For a contrasting opinion, here's Ben Shapiro savaging Tucker Carlson for platforming Nick Fuentes:
Some of those clips Ben plays of Fuentes are so over-the-top that I wondered if Fuentes fancied himself a comedian in the Andrew Dice Clay mode. I had an interesting discussion with Grok about that. You can read it here. Highlight:
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 220 of 220"Jesus is not calling on you to hate the Jews. You need to stop doing that. You know it's a sin. I frankly think it's Satanic."
Where did you learn Christian theology? From the Rabbi the owns Pornhub? LOL. One of most bizzare things about being a Christian in 2025, is you have to listen to Atheists, Jews, and other non-believers lecture you about Chrisitianity.
Lecture a Jew about Judaism, while not being Jewish, and you'll be told to shut up and stop being ignorant.
Howard said...
Both Shapiro and Fuentes are both pencil dick dweebs whom aren't smart enough to be geeks. Neither one has a single punch in their man card. Anybody following them is a douchenozzle.
This is mostly right. But they are 2 different people in 2 different situations.
On the one hand Shapiro is a paid shill that was given millions of dollars by people but has a very tiny and dwindling number of actual supporters.
On the other hand millions of young men who are being trashed by society are following Fuentes. Nick Fuentes was attacked by Shapiro and most of the other paid shills in the conservative media and Fuentes and his followers have a bond of shared persecution.
The people on this board and the other head in the sand cuckservatives are completely unwilling to deal with the dark and gritty truths. Race matters. Nation matters. Laws matter. Israel has way too much influence on our politics. Jews like Shapiro had way too much influence on popular conservative media and now that is backfiring on them. We have people trying to start a war between the US and Russia.
If you stick your head in the sand and dismiss everyone that follows Shapiro and Fuentes without addressing their concerns and you shut off debate you are just driving everyone to civil war.
Shapiro not so much because nobody cares about him anymore.
But Fuentes is tapping into a generation of young white men who have been put in an impossible economic situation by greedy boomers and told they are all racist lazy shitheads by an education system populated by degenerate hateful Karens.
If you tell young white men they are racist lazy toxicly masculine shitheads long enough and you take away all of their opportunities to have a family and a life they will turn on you.
Fuentes is not the solution. But he is meeting the Groypers halfway. There are millions of men who want a safe country where they can get a job and have a family with a nice woman who wants to have children and not be called a lazy racist loser scumbag.
"Jamie said...
Oh, and the reason I haven't listened to them yet is because I - like millions of others - have so far successfully avoided the execrable Nick Fuentes, and I'll have to steel myself for the experience and I have physical therapy today that also requires steeling mysel"
So for the sake of ideological purity rather than listen and judge for yourself you'll self censor and pre-judge based on what other openly partisan voices have said.
"And Tucker seems not to care. He's gathering more and more awful people to give hugs and air time. To give the non-credible some credibility."
Maybe there's something to hearing from the people that no one else will give you the opportunity to hear from ?
I don't need to hear from the same mainstream voices that are on every other podcast and opinion show.
why were you so fucking dumb about him before and all the weeks I’ve been warning you people?
Because he means more to you than he does to us?
Re Fuentes hates trump - yeah there's plenty of clips about JD Vance not liking Trump. People's opinions at a point in time don't stay in status forever. Rational people change those opinions when they get more information or situations change.
I am just linking the future.
You don't have to watch this video or understand what Nick Fuentes is tapping into. It wont matter if you do or you don't. Most of you have no connection to younger generations and you don't seem to care.
Thomas Massie is a lot more popular than people think.
Groyper pumping on Instapundit Open Thread too. Identical talking points. Big push across all media.
The problem wasn’t having Fuentes on Carlson’s show, it was the softball questions, the failure to press Fuentes on his noxious opinions. We know that Carlson can do that, can interrogate guests when he wants to. He gave Senator Cruz a rough time just a few weeks ago. But Fuentes? Hell no, he’s just a bro with some harmless opinions, he should be welcomed into the conservative mainstream — that was the message Carlson was broadcasting, and I was happy to see the grownups pushing back. Just like William F. Buckley did many years ago when he essentially drove the anti-semites and conspiracy theorists out of the conservative movement.
“No enemies on the right?” To hell with that.
From the NY Post, talking about the chaos at the Heritage Foundation over its backing of Tucker Carlson...
“If we are labeled on the same side as Nick Fuentes, then we deserve to lose,” chimed in a fourth Heritage colleague, who later added: “Talking with some of the interns I think that there are a growing number of them who actually agree” with the views Fuentes espoused.
I repeat, 30+ years of the Ivy League demonizing white males has created anger and hostility in white males. It is as predictable as the sun. The leftists who did this are the people who are responsible for the rise of this dipshit child.
Recognize the humanity of all human beings, or fuck right off.
Where did you learn Christian theology? From the Rabbi the owns Pornhub? LOL.
You think it's Jesus who is calling on you to hate the Jews?
You want to make Christian arguments, cite Jesus, quote him, read him.
If you hate the Jews, you hate...
Jesus
his mom
his family
his followers
Moses
Elijiah
Abraham
all the books in the Old Testament
and most of the books in the New Testament
The big debate among Peter and the rest of the followers after the Ascension was not whether Jews could get to heaven, but whether anybody else could.
That's the Peter who is charge of the gates!
RCOCEAN II
You call yourself an orthodox Christian.
What is your opinion on Moses? And Elijah?
I am not getting a "Jesus is my rabbi" vibe from RCOCEAN II.
Fuentes seems to attract angry lost boys. I don't see any evidence that Fuentes is violent himself. Tho - Fuentes saying out loud that he admires Stalin and Hitler are deal killers for me ever taking the creep seriously. What a loser.
The Corrupt Mob-Walz left- build killers and assassins thru ANTIFA.
then deny it.
Cameron said...
"Jamie said...
"Oh, and the reason I haven't listened to them yet is because I - like millions of others - have so far successfully avoided the execrable Nick Fuentes, and I'll have to steel myself for the experience and I have physical therapy today that also requires steeling mysel"
So for the sake of ideological purity rather than listen and judge for yourself you'll self censor and pre-judge based on what other openly partisan voices have said."
You misinterpret Jamie and the sub set of Jamies. As in -couldn't care less. Like the Kardashian phenomenon my/ our lives are neither richer or poorer for not knowing who this is or caring. May they all go in peace without my intervention so that I can live a richer and fuller life. Amen.
I have a few questions for Jon myself.
Many of us do not care about Fuentes.
Why bother? He's a loser and a waste of time.
BTW - I predict Fuentes is a closet Democrat and he and his followers will shift left.
Except Jon Stewart does NOT "platform" his uncle. Perhaps he personally (and in the presence of a limited number of family members/friends) listens to and perhaps engages with his uncle. [Quick; someone check if he really has an uncle or if he's mysteriously referring to his father's cousin's friends' roommate he once met.]
Stewart hasn't given his uncle access to his millions(?) of viewers and allowed him to spout garbage unchecked.
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