"... (she had, several times). There were also concerns over the holes in her tights and her 'unseasonal dressing.' The holes were minor and the outfits, granted, were eccentric but the only way to get out the house in the morning was to allow my daughter to dress herself. I clarified that I always included other options in her bag for when she dressed for Christmas in July but it was clear that they had already decided I was inept or neglectful, or both. Following this, after every drop-off I would send an email novella about my daughter’s clothing choices... until one day my paranoia felt too much and I stopped. I still included additional outfit options but I didn’t provide the lengthy explanations — something that returned to haunt me when I didn’t communicate a new obsession my daughter developed with some too-small shoes.... We had been told about four or five 5p-sized bruises on my daughter’s shin that we couldn’t explain.... And, of course, the strange outfits, holey tights and small shoes...."
From "My daughter’s nursery reported us to social services/When bruises were found on our child’s shin it was just the start of a humiliating, harrowing experience" (London Times).

54 comments:
The wife and I went on a ski trip and we took more than a few falls. the next week she has a physical and the doctor looked at the bruises and asked 'Are you in a an abusive relationship?' Yes, with skiing...glad I didn't get caught in the mess of these poor parents...
3 years old and already in the hands of others? I think that is too young.
Sarcastically, yes. Neglect. Leaving a 3 yr old in the care of professional strangers, who are idiots.
It's a form of passive aggressive mild child abuse to give children too many choices at that age. Kids crave boundaries so much they are constantly testing them. The primary function of shoes is to protect the feet and to fit well so the kid can run and play with abandon.
Some people find it burdensome to be the adult and so they pass on that responsibility to a toddler.
Big F**king Brother strikes again. Many articles from the UK pointing out how bad things are re: personal liberty and freedom to do whatever.
How awful for this mother! My 4 kids all were slender and had boney legs with constant bruises from just being kids. As for the crazy outfits, I didn’t allow them to choose their own clothing until they were old enough not to embarrass me in public. I guess I could’ve been reported for that.
My mother had to send me to preschool at the age of three because I was completely out of control with wild exuberance for life. I have nothing but fun memories of running around like a banshee climbing all over the jungle gym kicking balls singing songs I even enjoyed all of the alone time I got sitting in the corner when my worn out teachers had had enough of my antics.
“Many articles from the UK pointing out how bad things are re: personal liberty and freedom to do whatever.”
The same thing probably can/has happened here in the States.
My mom had just so on multiple knee patches on my pants before I finally grew out of them. I had cuts and bruises all over my body. Every time I got a minor injury I would immediately put it out of my mind so well that I would forget how each one of them happened when questioned later. That's still a case now, LOL
@R C Belaire, the parents made the mistake of forgetting UK children are crown possessions.
I once took my 11 year old son for a checkup at the county health center. The doctor asked him is he felt safe at home. Without missing a beat, he looked at me terror stricken and said "Don't hit me daddy!". He and I both burst out laughing immediately. The doctor did not find this even mildly amusing...
Starting in 1st grade, one of our grandsons would lay out his chosen clothes for the day and ask for Mom's approval before dressing.
This happened to us some twenty-five years ago. Our oldest, in kindergarten, was moved to share with the class when MacGruff the Crime Dog came to his classroom to talk about child abuse. He said all kinds of things, including that when his baby sister, not quite a year old, was "bad," we punished her by sticking her fingers into electrical outlets (his use of that term was considered to be especially suspicious, apparently, because what 4-year-old talks like that? The answer was, ours).
Alarmed, MacGruff's internal organs (the human whose hand was running the puppet, that is) hustled our son over to his teacher, where he requested his take. The teacher took him to the principal - he told the same story. The principal called CPS - the same.
The first I learned of this was that afternoon before pickup time, when a woman came to our door, saying she was from CPS. My first thought was, "Oh no, which of our neighbors...?" She said, then, that there had been an allegation of child abuse against my husband.
