Direct and specific credit given to Trump, who's getting called "President Trump" a little early, but okay.
Here's the NYT article on the subject: "TikTok Flickers Back to Life After Trump Says He Will Stall a Ban/Some users saw the social media app come back online on Sunday, following a shutdown when a federal law went into effect requiring a sale or ban."
The law does allow a president to grant a 90-day extension if a buyer is found, but only if there is “significant progress” toward a deal that puts TikTok in the hands of a non-Chinese company. That deal also has to be able to be completed within the 90 days for the president to trigger the extension. And it’s unclear if that extension option still exists, given that the law is already in effect.
In his post on Sunday, Mr. Trump floated the idea that he “would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture,” without providing further details. TikTok has said that a sale is impossible, citing the nature of its global operations, and China has already signaled that it would block the export of its all-important video-recommendation technology....
Well, that sounds impossible to work out, and yet, TikTok is back, and we got a chance to show how much we cared. I'd like to see Congress get its act together. And here's AOC on the topic of the weakness of the national security claim:
@aoc Let’s talk about the Tiktok Ban…. #tiktokban ♬ original sound - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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So Trumps's great thought is the United States should bail out TikTok's owners? (Jeff Yass Trump donor owns 15% of ByteDance)
Also, which service providers are gonna believe this shields them from liability?
"I’m asking companies not to let TikTok stay dark! I will issue an executive order on Monday to extend the period of time before the law’s prohibitions take effect, so that we can make a deal to protect our national security. The order will also confirm that there will be no liability for any company that helped keep TikTok from going dark before my order.
Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations.
I would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture. By doing this, we save TikTok, keep it in good hands and allow it to say up. Without U.S. approval, there is no Tik Tok. With our approval, it is worth hundreds of billions of dollars - maybe trillions.
Therefore, my initial thought is a joint venture between the current owners and/or new owners whereby the U.S. gets a 50% ownership in a joint venture set up between the U.S. and whichever purchase we so choose." ~ Donald J Trump @ TruthSocial
"TikTok is working in the app now."
The CCP has found a work-around.
That’s what China typically requires for foreign companies investing in their country. 50/50 joint venture.
Oh thank God that’s over. Phew!
So in other words the government did not shut down tik tok, tik tok shut itself down.
I hope Althouse sees the uninstalling Biden tweet at Instapundit.
They took it down, they put it back up. I wonder how much ransom we had to pay.
Added to What is Best In Life? Leftie's panties bunching up!
Good news - Joe Biden is being un-installed.
the scary part - is knowing the Chi Coms have the recipe for the cat litter box cake.
Thank goodness our hours long national nightmare is over. Reports of arson to a WI congresspersons office, due to the ban. EMS services are talking people off ledges all over america, telling them we are safe to once again waste hours of time.
Good.
So much drama over so little.
Seems like the whole Tik Tok kerfuffle has gotten the right's panties in a bunch more than the left. Trump hated it before he loved it. Now you guys don't know what to think about it.
President Lincoln is President Lincoln, and President Trump is President Trump.
He just won a lot of votes
Big day tomorrow, Freder!
Why didn't Biden do anything to save it? He's been looking for stray achievements to nail down here at the very end and that one was staring right at him. I guess he's responsible for signing the cursed law and if he tried to save us from that law, people would focus on his failure to save it when it really mattered. He might be asked to explain how he changed his mind. But does he even have a mind to change?
Exactly.
The law empowers the president to pause the ban for 90 days if TikTok shows it’s in the process of separating from ByteDance, so Trump could pause it once he takes office—which Trump said he will do in a Truth Social post Sunday, saying he hopes to “make a deal to protect our national security,” possibly by shifting TikTok to a joint venture with partial U.S. ownership. (Forbes)
Bipartisan veto proof majorities in both houses passed the tik tok law so there was little Biden could do. He probably thought his announcement to leave enforcement of the law to the new administration was saving tik tok, but the company chose to briefly shut down anyway, presumably to make a point.
The ban was a bipartisan negotiation tactic, a game of chicken that we appear to have lost, at least for the moment.
If Trump’s now only asking for 50% ownership, then the Chinese know he will settle for 49% or less. Anyway, 50% is half what the law asked for, which was 100%.
Readering said...
"Bipartisan veto proof majorities in both houses passed the tik tok law so there was little Biden could do."
The option for a 90 day extension was written into thee law. He could have done that.
And they shut down because they were legally required to. In fact, since Trump is not yet President and the ban started today, I suppose the platforms hosting the service are technically operating illegally until a Trump intervention tomorrow, are they not.
The sweet part is that Biden, by not acting, likely thought he was handing Trump a pile of dung, and Trump found a pony inside!
And here's AOC on the topic of the weakness of the national security claim:
@Althouse, seriously?!? You are pointing us towards someone whose IQ is well south of three digits to address the InfoSec concerns? How about if we take you, a Con Law professor with a distinguished CV, and send you “The Little Golden Book of the American Constitution”?
