What a misreading! Trump is vindicated when he doesn't win the prize, especially as he racks up more achievements.
And headlines like that one also vindicate him, by the way.
How about an article that's not about his imagined effort to win the prize but on his ostensible effort to end a war? Isn't "war" the right word? Or does the London Times regard wars between African countries as "feuding"?
As Trump described it: "The conflict has continued and it’s been going on for … they say 30 years.... At least six million people were killed during that period of time. It’s incredible and somebody said that was actually the biggest war on the planet since World War Two. So it’s a shame. We’re gonna bring it to an end."
Oh, he's just a big baby who wants his prize!
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Speaking of the Nobel Prize, just yesterday, I happened to run across this in Haruki Murakami's "Novelist as a Vocation" (commission earned):
This is what Raymond Chandler said about the Nobel Prize in one of his letters: “Do I wish to be a great writer?” he wrote. “Do I wish to win the Nobel Prize? Not if it takes much hard work. What the hell, they give the Nobel Prize to too many second-raters for me to get excited about it. Besides, I’d have to go to Sweden and dress up and make a speech. Is the Nobel Prize worth all that? Hell, no.”American novelist Nelson Algren (The Man with the Golden Arm, A Walk on the Wild Side) won the National Institute of Arts and Letters Award of Merit Medal in 1974 thanks to the support of Kurt Vonnegut, but he blew off the awards ceremony and got drunk with a woman at a bar instead. Of course, his absence was intentional. When asked “What’d you do with the medal?” Algren answered: “I dunno, I threw it away or something.”
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Why do the arts in general have such an obsession with awards and self-congratulations? I asked myself that 50 years ago when I stopped giving a fig about the Oscars or like awards.
We do not hate the Democrat-Soviet Media enough.
Obama was given a golden statue - just for being him.
ah.
""The conflict has continued and it’s been going on for … they say 30 years.... At least six million people were killed during that period of time"
REMEMBER!
to lefties, Black Lives DON'T MATTER..
unless it's whites that end them..
Black on Black killing? That's just a "feud"
boys will BE boys.. right?
A war in South East Asia. A war in Africa. A war in the Middle East. A war in Slavic Spring. An invasion of America with collateral damage. An economic war of labor and environmental arbitrage. A war against women and girls, too. Trump... President Trump is a noble prize.
Nobel jumped the shark with Barack Obama. It's always kind of been a joke prize, but that was soooooo over the top.
Here's what Richard Feynman had to say when he won the Nobel prize for physics: “Winning a Nobel Prize is no big deal, but winning it with an IQ of 124 is really something,”
Nobody offered a Nobel Prize to Jimmy Smith or Oliver Nelson. While my peers were listening to Dylan and the Beatles, I was still hooked on this.
Jimmy Smith w/ the Oliver Nelson orchestra - Walk On The Wild Side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YBeZRSCYJ0&ab_channel=JimmySmith-Topic
All of the so-called awards have turned into non-participation trophies that are awarded without accomplishment. Results matter, awards don't.
You didn’t quote Trump’s “cogent” criticism, is this what you meant:
"No, I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do, including Russia/Ukraine, and Israel/Iran, whatever those outcomes may be, but the people know, and that's all that matters to me."
No mention of Rwanda/DRC there. I guess that didn’t count in Trump’s mind.
According to Foreign Affairs magazine, a good establishment publication which generally disapproves of Trump, the war has cost 6 million lives and 7 million displaced. For comparison, there are about 2 million people in Gaza.
But who cares about Africans being hurt by other Africans? Where's the oppressor-oppressed moral drama?
The left wing media will never learn, even as they keep losing ratings, and fall apart. Their hatred of one man beats everything else.
6mm dead, a war that has gone on since 1986 39 years.
Some feud
John Henry
Left Bank of the Charles said...
You didn’t quote Trump’s “cogent” criticism, is this what you meant:
"No, I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do, including Russia/Ukraine, and Israel/Iran, whatever those outcomes may be, but the people know, and that's all that matters to me."
No mention of Rwanda/DRC there. I guess that didn’t count in Trump’s mind.
Just Left Bank emphasizing the point.
Democrats are just morally degenerate pieces of shit that don't believe a single word they say.
