November 7, 2025

"As for the Government’s suggestion that the President is harmed by not being able to impose a uniform definition of sex across various regulatory schemes..."

"... that assertion is just another species of the far-fetched contention that the President must be injured whenever he is prevented from doing as he wishes.... The Government also fails to explain why it needs a uniform definition of sex, much less why such a uniform definition needs to be imposed now such that it cannot await the outcome of this litigation...."

Writes Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson — joined by Justices Kagan and Sotomayor — dissenting in Trump v. Orr, which granted a stay of a district court’s preliminary injunction against a new Executive Branch policy that required all new passports to show the individual's "biological sex" (AKA "sex assigned at birth").

Jackson continues: "[E]ach of the plaintiffs credibly testified that they would experience significant anxiety and fear for their safety if required to use passports that reflect their sex assigned at birth rather than their gender identity. Absent an injunction, the plaintiffs and the classes of transgender Americans they represent are forced to make a difficult choice that no other Americans face: use gender-incongruent passports and risk harassment and bodily invasions, on the one hand, or avoid all activities (travel, opening a bank account, renting a car, starting a new job) that may require a passport, on the other. The harm to these individuals from having to make that choice—before their legal challenges have even been resolved—is palpable. The documented real-world harms to these plaintiffs obviously outweigh the Government’s unexplained (and inexplicable) interest in immediate implementation of the Passport Policy.... In my view, the Court’s failure to acknowledge the basic norms of equity jurisdiction... is an abdication of the Court’s duty to ensure that equitable standards apply equally to all litigants...."

97 comments:

narciso said...

She doesnt know what a woman is, so why are we listening

typingtalker said...

" ... they would experience significant anxiety and fear for their safety if required to use passports that reflect their sex assigned at birth ... "

Wouldn't "gender" be better than "sex" in this sentence?

rehajm said...

She didn’t get the Marshall McLuhan reference either…

The Vault Dweller said...

The three justices wonder what the harm is if the preliminary injunction is lifted, but I wonder what the harm is that justified the preliminary injunction in the first place? Does that underlying harm have to be irreparable? No one was denied passports correct? The passports simply had to list the person's sex which is a fact and one that can not be intellectually honestly denied.

rhhardin said...

That's what Coleridge mocked as "moral discoveries."

lgv said...

"[E]ach of the plaintiffs credibly testified that they would experience significant anxiety and fear for their safety"

So, experiencing anxiety is the standard for barring executive branch regulatory rules. I like the insertions of "credibly", but let's use the MSM approach used on Republicans: "The Plaintiffs, without evidence, claimed fear for their safety. Once again, anxiety and fear are the benchmarks of whether rules can be implemented. If so, compelling people to stop when pulled over by police should also be eliminated.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

As opposed to what. the 34 "genders" that Biden's XO specified? It's rather rich that Hillary changed the passport requirements in 2011, eliminating trans ID unless accompanied by a very specific doctor note, with no pushback from a "nationwide injunction judge." Or her party. Biden allowed the above-referenced "any gender you want" on passports with, again, no judge stepping in to say it was improper or demanding to know "why does Biden need to have 34 genders?"

But Trump. So it's (D)ifferent. Well the majority just showed the three loser ladies that deference to one Executive requires deference to the next too. "Injured." That freak has a lifetime appointment.

narciso said...

We are in the stupidest timeline

narciso said...

There was no trans in 2011, that was a obergefell leap frog

Breezy said...

It’s illegal to lie or not be truthful on government docs.

Goldenpause said...

I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts still contends that there are no Democrat judges or Republican judges in the face of an immense quantity of contrary information, including Justice Jackson’s latest screed.

Breezy said...

Trans people know they are trans.

narciso said...

Trans people are delusional

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

...but I wonder what the harm is that justified the preliminary injunction in the first place?

Funny how that topic is elided by their whining. Their was no harm shown to the district court judge because like most all the others she declared an injunction without bothering to hold a hearing and allow the administration to present their side. Like the majority said yesterday, they will keep vacating these stupid broad injunctions declared without jurisdiction or harm shown.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Once again, anxiety and fear are the benchmarks of whether rules can be implemented

Yet try finding a judge to say your strong feelings about, say paying illegals SNAP benefits contrary to the law, and see if YOU get a nationwide injunction. I feel very strongly that taxation is theft. Can I get an injunction?

Eeven to ask reveals the utter folly of the left's "arguments."

narciso said...

They only have fewlings

gilbar said...

here's a fun* thought!
imagine if there were 9 (or even 5) people like Ketanji on the court!
think about how Exciting our lives would be!

fun* "fun are the first three letters, in the word: funeral"

n.n said...

