him honestly.
I don't care for Fuentes based on what little I know about him, but I hate the Shapiro-led pressure campaigns on Israel. I have come to the point where I don't really care very much what happens to Israel or whether it remains "Jewish" or whatever. I care in the same way I care about other countries, many of which are sadly being transformed. No special concern for Israel. The dispensationalist "Christian Zionists" are absolutely the stupid pawns of the pro-Israel lobby.
There are no moral claims to land. There are no "rights to exist." A territory is yours if you can take it and then keep it. Only then is it "yours." You are constantly laying a claim and defending it. That means you try to control who gets to live in your country. In doing so, you try to control the character of your country.
Constantinpole was Greek and Christian for more than a thousand years. It was the second most important apostolic see. Now it's Turkish and Muslim. The Byznantines surely had a "moral claim" to the land, and so do Christians in general -- but so what?
If Israel wants to remain Jewish, by all means, they should go for it. Israel, defend your country. But I'm not interested in tipping the scales so egregiously. If a country can't defend itself from invasion, or from being transformed demographically against its wishes, is it really a country?
Jim at said...
It is boring and stupid. Not quite as stupid as Inga, but they lower themselves to her level because they are afraid of her.
Oh, horseshit. Nobody here is afraid of Inga or what she thinks of them.
But since we're getting it wrong on Fuentes, why do you tell us what we're missing?
Cue the Jeopardy! theme song...
I really, really do not understand various alleged right wing people going against Israel and spouting anti-Jewish sentiment.
I understand the left... they worship Moloch, Ba'al, and the rest of the synonymns of Satan, so it makes sense they hate Jews.
But look, all three of the major Abrahamic religions conclude that God is Jewish. Jesus was a Jew, so Christians of any sect except the leftist ones that don't believe in the actual divinity of Christ have to conclude that Jesus was Jewish. For actual Jews... it was God who set up the Jewish faith and spoke to them first and pretty much the only people who God spoke to that weren't Jews were the ones before Abraham. If God's not Jewish, He certainly supports them.
And as for Islam: every single person Allah spoke to is Jewish, save Muhammed... and they allegedly revere all of the Jewish prophets.
So why would anyone on the right decide that it's ok to be against God's chosen people? Sure, I disagree with many of the things Israel does... but come on, it's plain that the Gathering of Israel is in full swing, as prophesied multiple times. Why get on the wrong side of that? And why start going after the people God has chosen? Seems ludicrous.
If you actually listen to what Fuentes has to say about the Jews it makes sense why he thinks the way he does.
Does it though? If B. Shapiro "got" Fuentes put on a watch list, that was one guy - one Jewish guy with some juice - who caused Fuentes grief. It is not a "makes sense" reason to "think the way he does*."
* The implication you yourself make here is that he hates Jews, so I'm going to go with that because there's no way on God's green earth I'm going to wade through the mire in search of his "real" views. But you seem to know them - you could save everyone a lot of time here by simply lining then out for us. We all know what AI says he thinks - apparently we're in need of a balanced view, so please! Do a commentariat a favor!
Could people stop being stupid for a while
"So why would anyone on the right decide that it's ok to be against God's chosen people? Sure, I disagree with many of the things Israel does... but come on, it's plain that the Gathering of Israel is in full swing, as prophesied multiple times. Why get on the wrong side of that? And why start going after the people God has chosen? Seems ludicrous."
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"So why would anyone on the right decide that it's ok to be against God's chosen people? Sure, I disagree with many of the things Israel does... but come on, it's plain that the Gathering of Israel is in full swing, as prophesied multiple times. Why get on the wrong side of that? And why start going after the people God has chosen? Seems ludicrous."
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Vance is a Mormon, this is a part of their belief system.
“The "gathering of Israel" is a prophetic concept of gathering scattered descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who are also known as Israel, back to God. For Jews, it is often associated with immigration to the modern state of Israel as a religious value. For The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is both a spiritual and a physical process that includes accepting the gospel and participating in missionary and temple work, and it is considered essential preparation for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.”
"If a country can't defend itself from invasion, or from being transformed demographically against its wishes, is it really a country?"
Finally, a sentiment a Hun can agree with wholeheartedly.
JD Vance is Catholic, Igna.
“JD Vance is Catholic, Igna.”
Maynard, dear heart, I am referring to Vance the commenter whose quote was in my comment, duh.
Achilles said of me: “ You are a member of the tribe. The tribe accepts your signals of belonging. Keep your mind clear of impure thoughts. You wouldn't want to see anything that might make you a heretic.”
If that means I am supporter of Israel, count me in! As an Evangelical Christian, Israel has my full-throated support. Unequivocal! Thanks for the accusation, I plead guilty.
"So why would anyone on the right decide that it's ok to be against God's chosen people? "
1) Lets Leave aside that most Jews in Israel are atheists or non-religious. And that the requirement to get into Israel is racial, not religious. The Government of Israel doesnt equal the Israel of the bible.
