Obama, perhaps representing the Democratic Party, sticks to a minimalist position: Republicans might take some of your money. Trump is effusive, lists a lot of things that will benefit some of us, and ends with an exciting but vague and weird attack on Democrats: They've lost control of themselves! They are aimlessly wandering around! They've got no grit! They are warped in the past! They think they're going to bring their insane policies back, but it's never going to happen! Meanwhile, Obama merely wafts anxiety about health insurance coverage.
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That tax on Social Security, of course, signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
And that tax on Social Security was written in the Senate and sponsored by Bob Dole, Republican.
They're both sticking to script--Obama with the usual Democratic fearmongering about Republican's pushing grandma off a cliff, while Trump declares everything big and beautiful.
Note though, that everything Trump touted is a cost; he didn't have anything to say about cuts (of which there weren't nearly enough).
Speaking of insurance is a cop out. Let's see if Trump can resolve the 40 trillion dollar deficit therein, and address health, not medical care. That said, Obama is living in a mansion by the rising waters at the seashore. Climate change is good, others say it is a kleptocratic Ka-catastrophe.
Speaking of rising waters ... have any more dead bodies washed up on Barack Obama's Martha's Vineyard lawn lately?
If debt, supply, and production do not matter, then taxation has an ulterior motive.
I distinctly recall how the bill that completely screwed my healthcare insurance coverage and everybody else's, at great cost to consumers and physicians, and to the great enrichment of insurance companies, was "pushed through" back in 2010. I remember who pushed it, and who it is named for.
I'm still waiting for my $2500.
"Warped in the past"? Surely a typo, meant to say "wrapped" I assume. But even his typos are evocative, in this case, Let's Do the Time Warp Again.
No Medicaid coverage for gender-affirming care for adults. That seems discriminatory to me...
Trump is trying to deflect from the fact that if the bill goes down it will likely be because of Republicans.
Warped in the past? hm.
Obamacares merely shared responsibility a la progressive prices. This why sustainable labor and environmental arbitrage is critical to the viability (pun intended) of progressive principals... principles prosecuted through liberal license.
Trump - 1
Obama - 0
Trump smartly weaved in some social issues that are 80/20 in his favor. The guy from Queens rhetorically destroyed the Harvard Law guy.
Tim Maguire is correct--neither of them talk about anybody paying for any of this. It's all "Federal funding" which of course simply exists for Presidents and Congress to distribute to us peasants.
Obama should confine himself to gazing at the Mokuluas.
"Warped in the past"? Surely a typo, meant to say "wrapped" I assume."
He's thinking "Let's do the time warp again."
I'm told "It’s a metaphor for letting go of inhibitions and diving into a wild, timeless experience."
Trump is effusive, lists a lot of things that will benefit most of us, and ends with an exciting but vague and weird attack on Democrats: They've lost control of themselves!
FIFY, Althouse. And you must have missed the attacks on cabinet officers by the likes of senators Tim Kaine, Chris Van Hollen, and Sheldon Whitehouse, among others, to not grasp how accurate the charge that they’ve lost control of themselves is.
Time for an updated SNL Robert Smigel Ex-Presidents cartoon!
JSM
Obama warning that someone is going to f**k with your insurance... That's rich.
Obama as ALL of the democrats and media call out vague “cuts” with absolutely no discussion of what those cuts are. There ARE NO BENEFIT CUTS. This is the same crap democrats pull out for decades. Any slowdown in growth is a “CUT”. The one thing learned over the last 4 years is that there isn’t a single Democrat or Democrat media outlet that doesn’t lie to your face. Not one.
But the bill adds $4000 to the standard deduction for senior. That's not nothing. I'll take it!
The President famous for the lie of the year about healthcare is doing it again.
Still thinking of that doctor I could keep if I liked my doctor.....
As Obama reminds us, it's the Progressive Democrats that 'Give', and the Republicans that 'Take Away'. But they both can take credit for the $37 Trillion debt that neither of them like to refer to. As for Trump, it's called a 'weave warp'.
Also: Ms Althouse, please check your spam folder, I have suspicions......
Isn't it the case that the "people will lose Medicaid" thing refers to a work requirement for the able-bodied? My understanding is that that one thing is crushing the Medicaid budget. Am I wrong?