I was shocked to my core - we didn't even spank. We TALKED, incessantly, and gave time outs. Anyway, she toured the house, checked on the sleeping baby, inventoried the fridge, listened impassively to my explanation for why we had almost 50 empty beer bottles on the dining room table (that was unfortunate timing - we were home brewers and planned to bottle that night) - and in the end, to my relief although I was still scared out of my wits, said that a phone interview with my husband would be all she needed; she had bigger fish to fry elsewhere and we need not be concerned, though it would take some time for it all to work through the system.
It took six months before my husband could have his name removed from whatever horrible list he was on.
An interesting question was how we could possibly impress on our son the gravity of his actions. It's not like we could start spanking now! So, we sent him to his room immediately after school, having told him that the lies he had told could have made the school take him away from us forever, and his sister too. We said he had to stay there all the way until bedtime. At dinner, we opened the door just long enough to put his dinner plate on the floor and then closed it again. We could hear him crying and sniffling from time to time; keeping that door closed was one of the hardest things I had ever done.
Finally, well before bedtime, we burst into the room and showered him with hugs, telling him that we just couldn't stand to be separated from him.
I have no idea if this was the right approach to take or not, but I will say that that kid, despite his notable creativity, never lied about our family disciplinary methods ever again.
Sigh. He REPEATED his TALE
One evening when I was in seminary two police came to our apartment. They were looking for a family with our last name because they had received a report about possible child abuse or neglect and wanted to see our daughter who was one year old. I was so surprised and confused that I cooperated without raising questions. They seemed satisfied with our daughter's well being and left.
We were bewildered and worried that authorities were going to take away our child. Made some calls, talked to people about our options. I called the police to find out more about this report and why on earth our family was being investigated. Apparently we were not the family in question, they were checking on a family with the same last name who were in a different apartment in another building. We were relieved and let it go.
Later I realized the police handled this very badly. Same last name but different first name? And why did *we* have to call them to learn more? Why didn't the police contact us to say "our bad, wrong family, wrong apartment, you have nothing to worry about"?
I now work in the Children's Room at our public library and am a Mandatory Reporter. If we suspect there is abuse or neglect we are legally required to report to the authorities. And it's their job not ours to decide whether to investigate and intervene.
Show us on the doll where that mean teacher touched you. Turnabout!
My brothers and I (except the youngest, still a toddler) had both self- and dad-inflicted welts and bruises--he was a master beltsman and we were rambunctious at home and elsewhere.
If today's wimpy standards applied back then, he and most of the fathers I knew of would have been in jail.
I had bruises constantly from age 4 until I stopped playing baseball and basketball 14 years ago. I don't think my parents were ever visited by government officials over them and I don't remember any teacher ever asking me about the injuries. However, I grew up in the late 1960s thru the 1980s- it was a different legal world almost unrecognizable today.
"If today's wimpy standards applied back then, he and most of the fathers I knew of would have been in jail."
But we also wouldn't have to deal with the psychological transference of boomers needing to work out their parent issues on the rest of us for the last 40 years. A significant portion of progressive politics is made up of people who are trying to get back at those they can't actually get back at, so are reactionary against any they see as having similar perspectives.
That's not to dismiss good parents back in the day who used what we would call harsher punishments, but a lot of abuse was excused that caused continuing psychological trauma that parents today are trying to avoid (and like any historical reaction it always tends to swing too far one way and then too far other ways)
The British are very strict about child abuse, unless it is done by Muslim gangs.
My experience as a late boomer was our parents mostly ignored us, which was fantastic. On Saturday morning we would get up at 6:00 a.m. watch violent racist cartoons that also taught history while eating frosted sugar bomb cereal. When the folks got up they would kick us out of the house to go outside and play until we got called in for lunch. Then we would get kicked out of the house again until we were called for dinner. Then we were kicked out of the house again until dark we had to come home take a bath and get ready for bed. All the beatings I got were well deserved.
Huh. I was just thinking back - I don't remember talking a lot of baths as a small child. I remember being very excited when I was finally allowed to bathe alone, in first grade, instead of with my sister and brother. And this was in Arizona, where I ran around barefoot almost all year. I'm sure I was covered in dust and my feet were black every night (I know my hair was a disaster - I remember the pain of my mom's rapid brush-outs each morning until she felt I could be trusted to do a good enough job - which I didn't, at first), but I really remember only Sunday night baths.
