BS. Putin is playing Trump. He want as much, if not all, of Ukraine as he can get. But now that he can be in Alaska, Putin will demand that we return it to Russia.
Eastern Ukraine is part of historical Russia, and it was intentionally split off by the manipulative Soviets of the USSR. That crowd was more evil than Putin too.
Putin has nuclear weapons.
Putin has unlimited oil and other resources.
Putin has nuclear weapons.
Putin has unlimied oil and other resources.
Fight and die or enter a new stalemate/cold war, but win against Russia you will not. See M.A.D.
From listening to NPR and the MSM outlets, it seems they're are worried. "Is this good for Zelensky?" "Is this good for Ukraine?". Frankly, I after listening to the BBC and NPR yesterday, I cant understand why Putin hasn't surrendered yet.
Y'see the Russians have been making "incremental" gains and sufferering "Massive losses". A few Russians have broken through the current Ukrainian lines but they are all being killed and Captured. The AFU is about to take the offensive, and Putin's economy is in shambles. The walls are closing in.
Hopefully, Trump will take pity on him and give him an easy wasy out.
We tore up START because we thought we had an edge. Now the Russians have abandoned it, and they are way ahead of us suddenly with their non nuke Hazelnut MIRVed hypersonic and we want to talk a deal again.
We claim that Russia broke START first, but Russia offered us the opportunity to come and inspect the missiles in question, and we declined the offer and just tore up the treaty. First lie wins.
Indigo Red said... “BS. Putin is playing Trump. He want as much, if not all, of Ukraine as he can get. But now that he can be in Alaska, Putin will demand that we return it to Russia.”
And he will not stop there! He will crawl under your bed and shake it in the night.
One European leader just said that Russia had three times the artillery but was taking three times the losses. Anybody who knows the first thing about combat knows that artillery is the number one killer of soldiers. And not just that, but Russia is able to drop massive glide bombs on strongholds in Ukrainian fortifications. Ukraine's defenses are collapsing as we speak.
Putin offered a deal that would have left Ukraine intact, a month into the war, and Ukraine declined, because they thought that we were going to be able to destroy Russia with sanctions. You know what sanctions are destroying? The European economies.
Putin doesn't want western Ukraine, he has tried time after time to make deals that leave Ukraine a viable country, and we keep refusing them. If Trump doesn't make a deal, Putin is going to control the traditionally Russian city of Odessa, and Ukraine will be a rump state, and it will no longer matter to Russia if it joins NATO.
In fact, if you think about it, a rump Ukraine in NATO might be just what the doctor ordered for Russia, because it would be toothless, like Estonia or Latvia, and NATO would be there to keep it from causing trouble and starting WWIII.
If we had a Foreign establishment that cared about the USA, we'd be doing everything possible to get along with Russia and to end this war. We get nothing out of the war. And it doesn't matter to the USA national interests where the Russo-Ukraine border is drawn.
In fact, Russia and Ukraine were both ruled by Moscow for 500 years and no one in the USA gave a damn. I don't remember anyone in 1991 going "Thank God, Ukraine is finally free!"
Ukraine is in the Russia sphere of influence, and we have no right to poke our nose in their business, then Russia has in Mexico. But of course, all our World Policemen in DC don't think that. Nobody in the world can do a thing without it being our business. And we love printing money and giving it to foreigners. thankfully there's no draft, otherwise you see GI's dying in Donbass and Miss lindsey rubbing his hands with glee.
Here we are again. If Trump doesn’t fight to the last Ukrainian he is giving Putin what he wants.
If there was an election in a week Zelensky would leave the race because he would lose so badly. Putin is in the same situation. The people of both countries are against this war.
The only person involved in this situation who is listening to the people of Ukraine and Russia is Trump.
Everyone else is just cheering for blood and spectacle.
RCOCEAN II said... If we had a Foreign establishment that cared about the USA, we'd be doing everything possible to get along with Russia and to end this war. We get nothing out of the war. And it doesn't matter to the USA national interests where the Russo-Ukraine border is drawn.
We don’t get anything from the war as a nation.
But there is a subset of defense contractors and corrupt politicians who personally benefit financially.
Jaq said... In fact, if you think about it, a rump Ukraine in NATO might be just what the doctor ordered for Russia, because it would be toothless, like Estonia or Latvia, and NATO would be there to keep it from causing trouble and starting WWIII.
Ukraine joining NATO would guarantee a future NATO invasion of Russia.