"who's getting called "President Trump" a little early, but okay."
ex-Presidents rate the honorific "President " for the rest of their lives.
The 90 day option had conditions not met that Trump will ignore because he believes he can jump start negotiations that China has insisted will not happen. We'll see what happens.
Why blame Biden? The Supreme Court upheld the law.
I don’t do TikTok. Now I know I never will. What a morass.
So Freder - tell us your precious opinion of TicTok. You got it all figured out - right?
No they don't. "Former President" is the preferred honorific. There is only one President, and that is the currently serving one.
Democrats are not to blame for anything- right Freder?
He might be asked to explain how he changed his mind.
The same could be said for Trump. "Because it helped me get elected, so now I love the Chinese" probably wouldn't go over too well.
Never used it. I think the law banning it is silly, but I've got greater concerns than a pissing contest between Trump, Biden, Congress, the Supreme Court and the Chinese.
So you're going to walk up to Barack Obama and say, "Good Morning, Mr. Former President"?
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste, or have, or something. Anyway."
How does reducing Chinese ownership to 50% keep them from stealing user info?
You mean like "Ten percent for the Big Guy?" He's gone.
"I'd been enjoying TikTok for the last hour..."
This is why I wouldn't install it on my phone on a bet. I don't care if the ChiComs know what songs I listen to on Spotify, or where I drive in my car, but I know my addictive personality.
@Freder (2:06) actually, yes they do, you ignorant pissant.
Freder & Company - I bet it's a Trump felony. I hope known Liar Adam Schitt and the folks at MSNBC can get to the bottom of it.
@Freder, you are a typical Lefty Loonie. You lack the capacity to understand the InfoSec issues so they must be "silly."
Anything that helps Trump = a felony! But if the Soros Oligarchs fund the democrat's pro-crime missions - it's all cool. Medal of honor!
Despite what Ann and Freder believe former Presidents are informally addressed as President_____, where informally means in the news, at functions lesser than state dinners. The recent trend is to deny Republican Presidents the convention. Go take a pre-Bush sample yourself…
Certainly in the setting of TikTok thanking Trump the title could/would/should be used.
Poor, dumb Fredo walks into another door.
I always enjoy the elucidations of issues by the semi-cute waitress at the blue plate diner in my nabe when she's playing with and tossing her hair. I start wondering what kinds of noises she makes when...
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Any info you have already put on-line anywhere is no doubt on a Chinese government harddrive as I write this.
And the most likely place they got it from is the NSA.
You lack the capacity to understand the InfoSec issues so they must be "silly."
If we were really concerned about InfoSec, we would be banning apps every day.
Take it up with Althouse.
Is TicTok as good as YouTube Georgia and Arkansas police chases?
@Freder (2:06) actually, yes they do, you ignorant pissant.
I don't make the rules, Emily Post does
Anyone buying Melania’s new crypto?
I don't know anything about cat videos, and I have no interest in learning about cat videos, but then again, I have a cat.
So, it was all . . . just a dream.
I think we should keep Tiktok in the USA, but only allow Makeup Tutorials.
Now, let’s look a little closer. In an informal setting (such as a private lunch), it’s acceptable to use the title the ex-official held. Here, you could refer to former President Jimmy Carter as either “President Carter” or “Mr. Carter.” In reality, many people ignore this convention and refer to former Presidents as "President Last Name" when they are in settings where nearly everyone would afford them the honor of the title
Sincere Thanks Freder. Ms. Post confirms what many of us have known forever…
In the woke of the Sino-Fauci pandemic, are the preparing for a Sino-Spring?
but I've got greater concerns than a pissing contest between Trump, Biden, Congress, the Supreme Court and the Chinese.
If you have greater concerns, why are you running your mouth non-stop on this thread?
Exactly and Freder is still bunching. Swing and a miss..
In re the Presidential title debate, Freder has a point, however, the correct title for DJT is currently "President-elect Trump."
And that's the one that really matters.
Isn't it, Freder.
I'm some ways, Biden did do something. He announced he was punting the decision to Trump. As it is 19 January, Biden is still President and the ban went into effect today. That TikTok is operational is by Presidential decree, which is Biden. If it was shutdown all day today, and started back up at noon tomorrow, then it would be Trump. That's not to say Trump isn't doing anything, because he may have negotiated a potential sell that the Biden Administration is acting upon.
did biden say jump? or not
MAGAman, MAGAman, MAGAman.
A potentially toxic simulation for the men who mock the feminine gender. TikTok.
Wow…AOC talking sense and looking good doing it. Is there anything Trump can’t do?
"Once and future President," for a few more hours.
“Good news - Joe Biden is being un-installed.
Ubba-dee-ubba-dee-ubba-dee… that’s all, folks!
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