FormerLawClerk said...
Nobel jumped the shark with Barack Obama. It's always kind of been a joke prize, but that was soooooo over the top.
It just made it obvious what the game was about.
The globalist international socialist left doesn't want peace.
They want power.
They only claim to want peace when they are losing a war somewhere.
"But who cares about Africans being hurt by other Africans?"
Almost nobody. Why should we?
Black lies sold black lives into slavery, black lives didn't matter, then black lives mattered incorporated for-profit, a Person of Orange AdVanceS and peace breaks out here, there, everywhere.
It's a familiar feud among diverse families with Diverse heritage.
If a few wars end and thousands of lives are saved, who gives a shit what his motivation is! Because Orange Man bad I guess.
The DICs of the transnational community are anxious that DRC and Rwanda will have a gay old time and no longer answer their call to AID for-profit and leverage.
Seen on Bluesky : a commenter complains that this is not about peace. It is a trumpian scheme to open a 3rd world country for deportations.
Not in the comment but Rwanda has been taking illegals from England for a year or 2 now.
I think I will point that out. I'll probably be accused of shit stirring.
John Henry
Some victims are more victim-y than others. Right now, the supreme high victims are Jews killed by Hamas or Palestinians killed by Israelis. There are lots of victims in the Middle East, but these are the ones that get the attention.....I read somewhere that in Syria the war there produced 600,000 deaths and two million refugees. Sadly, these people don't have the status of full victims because their misfortunes were not the result of Israeli or American operations.
Trump will never receive a Nobel Prize no matter how often he's nominated because such an honor will expose Obama's award for the blatant act of ideological cocksucking it was.
I had only a vague awareness of this conflict in Africa. Here again, the victims got murdered by the wrong people. It seems like the carnage and suffering were worse than anything produced by apartheid but to go on about such things would be counter productive and might even foster a racist narrative. Better to just avoid all mention of it.
The WaPo's article on this has the headline, "Trump seeks crown as world peacemaker, brokering truce in central Africa".
It can't be healthy to be that obsessively anti-Trump all of the time.
On the Washington Mall, they should enshrine a Tomb to the Unknown Genocide. There are so many peoples f who have suffered ghastly fates and whose futile deaths have passed unnoticed by the world......The Vendee Region during the French Revolution, the rural peasants during the Russian and Chinese Revolutions, these people now in Central Africa, their unhappy destiny will not be marked by any operas, novels, movies, or Pulitzer Prize histories or reporting. They just don't count in the larger scheme of things.
Slightly off topic: Why do so many people who produce such brutality and cruelty in their own lands, suddenly become so ennobled when they move to the west?
This made me laugh.. testing
Next step should be to get Belgium to pay reparations.
Seriously.
Conrad was there in the 1890s.Heart of Darkness is autobiographical. He captured a lot of the horror but his publisher made him take a lot out and tone the rest down.
The more recent "King Leopold Ghost" better captures the unspeakable horrors the Belgians inflicted on the congo for 100+ years.
Fuck Belgium. God bless president trump
John Henry
Next step should be to get Belgium to pay reparations.
Seriously.
Conrad was there in the 1890s.Heart of Darkness is autobiographical. He captured a lot of the horror but his publisher made him take a lot out and tone the rest down.
The more recent "King Leopold Ghost" better captures the unspeakable horrors the Belgians inflicted on the congo for 100+ years.
Fuck Belgium. God bless president trump
John Henry
Mezzrow
I was a big Jimmy Smith fan in the 60s.still have some of his albums.
Thanks for the reminder.
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Obama got the Nobel Prize for just showing up.
Trump gave the world the Abraham Accords in his first term.
He has managed to rid the world of Iranian nuclear threat (with massive help from Israel), and now is arranging the ceasing of fighting between Israel and Iran.
He is about to announce an end of the Israeli/Hamas conflict and what the new future of Gaza will be.
He just got Rwanda and the DRC to agree to peace terms, ending the bloodiest war since WWII.
And within the month, an expansion of the Abraham Accords will be announced.
Obama got the Nobel Prize for just showing up.