Oh the thrill of being allowed to SHOWER, starting in about third grade!
Placing your child in a public school or day car is tantamount to child abuse.
Again with the UK. Truly they are de-evolving into some sort of bizarre mix of totalitarian government coupled with Sharia laws. It doesn't matter what you do now. Either one or the other will be coming for you.
PS- anyone who has had a daughter or granddaughter with a creative streak in her knows that they love to select their own clothing and are very early on aware of the statement they are making. Not much you can do about it other than to sit back and enjoy the show.
Some parents are like that. Nephew insisted on wearing one specific outfit (actually PJs) to school everyday in kindergarten. His mother’s sister (my partner) was appalled. She also had him in Montessori, and last night, I was reminded that he was allowed to run screaming through a nice restaurant at maybe two (as we Discussed our dinner plans with my daughter, SIL, and 15 mo old granddaughter for tomorrow night). Yet he (arguably) turned out just fine. He’s doing great as a Junior litigation atty in FL.
My partner had several run ins with CPS when they were raising 4 kids. In one instance the school called CPS on them for making the oldest babysit her (supposed) 3 youngest siblings, which prevented her from always doing her homework, and even made her late to school on occasion. So, CPS investigated, and there were only rooms, clothing, etc for the four kids (who all went to the same school). Turns out that the three youngest kids were imaginary, made up in order for their “babysitting” oldest sister to skip doing her homework.
Finally, old quasi-GF from college spent her career in Social Services, where she taught parenting skills. The kicker is that she never married, nor had kids. And one of my best friends, who has been with her now for 35 years, has suggested that she was relatively typical, and that many CPS personnel were also childless.
We were bewildered and worried that authorities were going to take away our child.
People don't realize until they get into one of these situations: It's not your child. It's the government's child and they may temporarily allow you to raise it as long as they continue to deem you fit.
Schools and health care providers have been forced into the system with mandatory reporting and no legal discretion.
If you doubt me, take your minor child into the emergency room. You effectively lose all custody when you cross the hospital threshold.
No idea how often I was bathed. I do know my mom did not believe in daily baths - didn’t see them as necessary. I have to think that my bedsheets got pretty dirty at the bottom. I loved to go barefoot and often went to bed with dirty feet. She never said anything. Mom’s biggest threat was going out the front door to break a switch off the willow tree. If she caught us, we’d feel it on our ankles. She never caught us, because we’d hear the front door slam and be out the back, up the hill and gone. She was smart, my mom.
British authorities are committed to being sure little girls are kept fit for the time “Asian men” are ready to traffic them.
"but the only way to get out the house in the morning was to allow my daughter to dress herself."
Ah, so shitty parenting got you in this mess.
But, as always, government punishes the responsible rather than flog the irresponsible in the town square. The examples are endless.
I wonder how long it's going to be before Anglo-Saxon Brits start pretending to be Muslim, making certain wardrobe and behavioral habits, just to keep the coppers off their backs. It's not hard to imagine how the CPS investigation would have gone if Mums had answered the door in an abaya, with hijab. The modern record is very clear.
"Paddy O said...
"If today's wimpy standards applied back then, he and most of the fathers I knew of would have been in jail."
But we also wouldn't have to deal with the psychological transference of boomers needing to work out their parent issues on the rest of us for the last 40 years."
Hmm, interesting take. Incarcerating the parent for punishing their child would have resulted in a better world today.
Gonna add that to my list, which covers every situation.
I blame:
Trump
Climate change
The parents
Boomers.
if I could get in touch with her, I would tell her that the bruises might be connected to a shortage of vitamin C in her child’s physiology.
Stepfather told concerned 5th(?) grade teacher to mind her own fuckin' business.
The end.
My parents would be in Sing-sing if bruises were the criteria.
"All the beatings I got were well deserved."
If they only knew how many more we deserved.
"If they only knew how many more we deserved."
We got extras to cover the unknowns.
On the other hand, things could have been worse..