The pretense would be found. There is too much precedent. No sane person could trust the Deep State foreign policy establishment at this point.
The only thing that delays perhaps indefinitely a US backed invasion of Russia is a bilateral deal between Russia and the USA while Trump is in office.
As with TDS after the 2016 election, the Europeans are overcompensating for their pollyannish and condescending attitude toward Russia before the Ukraine invasion.
They just knew they had Putin by the b*lls with Zelensky's election. Nyah nyah nyah. They just knew Putin couldn't do anything because big bad NATO was too powerful, while the tough USSR became unfocused drunken Russia and a mere oil and resource supplier. Such a pitiful cold and backward place!
After many European fools were made, the ego cycle has to run its course. Strong TDS lasted until people got a taste of Biden and inflation and 24/7 Wokeness...2016 to 2023...
I expect a similar ego clock and timeline with Ukraine, at least among the locals over there. The rest of the world has already moved on to Gaza and whatnot.
If there is a settlement and whatever is left of Ukraine joins NATO, then some future date the entire NATO alliance is going to attack Russia on the initial pretense that they are just Trying to reunite Ukraine. This would not stop at Ukraine’s borders, and the ultimate goal of the effort would be regime change in Russia.
This should be obvious to any sentient Being at this point.
The current Russian regime will never accept any agreement that does not preclude Ukraine joining NATO in any attempts to add Ukraine to NATO will start a war.
People just need to be honest about this and realize who the aggressors in this situation are.
Summer after ethnic Springs. Trump assembles peace from the pieces inherited after three administrations. Good luck to the Ukrainians, Russians, and collateral damage from noble virtue.
Fingers crossed. A potential nuke deal is a bonus. Maybe squeeze China in the process of normalized relationship with Russia. That said, I am not hopeful.
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BS. Putin is playing Trump. He want as much, if not all, of Ukraine as he can get. But now that he can be in Alaska, Putin will demand that we return it to Russia.
Translation: we are going to get what we want. Thank you Mr. Trump!
War means there's bargaining friction, and Trump is the bargaining master.
NYT not sure why sell-out has a hyphen but man crush doesn't.
Oughtta be worth a few votes, eh Vlad?
Eastern Ukraine is part of historical Russia, and it was intentionally split off by the manipulative Soviets of the USSR. That crowd was more evil than Putin too.
Putin has nuclear weapons.
Putin has unlimited oil and other resources.
Putin has nuclear weapons.
Putin has unlimied oil and other resources.
Fight and die or enter a new stalemate/cold war, but win against Russia you will not. See M.A.D.
From listening to NPR and the MSM outlets, it seems they're are worried. "Is this good for Zelensky?" "Is this good for Ukraine?". Frankly, I after listening to the BBC and NPR yesterday, I cant understand why Putin hasn't surrendered yet.
Y'see the Russians have been making "incremental" gains and sufferering "Massive losses". A few Russians have broken through the current Ukrainian lines but they are all being killed and Captured. The AFU is about to take the offensive, and Putin's economy is in shambles. The walls are closing in.
Hopefully, Trump will take pity on him and give him an easy wasy out.
Slavs gonna slav
It wasn't Trump that bet his economy on availability and access to cheap Russian gas.
We tore up START because we thought we had an edge. Now the Russians have abandoned it, and they are way ahead of us suddenly with their non nuke Hazelnut MIRVed hypersonic and we want to talk a deal again.
We claim that Russia broke START first, but Russia offered us the opportunity to come and inspect the missiles in question, and we declined the offer and just tore up the treaty. First lie wins.
Indigo Red said...
“BS. Putin is playing Trump. He want as much, if not all, of Ukraine as he can get. But now that he can be in Alaska, Putin will demand that we return it to Russia.”
And he will not stop there! He will crawl under your bed and shake it in the night.
One European leader just said that Russia had three times the artillery but was taking three times the losses. Anybody who knows the first thing about combat knows that artillery is the number one killer of soldiers. And not just that, but Russia is able to drop massive glide bombs on strongholds in Ukrainian fortifications. Ukraine's defenses are collapsing as we speak.
Putin offered a deal that would have left Ukraine intact, a month into the war, and Ukraine declined, because they thought that we were going to be able to destroy Russia with sanctions. You know what sanctions are destroying? The European economies.
Putin doesn't want western Ukraine, he has tried time after time to make deals that leave Ukraine a viable country, and we keep refusing them. If Trump doesn't make a deal, Putin is going to control the traditionally Russian city of Odessa, and Ukraine will be a rump state, and it will no longer matter to Russia if it joins NATO.