2) If you're a Chrisitan, the orthodox belief for 2000 years was that we are the chosen people. Not the Jews, who rejected the Son of man.
3) Of course, anyone can believe anything they wish. Anyone, no matter how ignorant or dumb, can pick up a bible and read it and come to whatever belief they want. No matter how crazy or untethered to Christian theology.
Imagine going back in time and telling the Crusaders, St Augustine or Christians in 1800, that we need to support anything any Jew does because they're "The chosen people". LOL.
In 152 comments, no one has mentioned Frank Rizzo, police commissioner and later mayor of Philadelphia? Wikipedia implies that it was in the former position (1967-71) that he said about some anti-police demonstrators, "when I'm finished with them, I'll make Attila the Hun look like a faggot". Am I the only one who remembers this? Plenty of other commenters are old enough. It's not quite the same slogan, of course, but close enough to seem a likely influence on the "to the right of" version.
Google Image search is too stupid or too lazy to find me the slightly-bowdlerized Jeff MacNelly cartoon showing Rizzo holding up a poster of 'Attila the Pansy'.
Speaking ideologically, the attitude of the "right" towards Jews and Israel is mixed. It does not help that the "right" in the US has gone through many blenders. The traditional elitist right does not really exist for one thing. The presence of many jews in influential positions in business and the arts and the bureaucracy complicates everything. You have a pro-and-anti semitic civil war inside every political tendency across the ideological spectrum, and you get haters who see jews among their enemies (left or right) and so draw (mostly wrong) conclusions.
In Europe it does still exist. The trad right was and is philo-semitic and pro-Israel. In Spain for instance, with very few jews, the expression of friendship or hatred for Israel varies predictably across the political spectrum, with the right wing Vox being very friendly, the centrist PP (Partido Popular) lukewarm, and the leftists (PSOE et al) very hostile.
The hatred of the left vs Israel btw is one of those Cold War "zombie memes", deliberately created by the USSR in the 1950s-60s when it was trying to curry favor with Arab/Muslim countries. Before that time the international left was extremely friendly to Israel, which was after all a socialist country.
I'm with Humperdink.
Ditto
The left are obsessed with this notion that certain Christians are rooting for some end times bullshit.
Meanwhile - leftist so-called Christians are all-in for abortion.
Abortion is their true god.
I think the late gore vidal really leaned in on that meme
I know very little of Shapiro’s opinions because I can’t listen to his voice for more than thirty seconds…
Both Shapiro and Fuentes are both pencil dick dweebs whom aren't smart enough to be geeks. Neither one has a single punch in their man card. Anybody following them is a douchenozzle.
No hezbollah howard
I like Ben Shapiro. I don't really follow him, but when I do listen - he sounds reasonable, measured and highly educated.
The Ben Shapiro link above - well worth watching.
I'll always back Israel to the hilt. And not because I think God wants it. Because I prefer civilization to barbarism.
The most Nick Fuentes I've ever watched is in Ben's video above. Thank you Ann and Ben - for enlightening me as to what a jack-tard loser-idiot-man Fuentes is. Yikes.
Is Fuentes serious? He is not even funny. LAME.
He seems more like a lefty plant... and really stupid people fall for it.
A little goes a long way like idocaine
"Inga couldn't connect 3 words in any actual post or article. That is why she cuts and pastes what other slightly more intelligent people say."
Give her a break. (D)Inga can't help it she gets moist over Einzatzgruppenfuhrer Graham Platner and his Totenkopf branded pectoraliSS. Naturally we would have expected the resident leftists like her and Kak/Richsockpuppet/paidActbluetroll, and Ronald psychoWard to condemn the nazis in their own, but they won't because national socialism in the midst (or any socialism for that matter) gets them just as hot as nazis above the midriffs.
Fuentes discusses his brown skin and Mexican family tree. He laughs about it and openly discusses his views on race which are not as simplistic as his enemies make them out to be.
Race is a stupid way to divide humanity. Race tells us almost nothing about individuals. It's not a helpful concept. There is no smart version of racism.
>i>You are are too lazy or afraid to find out why
It's racists who are lazy and afraid. Racists are the ones who pass judgments on millions of people they haven't met. Racists are the ones who have turned off their brains and rely on shallow and ridiculous criteria to judge people.
For you leftists out there - you might like it when Fuentes tells the MAGA movement "Fuck you" -at about 10:40 mark.
Actual Fuentes quotes:
Fuentes Calls Trump: "Fat, a joke,. Stupid".. then goes on to say---> "Populism is a big scam and the liberals were right."
then Ben goes on to say starting at the 11:32 mark---
"the left, by moving into the politics of anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-Male identetarianism created it's bizzarro mirror image."
"Fuentes = incoherent stew"
oho.
Well said @6:50pm, deepelemblues !
Tucker Carlson says Jews are a Brain Virus.
Asshole.
Agree, Iman at 7:15
Temu richard spencer
Tucker Carlson will launder your bad ideas. LOL.
btw - Included is a Nick Fuentes clip where Nick says he admires Stalin.