The same emotive problem exists when you call a fetus a baby and a Choice is made. Sex is established at conception. Gender refers to sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation): masculine and feminine. Trans indicates a state or process of divergence. The transgender spectrum is a performative social construct assigned after birth to reflect personal choice that is antagonistic to natural convention.

narciso said...

Like that chinese curse

n.n said...

The conflict and risk in context arises specifically from sims, not trans generally, where other incongruities may be present

Humperdink said...

gilbar said: “imagine if there were 9 (or even 5) people like Ketanji on the court!”

It’s only a matter of time. Just like the ChiComs, the Commies in the US take the long view. The traditions in our culture are being dismantled one brick at a time.

tim maguire said...

Justice Jackson can't understand the legal value of having consistent definitions for words?

Quelle surprise.

tim maguire said...

Breezy said...Trans people know they are trans.

Given that trans is a self-diagnosed condition, I have to wonder how else you think it might be.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I'm pretty sure there's an adequate remedy at law for hurt feelings.

Beasts of England said...

’The harm to these individuals from having to make that choice—before their legal challenges have even been resolved—is palpable.’

Harmful to them or their delusions?

john mosby said...

Humperdink: " The traditions in our culture are being dismantled one brick at a time."

All in all it's just a-/Nother prick and a ball. CC, JSM

bagoh20 said...

"[E]ach of the plaintiffs credibly testified that they would experience significant anxiety and fear for their safety"

Are we talking about Jews in NYC or conservatives on campus?

Zavier Onasses said...

"...why it needs a uniform definition of sex....:

Because lacking a stable and uniform definition, language and therefore written Law is not worth the vapor it is written with.

Z.O. My pronouns are: Your Grace / Your Grace / Your Grace's

n.n said...
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n.n said...

Anxiety is a choice. Safety concerns because of antagonistic confederates who entertain abortive ideation? That sandwich missile may contain a solid threat that cannot be discerned until the injury is realized.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

...definition of sex...

Ketanji said THAT phrase? Does she not know she is the source of the hearing quote denying knowledge of what "woman" means because she's "not a biologist?" What if Trump actually consulted a biologist before making that change?

Iman said...

Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson is often wrong, but never in doubt.

Christopher B said...

A physical description should be consistent with a person's physical anatomy. I may identify as a 6' 7" power forward but that doesn't mean I get to claim I'm that tall on documents that a required to reflect an accurate physical description.

Levi Starks said...

How about the enforcement of title 9 provisions?

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

According to the minority, a (definitionally subjective) experience of fear and anxiety by a delusional person is a legitimate reason ignore black letter law.
I can think of a few times in my life when that would have been a useful concept to have available.

Aggie said...

If I identify as Porky Pig, can I use his picture on my passport?

They should have tackled the question on the 'validity of pretending' from the outset, and it would have avoided all of this posturing. 'I'm not a biologist'. Stop it ! It offends our intelligence.

Marcus Bressler said...

What a effing idiot. Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), and Mitt Romney (Utah) all voted to confirm; no other Republicans did.

narciso said...

Jive turkey but yes

Wince said...
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Whiskeybum said...

Physical attributes on government IDs are a way to confirm the identity of the person bearing the document. If I have brown eyes, but I prefer to list them as blue or green on the ID, how does that not thwart the reason for listing the attribute in the first place?

tommyesq said...

One of the alleged harms was that someone who identifies as transgender was "sexually assaulted" by a TSA agent, but it fails to say that this alleged assault was due to his/her gender being disparate with the sex listed on his passport (and unless he/she ran out to get a new passport, it could not be thus, as an earlier-issued passport would have listed whatever sex the individual chose).

Wince said...

The "Progressive Ratchet Theory" in action?

Dissent: Beginning in 2021, the State Department allowed applicants to self-select the sex marker that matched their gender identity.

Majority: Nor are respondents likely to prevail in arguing that the State Department acted arbitrarily and capriciously by declining to depart from Presidential rules that Congress expressly required it to follow. See 22 U. S. C. §211a…


"Donald Trump has broken the progressive ratchet."
How does the ratchet work? It begins with small, unobjectionable, or perhaps even salutary steps, coupled with assurances that potential downsides or extreme outcomes will never come about. Then, over time, incremental moves are made in the same direction until the unreasonable policy that we’d been assured would never happen is entrenched reality.... Trump has yanked the other way so far on these ratchet issues that it’s not clear when or how the left can get them back to the status quo ante.

Althouse said...
Don't [Trump's] antagonists like to think everything he could do on his own with presidential power the next Democratic President can just undo? But not so long ago, they thought that what their Presidents had done could not be undone? That was the ratchet theory.

