I know Casey Means from this great episode of Joe Rogan (from last October):
Excerpt: "One in 36 children has autism. Now in the United States. That was one in one 50 in the year 2000. And in California where I live, it's one in 22, 1 in 22 with a lifetime neurodevelopmental disorder. We've got infertility going up 1% for year. 25% of men now under 40 have erectile dysfunction.... I kind of just looked around.... Why is this happening? Why are these all going up all at once? And that led me on what is now a seven, eight year journey, ultimately leaving the surgical world, putting down my scalpel forever. Because what I realized is that when you go to the science with a root cause perspective, you go back to PubMed with a slightly different perspective. Not how do I treat these diseases once they emerge, but why are they happening? You see a very obvious blaring answer... which is that it's all caused by metabolic dysfunction — a term that I never learned in medical school. I learned about metabolic syndrome and the different individual diseases that make it up. But there is a problem, there is a fundamental breaking of our core cellular biology that is caused by our diet and the world we're living in, the modern world we're living in today that is crushing the very way that the human body and our human cells can transmit food, energy to life, energy to cellular energy. And so our bodies are essentially, I mean fundamentally because metabolic health is how we make energy in the body, the way that our environment is now a synergistic use during our metabolic health. And the science is very clear about this. It's basically like all of us are a little bit dead while we're alive. That's what metabolic dysfunction is...."
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"there is a fundamental breaking of our core cellular biology that is caused by our diet and the world we're living in, the modern world"
Maybe. Prove it. Don't assume it's true and go cherry picking for evidence. That's not proof.
I would be surprised if a majority of people supportive of "MAHA" won't be perfectly happy with Means not talking too much about vaccines.
Take this quote from Bobby
RFK JR: "ADD, ADHD… Tourette syndrome, Narcolepsy, Autism.. All of these are injuries that I never heard of when I was a kid."
Asserting... assuming, all of those things are injuries. (Grok says "injuries" isn't a standard medical, industry, or legal term for the conditions listed).
Anything he says after that point is useless. He is an advocate for a per-established point of view. He is unreliable in that context.
Save it for the courtroom Bobby.
I can understand the maha people on food dyes. They're wrong about vaccines, but at least I understand why they think what they think. But, where did this stuff about seed oils come from?
As far as I can tell, there is no scientific study that indicates seed oils are a particular problem. A lot of oil from any source is not good for you, but everything seems to indicate that trans-fats are more dangerous.
I know people who won't eat canola oil. Is it because it has "can" in the name? That's just because calling it rapeseed oil is bad marketing.
The seed oil stuff seems crazy.
“Maybe. Prove it. Don't assume it's true and go cherry picking for evidence. That's not proof.”
Where was that attitude with the Covid vaccine/lockdown hysteria?
The problem is the medical experts, including physicians, delegitimized themselves. They destroyed their credibility. They did that to themselves. Now we’re living in the wilderness.
Vaccines, as a risk management choice, yes. Inoculations, shots, no. Inflammatory chemicals, toxic adjuvants, in moderation?
Many metabolic conditions are either progressive with observation or have become so with diet, behavior, and medication by choice or force.
Some vaccines are and should be mandatory, but who decides? I don't know any doctor who recommends rabies vaccines for humans, even though rabies is 100% fatal. My father had 2 brothers that died of measles, people were horribly crippled with polio, and yet people argue against them. There are a lot of vaccines that children don't need but drug companies want to get some return for their money, hep B and xovid spring to mind. Doctors are paid a lot of money to push these shots on parents.
the odds that the washington post would have a clue, or desiring of finding one, see what they did to Robert Malone,
I think a good job for Kamala Harris would be head of the Department of Venn Diagrams. The intersection of Times readers who don't trust vaccines may actually be larger than the intersection of MAGA believers and anti-Vaxxers. Or at least that would have been true before COVID and RFK Jr's appointment.
"That's not proof."
Hi, Scott! Welcome to the Althouse comments thread. I see that finally, after all these years, she published something that caught your attention. Or possibly your owners' attention.
https://www.malone.news/p/who-is-casey-means-md
many formerly prestigious publication, seem to act like political officers, and some social media accounts do the same
"As far as I can tell, there is no scientific study that indicates seed oils are a particular problem."
Well, then keep on chugging corn oil. Linoleic acid has gone from being about 1% of the average American caloric intake to more like 40%. Hard to see how that could possibly make any difference.
"Some vaccines are and should be mandatory, but who decides?".
No vaccines are mandatory, and none should be. Other, than that, you're right; The question of who decides whether you get needles shoved into your body so as to inject toxins is an interesting one. There's a new Pope, maybe he should decide?
Here, try this one while we're at it. Modern American medicine is very effective. At exploiting our fears to obtain our money.