In fact, if you think about it, a rump Ukraine in NATO might be just what the doctor ordered for Russia, because it would be toothless, like Estonia or Latvia, and NATO would be there to keep it from causing trouble and starting WWIII.
If we had a Foreign establishment that cared about the USA, we'd be doing everything possible to get along with Russia and to end this war. We get nothing out of the war. And it doesn't matter to the USA national interests where the Russo-Ukraine border is drawn.
In fact, Russia and Ukraine were both ruled by Moscow for 500 years and no one in the USA gave a damn. I don't remember anyone in 1991 going "Thank God, Ukraine is finally free!"
Ukraine is in the Russia sphere of influence, and we have no right to poke our nose in their business, then Russia has in Mexico. But of course, all our World Policemen in DC don't think that. Nobody in the world can do a thing without it being our business. And we love printing money and giving it to foreigners. thankfully there's no draft, otherwise you see GI's dying in Donbass and Miss lindsey rubbing his hands with glee.
Here we are again. If Trump doesn’t fight to the last Ukrainian he is giving Putin what he wants.
If there was an election in a week Zelensky would leave the race because he would lose so badly. Putin is in the same situation. The people of both countries are against this war.
The only person involved in this situation who is listening to the people of Ukraine and Russia is Trump.
Everyone else is just cheering for blood and spectacle.
RCOCEAN II said...
If we had a Foreign establishment that cared about the USA, we'd be doing everything possible to get along with Russia and to end this war. We get nothing out of the war. And it doesn't matter to the USA national interests where the Russo-Ukraine border is drawn.
We don’t get anything from the war as a nation.
But there is a subset of defense contractors and corrupt politicians who personally benefit financially.
The big guy got his 10%.
Jaq said...
In fact, if you think about it, a rump Ukraine in NATO might be just what the doctor ordered for Russia, because it would be toothless, like Estonia or Latvia, and NATO would be there to keep it from causing trouble and starting WWIII.
Ukraine joining NATO would guarantee a future NATO invasion of Russia.
The pretense would be found. There is too much precedent. No sane person could trust the Deep State foreign policy establishment at this point.
The only thing that delays perhaps indefinitely a US backed invasion of Russia is a bilateral deal between Russia and the USA while Trump is in office.
As with TDS after the 2016 election, the Europeans are overcompensating for their pollyannish and condescending attitude toward Russia before the Ukraine invasion.
They just knew they had Putin by the b*lls with Zelensky's election. Nyah nyah nyah. They just knew Putin couldn't do anything because big bad NATO was too powerful, while the tough USSR became unfocused drunken Russia and a mere oil and resource supplier. Such a pitiful cold and backward place!
After many European fools were made, the ego cycle has to run its course. Strong TDS lasted until people got a taste of Biden and inflation and 24/7 Wokeness...2016 to 2023...
I expect a similar ego clock and timeline with Ukraine, at least among the locals over there. The rest of the world has already moved on to Gaza and whatnot.
If there is a settlement and whatever is left of Ukraine joins NATO, then some future date the entire NATO alliance is going to attack Russia on the initial pretense that they are just Trying to reunite Ukraine. This would not stop at Ukraine’s borders, and the ultimate goal of the effort would be regime change in Russia.
This should be obvious to any sentient Being at this point.
The current Russian regime will never accept any agreement that does not preclude Ukraine joining NATO in any attempts to add Ukraine to NATO will start a war.
People just need to be honest about this and realize who the aggressors in this situation are.
NYT had a headline along the lines that "Trump has an affinity for Putin."
Stop it already.
Summer after ethnic Springs. Trump assembles peace from the pieces inherited after three administrations. Good luck to the Ukrainians, Russians, and collateral damage from noble virtue.
Fingers crossed. A potential nuke deal is a bonus. Maybe squeeze China in the process of normalized relationship with Russia. That said, I am not hopeful.
Cool, where’s the Epstein files, pedo?
the same NY Times that published Putin's op ed in 2012,
Trump’s peace plan sounds very similar to Putin’s wish list.
Putin's secret weapon is Trump. What could be more deadly?
yet the invasion happened on the shambling oaf's watch, it's almost as if there was no respect for him
Trump is also, wisely, -being cautiously optimistic.
This war started under Crook Soros-puppet Joe.
the left seem to forget that.
its rather striking what they forget, like when Biden shut down our domestic oil production as part of a bribe from Gazprom,
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