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/10/donald-trump-has-broken-progressive.html

john mosby said...

The law does take common English words and phrases and turns them into terms of art, which often do have different meanings in various contexts. Not perfect analogies, but:

‘Firearm’ in the federal gun laws means specific types of firearms, and sometimes just one piece of a firearm.

‘Minor’ can be a different age limit in different areas of the law. Voting vs age of consent vs age of criminal liability vs eligibility for your parents’ insurance.

I could see how, outside of the trans issue, ‘woman’ could be a term of art. Mostly having to do with where the age limit is. I’m sure the ‘violence against women act’ covers 15-year old girls, for example. Or laws about women’s’ health. Or sex discrimination laws covering clearly prepubescent females.

KBJ, having spent nearly her whole adult life in this Wonderland of words meaning exactly what the law wants them to mean, might legitimately have been thinking that there’s literally no single definition of a woman in US law.

And of course she also didn’t want to walk down the garden path the senator was pointing her to. CC, JSM

Original Mike said...

"The Government also fails to explain why it needs a uniform definition of sex"

It doesn't matter what's inside your head. A passport is used for identification. It therefore needs to describe your external appearance. It's as simple as that.

Jamie said...

It was well understood until recently that quite a high percentage of men suffering from gender dysphoria were not actually men suffering from gender dysphoria but rather men suffering from autogynophilia. Nowadays, it seems that there's another category of "trans women" beyond this one, consisting of men who get off (pardon the unscientific phrasing) on bypassing consent.

(This concept isn't my thought - I think I heard it from the Based Camp duo.)

These men claim to be trans women so they can invade women's spaces, apparently often without even attempting to "pass" as female but instead swinging their parts around for all to see - but also bypass all the rest of everyone's consent by demanding that by our language, we accept the lie they require us to mouth about them: that they're actually women.

Now take one of these guys and put him through a TSA line in which he's randomly selected for enhanced examination. I've been patted down a couple of times, and I've had to wait for a female TSA agent to get to my line in order to do it, out of concern for my bodily autonomy. In the case of this hypothetical "trans woman," he's created a situation in which a woman has to touch him intimately, or he'll sue.

tommyesq said...

"The Government also fails to explain why it needs a uniform definition of sex"

Maybe because the government (Congress in statutes, Executive in EO's, Court in case law, administrative state in administrative rules) for 250 years now, virtually the entire time with a definition of sex that was so uniformly and widely-accepted that it never felt a need to provide such a definition until the recent lunacy took hold.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Yes the ID is form of fact-checking, actual checking of facts not the WaPo Pinocchio-bestowing opinion column kind of "checking." And we all know how allergic lefties are to facts. Especially allergic to having their facts checked.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

This was obviously just a further effort to impose trans ideology by judicial fiat. The dissenters abandon all moral standing when they pretend that the injunction was actually about preventing irreparable harm to anyone.

tommyesq said...

Also, I have been sexually assaulted, moderately painfully, by a TSA Agent (who apparently had never seen a passenger with an artificial hip before) despite having my passport-listed sex match my gender identity and presentation. Of course, it occurred in NYC.

Achilles said...

Ketanji Brown Jackson is the gift that will keep giving for decades.

She will remind the world just how stupid and dishonest democrats are and she will be loud and obnoxious about it.

Levi Starks said...

I know we’re not having this particular discussion today, but one of the things that interests me about trans ideology is that the belief a person holds that their born with biological sex is incorrect bases that belief solely on the knowledge that an alternative possibility exists. Of course you will say that it’s impossible for them not to know, and short of a complex experiment which would doubtless be considered cruel that is correct. (Note* the physical reconstruction of a child’s body so as to reconcile desire with reality is not considered cruel)
I think a thought experiment is adequate.
In a situation where all members of a given society are segregated at birth by sex and denied access to the knowledge that an alternative existed, there could be no desire for an alternative. They could still wish to be taller, larger, left vs right handed or any other physical trait you choose. But only because they knew those possibilities exist.
In short it’s impossible to be born into the wrong body,
But it’s 100% possible to wish you were in the opposite body than you were born with.

Peachy said...

Bagoh - heh. right on.

Bob Boyd said...

all activities (travel, opening a bank account, renting a car, starting a new job) that may require a passport

Remember when conservatives were adamantly opposed to a federal ID?

gilbar said...

Levi said..
"..But it’s 100% possible to wish you were in the opposite body than you were born with.."

remove 'opposite' and replace with 'different', and you've got it

There are two people..Both think that their breasts should be different (bigger? smaller? GONE?)
One has to pay for their surgery.. because they are 'cis'
The Other, gets their insurance to pay for it.. because they are 'trans'

this is THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT..
If you say you are 'trans' people are Required, by Law, to pay and play along.
If you are 'cis', you're on your own.