It’s healthy and actually critical to ask questions about all this stuff. If we shame people that ask questions or advocate for more reliable data, we’re not doing the good work for our progeny.
The whole vaccine discussion is a case of Bad Science meeting Bad Rhetoric. Go back to the root cause of the problem: Drug companies being exempted from lawsuits or even prosecution, for products that they're injecting into the bodies of humans, almost always with inadequate trials ahead of time. When you consider their business model, their capital outlays, and their unquenchable profit motive, if that isn't a recipe for disaster, I don't know what is. Clean up the front end, that's easy - it's just lobby money you're dealing with. Once that mess is removed, normal medical ethics will at least have favorable soil in which to germinate.
I notice that the discussions about this are usually careful to scream out that people are being anti-vaxxers, without bothering to distinguish 'why'. How many are 'anti' because of the process, but not the principle?
so, i'll bite;
WHO is this "Mike Adams", and WHY do y'all think i've give a sh*t what that asshole says/thinks ??
You’ll pry my Ivermectin from my brainworm’s cold, dead hands!
to say natural news is far right, well thats more Post anthropology,
Teach your kids how to identify the neurodiversity, start early in the kindergarten, if someone keeps kicking your kid in a shin, stay away from that neurodiverse family at all cost, teach your kid to recognize narcissistic behaviors and stay away from these individuals, do not feel sorry for them, do not marry them, do not have kids with them. Neurodiversity is not "another way of being." It's a mentally ill way of being. These people are miserable to be around, they struggle in relationships because of their multitude of deficits, if they are good with computers, who cares, they can sit in a basement and live their psychopathic, porn-addicted lives without contaminating the gene pool.
“ And so our bodies are essentially, I mean fundamentally because metabolic health is how we make energy in the body, the way that our environment is now a synergistic use during our metabolic health. And the science is very clear about this.”
If the science is so clear, why is her description of it so incoherent?
A lot of AA commenters grew up eating over sweet dyed candy, drinking natural sugared soft drinks, breathing lead laden gasoline smog, and (rumored )chewing lead in the house paint, asbestos everywhere, playing with "quicksilver , andeating Fruit Cocktail.
Yet somehow managed to survive., although a few leftys seem to have been affected.
Evidence that autism rates increase with introduction of more vaccines and broader diagnostic criteria
It turns out there are inflection points and they point to real-time significant events that are inextricably-linked to the increasing autism rates
Jessica Rose
Ah- the seed oil stuff, as Steven refers to it. Are seed oils worse for you then animal fats? Answer- there are no actual large scale studies either way.
HOWEVER, I'm leaning towards seed oils are worse for you. And it's extremely difficult to completely cut them from your diet. Why am I leaning that way? Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker, doing a study of one. Now a study of one is anecdotal. A verified study or one is a data point. He monitors his health with his Garmin watch. Smart watches can track a lot of things. He's a little more obsessed with health tracking then I am. But one thing he has noted that drinking even one glass of alcohol changes his readings for that night. As an occasional drinker- usually of a good dry red wine, supposedly good, or at least better for you then grain alcohol - I have checked and verified those same changes happen to me. They are not, BTW, changed for the better. Well Karl has done the same thing with seed oils- cutting them completely out of his diet. (Far more willpower and determination then I have right now.) And for verification- cut them back into his diet. With immediate changes for the worse as measured by his cruelly neutral Garmin watch. (Just had to throw that "cruelly neutral in somewhere...) So existing scientific measurement done on a study of one indicates- seed oils are bad for you. That's not anecdotal. That isn't how he feels. That's documented readings- mostly based on HRV values, which I don't fully understand. But with determination, exercise, and diet can be changed for the better. Mine has- through the exercise part.
There is one healthy thing I would like to get- that by law, isn't available. Iron free bread. Wait- fortified bread is good for you! The government says so! Alas, it is not. Not all the time, that is. Why was enriched flour introduced? To prevent childhood anemia. And- it did an absolutely great job of that. That's a fact that cannot be disputed, at all, by anyone. 40 years later diabetes, liver diseases, including liver cancer, and other diseases started exploding, for inexplicable reasons. Or are they inexplicable? High iron is associated with all of them. Look up hemochromatosis and all the things it's associated with. Now I don't have hemochromatosis, but when I took an iron panel test- after giving whole blood every 8 weeks for years, the day after one such donation, my scores were high everywhere it was bad to be high, low where it was bad to be low, and just below or above the level where hemochromatosis would be a diagnosis. Iron supplements are bad for me, and bad for most adult males and post menopausal women. But we can't get unfortified bread. One extra anecdotal point- my middlest son at his last medical visit was told by his practitioner- donate blood, every chance you get. Because of his blood iron level.