Obama with the usual Democratic fearmongering about Republican's pushing grandma off a cliff …
@tim maguire, let’s not forget that during the pandemic Democrat governors like Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer deliberately forced grandma’s nursing home to accept COVID-19 patients into the facility, so we shouldn’t ignore the fact that it’s Democrats that actually killed grandma.
What Obama is "worried" about is the requirement for Medicaid users age 18-65 who are not disabled to work 20 hours per week.
Doesn't have to be for pay. You can also volunteer.
Is that really too much to ask?
So its only a cut if they refuse to work.
I am struck by two things. One - that Obama, 8 years out of office is the Demcrats' spokesman here. They really have no one else. Two - the rhetoric is from the FDR New Deal era. "We Democrats will give you more goodies from the treasury than the Republicans will." They really have nothing else.
No, "warped in the past" is exactly right, Dems entire platform is like an unpopular 45 record, thrown out along the train tracks by the radio station at the edge of town, warping in the sweet Sunshine of free thinking and free speech, leaving the police-state-loving ObamaNation to shrivel as the trash that it is. (They've put Kamala into training now to be able to speak without drinking any wine, snort).
It's hilarious and dare I say "Great".
Ah, Big Mike, great point! But Big Gretch got away with it clean, so those deaths don't count.
Maybe they will when she tries for president.
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"Warped in the past"? Surely a typo, meant to say "wrapped" I assume. But even his typos are evocative, in this case, Let's Do the Time Warp Again.
I think he was drinking some covfefe while typing this.
If the ObamaNation had succeeded, this conversation on X between 2 Presidents would have never been able to exist: jan 6, 2021, Facebook and Twitter obediently silenced the sitting, elected President of the United States of America 2 weeks before he was going to be leaving office, and were staffed to police us all. By now, Banks & PayPal would have long ago pulled my family's ability to get our funds, because we expressed Wrong-think too often.
Year Zero would have retroactively been claimed for 2009, a new calendar & civilization begun, 40 to 400 years of darkness, the ObamaNation.
GlennR once said "leftism always leads in the direction of Pol Pot."
we are now heading UP, instead of Down. Praise Be.
We should not forget that the entire PURPOSE of ObamaCare was to destroy all private insurance, clearing the way for "single-payer" insurance, or "national health insurance like Canada". That last phrase *ought* to have been a huge Red Flag, because Canada has no "national" system -- it varies vastly from province to province. The only thing "universal" about it is that it's universally terrible.
Two vignettes, in comparison.
Yesterday, my informal fiancée in Québec (where I lived for 15 years) was whooping with delight because after 5 *years* she was finally allowed by the mandatory lottery to have access to random basic doctors in a "clinic". These are the only way you can be referred to any sort of specialist, and she has an auto-immune disease which also attacks her eyes. Two years ago, after 24 hr in the ER a hospital doc called in a specialist colleague who (at some risk) gave her a renewable prescription which has held the disease in check. Otherwise, she would now be blind and unable to stand or walk.
Compare with my kid sister, who in March decided that the osteoarthritis in one hip was becoming a serious hindrance to normal life. She contacted an orthopædic practice -- no referral needed -- who ran key tests, then sent the results to an independent practice for a second evaluation. They agreed on the diagnosis and recommended a surgeon specialising in women's hips. He ordered the usual array of pre-surgical tests, and when they came back fine booked her for surgery 10 days later.
Using the newest ceramic technology and minimally invasive techniques -- well, for hip-replacement, at least -- it was an outpatient procedure at a regional surgery centre ... and she was home in time for supper. Total out-of-pocket ? One hundred bucks flat administrative fee for the surgery centre ad 20 percent co-pay for the post-op meds.
Standard wait for a hip-job in Québec ? Almost 7 years, and they offer government "assisted" suicide as an option if the wait is too arduous.
And there's this:
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom slammed congressional proposals that would, among other things, cut Medicaid funding to states that provide taxpayer-financed non-emergency health care to illegal immigrants."
California is apparently at risk of losing $40B in federal Medicare dollars because of i) the illegal alien provision, ii) the able-bodied work requirement, and iii) the elimination of a scheme that lets CA overcharge the feds.
Gee, Gavin, I can't imagine what you could do to address this…
Ah the Obama mist of fear mongering--sprayed through an atomizer bottle like Chanel #5--but it smells more of a Democrat reservation cattle feed lot. If you have driven by Harris Ranch on I-5 in California you'll recognize the smell.
This is where Barrack learns what happens when you fight Trump on a 70/30 issue.