“He seems more like a lefty plant... and really stupid people fall for it.”
There are no lefties who fall for anything Fuentes has to say. It’s weak minded people on the right who have fallen for Fuentes. Also, now you say you see the light when it comes to Fuentes, why were you so fucking dumb about him before and all the weeks I’ve been warning you people?
Thank you, Iman and Peachy!
They're wankers, not really worth all the discussion.
IMHO.
Like spencer who ended up voting for biden
Inga - How would you know?
Fuentes is saying crap that you leftists agree with. Turns out - Fuentes HATES Trump. just like you do.
Inag - I've barely paid any attention to Fuentes. Why would I?
I've said as much many times. You're the one who goes on and on about him - as if he has some sort of influence over people. Now you are hilariously claiming Fuentes has NO influence on the left? You're on the left- and you cannot stop talking about him.
Fuentes is an obscure buffoon. You leftists are so desperate for a dig. Dig this - Fuentes is a creep and he likes and admires Stalin and he hates Trump.
Perfect.
If you're a Chrisitan, the orthodox belief for 2000 years was that we are the chosen people. Not the Jews, who rejected the Son of man.
All of humanity is filled with sinners, and we all reject Christ from time to time. That is why we ask forgiveness for our many sins.
In spiritual matters, it's always a good idea to find out what people think about Jesus. If they hate Jesus or are anti-Christ, they are in a very bad place. If they love Jesus, respect Jesus, read Jesus and try to figure out what he's saying, if they try to follow his lead, they are followers on the way to our Lord.
Jesus is not calling on you to hate the Jews. You need to stop doing that. You know it's a sin. I frankly think it's Satanic.
“Fuentes is saying crap that you leftists agree with.”
No he is not. He is saying stuff that racists and anti semites and misogynists agree with. Just to enlighten you, there are many Jewish Americans that are Democrats and liberals. Also there are may women who are Democrats and liberals. Fuentes is a vile disgusting incel misogynist that does not represent liberal politics.
btw- Inag - I am proud to be "Fucking dumb about Fuentes!"
Proud. The man is an incoherent Hitler-adoring buffoon and he took up zero space in my brain. yay me!
You brought that creep in here. You. Depart, Inga, and take Fuentes with you. ugh.
“…as if he has some sort of influence over people.”
Oh I see you’ve learned nothing at all from hearing directly what comes out of Fuentes mouth. He does have influence over people. He has Groypers who would do anything for him, even kill other people. How can you be so short sighted and stubbornly ignorant?
Inga - just watch the Shapiro video. Find out the other stuff Fuentes says. Again - He hates Trump and MAGA.
“btw- Inag - I am proud to be "Fucking dumb about Fuentes!"”
Then you are even dumber than I thought.
"He has Groypers"
OK... and the Groypers are on the march.
I will make sure to lock the doors.
Fuentes hates Trump just like you do, Inga. Be happy! You have a compatriot! You too can be one of his Groypers.
Fuentes is back to praising Trump, says he’s awesome.
Fuentes has been back and forth with his support of Trump.
All of Fuentes views are abhorrent. or incoherent. His statements are ridiculous and unserious. If this guy has "Followers" - They are probably as ridiculous as he is.
Meanwhile - Inga - you deny antifa/ antifa thuggery.
& Reality check, Inga - Joe biden has followers - and Joe biden had the power to actually destroy our county.
A big bigger deal than your dreaded boogaloo.
Do you even watch your links inga ?
The guy in your link states again that Fuentes stated recently that Trump is a fraud.
“Do you even watch your links inga ?
The guy in your link states again that Fuentes stated recently that Trump is a fraud.
Please stop being so dumb. As I said, Fuentes has gone back and forth with his support of Trump. I’m done trying to explain things to you, it’s like trying to explain something to a child.
I'll give you some credit, Inga. Some time ago - The stench of "lets repeal the 19th amendment" started showing up on the "right" . Now i know where it came from.
Inag - your link doesn't really prove your point. so - who is the dummy? oh yeah - you.
Michael said...
The certain subset of the right are taking a page from the George Floyd storybook of politics and smearing anyone who ever mildly objects to the United States dog being wagged by the Israeli tail as anti-semetic.
That's because only a brainless piece of shit would think of any of Israel's enemies as America's friends.
Whether or not Israel is America's ally, the reality of the matter is that Israel and America share the same enemies. We don't share them because they hate us for our support of Israel, we share them because all of Israel's enemies are wretched scum of the Earth that are enemies to all decent human beings.
Anyone who claims to be a conservative or MAGA American, who wants to side with Hamas, or Erdogan's Turkey, or the EU, or Qatar, or Iran, or the ICC, or the UN, is a lying sack of shit.
“ - your link doesn't really prove your point. so - who is the dummy? oh yeah - you.”
My link proves my point very well, but again…you’re too dumb…sigh.
Just here to nudge the count to an even 200. Carry on.
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