Nutrition is not a one size fits all science. Not a science at all- more akin to an art. Population studies don't apply to individuals. But- most of the time, what's good for most is what's good for you. Scallops are good for you- unless you're deadly allergic to shellfish. They're good for me.
"One divide in the MAHA movement is between those who are focused on the nation’s food system — concerned about petroleum-based food dyes, highly processed foods and seed oils, and those who believe the nation’s health problems stem from the use of vaccines.
Embrace the power of AND.
The negative view of seed oils is fairly widespread. The main problem is the linoleic acid, which is an Omega-6, which is typically too high in our diets compared to Omega-3, and is inflammatory. Here's a piece from the Cleveland Clinic that gives a balanced view. As the article points out, if you eat out a lot, or eat a lot of processed foods, you will already be consuming a lot of cheap seed oils, so best to cook with extra virgin olive or avocado oil to help the balance. That's what I do.
"A lot of AA commenters grew up eating over sweet dyed candy, drinking natural sugared soft drinks, breathing lead laden gasoline smog, and (rumored )chewing lead in the house paint, asbestos everywhere, playing with "quicksilver , and eating Fruit Cocktail."
I sure did. My dentist gave me mercury in a paper cup to take home and play with. I remember what fun it was pouring it out onto the floor where it would shatter into little silver bouncing balls that I'd scoot together into a new and perfect blob and coax back into the cup.
That's "blob" not "blog." This is not a "new and perfect blog." This is an old and imperfect blog.
Perhaps "... in order to form a more perfect blog.
"If the science is so clear, why is her description of it so incoherent?".
Probably because she believes the people she is addressing may not be altogether clear on the science around mitochondria. Which are, in fact, "how we make energy in the body", in the form of adenosine triphosphate. Although I would argue that the real value of ATP is not its high energy but its low entropy.
Prove it. Don't assume it's true and go cherry picking for evidence. That's not proof.
Whoa, Scott Patton, you have some nerve, demanding that scientists actually do science? Possibly you are aware that any and all efforts to get research funding to actually perform the research you demand was turned down by the scientific establishment, going back at least as far as the George W. Bush administration? Hopefully we shall see some real research —the kind you demand — being done as we go forward in this administration.
My friends and I played with mercury, and built and painted model airplanes with glues and paints that have since been banned. In small, closed rooms.
But we neve notig nnybla flumat.
Get OFF!
Our dentist never gave us mercury to play with as kids. We had to break a mercury thermometer to get ours. (Sorry, Mom, I dropped the thermometer and it broke! Honest!)
Life was so much better when nearly everyone was calorie-deficient, filled with internal parasites, and died before they turned 50. . . . .
"Far right" = things a left leaning person doesn't agree with. there is no center or moderate right anymore.
Autism is primarily genetic, it will tend to run within families. Vaccines don't have any role in it. And it is not a disease either; I wish people would stop referring to it as such. It's hard enough for me as a woman on the Spectrum without people making fatuous claims about what causes it.
What didn’t kill you, maimed you.
Just as socialists are more adept at making the rich poor than the poor rich, so too do Democrats focus their efforts on tearing down Trump rather than rebuilding their own party.
"Autism is primarily genetic, it will tend to run within families."
There are, indeed, genetic diseases, that tend to run in families. But I don't believe any of them have increased 10,000% over the last fifty years. Autism may not be caused by vaccines, but it's very rapid increase argues for an environmental cause.
The original claim about vaccines and autism was that it was caused by the mercury in thimerosal, which was used as a preservative in multiple vaccines. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines sold in the US, although it is still used in those sold in Africa. Concern now is centered on the various substances used as "adjuvants", many of which contain aluminum in a biologically active form.
" increased 10,000% over the last fifty years. Autism may not be caused by vaccines, but it's very rapid increase argues for an environmental cause. "
one thing's For Sure..
It's a HUGELY Bigger problem than it was just a few years ago..
BUT! some "woman on the Spectrum" says: "It's Not a Disease!"
and wants us ALL to shut up.. I'm Pretty sure the spectrum referred to is the retard spectrum?
“ My dentist gave me mercury in a paper cup to take home and play with. I remember what fun it was pouring it out onto the floor where it would shatter into little silver bouncing balls that I'd scoot together into a new and perfect blob and coax back into the cup.”
Holy shit. Glad I didn’t have your dentist.
“Mercury's toxicity has been recognized and understood for centuries, with evidence of its harmful effects dating back to antiquity. Early observations linked mercury exposure to health problems in miners and other workers. While the specific mechanisms of toxicity and the full extent of its effects weren't fully understood, the association between mercury and illness was established long before modern scientific understanding.”
"The problem is the medical experts, including physicians, delegitimized themselves. They destroyed their credibility. They did that to themselves."
Certainly can't argue against that. That's what you get when medical "experts" insist the science is settled so shut up and take the shot, I guess.