Jamie said...

Remember when conservatives were adamantly opposed to a federal ID?

Back in the days before identity theft became so easy, prevalent, and incredibly devastating? I do indeed.

Basically, if we have to have IDs, which it seems to me we now do, I want them to be factually accurate and hard to counterfeit.

Fred Drinkwater said...

Achilles, I'm happy about that, as long as she doesn't get reinforcement .

n.n said...

From the purely objective perspective of Automaton Intelligence, is humanity a Gemini or a Perplexity of Grok?

Amadeus 48 said...

There is reality, and there is delusion. We know which side KBJ is on—and Kagan and Sotomayor, too.

Jersey Fled said...

I experience significant anxiety and fear for my safety every time I sign my tax return.

chuck said...

My experience of trans-women is that they have the mannerisms of men, especially in the eyes. I hadn't really noticed eyes before.

As to making the distinction on passports, they are used for identification and biological sex matters for that. When describing lost dogs and cats, sex matters. No one asks a dog what sex it identifies as.

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n.n said...

People opposed the federal, unitary id before the national injunction and alien invasion transitioned with a progressive rachet to advance American civil liberties unburdened and politically congruent constructs.

n.n said...

Medical care may be sex-specific. Social empathy, too.

D.D. Driver said...

When one is sifting through the skeletal remains after an accident what is more important: being able to identify the skeletons or being extra careful not to misgender the bones?

Leland said...

I appreciate Althouse highlighting the statement that nullifies the case brought to SCOTUS if you simply flip the parties. “the far-fetched contention that a transsexual must be injured whenever he is prevented from doing as he wishes”

Leland said...

Justice Jackson, why is it that Biden can do as he pleases, but not Trump in relation to the case in front of you? If Trump shouldn’t have the authority, why is Biden allowed it?

Sebastian said...
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Sebastian said...

"they would experience significant anxiety and fear for their safety" Where does the Constitution or any law say that their feelings override the president's authority, applied equally to all sexes?

Howard said...

Isn't it an issue of disguise? I mean al least for those who have not committed to the surgical reconfiguration of the naughty bits. I might identify as Long John Silver, but until I get the leg amputated and a wooden peg installed, it's just a costume. Arrrrh

dwshelf said...

Leland: Jackson, like most liberal constitutional judges, believes in doing the right thing in the moment.

She analyzes the situation, identifies the desired results, and in her explanation, she makes the case that the results are indeed desirable.

All rulings work that way.

ThatsGoingToLeaveA said...

Breezy said...
Trans people know they are trans.

11/7/25, 6:26 AM
narciso said...
Trans people are delusional

I say, Trans people know they are trans, but Trans people don't know they are delusional.

n.n said...

Sims are mostly homos with a hetero fetish bordering on obsession that is believed to be calmed through physical mutilation with forward-looking maintenance and sustained dysfunction perchance indulgence of abortive ideation of selfie or others. There are also transsocials with a notably misogynistic mind and motive.

Kevin said...

The same emotive problem exists when you call a fetus a baby and a Choice is made.

Perhaps they should have to ask the fetus whether it identifies as a person.

n.n said...

they should have to ask the fetus whether it identifies as a person

I am not a technical term-of-art.

That would be evolutionary.

Kevin said...

A passport is used for identification.

Ding! Ding! Ding!d

And the identification of the person is by the government, not by the person holding the passport -- who we can assume with reasonable certainly already knows who they are.

Identification of one person by another requires disclosure of objective elements which can be affirmatively checked by the person doing the identifying.

How someone feels about their sexuality at any one time and place removes an objective measure from the identity-confirming process, thus creating an additional burden on the government at point of entry.

hombre said...

“Why would we need a uniform definition of sex?” Ask the three sisty uglers, representing The Party of Science.

Lazarus said...

Consider it another game of dress-up and disguise, if after years of wearing a dress, you have to put on pants to go overseas. It might even be fun and a turn-on.

bgates said...

"The plaintiffs have, with the utmost credibility, expressed terror at the possibility that revealing their names could give mortal folk power over them, and fear also that the camera could steal their souls. The documented real-world harms to these plaintiffs obviously outweigh the Government’s unexplained (and inexplicable) interest in having a name and/or photo on government issued identification cards."

-Justice Jackson, in dissent, in United States vs They'd Rather Not Say and It's None of Your Business Anyhow

narciso said...