"A closer look at the CPS system after 5 year-old starved to death in Baltimore home"
"Woman starved by parents as a teenager blames herself, court told"
"Boy, 3, starved and buried.."
"Mom accused of burning kid with lit cigarettes"
"Frankfort father accused of burning 9-year-old son with ..."
Our second son seemed to skip walking and go straight from crawling to running through the house at full speed. He ran hull tilt into everything — wooden kitchen chairs, window sills that came down to 2ft above the floor, end tables, etc. Inevitably there were bruises. One time when the wife brought him in to the pediatrician for a “well baby” checkup she kind of got a bit of the stink eye from the doctor when saw the bruised thighs, but she decided not to call the authorities.
Years later he made high school All American in track.
Old and slow,
I don't blame the doc for being pissed. You put him in a difficult situation. In some (many? Most? ) he is required to report any evidence of abuse.
If he thinks just a joke, no need to report it and it turns out there was abuse, he could be in serious trouble up to loss of license and jail.
If he does report it, even with the context, he is putting a customer into a level of hell I wouldn't wish on an enemy.
Don't ever joke about this and teach your kids not to either.
It creates a shit storm that can't be stopped.
John Henry
Read the article and agree that the CPS and daycare were intrusive and that would be terrifying. Also thought that these parents were probably too permissive. The final straw that caused the daycare to report the parents was that the child was permitted to wear shoes to school that were too small.
What the deuce?
I remember my sister commenting that when she was on child 1, she'd look at other kids and think "how could they let their kid go out dressed like that?!?" By child 3, OTOH, she was "well, at least he's wearing clothes"
I'm on the parents' side on this one
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...
"but the only way to get out the house in the morning was to allow my daughter to dress herself."
Ah, so shitty parenting got you in this mess.
How many children have you raised, and how good were you getting them out the door in the clothes you wanted, rather than the clothes they wanted?
This kind of bureaucratic faux professional oversite must be done. For the children.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." C S Lewis
My brothers and I (except the youngest, still a toddler) had both self- and dad-inflicted welts and bruises--he was a master beltsman and we were rambunctious at home and elsewhere.
Same here. And I also had welts on my ass from time to time from school-administered spanking with a wooden paddle.
Somehow I managed to raise five children without beating them once.
Letting kids pick their own clothes from everything in the closet is stupid. Pick 2 or 3 outfits that are appropriate for the weather and tell your kids to pick from those choices.
And no child should EVER have the choice of what outerwear to wear. Parents know if it’s going to be 10 degrees outside there is nothing other than a winter jacket, hat, mittens and boots that are needed for outdoor wear.
Another message that you need to share with your child’s teacher is ‘I will believe only 50% of what I hear about you as a teacher if you only believe 50% of what you hear about me and my home.” The first time I said that to a teacher she looked surprised and then laughed. She realized the truth of that statement.
Ma could go kinetic too, but she was a slapper-upside-the-head and a shin-kicker, not a belter, and always tried to moderate the paternal discipline.
I took a belt to my son maybe three times--one whup limit, just to prove the point that actions have consequences.
We need state-mandated children's clothing.
CPS don't really bother too much with the truly down and out families. They far prefer to go after the essentially law abiding and cooperative. You can simply refuse to speak to them. They will interview children separately, but that is the extent of their power, regardless of the threats they make. Parents who speak freely and cooperate are the ones who are roped in, and once they have a toehold, they are impossible to dislodge.
Leave England. You are the property of the state. You are not citizens, you are subjects, rapidly devolving into objects.
I was reported to CPS by a "mandatory reporter" after I demonstrated to her how I regained my 7 year old son's attention during a Serious Talk.
By lightly tapping my cheekbone with two fingers.
Fortunately the CPS agent who called me said my story matched the report and there would be no further action.
But I'm on that list...
This family was White and non-Muslim, so of course they were reported and harrassed. If they were Muslim, and/or BLACK(!), any criticism whould be racist! and Islamophobic!! And, if it were a White child complaining about being raped and trafficked by Muslim men -- into the Memory Hole it would go. We all know this is true.
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