Soft drinks and seed oils, two Godzilla-scale interest groups flourishing on taxpayers' money united into city-stomping kaiju tag team opposed by a very under-armed MAHA movement.
Shit-can the Fantastic Four. This should be the real summer blockbuster.
I recall a Coca-Cola product that was essentially Coke minus the coloring agents. I tried it and found it acceptable. So what happened? Is the food-dye industry that vital to the national interest?
"Mercury's toxicity has been recognized and understood for centuries, with evidence of its harmful effects dating back to antiquity."
I don't know where Smilin' Jack found that quotation. nevertheless it is true, but it is also incomplete. Ironically, it was mercury's toxicity that convinced many people that it must be an indispensable component of the Elixir of Life. The logic goes something like this: The gods must jealously guard the secret of their never-fading youth and immortality from ailing and aging Mankind, else they gain the secret and overthrow the order of the cosmos. Therefore, the individual ingredients of ambrosia must be deadly poisons that destroy any mortal who dares to experiment with a fragmentary recipe.
The phrase "mad as a hatter" originated because hatters in England used mercury in hat-making, and were prone to madness as a result. But I wonder. I also played with drops of mercury from broken thermometers as a child, and there's certainly nothing the least bit strange about me.
From grok:
Inhaling mercury vapor [hat-making] allows it to rapidly enter the bloodstream through the lungs. Elemental mercury vapor is highly toxic, crossing the blood-brain barrier and causing severe neurological damage.
Handling liquid mercury is less immediately hazardous because elemental mercury is poorly absorbed through intact skin.
Regarding mercury, who could forget S-Town about the mad clockmaker?
With diversity of individuals, minority of one, there are undoubtedly other differences. Look harder.
Quaestor said...
I recall a Coca-Cola product that was essentially Coke minus the coloring agents. I tried it and found it acceptable. So what happened? Is the food-dye industry that vital to the national interest?
5/9/25, 6:46 PM
Crystal Pepsi from the early 90's.
Autism is not a "hugely bigger problem", it is simply being noticed more, and in some cases maybe misdiagnosed too. My grandfather had it long before people knew what it was---that he was able to serve in the navy during WWII is nothing short of a miracle, these days Autism would mean an automatic 4F. It affects girls and boys differently---boys are more likely to act out, girls are more likely to try to fit in and simply zone out.
Autism is a disorder, not a disease. I know that disease could fall under that heading, but Autism doesn't have symptoms the way a disease does.
I struggle every day with trying to better myself. I have had 28 years of Physical and Occupational Therapy to help me learn how to focus and how to properly interact with other people. I have had job coaches help me in the work field. And the best bosses I've had were parents of autistic children.
As much as I find the word "neurodivergent" to be just another pigeonholing label, I also know that there are people would like to help those who have mental and developmental disabilities--such as myself---be able to live a normal life. I don't want disorders to be "normalized", but I do want to be able to function as a full-grown independent adult. And I hope that people can learn to understand how Autism and other developmental issues work.
It's my understanding that it's not just the incidence of autism spectrum disorder that amount to what used to be called eccentricity (mild to profound) that's skyrocketed - it's also the types of severe autism that render the sufferers unable to function at all, and sometimes require them to be protected from themselves. If true, then my Lord, we owe* it to these poor folks and their desperate families to try our best to find out what's causing it so we can try to prevent it. I hope there is an environmental cause or trigger - if there is, we may be able to eliminate or mitigate it.
* Of course we don't actually "owe" anyone this research. But as a society that tries to be compassionate, shouldn't we engage in it regardless?
"From grok:"
Why not just say, "Something I encountered that has about a 50% chance of being true"?
"Autism is a disorder, not a disease."
Uh-huh. And a dog is a canid, not a mammal. And fish swim in the ocean, not in the sea. Can you even hear yourself? Apparently not.
Because "From grok:" is quicker to type.
Good for you, Mad Soprano.
Quick--name one surgeon general from the past three presidential administrations, and/or identify an important policy of any of them that has impacted national health.
While I agree that it is important and helpful to focus on health issues, I don't think the surgeon general really has a lot to do with it.
The only surgeon general I can even recall was Jocelyn Elders, who became notorious for talking too much about masturbation.
Hmmm...what's this?
"Glenn Greenwald unearths video of Bill Cassidy discussing his detailed power sharing agreement with RFKj. This strongly suggests Cassidy is the handler referred to by Shanahan."
https://x.com/i/status/1920939004297417007
From ScienceDirect.
"Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro."
You'll notice. Not a cure, but it inhibits the worse of the symptoms.
This is in response to Tea Bag Hag who was apparently forced to take it. If there is one thing we can all control it's what we put in our bodies.
TBH should appreciate this; Ivermectin is used as part of the drug cocktail to treat HIV.
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