September 5, 2025

"... 'soft-clubbing'... 'what happens when a generation raised on overstimulation and burnout wants the fun without the fatigue.' Think lo-fi coffee shop D.J. sets at 2 p.m...."

"... with everyone behaving a little too respectfully. Perhaps that explains the natural — or 'natty,' if you’ve been here a while — wine craze that has taken over New York’s restaurant and bar scene in the last couple of years, attracting 20-somethings looking to drink a little more 'intentionally.' And perhaps that’s how you get something called a wine rave at Public Records, a vast multilevel bar in Brooklyn, hosted by the D.J. collective Beverages on a Saturday afternoon. Here, finance bros in light blue linen button-ups and weathered Stan Smiths milled about clutching wine glasses, sediment occasionally pooling at the bottom."

From "Is Partying Dead, or Are You Just Old? Gen Z was alive during a week of supper clubs, daytime raves and rooftop ragers in New York City" (NYT).

Lots of photographs at the link, including the one I captured a segment of, because I've been keeping track of men (and women) in shorts:


I'll translate my feelings into a survey:

What do you think of young people going out "partying" dressed in shorts?
 
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32 comments:

Dave Begley said...

The Althouse Community demands - and I mean demands - answers about this strewed over with hurts business.

RideSpaceMountain said...

Making your way in the world today
Takes everything you've got
Taking a break from all your worries
Sure would help a lot
Maybe it's fake and all for show
Sometimes you wanna go
Where everybody knows you're lame

Achilles said...

If there is swimming involved I will wear shorts that dry quickly.

john mosby said...

"Soft-clubbing" is what the girls tell their friends they're doing when they head over to my place, unfortunately....RR, JSM

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Soft clubbing? Why yes as a man over 60 I've done my share of... What? That's what they meant?

Nevermind.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Obviously dirty minds run in the same gutter, Mr. Mosby.

tommyesq said...

So "soft-clubbing" = day drinking?

Mr. D said...

What do you think of young people going out "partying" dressed in shorts?

Not sure I understand the distinction between "partying" and "bar-hopping," because it seems like a distinction without a difference.

tommyesq said...

Also, men should be allowed to wear shorts in any social/workplace setting that women are allowed to bear their legs. Fair is fair, after all.

rehajm said...

…because of all the Crimes and Misdemeanors talk I went and rewatched it the other night. Holy carp did people really dress like that? They did not look the slightest bit comfortable…

narciso said...

why do they have to make every experience, an agonizing conundrum, wear slacks wear shorts whatever,

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

If your club is soft then shorts are appropriate.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

And if your club is slack just wear soft shorts.

RideSpaceMountain said...

@tommyesq, hear hear. Taking it further we should Make Kilts Great Again.

Eva Marie said...

All the complaining about how fat people are nowadays. Zero of the people in the photos were fat. Yes tattoos, but fewer than I expected. Fashion wise, the young woman in the red cut out pants dancing. Enjoyed the photos, videos. Thanks.

rehajm said...

…seems appropriate for the time and venue. Not exactly Easter brunch this thing…

…btw here in the south the youngin’s love dressy and not all of them are The Grove. Yah the guys are shorts but sometimes seersucker and a jacket. The girlie gurls all sundresses on the bike. Easy to tell when the gurls are New Jersey- stretchy pants and gym crap for the bikes…

Sydney said...

I find the shoes that are barely shoes more inappropriate than the shorts. You might as well be walking around barefoot.

Christopher B said...
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Christopher B said...

tommyesq beat me to it. Kids like to think they invented every fad.

Jaq said...

I was given a glass of "natural" wine by a Gen Z 'sommelier' and there was a taste in it that reminded me of a chicken coop, and not in a good way, and she said "oh, that's because they don't use sulfites, it can have a bit of the barnyard' in it"

Maybe it was some other chemical that they withheld, but if that is what they drank in the merry days of yore, they can have it.

Peachy said...

mmm barn floor wine. Sounds delicious, Jaq. //

Peachy said...

Modern pop music sucks and so does the night-life that goes with it? shocking.

Jaq said...

I don't think that anybody minds young men in shorts, it's us oldsters who maybe should accept that father time will exact his toll.

Narr said...

My choice wasn't offered:

Only if you want to.

Will Cate said...

LOL. Not too often do I choose the dead-last option in an Althouse poll, but today was one such day ...

Peachy said...

If it's hot out - wear shorts. I prefer shorts that are not too short. ...that goes for all 3 sexes.

Lazarus said...

What do we mean by "young people" partying? Are we discussing high school kids? College students? Twentysomethings? And what kind of "parties" are we talking about? House parties? Frat parties? Clubbing?
Intimate get togethers?

Then too, the media give people's ideas of "partying" a fixed form that later generations won't conform to: discos in the 70s, John Hughes movies in the 80s, and heck, beach parties and hippie hangouts in the 60s.

Maybe behind all this is somebody detecting a decline of a certain type of activity among a certain demographic and then generalizing it to a whole generation (or two).

Rocco said...

tommyesq said...
Also, men should be allowed to wear shorts in any social/workplace setting that women are allowed to bear their legs. Fair is fair, after all.

Social, maybe; but not work. I fondly remember the ‘90s when some women would wear a suit where the skirt was above the knee or even mini length. Those were the days.

In the same situation, a guy wearing a suit jacket with shorts would just look stupid. Like an Angus Young wannabe.

wildswan said...

Garner ye rosebuds while you may.

Young man
Dances with leaves
In shorts,
In wine.
Sulfite stewed,
With hurties, strewed
He leaves
the party arty.
Or she.

Jaq said...

If a reporter had showed up to one of our parties when I was this age, the question on everybody's lips would be "Who's the narc?"

Rusty said...

Anyway........

Clyde said...

I’m a Floridian. Shorts are daily wear for 95% of the year.

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