Democrats used to get away with it because they had media control. But now with X even good little Barry is about to learn what the country actually thinks about him.
Warped or warping is a sailing term. It is interchangeable with the terms kedge, kedged or kedging. This is for when there is no wind or or the wind is blowing from the wrong direction. The ancho is taken out to a point away from where you are, dropped, set (jauled) and then hauled in by the of the capstan and incrementally moving your vessel to a place where it can take advantage of the wind.
As Presidents go, there is Trump and then there are the rest. He is like no other for better or worse. Most seem to make sense in a linear transition of pendulum swings big and small, but the builder sees a wrecking ball as necessary before rebuilding. Closest would be FDR.
FBHOb
Using either “trapped in the past”, or “have a warped perspective” would have saved a lot of these comments ;).
Re Obama, I’m more interested in his WH interactions over the past four plus years…. Will anyone dare ask him?
Interesting word, and good info from Aztec the Heartless. A very cumbersome and desperate way to move -- lots of effort and very little result. Add it to the list of nautical terms now used in common non-maritime ways, with shifted meanings over time. Grok summary says "Trump’s usage seems more aligned with the modern, figurative sense of being stuck or distorted rather than a direct nautical reference."
Obama was always a lightweight; always was lazy. Now is nearly irrelevant. Does his mojo still work on some people?
Return of the omnibus spending bill. Except it never went away.
When do we get the big beautiful bill that abolishes the departments of education, commerce, energy and homeland security? And eliminates CFPB? And curbs the rule-making powers of EPA, FTC, SEC, FCC and ATF? And downsizes DoJ, FBI, CIA, NSA and the remaining alphabet agencies?
Who was responding to whom? Aside from the X/Twitter format, it was like Trump and Obama talking past each other.
Medicaid is where significant fraud takes place. It should only be made available to those UNABLE to work… e.g., the disabled. These Democrats have ALWAYS been all about growing the size and scope of government.
Any politician, whatever the political party, who is not on board with the need for serious reform lacks a sober understanding of the situation.
The Democrats have no grit, but you know who does have True Grit? I'll tell ya, Pilgrim, it's Donald Trump!
Free money to have more welfare babies. Great idea, Donny!
So the previous weekend at bernie’s president is running again?
Does his mojo still work on some people?
Mojo is relative.,.
D.D. Driver said...
Free money to have more welfare babies. Great idea, Donny!
These people never complain when the Uniparty passes a budget that is far worse.
They only start piping up about fiscal responsibility when the status quo is under threat.
DD Driver doesn't believe a single thing he says.
Obama running his mouth about health care coverage?
Fuck right off.
These people never complain when the Uniparty passes a budget that is far worse.
The fuck I don't!! Lol!!!
Which President gave $1000 to welfare babies? It was NOT Obama. It is Trump. I though we hate Marxists are these parts? The Marxists are coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!
Yes, "these people" complain when the donkeys do commie shit. "These people" just **also** complain when Trump does commie shit.
I've taken to saying, in response to folks' complaints about the latest Trump / Musk outrage, "What is happening right now is the BEST CASE SCENARIO. I've expected this stuff for 20 years, at least. Cogitate on that, then we can talk."
100% tax on Grift. Obama gonna be hurting. Along with Biden, W. and Clinton
oh noes anyways, the plan to flood the country with unskilled labor was Jeffrey Sachs, in a book he wrote in 2008
https://substack.com/@newsfromuncibal/p-163876313
Pretty funny comment coming from Obama— the person whose signature achievement took the health care they wanted away from tens of millions of people.
Best guess is that Trump forget to double the ‘p’ when he wrote the past tense of “wrap” and Autocorrect chose the wrong correction. Occam’s razor and all that.
They should up your anti-depressant and serve you only decaf at McLean Hospital, DeeDee. Sheesh.
"That tax on Social Security, of course, signed into law by Ronald Reagan."
Half of it became taxable for people with significant other income. Clinton raised it to 85% in '93. It's annoying, but I think it's also a good idea, so retired people have an incentive to keep middle-income tax rates low, since they tend to vote more than young people. They got rid of the old income caps that made you lose benefits if you earned much in your late 60s--those were ridiculous.
After careful consideration, test sucks the root bag.
Substitute test above for Obama. It would not let me post Obama.
Try posting Obama sucks the root bag yourself.
My experiment is contradictory. So I do t know if I was censored.
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