You cant make this up

G. Poulin said...

Is it possible for a Supreme Court Justice to be impeached just for being a nitwit?

RCOCEAN II said...

We're suffereing from a Judicial Tranny where 700 district judges - no matter where they are - can stop the POTUS from doing anything. No matter is too small or outside the nomal realm of Judicial review for them to rule on. How many stays and injunctions have been issued against Trump in about 10 months? 100?

How many against every POTUS from Washington to Nixon? Probably less than 50.

RCOCEAN II said...

It seems that Roberts and ACB will refuse to correct the situation by drawing some brightlines as to when injuctions against the POTUS by district courts can be done. Congress could do it, but since it would be filibustered by the D's - nothing will be done.

This also shows how TRump in 2016, saved us. The 3 leftists abuse their power and vote purely based their politics. IF they have a majority when another R president is in office, he will be hamstrung and unable to do anything.

ChrisSchuon said...

Did Constitutional law care about how various government actions might hurt peoples' feelings before Brown v. Bd. of Ed.? How is that even sufficient for standing?

Jupiter said...

"... or avoid all activities (travel, opening a bank account, renting a car, starting a new job) that may require a passport ..."
Hey, at least they can vote.

Jupiter said...

"I say, Trans people know they are trans, but Trans people don't know they are delusional."
I suspect that a lot of them are well aware that they are making a claim which is false. But I guess that would mean that they are not delusional, they are merely pretending to be delusional.

Mason G said...

"or avoid all activities (travel, opening a bank account, renting a car, starting a new job) that may require a passport"

I've done all those things. I don't have a passport.

Lazarus said...

You may not be able to define sex, but -- like pornography -- you know it when you see it.

And if you are seeing sex, what you are watching is probably pornography.

FredSays said...

Anybody else tired of judges and lawyers? Any respect I had is dimming every day. (Sorry, Ann)

john mosby said...

Ocean: "We're suffereing from a Judicial Tranny."

I like that! Judges who identify as executives. CC, JSM

Derve said...

FredSays said...
Anybody else tired of judges and lawyers? Any respect I had is dimming every day. (Sorry, Ann)
--------
Ann's neither a judge nor a practicing attorney.
She is in Higher Ed, an academic. Tenured.
They live in rarified air. No accountability, plenty of government funding.

Remember, hit the tip jar and send her your amazon commissions. The new husband has a lot of expensive needs for his camper, bike, paddleboards and other toys that she has to provide to keep him... Hth.

Derve said...

They're both VERY confident in their gender and sexuality roles though, but the two sons are gay because meade was not there to be a father figure back when ann was a working single mother (in academia) after the husband was no longer welcome in the home and he married another academic and had two sons (which he also has left...) Mr. Cohen likes the academic ladies and impregnating them, but it's hard for him to do "the work" to stick with one woman/one family, it seems.

God bless us all. Maybe ann really does need to tuck away some extra cash for the insecure days ahead herself? Maybe plant a bigger garden, and raise rabbits -- for pets or meat?

Derve said...

Jupiter said...
"I say, Trans people know they are trans, but Trans people don't know they are delusional."
I suspect that a lot of them are well aware that they are making a claim which is false. But I guess that would mean that they are not delusional, they are merely pretending to be delusional.
-------------
Wait... I thought this was just all about "protecting the children" not denying medical care or personal freedom to trans people, who will always be with us? You're showing your hand. Don't hate, study science and history. Trans people have been with us since the dawn of time... just like homosexuals.

Derve said...

Some of you are really gonna be pissed when hairy trans men on testosterone are forced to use the ladies room alongside your little girls, but it might be offset by having beautiful trans women welcomed in the mens' rooms peeing in the urinals alongside you and taking their time at the sink doing up their makeup.

As the Boss said in Cool Hand Luke: "Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men."

aka, Be Careful What You Wish For...

mikee said...

I, for one, prefer my government identification documents to do just that - identify me - without providing my opinions of myself or my psychoanalytical foibles to public display. There are enough difficulties defining oneself for public governance purposes without some TSA agent being given carte blanche to investigate my mental status, my personal sexual desires, or what - other than things not me - which may reside inside my underwear.

Bunkypotatohead said...

The line on the passport is for the holders SEX, which is either male or female.
There's no place in the document for listing gender, or whatever the person would like to be viewed as.

Brylinski said...

Each human has about 46 trillion cells. In a female, each of these cells has an XX chromosome. In a male each cell has an XY chromosome. How do you change these cells?

Mark said...

A passport is a means for the government to identify you not for you to tell them your identity. They need specific identifiers not potentially infinite personal preferences. Isn't that a compelling reason for the government to set the definition?

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