Kinda puts a whole different light on the formerly prestigious Nobel Prize. Once they started moving into their Woke phase (and that started years before Obama), they started to lose their luster. By the time Obama's award for breathing in and out was handed out, it was already approaching time to put that award out to pasture.
I expect this year's Nobel Peace Prize to go to the administrations of Harvard and Columbia.
Off topic rant continues: Why are feminists here so outraged by limitations on late term abortions but so unobservant-- almost to the point of complicity-- with the various atrocities committed on women in countries like Iran and Afghanistan. Why does the slippery slope always end in Hitler or the Handmaid's Tale but never in Mao or hijabs.
Quaestor said...
Trump will never receive a Nobel Prize no matter how often he's nominated because such an honor will expose Obama's award for the blatant act of ideological cocksucking it was.
Worse. It just shows that the Nobel institute is a corrupt institution whose only purpose is to mislead people about the intentions of our globalist rulers.
the Nobel has returned to the blood soaked of their explosives tycoon,
William said...
Off topic rant continues: Why are feminists here so outraged by limitations on late term abortions but so unobservant-- almost to the point of complicity-- with the various atrocities committed on women in countries like Iran and Afghanistan. Why does the slippery slope always end in Hitler or the Handmaid's Tale but never in Mao or hijabs.
Because these women believe if they are nice to the barbarians the barbarians will be nice back.
They hate daddy because daddy tells them that is not how the world works.
Giving Trump the Nobel Prize is a no-brainer and almost an insult to Trump. He's on a path to do far more for peace than any previous winner. Most of them accomplished little of lasting value, and many were no more than just a short-lived popular story. Some were far more damaging to peace than helpful. Obama, Al Gore, Yasser Arafat? Give me a break. The only winner close to what Trump has and will accomplish is Mikhail Gorbachev.
Check for yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates
Democrat women are all either stunted in their moral development or straight sociopaths like Hillary Clinton.
If you hit them or genitally mutilate them they will bargain with you. They prefer rapists like Bill Clinton who caress their cheek and pat them on the head after words. All Bill has to do is tell them they can get an abortion after words and tell them they are a good girl. Maybe even give them a job in HR.
But if you tell these women they are wrong about anything they will flip out and lose it. They prefer to be raped by someone who says they are smart and lies to them than be around people who treat them like adults that can handle the truth.
the Thunderer, is totally unable to grasp the matter, they are nearly as clueless as their counterpart across the ocean,
The literature prize has never been about just literary merit. Another factor was politics. Originally that was literature that supported peace and understanding between peoples. That quickly morphed into supporting leftism and globalism.
That's why Sinclair Lews got the prize.
Later, it became about giving a prize to based on social and racial identity. So many Jews, so many Africans, so many this, so many that. Oh look, we haven't given one to Austrailia yet, better give one to Patrick White. Ooops we forgot about black Americans - here you go Toni Morrison.
And since the early 2000s it was decided at least 50 percent had to go to women. Some of the awards are bizzare. Dylan, really? And who is Louise Gluck?
And who reads Bellow or Brodsky anymore?
And how did Winston Churchill ever win it? Good Historian, but also a complete warmonger who stood against everything the Nobel prize was supposed to stand for. At least they didn't give him a peace prize.
John Henry @ 11:12 That would be Portugal.
Who cares what the London Times or the UK think about Trump? The UK is becoming Nigeria. Effete Brits do nothing while Muslims mass rape their little girls. Why stop them if and when they murder infidels?
more like the Northwest Frontier or the Levant, re Rwanda, we know one of it's more infamous residents, the stockport shooter
At Rusty 12:08: Portugal in the Belgian Congo?
yes Portugal and Angola, and East Timor, earns it's badge of infamy,
Trump has got the NeverTrumpers on Powerline to come around. If he can bring peace between MAGA and NeverTrump, he deserves whatever prize they can come up with.
No rusty, it was the Belgian Portugal was horrible in other African countries.
Originally, it was not even a Belgian territory. Into the 1900s it was the personal property plantation of King Leopold of Belgium
John Henry
Sorry Belgian congo
The whole context of the meeting was the Rwanda-Congo peace agreement. If Trump didn't refer to that in one sentence no sane or honest or intelligent person would conclude that it meant that he didn't care about that agreement.
It is true that the literature (and peace) prizes go out of their way to recognize people from new countries and continents. Sometimes that has been about leftism, but not always. It also reflects the jaded boredom of literary critics and journalists always on the hunt for something new.
It is truly amazing that despite decades of war, the Democratic Republic of Congo's population has grown from 39 million in 1992 to 103 million today.
Rwanda's population has essentially doubled from its pre-genocide level of around 7 million to today's 14.6 million, representing one of the most remarkable demographic recoveries in modern history following such devastation.
So, despite decades of war, and a brutal genocide in Rwanda, together leading to millions of deaths, both countries' population have *grown* dramatically . Go figure.
I'm also struck by how little attention we pay to most African countries. For perspective,
Nigeria's population is approximately 234.8 million as of June 2025 and is rapidly growing.
This makes Nigeria by far the most populous country in Africa and the sixth most populous country in the world. To put this in perspective vis a vis my observations above:
Nigeria: ~235 million people
Democratic Republic of Congo: ~103 million people
Rwanda: ~14.6 million people
So just those three African countries comprise a population equal to that of the United States.
[all from AI Claude, with my edits and additions]
Yet the American media report almost nothing about them, other than their conflicts with Muslim fanatics. Who knew about this decades-long Congo-Rwanda war, for example?
Meanwhile, China is engaged in many projects in Africa, thoroughly displacing the influence of even its former colonial powers---and ours as well.
Trump may understand that we have to counter the ChiCom's aggressive African strategy. Let's hope so.
People. It's AFRICA.
Things fall apart.
“Originally, it was not even a Belgian territory. Into the 1900s it was the personal property plantation of King Leopold of Belgium”
I always preferred King Leonardo to Leopold. Even Itchy Brother was preferrable.
Obama got a Didn’t Earn It Nobel Peace Prize, then went on to bomb several countries and kill thousands in drone attacks.
No mention of Rwanda/DRC there. I guess that didn’t count in Trump’s mind.
That's all you got?
/shakes head and walks away
George Orwell never received a Nobel Prize. So Trump is in very good company.
Every time the Left fails to acknowledge Trump's victories or his efforts to make America better for the citizenry, the further they expose themselves as small minded and petty. Does that bother them? It should but it doesn't, because they are small minded and petty.
It’s smart for Trump to be rolled by Bibi. It makes everyone forget that he was rolled by Putin.
“Trump is vindicated when he doesn't win the prize.”
Actually, that makes sense of everything Trump and the MAGA world have been saying about Trump not getting Nobel Peace Prize, which won’t be not awarded to him until December. He’s campaigning not to get it.
No mention of Rwanda/DRC there. I guess that didn’t count in Trump’s mind.
An honest commentator — which Left Bank isn’t — might consider that the Congo and Rwanda were there to celebrate a done deal while Israel-Iran and Russia-Ukraine are not.
It’s only black people killing black people. Why would the Times care about that?
No mention of Rwanda/DRC there. I guess that didn’t count in Trump’s mind.
The spite and misplaced anger is so delicious to leftists. Trump singlehandedly saved more black lives than all the BLM Riots combined and without scamming GoFundMe for million$ or having the sitting VP tweet out support.
Kakistocracy said...
It’s smart for Trump to be rolled by Bibi. It makes everyone forget that he was rolled by Putin.
It is smart for Rich to be stupidly wrong about Trump.
It wait... We all remember how stupidly wrong you have been about every single thing for the last several years.
How is your Tesla stock doing Rich? Is X bankrupt yet? How sharp is Biden's brain? Is the laptop Russian disinformation?
Oh never mind you are just a stupid person who never learns from failure.
Left Bank of the Charles said...
“Trump is vindicated when he doesn't win the prize.”
Actually, that makes sense of everything Trump and the MAGA world have been saying about Trump not getting Nobel Peace Prize, which won’t be not awarded to him until December. He’s campaigning not to get it.
Trump is just pointing out what every honest person in the world knows. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke and the globalist left doesn't believe a word they say.
Your words and your actions don't match Left Bank.
This is a deeper ethical problem than just lying.
I hope Trump gets a Nobel. The betting line for the over/under on the length of the acceptance speech would be interesting I bet.
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